Game Thread 7/9: Atlanta Braves
Atlanta Braves at Los Angeles Dodgers, Jul 9, 2008 7:10 PM PDT
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DeWitt killed Andy LaRoche
there is no other explanation.
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by bluemax on Jul 9, 2008 7:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Everytime DeWitt gets a hit, I cringe because I know that means Torre has an excuse to keep him in the lineup another week.
by Tango and Cash on Jul 9, 2008 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That makes two of us
Managers can be so dumb sometimes.
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by bluemax on Jul 9, 2008 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DeWitt probably bought himself another month with his hot streak of two games.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s getting to the point where I’m going to hate DeWitt through no fault of his own, but solely because Torre won’t start playing LaRoche because of him.
by Tango and Cash on Jul 9, 2008 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone see the new Plaschke article where he says that “Dewitt is a ballplayer”? It’s up on FJM right now.
by Tango and Cash on Jul 9, 2008 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
AKA DeWitt is [white].
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m actually amazed i didn’t get stabbed at the game last night. The main topic of conversation I had was how much DeWitt and Nomar suck.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not very, but I had a pretty good amount of tequila at that point so it might have been hard to notice.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good start for Lowe
2GO 1SO.
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by bluemax on Jul 9, 2008 7:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Good second inning too
only 7 pitches and another 2 GO.
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by bluemax on Jul 9, 2008 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
11 pitches that inning
not bad, Hudson made him work, heh.
5-1 GO to FO very good.
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by bluemax on Jul 9, 2008 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maza has the same stance as Furcal. I got confused for a second.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 7:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m sure the constant Maza ground outs help you differentiate the two.
by Tango and Cash on Jul 9, 2008 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They help. I wonder if Lowe would be happier with Maza, Kent, or Andy behind him.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DeWitt 2 pitch ground out
AWESOME.
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by bluemax on Jul 9, 2008 7:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This Pirates argument on the other thread below is going to be neverending.
by Tango and Cash on Jul 9, 2008 7:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Dear God. I never thought saying “the Pirates are a hopeless team” would be a contreversial statement.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t really help but respond, but this isn’t an isolate case. It seems that a lot of Pirates fans on the Pirates blog have deluded themselves into thinking that a) Jack Wilson is really good at baseball and b) the Pirates should not trade him.
by Tango and Cash on Jul 9, 2008 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Jack Wilson is a little underrated but he’s at best decent. These people realize that they aren’t making the playoffs this year, they’re hopeless defensively and at best mediocre at everything else, right? And that they have no farm system to speak of?
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't include Nady with Wilson in a trade for Kemp
Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Ha. I need a drink.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes. I also enjoyed that. Maybe they don’t want to give up Nady because they can pretend he’s really, really good and it helps them forget that they got ripped off by the Mets.
by Tango and Cash on Jul 9, 2008 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t judge a blog based on it’s commenters because Charlie is one of the best here, but, wow they’re delusional. They want to keep a team together that’s 11.5 back
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t mean to criticize the blog. I merely meant wanted you to look at the comments so you could see that a lot of Pirates’ fans think like this, and honestly, I’m not sure why.
by Tango and Cash on Jul 9, 2008 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sadly, this is the best team they’ve had in like 15 years. I can see why they might be excited about it.
Still who the hell thinks “let’s hold on to our mediocre guys” is a valid strategy.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Mariners front office
:(
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by bluemax on Jul 9, 2008 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ex-front office at least.
I mean, would they get excited if they went out and signed Pedro Feliz this offseason?
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Given the Sabathia and Harden trades and the package received for them, we probably shouldn’t need to give up much to get Jack Wilson, especially if we pay 100% of his salary, so I’m confused on why these fans want so much for their mediocre players. McDonald, Kemp, or Kershaw? Really?
by Tango and Cash on Jul 9, 2008 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly. The A’s basically got two bench players and set back Gaudin’s service time by three years for Harden. One of the five best pitchers in baseball was worth a guy who’s maybe as valuable as Andy.
Jack Wilson is worth, at best, Jonathan Meloan, and the Pirates would be fools not to do it.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe you can throw in Lucas May or something like that.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
More like Derek uhhhh….doesn’t blow.
Nothing positive ryhmes with Lowe.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 8:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Andruw Jones is worth all this money because listening to the crowd boo everytime he makes an out has become entertaining.
by Tango and Cash on Jul 9, 2008 8:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I was unironically cheering Andruw last night which probably didn’t make me any friends either.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best Andruw Jones moment of the year for me
was the game against Houston where Backe was pitching. I was at that game, and he got booed to hell and back until the inning he came up with runners on and clubbed a long just foul ball. The crowd started roaring and believing he could hit something hard.
He ended up getting on thanks to an error of a blooper to LF.
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by bluemax on Jul 9, 2008 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We’ve played five innings in an hour.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 8:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
At what point do we stop talking about how good Lowe is pitching?
by Tango and Cash on Jul 9, 2008 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
After this inning I think.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or when Torre inexplicably puts in Beimel to blow the game
Or Cory Wade.
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by bluemax on Jul 9, 2008 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Derek Lowe is under appreciated. Last thing I’m gonna say.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So hmm
yesterday’s game seems really weird considering the day before and today.
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by bluemax on Jul 9, 2008 8:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess after seeing the no hitter I was due for a really terrible one.
I did get to see a guy try to break dance to Stronger before security beat his ass. That was pretty entertaining.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maza is not nearly respected enough to pull that off. Who’s he think he is, Chipper Jones?
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 8:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I learned today that the press doesn’t like Kemp because he likes that hip hop music. I don’t think people realize that even the whitest college kids will bump Kayne at all times.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 8:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
One of my more entertaining recent memories is seeing a bunch of privileged white kids get really into Immortal Technique.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Followed by some rail thin kid with a jewfro try to throw him off the stage.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just wish someone would come out and say that Plaschke doesn’t like Kemp because he’s black. Then Plaschke would be so scared that everyone would think he was a racist, that he’d start talking about how great Kemp really is.
by Tango and Cash on Jul 9, 2008 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I endorse this
actually I’d rather just have Plaschke fired.
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by bluemax on Jul 9, 2008 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kemp!
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 8:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Kemp!
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How bad is the electricity crisis? This is the 2nd commercial on LA radio that I’ve heard about it.
by Tango and Cash on Jul 9, 2008 8:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not that bad, it just happens every summer.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope they show a commercial of Schwarzenegger leading a team of commandos to the generators while saying “Get to the generators! Watch out, they’re firing at us! Get down! Get down! Get to the choppa!”
by Tango and Cash on Jul 9, 2008 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's a crisis?
first I’ve heard of it.
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by bluemax on Jul 9, 2008 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I keep on hearing crisis commercials on MLB radio.
by Tango and Cash on Jul 9, 2008 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dammit.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 8:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s always the worst player on the team that breaks them up.
by Tango and Cash on Jul 9, 2008 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Gregor Blanco were named Reggie Willits he’d be the most beloved man in baseball. Look at that scrappy .270/.380/.330 line.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is having a slug lower than your OBP the very definition of scrappy?
by Tango and Cash on Jul 9, 2008 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing scrappier, but, you know, he’s not white.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I forgot that being white is a necessary condition of being scrappy.
by Tango and Cash on Jul 9, 2008 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno
Angels fans tell me Chone Figgins broke the color barrier on scrappiness.
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by bluemax on Jul 9, 2008 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Figgy just got Figgy with it.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We can’t stop the force that is Gregor Blanco.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 8:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That was a little scary.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 8:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Defensive replacement Angel Berroa. I honestly don’t know if this is a good idea.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 8:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn’t it just be more fitting to call him the ‘Replacement’? Zing!
by Tango and Cash on Jul 9, 2008 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re on fire.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Neyer Chat
I remember when Neyer first broke the ESPN chat record, and somebody asked him this:
Matt (Kansas City): If you were running a team, and your only two choices to play shortstop were Angel Berroa and Neifi Perez, who would you pick? Mike Sweeney?
SportsNation Rob Neyer: Oh, Perez. Easily. At least he can actually play the position. Berroa might be the worst player in the majors, as he doesn’t do anything well. Just an absolute disaster.
by Tango and Cash on Jul 9, 2008 8:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Then I Responded With This:
Rich (Blacksburg, VA): Rob, My brother just brought up the point that you can’t consider Angel Berroa to be the worst player in the majors as long as Christian Guzman is on an MLB roster. Would you concur?
SportsNation Rob Neyer: Hey, at least Guzman can run. That’s my point about Berroa: he doesn’t bring anything to the table. Can’t hit, can’t field, can’t run, can’t walk. Doesn’t even keep a toothpick in his mouth when he’s playing. At least that would be something.
by Tango and Cash on Jul 9, 2008 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I said almost the exact same thing last night.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are so few players in baseball that do absolutely nothing well. It’s amazing Ned has got two in the last year.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Watch out, that guy with 10 steals in the last four years might go!
I’d go further, but my commentary on race relations in baseball has gone far enough tonight.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 8:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Andruw Jones is going to get so angry that Martin got walked so they could pitch to him, that he’s going to go straight into the dugout after he grounds out to SS and eat a Choco Taco.
by Tango and Cash on Jul 9, 2008 8:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sketchy, but I’ll allow it for the Choco Taco reference.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Choco Taco was my ace in the hole. Even if the joke bombed, it’d get a laugh. One day, Carlos Mencia will learn this technique. Then Mind With Mencia will go from unbearably mindnumbing to mindnumbingly horrible.
by Tango and Cash on Jul 9, 2008 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d have a good response here but I feel like writing the word “beaner” 15 times after what I’ve posted tonight would be hypocritical.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ANDRUW!
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 8:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I was actually hoping Dodger fans would sit there in stunned silence, not knowing what to do after he hit that single.
by Tango and Cash on Jul 9, 2008 8:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
But Andruw gets a standing O!
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have to give it to Dodger fans for giving Jones a Standing O.
by Tango and Cash on Jul 9, 2008 8:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And there goes the shutout. Francouer must be angry at being sent to AA.
by Tango and Cash on Jul 9, 2008 8:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Seriously, I pee for one second and that happens.
Glad to see that weekend in AA helped Frenchy so much though.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 8:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Please tell me fans were booing at Francouer and not Lowe.
by Tango and Cash on Jul 9, 2008 8:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope, but we booed Bills last night after he got nickel and dimed for three runs.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on Joe. You gotta keep him in to face the 9 spot.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 8:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He can’t handle Ruben Gotay? Really?
by Tango and Cash on Jul 9, 2008 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s a lot of guys on the Braves that I’m amazed are there. I had no idea they had Gotay, Will Ohman or Julian Tavarez.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lowe could have done that.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 8:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t say get caught stealing.
by Tango and Cash on Jul 9, 2008 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love having Garret Atkins on my bench when he hits 2 homers in a game.
by Tango and Cash on Jul 9, 2008 9:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You’ll be happy to know that according to some guy on Dodger Talk we can give up Andy and all of our bad players for Atkins and Holliday, and you can read about it on his blog.
Since I have the official Ken Levine seal of approval, I wouldn’t have gotten mocked for mentioning it.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rick Monday might be the most mundane man in existence.
by Tango and Cash on Jul 9, 2008 9:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Have you ever saved the flag?
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Freedom of expression, man! Monday’s a fascist!
by Tango and Cash on Jul 9, 2008 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s weird that several years after I got into the Silversun Pickups they’re being used as the All Star game theme song.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 9:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I only heard of them about a year or so ago
(and before they were on the radio everywhere) and I still find it strange.
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by bluemax on Jul 9, 2008 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’ll it’s still amazing to me the lead singer is a guy. The chick who does backup vocals has a deeper voice than him.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Greg Norton! Who knew he was on the Braves.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 9:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Who knew he still played baseball?
by Tango and Cash on Jul 9, 2008 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last I heard he got DFAed so the Mariners could keep Miguel Cairo.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eat it Gregor.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 9:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Two hour game!
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 9:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
First place!
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 9:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m glad I listened to it instead of watching movies from Netflix.
by Tango and Cash on Jul 9, 2008 9:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Dammit now you made me think about watching No Country instead of crashing in half an hour.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tomorrow maybe. This was a three cup of coffee day for me. I can be strong. Besides there’s Rock Band songs to buy.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They need to hurry up
and put up the rest of the Offpspring stuff they mentioned.
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by bluemax on Jul 9, 2008 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’ll be amazing. Hammerhead is fun but it’s a pain in the ass on everything but vocals. I might actually be able to get crowd participation on Come Out And Play.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can pass it on Hard on Guitar
but my girlfriend flails away on the drums on it on Medium. From what I’ve read its possibly the hardest song now on drums.
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by bluemax on Jul 9, 2008 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is. That and Sick, Sick, Sick are the only songs I can’t do on hard drums. I’ve played way too much fake guitar to fail anything now, but I three star the thing on expert.
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by Andrew on Jul 9, 2008 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just watched that on Blu Ray
great movie.
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