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[Extra Update]

Done deal according to MLB.COM

Payroll is dropping fast. Eric should be here with a payroll update any second. Are the McCourt's getting ready to splurge on Manny and a pitcher, or just Manny, or nobody and build 50 more fields, or buy another Malibu house, or simply count their money?

[Update]

SI is reporting that the refinance has been completed

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Reports are circulating that the Dodgers are trying to renegotiate the A Jones contract to free up some money to sign Manny. Boras is involved on both sides as he represents Jones and Manny.

A Jones is owed:
15 Million in Salary in 2009
2.1 Million as part of his bonus in 2009
5.0 Million in 2010 as part of his bonus

He also has a full no trade clause.

If this was basketball the Dodgers would simply buy out Jones and make him a free agent but I don't recall that ever happening in baseball. Why would Jones agree to modifiy his contract?

1. If the Dodgers sign Manny he's is going to be a 4th or 5th outfielder and he wants to play. With his current contract he is untradeble.

2. If he agrees to modify his contract so that the amount is the same but spread out over three years it would make it easier to trade him.

Stay tuned, this could get interesting.

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I think that rumor is bogus

I don’t think they’ve offered him anything, at least yet.

by Brendan Scolari on Jan 2, 2009 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

The Giants' Front Office

is the perfect Boras tool to drive up the bidding for Manny. While it doesn’t seem reasonable for SF to make a run at Manny, reason has been a stranger to Sabean & Co. for a while now.

by ishXdavid on Jan 2, 2009 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

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I don’t see how Manny in LF for the Giants is anymore unreasonable then he is in LF for us. That team has enough pitching that adding Manny could make a huge difference for them. They have so much good young pitching they could trade some of the top prospects to bring in more hitters to balance the lineup. The Giants are going to be tough for any opponent next year.
They have the same problem we have except our contracts with Jones/Schmidt are gone next year while Zito’s will continue to haunt them for a long time.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 2, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

youth movement?

I thought Giants fans were being told that the organization was in the midst of a youth movement? I know that sounds contrary to what some of their offseason moves have been, but that’s what my season-ticket holding uncle told me about the Giants organizational direction.

It’s “unreasonable” because anything that helps the Giants and hurts the Dodgers is beyond reason! hahaha

by ishXdavid on Jan 2, 2009 2:07 PM PST reply actions  

just read

giants have offer 3 years with team optin for a 4th one to manny

by XXDC2XX on Jan 2, 2009 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Doubt it, there's been a lot of conflicting reports.

We also apparently offered him a 3 year deal but it was ignored.

by Brendan Scolari on Jan 2, 2009 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

it's probably just a bluff by boras but

if giants were interested in manny and got him, they will have the best rotation in baseball and the best right hand hitter, which could be enough to contedn in our division, and in case they need one more player, they could trade some of their young player.

A problem for them could be the insane amount of walks manny would get as he would basically have no protection.

by XXDC2XX on Jan 2, 2009 5:25 PM PST up reply actions  

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Jeff Kent ain’t doing nothing.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 2, 2009 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of, I actually sat next to Jeff Kent's family at a game in SF last year

They were nice people seemingly, a bit different than Jeff. But it was funny watching them fight the stadium as everyone boo’d whenever Kent came up. I reckon Kent wouldn’t want to go back there too much.

by Brendan Scolari on Jan 2, 2009 9:46 PM PST up reply actions  

They could contend without him,

I’m just saying I don’t think they’ll make a four year offer, or even a three year offer. They said they were looking into other options as well. But maybe its just my optimistic side speaking.

by Brendan Scolari on Jan 2, 2009 9:43 PM PST up reply actions  

You cannot buy a player out of his contract in baseball

unless it’s part of the original contract agreement. In basketball, the CBA allows for a player to be bought out at 60 cents on the dollar, but in baseball you cannot. Even deferring money like this is tricky and the union often pressures players not to.

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 2, 2009 11:14 PM PST reply actions  

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The players union already approved it so while it is unusual it is a done deal.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 3, 2009 8:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Wonder if teams are going to start doing deals like this. Royals and Guillen seems like a good first step.

by Tripon on Jan 3, 2009 8:41 PM PST up reply actions  

on total salary

just a rough estimate but i come up with $70.8 mil for the currrent roster, with four players, (Martin, Ethier,Brox, and Repko getting arbitration awards.Total should be in the neighborhood of 80-85 mil
train

by Bluetrain on Jan 4, 2009 2:19 AM PST reply actions  

edit on tht last post, total is 63 mil so after arbitration players 73 to 78. To reach last years salary level have to spend 40-45 mil

by Bluetrain on Jan 4, 2009 4:01 AM PST reply actions  

I figure the arb raises won't be much more than 10 million.

Martin should be no more than 4 million, and Ethier and Broxton no more than 3 million. Repko should be less than 1 million. So 73 million sounds about right if the 63 million initial figure is correct.

by Brendan Scolari on Jan 4, 2009 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

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2012 Dodgers Payroll

Italics denote estimates
Pos No Player 2012 Salary
C 17 Ellis $500,000 team control
1B 7 Loney $6,375,000
2B 14 Ellis $2,500,000
3B 5 Uribe $8,000,000
SS 9 Gordon $485,000 team control
LF 21 Rivera $4,000,000
CF 27 Kemp $10,000,000
RF 16 Ethier $10,950,000

IF/OF 6 Hairston $2,250,000
OF 10 Gwynn $850,000
2B/3B 3 Kennedy $800,000
C 18 Treanor $850,000
IF 12 Sellers $485,000 team control

SP 22 Kershaw $6,000,000
SP 58 Billingsley $9,000,000
SP 29 Lilly $12,000,000
SP 35 Capuano $3,000,000
SP 44
Harang $3,000,000

CL 54 Guerra $485,000 team control
RHP 74
Jansen $500,000 team control
RHP 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
RHP 60 Coffey $1,000,000
RHP 66 MacDougal $650,000
LHP 57 Elbert $485,000 team control
RHP 36
Hawksworth $500,000 team control

TJ 41 De La Rosa $485,000 team control



Manny $8,087,432 deferred


Andruw $3,375,000 deferred


Pierre $3,050,000 deferred
Furcal $3,000,000 deferred
Kuroda $2,000,000 deferred
Garland $1,500,000 option buyout
Blake $1,250,000 option buyout

Totals
$112,162,432

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Players on 40-man roster used as roster
fillers until moves are made.

Current 40-man roster count: 40
(not including Belisario)

2012 Non-Roster Invitees

No Player Age*
63 Jose Ascanio rhp
27
61 Alberto Castillo lhp
36
56 Matt Chico lhp
29
33 John Grabow lhp
33
59 Angel Guzman rhp
30
47 Wil Ledezma lhp
31
72 Shane Lindsay rhp
27
62 Fernando Nieve rhp 29
73 Scott Rice lhp 30
70 Will Savage rhp
27
71 Ryan Tucker rhp
25
28 Jamey Wright rhp
37

30 Josh Bard c 34
82 Griff Erickson c 24
81 Matt Wallachc 26
67 Jeff Baisley 3b/1b 29
65 Luis Cruz ss/2b 28
37 Josh Fields 3b 29
64 Lance Zawadzki if 27
56 Cory Sullivan of 32

*Age on June 30, 2012

NRI count: 20

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