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Torre?

I understand Joe Torre's frustration and I understand that he does not "know" his team yet. But riddle me this batman, why would you put a completely helter skelter lineup out there a day after the team broke out the whupping sticks. I thought his point of tweaking the roster was to find a line up that worked. Well it worked yesterday...not so much today.

I haven't really been impressed with anything Torre has done so far. I know it is early but come on. Find a line up and stick with it Joe. Baseball players are creatures of habit - they crave consistency. Give it to them and us.

I do have to admit that I liked the outfield he put out there today. I'm not sure if it was so much the players out there as much as the player that wasn't. I do want to give Torre the benefit of the doubt but I was not sold on him when he was with the Yankees and I was not excited when he came here.

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what Dodgers fans think about Torre so far. Comments?

"I was tied to a chair and he had a baseball bat. Pissing him off was the smart thing to do."

by DbacksSkins on Apr 23, 2008 8:07 AM PDT reply actions  

I think he’s a replaceable manager, just like every other manager out there. He’s already showing the trend of developing favorite players for no discernable reason and making sure others never play. The more things change and all that.

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by Andrew on Apr 23, 2008 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Let's give him time...

Have faith. They said the same thing in New York. This is same guy whom the New York Post famously called “Clueless Joe” the day after he was hired with the Yankees in ‘96. Four rings later, they stopped calling him that. But I agree, his style does take some getting used to. He’s not a self-consciously cerebral, chess-player type like LaRussa, and he’s not a drill-sergeant motivator like Leyland. He bides his time during the long season, collecting data, seeing who can do what, then he uses that knowledge to his, and our, advantage, when the season starts heating up. We’re going to be fine with him.

by BlueInTheFace on Apr 23, 2008 12:00 PM PDT reply actions  

The question is

How much had to do with him, and how much had to do with the players money bought for him? The Yankees’ (relative) lack of success the last few years suggests it wasn’t the money that bought them championships, but it doesn’t make him look good either.

I agree that he needs time. You certainly can do much worse than him as the manager. I just don’t think he was ever the godsend some made him out to be.

by SuperBruinMan on Apr 24, 2008 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Any manager willing to start Atrocious Scott Brosius on an everyday basis is overrated.

by Tango and Cash on Apr 26, 2008 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

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