Do As Ned Does, Not As He Says

First, Zach Wheat played in the Dead Ball Era, so this comparison isn't exactly a good one.  Second, Eric Young only played about 2 1/2 seasons with the Dodgers.  And I don't care that you prefaced it with "Some of these guys didn't play all their career blah blah blah" but "were considered important"  First, that's subjective.  I mean, was Eric Young really that important?  Second, you're simply prefacing your argument in such a way so you can include as many arbitrary players as possible to point out that Juan Pierre was better than all of them.  This ends up actually hurting your argument, since Juan Pierre is worse than all of them, with the exception of Delino DeShields.

"200 hits, 100 runs, 55 stolen bases, and is a lifetime .301 hitter"

200 hits?  He also averages about 400 outs a year.  Pierre makes more outs than anybody else.  And 200 hits isn't a big deal when you play everyday and bat leadoff.  Pierre routinely gets ~650 ABs a season, so I don't find it too surprising that he gets 200 hits a season.  If you gave Pujols as many ABs a season, he'd be getting 200 hits a season.  

"only hall of famer wheat hit for higher average (pierre has only one season under .287), and the only guy who really stood out on that entire list was Butler for his high OBP )"

These are the worst arguments because they always imply, whether intentionally or not, that player X should be in the Hall of Fame because his stats (which are always insanely cherry-picked and that's before taking into account he's ignoring historical context), are comparable to or better than player Y.  Of course, this poster is simply pointing out (wrongly) that Juan Pierre is better than every other player he mentioned.  I mean, are you seriously going to sit here and tell me that Juan Pierre is better than Brett Butler, Steve Sax, Maury Wills, and Pee Wee Reese?!  I'm not even talking about better overall players, I'm talking about better hitters.  He's not.  And it's absurd to claim as much.

If you want to be more fair to the players you're comparing, use WARP3.  That takes into account defense, offense, and historical context.  

"everyone except kemp, martin, loney, and the pitchers sans Schmidt had a lousy year last year, and pierres #'s were down accordingly...."

What??!!!!  First, you pretty much mentioned half the team as having decent seasons.  Second, Jeff Kent had a decent season last year.  Third, and most importantly, what does Nomar tanking and Gonzalez playing bad have anything to do with Pierre playing bad??!!!!  Correlation does definitely not imply causation here.  And if you're just trying to excuse Pierre for playing badly because the 'rest' of the team did, that doesn't mean anything.  He still had a mediocre season and should still not be starting over Ethier.  That's like having Babe Ruth on the bench, but not starting him over Player X because Players Y and Z played bad, too so Player X should be given another chance.  Whatever.

"Ethier is never going to much more than a 20+ HR guy, if that, and he has no speed to speak of....he can hit for average, so can Pierre....arm strength won't be as big of issue in left, and pierre isn't a bad fielder"

And this is all worth more than Pierre.  And Pierre's defense is bad.  People who analyze baseball for a living are pretty much in agreement here.

"his career numbers shows he fits the perfect mold of the prototypical leadoff hitter except possibly for today's steroid inflated images of what leadoff hitters should be with a bunch of power, ala Soriano, Sizemore, etc..."

Nice broad assertion on steroid usage, and implying that Soriano and Sizemore both take steroids.  I don't think any further comment is needed.  And nobody except Lou Piniella thinks Soriano should be a leadoff hitter.

"you guys rag on Pierre, when he really fits the mold and the system employed by many teams, but especially the Dodgers since the move west...

don't hate the player, hate the system if you must"

What?????????????  This isn't football!!!  There's no such thing as the West Coast Offense in baseball.  And furthermore, other teams have leadoff hitters who, while being able to run, can actually get on base.  Like Sizemore.  Not many teams have leadoff hitters who only walk 30 times a year.

"you won't find a harder worker, lesser complainer or better teammate than Juan Pierre..."

This doesn't mean Pierre's better than players who are naturally talented.  Like Andre Ethier.  It doesn't matter if he works hard.  He's still worse than Andre Ethier.  If baseball employed only nice guys, some of the best players wouldn't be around.

"on anothe note,this year could be the 20 year renunion title..

a good omen sign :"

Arbitrary number.  What's the difference between a 20 year reunion title than a 17?  Stop watching bad Jim Carrey movies where numbers actually mean something significant.  We don't live in Fantasy Land.

"my brother just picked out a new chocolate lab for he and his girlfriend...

the name :

"Gibson"    ;- ))))))"

Look, since your making so many bad logical arguments here.  I'm going to make one of my own.  I'm going to assume your brother is like you and then I'm going to assume that he dresses up his dog in those dumb little dog sweaters that people make their dogs wear.  I assume you would do this if you have a dog, and I think I can make this assumption not founded in any rational basis because I'm simply following the logic you used in your entire argument.

"peace to all, and thank to all"

Don't end this by thanking all of us after you pretty much just ripped on all of us because we don't want Pierre to start (and I think you were also implying that we're stupid because of it).  I don't really need your insincere gratitude after reading your dumb rant about how Juan Pierre is the greatest leadoff hitter of all time.