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Game Thread 12: Pittsburgh Pirates

Pittsburgh Pirates at Los Angeles Dodgers, Apr 14, 2008 7:10 PM PDT


At the very least this series should remind us that while things look bad in the short term for us, the Pirates have no hope of competing for years to come.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like how when they talked about how everyone not named Furcal, Ethier, or Loney is struggling, they zoomed directly in on Jones.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 7:23 PM PDT reply actions  

With Miguel Cabrera.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Holy crap, they're finally giving Doumit a chance.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 7:26 PM PDT reply actions  

I think they'll help Vinny if he ever becomes unstuck in time.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jose Bautista always seems to do well when I watch him.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 7:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Pirate baseball. Don't miss a thing.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 7:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Maybe that's why Doumit never got a chance.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 7:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Doumit pretty much dodged the pitch.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Andruw Jones not booed for something!

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 7:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Time for a Celebratory Chili Dog!

Andrew,

Are these fat jokes really worth 36.2 million dollars?

by Tango and Cash on Apr 14, 2008 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd pay that much for them to stop, honestly.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

2-1!

Andruw Jones with the RBI!

by Tango and Cash on Apr 14, 2008 7:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Juan Pierre's head for one.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Facial hair in general is okay by me.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Especially. We may lead the league in bad facial hair now.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Martin comes pretty close.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

It sort of looked like it, I only caught it out of the corner of my eye since I'm doing my taxes.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Evening

Longoria is doing ok so far. Thanks Andrew.

by JLS23 on Apr 14, 2008 7:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Didn't expect Kuroda to ever hit a ball that hard.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 8:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Dang

Kemp whacked that.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 8:03 PM PDT reply actions  

20 feet in front of the track, but it was a bullet.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Taxes done, no lessons learned about procrastination.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 8:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Sort Of Funny Story

I was talking to my coworkers about not doing my taxes yet and getting the usual "your an idiot responses". A couple minutes later, I grab a fortune cookie and get the fortune "you have recently shown poor judgement". Who the hell writes that on a fortune cookie.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

One of my Professors Said

That fortune cookies aren't reliable indicators of future events because they never give bad fortunes. Turns out that has (somewhat) changed.

by Tango and Cash on Apr 14, 2008 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Duke has some good hustle.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 8:20 PM PDT reply actions  

So does McLouth

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Assuming Kuroda can't field or hit (I'm not actually assuming that, at least about the fielding) how much does that hurt his value?

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 8:21 PM PDT reply actions  

I Have A Gut Feeling

That's it more than one might think.

by Tango and Cash on Apr 14, 2008 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking one win or so off the top of my head, have to do some work.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let the record state that I'm not drinking like a girl tonight, I'm going with a double whiskey on the rocks.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 8:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Now that was a rumbling triple.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 8:25 PM PDT reply actions  

What the hell can Bowa talk to Kuroda about?

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 8:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Who said Kuroda can't hit!

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 8:30 PM PDT reply actions  

I dont mean to be a downer

But what happens if bautista gets to that, jones is just standing there double play end of the inning.

Sigh im sorry but I don't like anything Jones bings to this team right now.

by Joe Beimel's Shot Glass on Apr 14, 2008 8:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Okay, you can't boo Andruw for that.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 8:43 PM PDT reply actions  

people should start booing

when they see andruw at the local in and out pouding a 4x4

by Joe Beimel's Shot Glass on Apr 14, 2008 8:45 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm now putting a ban on Andruw Jones is fat jokes.

Unless it's really funny of course.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

If anyone knows funny, it's me.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I Don't Trust Your Music Tastes.

So I'm Apprehensive about your comedy tastes.

by Tango and Cash on Apr 14, 2008 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Starlight Vocal Band? They suck!

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

People at work didn't appreciate my "what has nine arms and sucks" joke when they were talking about Def Leppard.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Goddammit, the answer was supposed to be Zach Duke. Man I screwed that up.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it's time to take Kuroda out. Every ball that inning was killed.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 8:47 PM PDT reply actions  

agreeed

but who to go to? Proctor? The Tron?

by JLS23 on Apr 14, 2008 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's also time to take Duke out apparently.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 8:49 PM PDT reply actions  

LoneStar!

I just made that nickname up! It's not good!

by Tango and Cash on Apr 14, 2008 8:51 PM PDT reply actions  

random question

does anybody have a link to the 4 straight home runs in 06? Espn.com disabled the video they had from the post game

by Joe Beimel's Shot Glass on Apr 14, 2008 8:54 PM PDT reply actions  

I Was Looking for That A Few Months Ago.

I found it somewhere. Let me see if I can find it again.

by Tango and Cash on Apr 14, 2008 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfV1dxn_46A

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now we know the answer to "what has two arms and sucks?".

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was the wrong place for that comment.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was supposed to be Zach Duke, dammit. Maybe i shouldn't be the arbiter of comedy.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

you're like

the Robin Williams of this board, you get the face time but you might be on crack.

k thats my big entry as a new member =) i won't ever do it again

by Joe Beimel's Shot Glass on Apr 14, 2008 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was pretty funny.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dirt Nap DeWitt?

This one only works if he gets drunk and passes out in the street a lot. Can anyone find that out?

by Tango and Cash on Apr 14, 2008 9:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Do we need Joe pretending he's Tony LaRussa against Nyjer Morgan?

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 9:07 PM PDT reply actions  

He's a genius I tells ya!

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just Wait Until He Leaves the Bar.

He'll do his Tony LaRussa impression then. Zing!

by Tango and Cash on Apr 14, 2008 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah well

as long as beimel doesn't smash the shotglass on his face he'd out drink both of them

by Joe Beimel's Shot Glass on Apr 14, 2008 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I Like How Brett Tomko Was Mad About That Incident.

And I'm thinking "Why are you mad, Brett Tomko. You're terrible at baseball. If we lose in the playoffs, it's going to be because of you. Now go sit down and eat a sandwich."

by Tango and Cash on Apr 14, 2008 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was hilarious

Needless to say we wouldn't have one a single game even with Beimel

by JLS23 on Apr 14, 2008 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

beimel

would have magically stopped a double play at home plate with his healthy hand

by Joe Beimel's Shot Glass on Apr 14, 2008 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

this is really sad

McLouth might be the pirates biggest offensive threat

thats really not good, such a classy franchise being this bad.

by Joe Beimel's Shot Glass on Apr 14, 2008 9:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Hey

Nate McLouth is my boy.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's Because He's Part Of Your Crappy Fantasy Outfield.

Why, for the love of God, did you draft him AND Brad Hawpe?

by Tango and Cash on Apr 14, 2008 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because I'm just that awesome, and McLouth is really undervalued. But mainly the awesome.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Case in point, I could have had Nate McLouth or Eric Chavez, Al Reyes, or Kaz Matsui.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

How does my

Beltran-Markakis-Hermida-Burrell-Milledge-Kearns stack up?

by JLS23 on Apr 14, 2008 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've Got

Dunn-Milledge-Kemp-J. Upton-Hart-Braun-Andruw Jones, although I start Braun at 3B.

by Tango and Cash on Apr 14, 2008 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I Like Yours.

Nobody ever drafts Burrell in any league I'm in until late, and I never understand that. He's underrated because of that crap season he had 3-4 years ago.

by Tango and Cash on Apr 14, 2008 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know

and he's been great so far this season. Philly fans just HATE him.

by JLS23 on Apr 14, 2008 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

hell hes a free agent at the end of the year

Ned will probably give him 15 mil over 3 years to be a pinch hitter

by Joe Beimel's Shot Glass on Apr 14, 2008 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, so long as you're in a decent sized league.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dammit, missed my chance to make my joke about how Grabow can impersonate Vin Scully.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 9:20 PM PDT reply actions  

That pretty much covered it actually.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

You have to also assume he can do the hully gully, and you have to pronounce his name wrong.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I Think Steiner Just Unleashed A Veiled Criticism at Drew

As he said "there are certain players will sit out if they have a headache," and he said it in such a tone that it sounded like he was referring to somebody who was or is on the team, and I just figured it was Drew.

by Tango and Cash on Apr 14, 2008 9:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Did they really have to put that in X-Mo?

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 9:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Uh oh

Nomar 3 for 3 in a AAA rehab tonight. Not only is he coming back soon, but they'll wanna *play* him ...

by YeagerMeister on Apr 14, 2008 9:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Considering my feelings about DeWitt right now, I'm kind of okay with that.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nomar's Starting

Regardless of how poorly he does on his rehab assignment. Then DeWitt can be sent down to AAA.

by Tango and Cash on Apr 14, 2008 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not liking this all of a sudden.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 9:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Curse you McLouth, why do you have to be so awesome?

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 9:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Maybe vin

will stop talking shit about the Pirates now

by Joe Beimel's Shot Glass on Apr 14, 2008 10:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Can't imagine that going any worse.

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by Andrew on Apr 14, 2008 10:10 PM PDT reply actions  

well

good night all I'm going to go take a dump on a picture of jeff kent

by Joe Beimel's Shot Glass on Apr 14, 2008 10:20 PM PDT reply actions  

that was

frustrating as hell...with fatman jones getting a triple tonight and jlo extending his streak...i was feeling some good mojo coming on..dammit

O.A.

by Ollie on Apr 14, 2008 10:26 PM PDT reply actions  

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C 17 Ellis $500,000 team control
1B 7 Loney $6,375,000
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3B 5 Uribe $8,000,000
SS 9 Gordon $485,000 team control
LF 21 Rivera $4,000,000
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SP 35 Capuano $3,000,000
SP 44
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RHP 74
Jansen $500,000 team control
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RHP 60 Coffey $1,000,000
RHP 66 MacDougal $650,000
LHP 57 Elbert $485,000 team control
RHP 36
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TJ 41 De La Rosa $485,000 team control



Manny $8,087,432 deferred


Andruw $3,375,000 deferred


Pierre $3,050,000 deferred
Furcal $3,000,000 deferred
Kuroda $2,000,000 deferred
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70 Will Savage rhp
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25
28 Jamey Wright rhp
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67 Jeff Baisley 3b/1b 29
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