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Joe Sheehan Dodger Breakdown

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With the Joe Sheehan GM for the day freed from behind the firewall, I thought we could take a look at his suggestions.

So here's the plan, in order of importance:

  1. Sign Derek Lowe for four years and $62 million. He's the best fit for this team and this payroll, and there should be some value to Lowe in not having to relocate. If there's not, ply him with additional money.

  2. Trade Xavier Paul and Victor Garate to the Brewers for Rickie Weeks; then make Weeks a center fielder. It's a low bid, and honestly, I'm skeptical enough of DeJesus' power and ability to play shortstop than I might deal him if that's what it took to get Weeks.

  3. Sign Ray Durham for two years, $8 million. The extra year is designed to get this over with quickly, as the falloff from Durham to the next option is steep enough to want to avoid the question. If Durham is done, this is an easy contract to eat. Speaking of which…

  4. Release Andruw Jones. Ideally, you could get him to agree to a buyout, where he takes 60 cents on the dollar and gets to hit the market again, choosing that ahead of a season in which he bats 125 times as the Dodgers' fifth outfielder. There's no place for him on this roster. A year ago, I loved this signing; I was very, very wrong.

  5. Sign Javier Valentin. He starts 30-35 games against good right-handed pitchers and is a very good pinch-hitter the rest of the time.

  6. Re-sign Takashi Saito. Offer him a high-upside deal. It's not likely there's much guaranteed money available for him, and he's one of those "good or unavailable" guys.

  7. Offer arbitration to Ramirez. I can't fathom him taking it, and almost no team uses draft picks as well as the Dodgers do.

These things done, my 2009 Dodgers:

Weeks CF
Ethier LF
Kemp RF
Loney 1B
Martin C
Durham 2B
DeWitt 3B
Hu SS

Bench: Pierre, Valentin, Delwyn Young, Tony Abreu, Jason Repko

Rotation: Lowe, Billingsley, Kershaw, Kuroda, Kuo, Schmidt

Bullpen: Broxton, Saito, Cory Wade, McDonald, Stults, Elbert

 

1. D Lowe does not want to sign with us. Everyone in LA knows this so while I wouldn't mind signing D Lowe he is not an option and it bothers me when someone tries to build our roster and ignores the reality of the situation. Lowe will have plenty of suitors and may not get his 4 year deal but he will get a deal he likes.

2. Huge difference between trading a 4th outfielder like Paul and a minor league rule 5 pickup in Garate compared to DeJesus. Again reality is not at work. The Brewers would never deal Weeks for the 1st offer and we'd probably be foolish to deal DeJesus for Weeks. Canuck thinks Weeks will not be any better then what we have seen. I think he is wrong and that Weeks will fullfill the potential scouts saw when he was drafted and when he destroyed AAA pitching at age 22. His 2007 2nd half is not to be ignored. If this was me I'd  trade for  Weeks and let Weeks be the 2nd baseman in 2009 and then move him to CF in 2010 when the outfield would be Kemp/Weeks/Ethier. I have a week spot for Weeks and would try to figure out a way to consumate the deal without including DeJesus who I want to be my 2nd baseman in 2010.  Then again reality should also be in my realm as why would Ned be interested in a low average high OB guy. I'm sure he finds them worthless as that was what Betemit was doing when he was dumped for a middle relief pitcher. Speaking about Betemit it sounds like Kenny Williams is going to make him the starting 3rd baseman for the WhiteSox. Bet it works out better then most people expect.

3. Nothing wrong with signing Ray Durham but you better sign someone like Loretta to be his platoon mate or be sure that Abreu can step in and play when he gets hurt, which he will, and then have someone ready to play for Abreu (DeJesus) when Abreu gets hurt.

4. Andruw Jones in todays market will not accept a buyout at 60 cents on the dollar. He would not be able to make up the difference with a new contract. Would anyone give him more then 1 million? On Dec 10th he will be playing in the DWL and we can see what kind of shape his body and skills are in.

5. Good idea

6. Good idea

7. Good idea and already done. He won't accept arbitration so we will either get draft picks or sign him to a three year deal if other suitors don't step. Or maybe he will accept arbitration. Who knows, maybe the market really does suck this year and he'd make his 20 million plus while continuing to rebuild his stock for next years free agent run.

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Yeah I agree on the Lowe suggestion. I’m not sure what Sheehan was thinking as it appears it is common knowledge that Lowe wants to play for an east coast team. And with the Yanks and Sox both interested, that pretty much rules him out.

by the big grabowski on Dec 3, 2008 4:17 PM PST reply actions  

Lowe wanting to play on the East Coast and Lowe taking a pay cut to play on the East Coast are 2 entirely different things. The Red Sox don’t want him back, but the Yankees are probably suitors. What if they don’t offer 16 million a year and some team decided to give him that much money? Players always want to go back to play somewhere, just like CC wants to go play in California. But if nobody ponies up the money the Yankees offered him, will he just take a pay cut to go back to Cali with the Angels? Perhaps. But none of this is set in stone. And Lowe saying he wants to play on the East Coast really doesn’t mean anything to me, given that every baseball player tends to say one time or another they want to play somewhere, and most end up going where the money is.

Dodger Fever: Catch it every summer; head to the ER every October.

by Tango and Cash on Dec 4, 2008 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

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Maybe but if Lowe was to end up with the Dodgers I’d consider it a huge surprise and then give Sheehan credit. As it stands I don’t think the odds are good enough for it to be one of the centerpieces of roster building.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 4, 2008 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it depends on how much the Yankees want him, since they seem to be the only east coast suitor for him, although I could see the Mets jumping in on him, given their pitching staff. I would personally rather sign Oliver Perez, but he’s always been a favorite of mine. I’m a little biased.

Dodger Fever: Catch it every summer; head to the ER every October.

by Tango and Cash on Dec 4, 2008 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

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I like Oliver, probably more then I should. His early days in San Diego have been hard to forget or the occasional gem he tossed for the Pirates/Mets.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 4, 2008 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: Jones, I still think that him and Pierre can and should both be moved. If the Dodgers would be willing to eat 60% of Jones’ salary, it seems like there would be some team willing to take a flier on him.

by the big grabowski on Dec 3, 2008 4:21 PM PST reply actions  

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You think in today’s market someone would be willing to spend 8 million on Jones? If so shouldn’t we just keep him?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 3, 2008 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Unfortunately, if Jones is not cut, he is ours.

by Bluetrain on Dec 4, 2008 5:07 AM PST reply actions  

Totally agree

There is no way Lowe is going to re-sign with the Dodgers. He doesn’t want to and what’s funny is that Sheehan says the Mets should sign him too, so I guess that’s a commonality amongst all of his GM articles.

Also, Weeks had a nice second half in 08 (not as good as 07), albeit in a reduced role: .263/.378/.451.

Man, I really think we need to sign a strong starter, other than Lowe, like a Ben Sheets, if we can land him for a Schmidt-like deal, hopefully, with better results.

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by Baseball Mastermind on Dec 4, 2008 2:40 PM PST reply actions  

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2012 Dodgers Payroll

Italics denote estimates
Pos No Player 2012 Salary
C 17 Ellis $500,000 team control
1B 7 Loney $6,375,000
2B 14 Ellis $2,500,000
3B 5 Uribe $8,000,000
SS 9 Gordon $485,000 team control
LF 21 Rivera $4,000,000
CF 27 Kemp $10,000,000
RF 16 Ethier $10,950,000

IF/OF 6 Hairston $2,250,000
OF 10 Gwynn $850,000
2B/3B 3 Kennedy $800,000
C 18 Treanor $850,000
IF 12 Sellers $485,000 team control

SP 22 Kershaw $6,000,000
SP 58 Billingsley $9,000,000
SP 29 Lilly $12,000,000
SP 35 Capuano $3,000,000
SP 44
Harang $3,000,000

CL 54 Guerra $485,000 team control
RHP 74
Jansen $500,000 team control
RHP 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
RHP 60 Coffey $1,000,000
RHP 66 MacDougal $650,000
LHP 57 Elbert $485,000 team control
RHP 36
Hawksworth $500,000 team control

TJ 41 De La Rosa $485,000 team control



Manny $8,087,432 deferred


Andruw $3,375,000 deferred


Pierre $3,050,000 deferred
Furcal $3,000,000 deferred
Kuroda $2,000,000 deferred
Garland $1,500,000 option buyout
Blake $1,250,000 option buyout

Totals
$112,162,432

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Players on 40-man roster used as roster
fillers until moves are made.

Current 40-man roster count: 40
(not including Belisario)

2012 Non-Roster Invitees

No Player Age*
63 Jose Ascanio rhp
27
61 Alberto Castillo lhp
36
56 Matt Chico lhp
29
33 John Grabow lhp
33
59 Angel Guzman rhp
30
47 Wil Ledezma lhp
31
72 Shane Lindsay rhp
27
62 Fernando Nieve rhp 29
73 Scott Rice lhp 30
70 Will Savage rhp
27
71 Ryan Tucker rhp
25
28 Jamey Wright rhp
37

30 Josh Bard c 34
82 Griff Erickson c 24
81 Matt Wallachc 26
67 Jeff Baisley 3b/1b 29
65 Luis Cruz ss/2b 28
37 Josh Fields 3b 29
64 Lance Zawadzki if 27
56 Cory Sullivan of 32

*Age on June 30, 2012

NRI count: 20

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