Los Angeles Dodgers @ Detroit Tigers GameThread, Jun 15, 2008 10:05 AM PDT

Game Thread 6/15: Detroit Tigers

by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 9:56 AM PDT Comment 125 comments

Los Angeles Dodgers @ Detroit Tigers

LaRoche sits today because Larry Bowa hit him in the face with a ground ball when he was taking infield. Seriously. Thanks to Bowa, es Maza Time.

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Los Angeles Dodgers @ Detroit Tigers

06/15/08 10:05 AM PDT

Los Angeles Dodgers	Detroit Tigers
Juan Pierre - LF	Edgar Renteria - SS
Luis Maza - 2B	Placido Polanco - 2B
Blake DeWitt - 3B	Carlos Guillen - 3B
Russell Martin - DH	Magglio Ordonez - RF
James Loney - 1B	Miguel Cabrera - 1B
Matt Kemp - CF	Marcus Thames - DH
Andre Ethier - RF	Brandon Inge - C
Angel Berroa - SS	Ryan Raburn - LF
Danny Ardoin - C	Brent Clevlen - CF

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Yet another reason to hate Larry Bowa. He probably blamed it on LaRoche by saying if he was a veteran, he wouldn’t have been hit in the face with the ball.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 10:11 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Rook needs to learn how to use the leather.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

More adventures wtih Angel Berroa.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 10:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I really wish we would just fire Bowa. He’s a bad influence on Torre, because he’s going to sit there and agree with Torre about veteran presence, the greatness of Jeff Kent, etc.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That shouldn’t have been a reply to a Berroa comment.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I don’t see what Bowa brings to the table. He’s not even an entertaining jackass.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m very impressed that Steiner knew the female groundskeeper fact off the top of his head.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 10:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I missed it. When I turned on KABC on MLB radio, I got some car show or something. What did he say?

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Now I got it.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

So what’s the solution for Penny being out? I assume the obvious would be Kuo, but I bet Park will probably get the first shot.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 10:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Yep, I’d go Kuo or McDonald, put I’m thinking Chan Ho or Stults are what’s going to happen.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Did you see that Aqua Velva commercial with Pete Rose and Joe Morgan they posted on FJM?

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 10:52 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Not yet…

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I love how Joe Morgan is surprised that the guy that was on first is now on second.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Reds’ commercials have gone from that to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCUZlQA_zhQ

My friend in Cincy says they play these all the time on TV during the game, and at the game.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow. That’s probably the best commercial I’ve ever seen.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmgWVRdHHD4&feature=related

I think that one is the better Arroyo-Walsh-JTM commercial

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why was mustache guy weeping?

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Because the Reds weren’t playing at home. Which really doesn’t make sense because the mustache guy (Chris Walsh) travels with the team, since he’s the main play-by-play guy I think. But I’m not sure what I like better. The bags of meat or singing about a steak hoagie.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry, it’s Welsh, and he’s the color guy, not play-by-play. George Grande is play-by-play.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ah, I thought he was some sort of meat company bigwig, it makes more sense now.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Es truly Maza Time now.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 10:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

He should just go by “Maza.” Then it sounds like he could have played a bad guy in Desperado.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I guess DeWitt gets hustle points for that.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 10:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I do not believe your 3-hole hitter should be attempting to hit into DPs every AB.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I do like that the only time DeWitt has gotten out of the bottom of the lineup is when he started sucking terribly.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

So was LaRoche supposed to play 3B today? Or 1B?

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Second I think, but I don’t think anyone ever actually said.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Russ with the rarely seen eye blue today.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 10:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I don’t think I’ve seen anybody wear the eye blue before.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Loney’s sporting it too.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Grown men who bring a glove to a baseball game never deserve applause.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 11:04 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

There’s the clever curve right there.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 11:04 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

We’ll be taking a break for a while methinks.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 11:05 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

That’s what it sounds like. This might be the last of Kershaw for today.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Storm’s supposedly small, so we might come back shortly.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Did they give an expected time?

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just looking at a weather map, I’d say half an hour.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I might be able to squeeze in my grocery shopping then.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

We’re back with Chan Ho.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 12:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Why can’t Pierre hit like Polanco?

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 12:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

How valuable would Pierre be if he hit like Polanco? He’d get on base decently enough, and he’s a great basestealer.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’d actually want him on my team at least.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

More like Chan Blow Park, am I right people?

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 12:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Zing!

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I have a feeling we’re going to wish we traded for Miguel Cabrera in the very near future.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 12:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Thank God for stupid base running.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 12:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Looks like I was not as efficient with my time as I thought.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 12:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

DeWitt now sporting a .749 OPS.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 12:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Right about average.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

At least Marcus Thames is on my fantasy team.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 12:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Haha.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bad sign: the Dodger All Star marketing campaign is centered on Furcal.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 12:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

He’s still probably our best offensive player.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Statwise. We’ve sucked since he’s gone on the shelf as you’ve pointed out already.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Martin’s almost caught up to him in VORP at least.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Damn you, BK Indiana Jones scratch-off game. I almost had a free double stacker!

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 12:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I don’t like it when my burger calls me a loser.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Actually, these ones just apologize to you and tell you to try again. And I assume they tell you that in Spanish, too, although I can’t read Spanish. “Trate de nuevo!”

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I guess the Spanish don’t need to be apologized to. That’s basically try again.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I really wanted that Double Stacker. Or some chicken fries. My friend said you can win free Chicken fries.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Are chicken fries as horrifying as I imagine?

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nah, they’re pretty sweet. Although the buffalo sauce they come with are pretty mediocre. I think you can get any dipping sauce you want, but they seem like they wouldn’t taste good with ranch, my usual go-to dipping sauce. Even though the buffalo sauce isn’t the best dipping sauce ever, it seems like it’s the perfect fit for the fries.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think the fairy dust is wearing off.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 12:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

At least nobody can tell you you were wrong about the suckitude of Chan Ho.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I can’t believe we’re getting shut out by Nate Robertson.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 12:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

It’s hard to score when you have five automatic outs in a row.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Blake DeWitt is certainly not helping his cause to stay in the majors.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 12:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

But he saved a run!

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

And based on Torre’s comments, DeWitt is our third baseman until Ned takes him from his cold dead hands.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think a bonus for Colletti is that it seems that Colletti will be more likely to send DeWitt back down to the minors, rather than just keeping him up because he’s Torre’s favorite character. Colletti knows he needs to put LaRoche in there sooner or later.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I guess that could have been worse.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 12:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Eric Stults threw 6 scoreless today in AAA. Helping his case to get called up to the majors.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 12:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Recently heard on Dodger Thoughts:

We should have signed Shawn Estes instead of Brad Penny.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 12:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I can’t believe he A) still is in the majors and B) is only 35. It seems like he’s been around since 1991.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

He is? That’s news to me.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

He’s playing for the Padres. I don’t think he played last year because he was injured. He’s pitched in 5 games this year, and started 4.

I just looked him up in on baseball reference, and saw the Giants got him in the Salomon Torres deal back in ‘95. I clicked on Torres’ page, and the guy who sponsors it said:

“Thanks for ‘93, I still blame you.” Classic.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

It is sad that my favorite memories at Dodger games involve either Chan Ho karate kicking someone or us completely screwing the Giants.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m not sure what my favorite Dodger memory. Probably when I went to see the Reds-Dodgers play in ‘05 (The Year of Beltre) and seeing Shawn Green, my favorite player, hit a homer. I think the Dodgers won 8-1 or something in that game. That was the last game I saw Green play in person.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I mean ‘04.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I guess the Lima time game was a positive memory that actually involved a Dodger win.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The rare extra base hit from Kemp.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 12:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

He needs to start carrying this offense.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’d enjoy it if anyone was hitting.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sweet. Goldstein just posted his NL West recap on BP.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 1:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

The Giants’ draft was way too good. Here’s hoping they don’t sign any of them.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Some of our 2nd day picks are intriguing.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I like the St. Clair and Cox picks, but I don’t see us signing Cox based on our recent history.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hope he’s not represented by Boras, because Colletti has been such a baby about signing Boras guys since Drew left the team.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Berroa walked?

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 1:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

DFA whoever the Tigers pitcher is.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

And it was Denny Bautista. That guy has no command.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Is there any difference between ‘command’ and ‘control’ in baseball terminology?

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

LaRoche seems to have recovered from his face smashing.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 1:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

And he looks like he’s trying to join the bad facial hair club on the Dodgers.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

List

Here’s my idea of who Torre and Bowa hate the most among the rookies:

Kemp
Ethier
Loney
LaRoche (because he’s threatening their golden boy)
Martin
Billingsley (because he only plays once every 5 days)

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 1:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Your forgetting Martin’s veteran savvy

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

But I like to think he hangs out with the other rookies, so they hate him for that. Like Pink Floyd in Dazed and Confused. Plus, he’s dating (or dated) Alyssa Milano. Dating actresses? Who does he think he is!? DiMaggio! That’s probably what Bowa said.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That’s true, he should be going out to a dive and drinking Glenfyddich with Torre, Kent and Sweeney.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Don’t forget DeWitt. They probably drag him along.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

....but, but, I was going to go bang Alyssa Milano.

Sounds like someone doesn’t know how to play the game the right way.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mark Sweeney? Alyssa Milano? Hmm. Tough choice.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow, never would have even thought Renteria had a shot at 3000 hits.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 1:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Wouldn’t it just be easier for everyone if we trade Kent? LaRoche could be the next Chase Utley at 2B.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 1:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Probably, but I don’t think anyone would take him.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Back above .750!

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 1:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

What?

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

DeWitt’s OPS.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Holy crap, a home run.

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by Andrew on Jun 15, 2008 1:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

You’re ahead of my MLB radio.

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Is it worrisome that Milano has already dated Penny and is now dating Martin? What if she breaks up with him and starts dating Ethier? Clubhouse turmoil!

by Tango and Cash on Jun 15, 2008 1:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs