The All 90s Dodgers

by Andrew on Dec 15, 2006 8:10 AM PST in News

C Mike Piazza 97 (.362/.431/.638)
1B Eddie Murray 90 (.330/.414/.520)
2B Eric Young 98 (.285/.355/.396)
3B Todd Zeile 97 (.268/.365/.469)
SS Mark Grudzielanek 99 (.326/.376/.436)
LF Gary Sheffield 99 (.301/.407/.522)
CF Brett Butler 92 (.309/.413/.391)
RF Raul Mondesi 97 (.310/.360/.454)

SP Kevin Brown 99 (252.3 IP, 3.00 ERA, 221 K, 59 BB)
SP Hideo Nomo 95 (191.3 IP, 2.54 ERA, 236 K, 78 BB)
SP Ismael Valdez 97 (196.7 IP, 2.65 ERA, 140 K, 47 BB)
SP Ramon Martinez 90 (234 IP, 2.92 ERA, 223 K, 67 BB)
SP Tim Belcher 91 (209.3 IP, 2.62 ERA, 156 K, 75 BB)

BN Dave Hansen 93 (.362/.465/.505)
BN Mitch Webster 94(.274/.344/.464)
BN Tripp Cromer 97 (.291/.333/.465)
BN Billy Ashley 96 (.200/.331/.482)
BN Todd Hollandsworth 99 (.284/.345/.448)
BN Trenidad Hubbard 98 (.298/.358/.452)

RP Todd Worrell 95 (62.3 IP, 2.02 ERA, 61 K, 19 BB)
RP Jay Howell 90 (66 IP, 2.18 ERA, 59 K, 20 BB)
RP Jim Gott 93 (77.7 ip, 2.32 ERA, 67 K, 17 BB)
RP Mark Guthrie 96 (73 IP, 2.22 ERA, 56 K, 22 BB)
RP Scott Radinsky 96 (52.3 IP, 2.41 ERA, 58 K, 17 BB)
RP Darren Dreifort 97 (63.0 IP, 2.86 ERA, 63 K, 34 BB)

No player was selected more than once. All bench players had to be used primarily as a reserve all season.

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Billy Ashley: Isolated power God.

Scott Radinsky: hardest throwing LOOGY in history?

This post reminded me of the Piazza trade. Granted, trading a still in his prime greatest offensive catcher of all time is usually not a good idea.

But Sheff hit the snot out of the ball when he was in LA, and Zeile gave us one good year too.

I'm sure it's been analyzed before, but how many wins did the trade cost the Dodgers ('98-01) before they dealt Sheff (perhaps a blunder in its own right)?

by Alfredo Griffin on Dec 15, 2006 6:36 PM PST reply actions

The Cost

If the trade were just Piazza for Sheffield, it would have been slightly titlted towards the Dodgers, so they basically lost what Zeile would have produced. I wrote up a much longer analysis here:

by Andrew on Dec 15, 2006 10:22 PM PST up reply actions

Whoops

Analysis of the trade

by Andrew on Dec 15, 2006 10:22 PM PST up reply actions

Piazza trade

I read your analysis on the other site. I had actually been confused, and for some reason thought Zeile ARRIVED in the Piazza trade.

But, anyway, giving away a few years of Todd Zeile doesn't seem like a total disaster.

And, at the time of the trade, who could have known that Bonilla would be totally worthless and Johnson only slightly less so? Johnson went off to have one or two good years after he left the Dodgers.

So I guess my general impression remains it was a reasonable move at the time and a slight loss in the event. Not the franchise crusher it is sometimes made out to be.

BTW, how close were you to putting Strawberry 1991 as the RF?

by Alfredo Griffin on Dec 16, 2006 6:32 AM PST reply actions

Here is the all 2000s

I think the hitting is be better and the bullpen would be better, but the starters would be much worse. By the way, how sick was the 2003 bullpen?

C Todd Hundley 2000 (.284/.375/.579)
1B Nomar Garciaparra (.303/.367/.505)
2B Jeff Kent 2005 (289/.377/.512)
3B Adrian Beltre 2004 (.334/.388/.629)
SS Rafael Furcal 2006 (.300/.369/.445)
LF Gary Sheffield 2000 (.325/.438/.643)
CF Milton Bradley 2005 (290/.350/.484)
RF Shawn Green 2001 (297/.372/.598)

SP Kevin Brown 2000 (230.0 IP 2.58 ERA 216 K 47BB)
SP Hideo Nomo 2003 (218.3 IP 3.09 ERA 177 K 98 BB)
SP Chan Ho Park 2000(226.0 IP 3.27 ERA 217K 124BB)
SP Odalis Perez 2002 (222.3 3.00 ERA 155 K 38 BB)
SP Wilson Alverez 2003 (95.0 IP 2.37 ERA 82 K 23 BB)

RP Eric Gagne 2003 (82.3 IP 1.20 ERA 137K 20BB)
RP Paul Quantrill 2003 (77.3 IP 1.75 ERA 44 K 15 BB)
Guillermo Mota 2003 (105.0 IP 1.97 ERA 99 K 26 BB)
Takashi Saito 2006 (78.3 IP 2.07 ERA 107 K 23 BB)
Jonathan Broxton 2006 ( 76.3 IP 2.59 ERA 97 K 33 BB)
Giovanni Carrerra 2004 (53.7 IP 2.18 ERA 48 K 20 BB)

Paul Lo Duca 2001 (320/.374/.543)
JD Drew 2006 (.283/.393/.498)
Olemedo Saenz 2006 (.296/.363/.564)
Dave Hensen 2000 (.289/.415/.570)
Alex Cora 2002 (291/.371/.434) Talk about a fluke
Jose Hernandez 2004 (.289/.370/.540)

Not bad considering there were 4 less years. Major upgrades at 2B,3B,LF,RF and the bullpen.

by benaiah on Dec 16, 2006 2:49 PM PST reply actions

Listen:

I know what you stat geeks are like, but c'mon. Hundley? If he'd gotten a million walks in 2000, I'd still want him, and his children, dead. You can't run around putting him on this sort of list. If this weren't as heinous as it is, I'd think about taking issue with Gio, too, but the Hundley thing. . . C'mon!

by Andrew Shimmin on Dec 17, 2006 5:31 PM PST up reply actions

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Italics denote estimates
Pos	No	Player	2012 Salary
C	17	Ellis	$500,000	team control
1B	7	Loney	$6,375,000
2B	14	Ellis	$2,500,000
3B	5	Uribe	$8,000,000
SS	9	Gordon	$485,000	team control
LF	21	Rivera	$4,000,000
CF	27	Kemp	$10,000,000
RF	16	Ethier	$10,950,000

IF/OF	6	Hairston	$2,250,000
OF	10	Gwynn	$850,000
2B/3B	3	Kennedy	$800,000
C	18	Treanor	$850,000
IF	12	Sellers	$485,000	team control

SP	22	Kershaw	$6,000,000
SP	58	Billingsley	$9,000,000
SP	29	Lilly	$12,000,000
SP	35	Capuano	$3,000,000
SP	44	Harang	$3,000,000

CL	54	Guerra	$485,000	team control
RHP	74	Jansen	$500,000	team control
RHP	55	Guerrier	$4,750,000
RHP	60	Coffey	$1,000,000
RHP	66	MacDougal	$650,000
LHP	57	Elbert	$485,000	team control
RHP	36	Hawksworth	$500,000	team control

TJ	41	De La Rosa	$485,000	team control

		Manny	$8,087,432	deferred
		Andruw	$3,375,000	deferred
		Pierre	$3,050,000	deferred
		Furcal	$3,000,000	deferred
		Kuroda	$2,000,000	deferred
		Garland	$1,500,000	option buyout
		Blake	$1,250,000	option buyout

Totals			$112,162,432
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Players on 40-man roster used as roster fillers until moves are made. Current 40-man roster count: 40 (not including Belisario)

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No	Player	Age*
63	Jose Ascanio rhp	27
61	Alberto Castillo lhp	36
56	Matt Chico lhp	29
33	John Grabow lhp	33
59	Angel Guzman rhp	30
47	Wil Ledezma lhp	31
72	Shane Lindsay rhp	27
62	Fernando Nieve rhp	29
73	Scott Rice lhp	30
70	Will Savage rhp	27
71	Ryan Tucker rhp	25
28	Jamey Wright rhp	37

30	Josh Bard c	34
82	Griff Erickson c	24
81	Matt Wallachc	26
67	Jeff Baisley 3b/1b	29
65	Luis Cruz ss/2b	28
37	Josh Fields 3b	29
64	Lance Zawadzki if	27
56	Cory Sullivan of	32

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