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Prospect Number 11

BHSPORTSGUY provided this great link to keep track of what is happening in the winter leagues.

Xavier Paul is prospect number 10, holding off Nathan Eovaldi by a 2 -1  margin.

Here was the vote for number one
Here was the vote for 2 - 4.
Here was the vote for number 5
Here was the vote for numbers 7 & 8
Here was thevote for Number 9

Top Ten
1.James McDonald
2. Ivan DeJesus
3. Andrew Lambo
4. Scott Elbert
5. Ethan Martin
6. Josh Lindblom
7. Austin Gallagher
8. Josh Bell
9.Chris Withrow
10.Xavier Paul

Most of you may have thought you were voting for number eleven last time but Canuck noticed I'd skipped number 7 and went right to eight. Many don't consider Mr. Paul to be much of a prospect but here he is in our top 10. Right now he's punishing the Mexican League pitching and sits fourth in OPS. On Sunday he went 4-for-7 with a pair of solo homers and three runs scored. Before we get excited about his winter league performance take a look at the name a head of him. That is right, old friend Carlos Oscar Robles is sporting a .950 OPS so between the pitching and the altitude I'm impressed and unimpressed with his showing.

Nathan Eovaldi - Could we have a sleeper? This 18 year old out of Alvin, Texas was an 11th round pick and has wowed the scouts with his arm. TJ surgery while in High School turned off the scouts this spring and maybe we got lucky. He didn't pitch enough innings to make any determination about his abilities but the scouts seem to love his fastball.

I'm going to add Tony Delmonico to the vote. The 6th round pick hit .340 with 20 doubles and 11 home runs in 35 games. Six of those home runs came in the final 10 games of the season. The word is that he is going to transition to catcher as he's a terrible infielder. I don't think he belongs here a head of Pedroza but I'll let you guys make that decison. He was 21 in the rookie league.

Jamie Pedroza tore up the Rookie League at age 20 to the tune of a .982 OPS while playing SS. This year he skipped Low A and went straight to High A and had a .290 average, a .342 on base percentage, 31 doubles, 11 home runs and stole 25 bases to boot. He started out at 2nd base but wasn't hitting in April. They moved him back to SS and his bat responded. BA has said he will not be able to remain at SS so 2nd base still sounds like where he will end up.

Devaris Strange-Gordon just like Delmonico played for Ogden. The 2008 3rd round pick didn't hit like Delmonico but he's a year younger and everyone was raving about his defense at SS. He may now be the fastest player in the organization stealing 18 bases in only 60 games with a 78% success rate.

Feel free to throw out some names you'd rather see at this level.

Geison Aguasviva, James Adkins,Jon Michael Redding, Victor Garate(my sleeper pick in 2009), Kenley Jansen(2nd sleeper pick in 2009), Kyle Russel, Cole St. Clair, Pedro Baez, Josh Wall, AJ Ellis, Jesus Castillo, Justin Miller...

Poll
Prospect Number Eleven
Nathan Eovaldi
32 votes
Tony Delmonico
18 votes
Jamie Pedroza
24 votes
Devaris Strange-Gordon
16 votes

90 votes | Poll has closed

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carlos?

don’t you mean Oscar? how could you ever forget that name after he hit that game tying 2 run HR off armando benitez in 2005??

by skinnypunk12 on Nov 18, 2008 10:12 PM PST reply actions  

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Yeah I saw that but does anyone care about error totals in rookie league ball?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 19, 2008 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Gordon

Plus some of that had to be rust. I don’t think he played at all last season because of academic reasons.

by ASUcruz on Nov 19, 2008 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Gordon

Didn’t he go to a community college? You’d really have to work at not obtaining a 2.0 GBA at a JC.

by Tripon on Nov 19, 2008 11:09 PM PST up reply actions  

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Welcome Tripon, glad to see you signed up.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 20, 2008 8:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Yea

Obviously not the sharpest tool in the shed.

by ASUcruz on Nov 21, 2008 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

all we

care about are his baseball smarts.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 22, 2008 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Those of you voting

I would be interested in your reasoning for your vote at this point. Why Eovaldi? Why Pedroza?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 20, 2008 8:35 AM PST reply actions  

I Shouldn't Be Surprised

This is clear tools vs. stats vote, scouts vs. sabermetrics. I voted for Eovaldi because he has a high ceiling. Logan White says if he ends up a starter he will throw 95 MPH, and if he ends up a reliever he will throw 100 MPH. That is a lot of potential either way. On the other hand he barely has a professional record to speak of. People are voting for Pedroza because they like his stats while playing the middle infield. But scouts don’t like him and I give him no chance of being a major league regular — because he just doesn’t have the tools. So here we are. Despite what some people say about there not really being a scout/stathead divide, I think the voting taking place now is exhibit A that such a divide exists.

by CanuckDodger on Nov 20, 2008 10:55 AM PST reply actions  

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Scouts didn’t think much of Uggla either, and until his age 25 season I don’t think the stat minded folk were very impressed either. I do understand that Pedroza/Euvaldi is very much a tools/stat argument and thanks for the comment. You seem to be basing Eovaldi’s ceiling on one comment by White who is supposed to say good things about the guys he’s drafted. I’d still like to see him pitch a few innings to see how he holds up. Saying a guy who just came off TJ is going to be throwing 95 as a starter just seems like hyperbole until something tangible can be seen.
The fact that these are guys being voted on after the top 10 and really the top 9 just shows how little depth we have these days. It is possible that Martin, Withrow, and Eovaldi will start to turn the tools into production and we won’t look so weak a year from now.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 20, 2008 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Eovaldi

Let’s put White’s comment aside then. I was an Eovaldi fan the moment I saw his draft video on MLB.com, on draft day, right after we picked him. I had never even heard his name before, but watching him pitch at 90-94 MPH with a clean, athletic delivery, I said to myself “Too bad we’re never going to sign him,” having picked him so late, just like we did with David Price, Joe Savery and Alex White. But this time we didn’t let the stud go to college.

by CanuckDodger on Nov 20, 2008 12:57 PM PST reply actions  

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Looking forward to seeing what these power arms do next season.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Nov 20, 2008 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

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