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Fausto Carmona continues the trend of good young players locked up long term. His deal guarantees him 15 million dollars up to his second year of arbitration, with options taking the deal to 42.75 million dollars in his second year of free agency. At this rate, the free agent pool in a couple years will consist of nothing but filler and Scott Boras clients. Still no Dodgers wrapped up long term.

Edwin Jackson throws a two hit, eight inning shutout against the Mariners today. Good for him.

The Rockies and Mark And Brian are now bitter enemies.

I never got to write my offseason review for the Diamondbacks, and it seems a bit late now. For completions sake, trading a bunch of B and C prospects for a cheap, near elite player is a very good thing, and is probably the best use of B and C prospects for any team with a budget. So is trading one of of an inconsistent reliever for two years of an equally good one and a contingency plan at second. Josh Byrnes is making life very difficult for the Dodgers. Overall grade: A.

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EJax...

I wouldn't be -too- surprised if Dodger fans end up speaking of the Jackson/Tiffany for Baez/Carter trade in a similar fashion as we do the Konerko for Shaw deal. Just about the only thing palatable about that trade was the fact that at least the Dodgers got cash considerations. Because you know, being such a small-market team, getting an extra bit of pocket change can... Oh, wait. Nevermind.

Honestly, Jackson is STILL only 24. He's younger than Fausto Carmona (to use the other pitcher named in this post), and could be considered fairly similar in terms of potential career trajectory - though certainly not pitching style. They're even similar in their horrendous bad luck on BABIP. Carmona in 2006: .341 with a 13.3 LD% (there's bad luck and then there's absurd - this is the latter). Jackson in 2007: .351 with a 19.4 LD% (LD rate was just above league average, but BABIP was way beyond that).

I don't expect Jackson to be a Cy Young candidate necessarily, but would it be really that odd to see him end up as a better-than-average starter? Even when he struggled, I don't think anybody doubted that he had the tools to succeed. I might add, it'll go down as an awful, awful trade if he simply approaches competency, given his low cost coupled with how awe-inspiringly bad Carter was. Not that Baez and his 7 blown saves in 16 chances were all that stellar either. Baez was more unsurprisingly mediocre. But Carter was astonishing in his ineptness. His peripherals are amusing, in retrospect (and *only* in retrospect). 6.2 BB/9, 2.1 WHIP, 3.9 K/9 - the best part about that K/9? It was actually an IMPROVEMENT over the 3.5 he put up in '05. Sheesh.

Now, amusingly, Baez was traded for Betemit, who of course later would yield Scott Proctor. So... a middle reliever (moonlighting as a closer) gets traded for a power-hitting 3B in his mid-20s... Who is shortly thereafter traded for another middle reliever.

Honestly, I'd rather still have Jackson. Maybe that's just me, though.

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by Underbruin on Apr 11, 2008 4:35 AM PDT reply actions  

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I think most of us didn't like the deal at the time but if E Jackson had not been traded what are the odds he would be a Dodger now given his struggles since the deal? Tampa Bay could afford to wait on him to develop and continue to throw him out there every 5th day.

I doubt the Dodgers would have shown the same patience. Instead of being traded for Baez and Carter he probably would have simply been dealt for some other dredge. I can't think of any scenario where Edwin Jackson is pitching in the Dodger rotation in 2008 given his struggles since the trade. Ned has no patience with kids who struggle, only veterans who struggle.

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 11, 2008 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmm...

"I can't think of any scenario where Edwin Jackson is pitching in the Dodger rotation in 2008 given his struggles since the trade. Ned has no patience with kids who struggle, only veterans who struggle."

This does not mean the trade was good, only that it was expedient. Not that I disagree with your assessment.

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by Underbruin on Apr 11, 2008 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

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Pos No Player 2012 Salary
C 17 Ellis $500,000 team control
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SS 9 Gordon $485,000 team control
LF 21 Rivera $4,000,000
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IF 12 Sellers $485,000 team control

SP 22 Kershaw $6,000,000
SP 58 Billingsley $9,000,000
SP 29 Lilly $12,000,000
SP 37 Capuano $3,000,000
SP 44
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CL 54 Guerra $485,000 team control
RHP 74
Jansen $500,000 team control
RHP 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
RHP Coffey $1,000,000
RHP 66 MacDougal $650,000
LHP 57 Elbert $485,000 team control
RHP 36
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Pierre $3,050,000 deferred
Furcal $3,000,000 deferred
Kuroda $2,000,000 deferred
Garland $1,500,000 option buyout
Blake $1,250,000 option buyout

Totals
$112,162,432

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63 Jose Ascanio rhp
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60 Matt Chico lhp
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47 Wil Ledezma lhp
31
72 Shane Lindsay rhp
27
62 Fernando Nieve rhp 29
73 Scott Rice lhp 30
70 Will Savage rhp
27
71 Ryan Tucker rhp
25

30 Josh Bard c 34
82 Griff Erickson c 24
81 Matt Wallachc 26
67 Jeff Baisley 3b/1b 29
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