Boras Time

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 1, 2009 8:50 PM PST Comment 19 comments

[Extra Update]

Payroll is dropping fast. Eric should be here with a payroll update any second. Are the McCourt's getting ready to splurge on Manny and a pitcher, or just Manny, or nobody and build 50 more fields, or buy another Malibu house, or simply count their money?

[Update]

SI is reporting that the refinance has been completed

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Reports are circulating that the Dodgers are trying to renegotiate the A Jones contract to free up some money to sign Manny. Boras is involved on both sides as he represents Jones and Manny.

A Jones is owed:
15 Million in Salary in 2009
2.1 Million as part of his bonus in 2009
5.0 Million in 2010 as part of his bonus

He also has a full no trade clause.

If this was basketball the Dodgers would simply buy out Jones and make him a free agent but I don't recall that ever happening in baseball. Why would Jones agree to modifiy his contract?

1. If the Dodgers sign Manny he's is going to be a 4th or 5th outfielder and he wants to play. With his current contract he is untradeble.

2. If he agrees to modify his contract so that the amount is the same but spread out over three years it would make it easier to trade him.

Stay tuned, this could get interesting.

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Lets just hope we don't end up having to pay him the whole 22 million

by Brendan Scolari on Jan 1, 2009 10:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

read that giants might be making a run at manny

by XXDC2XX on Jan 2, 2009 10:41 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

I think that rumor is bogus

I don’t think they’ve offered him anything, at least yet.

by Brendan Scolari on Jan 2, 2009 11:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

The Giants' Front Office

is the perfect Boras tool to drive up the bidding for Manny. While it doesn’t seem reasonable for SF to make a run at Manny, reason has been a stranger to Sabean & Co. for a while now.

by ishXdavid on Jan 2, 2009 1:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

re:

I don’t see how Manny in LF for the Giants is anymore unreasonable then he is in LF for us. That team has enough pitching that adding Manny could make a huge difference for them. They have so much good young pitching they could trade some of the top prospects to bring in more hitters to balance the lineup. The Giants are going to be tough for any opponent next year.
They have the same problem we have except our contracts with Jones/Schmidt are gone next year while Zito’s will continue to haunt them for a long time.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 2, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

youth movement?

I thought Giants fans were being told that the organization was in the midst of a youth movement? I know that sounds contrary to what some of their offseason moves have been, but that’s what my season-ticket holding uncle told me about the Giants organizational direction.

It’s “unreasonable” because anything that helps the Giants and hurts the Dodgers is beyond reason! hahaha

by ishXdavid on Jan 2, 2009 2:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

just read

giants have offer 3 years with team optin for a 4th one to manny

by XXDC2XX on Jan 2, 2009 4:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Doubt it, there's been a lot of conflicting reports.

We also apparently offered him a 3 year deal but it was ignored.

by Brendan Scolari on Jan 2, 2009 4:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

it's probably just a bluff by boras but

if giants were interested in manny and got him, they will have the best rotation in baseball and the best right hand hitter, which could be enough to contedn in our division, and in case they need one more player, they could trade some of their young player.

A problem for them could be the insane amount of walks manny would get as he would basically have no protection.

by XXDC2XX on Jan 2, 2009 5:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

RE:

Jeff Kent ain’t doing nothing.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 2, 2009 5:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Speaking of, I actually sat next to Jeff Kent's family at a game in SF last year

They were nice people seemingly, a bit different than Jeff. But it was funny watching them fight the stadium as everyone boo’d whenever Kent came up. I reckon Kent wouldn’t want to go back there too much.

by Brendan Scolari on Jan 2, 2009 9:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

They could contend without him,

I’m just saying I don’t think they’ll make a four year offer, or even a three year offer. They said they were looking into other options as well. But maybe its just my optimistic side speaking.

by Brendan Scolari on Jan 2, 2009 9:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

You cannot buy a player out of his contract in baseball

unless it’s part of the original contract agreement. In basketball, the CBA allows for a player to be bought out at 60 cents on the dollar, but in baseball you cannot. Even deferring money like this is tricky and the union often pressures players not to.

by ryebreadraz on Jan 2, 2009 11:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

re;

The players union already approved it so while it is unusual it is a done deal.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 3, 2009 8:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

No interest on the deffered moneyt!!!

Good for us

by Brendan Scolari on Jan 3, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Wonder if teams are going to start doing deals like this. Royals and Guillen seems like a good first step.

by Tripon on Jan 3, 2009 8:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

on total salary

just a rough estimate but i come up with $70.8 mil for the currrent roster, with four players, (Martin, Ethier,Brox, and Repko getting arbitration awards.Total should be in the neighborhood of 80-85 mil
train

by Bluetrain on Jan 4, 2009 2:19 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

edit on tht last post, total is 63 mil so after arbitration players 73 to 78. To reach last years salary level have to spend 40-45 mil

by Bluetrain on Jan 4, 2009 4:01 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

I figure the arb raises won't be much more than 10 million.

Martin should be no more than 4 million, and Ethier and Broxton no more than 3 million. Repko should be less than 1 million. So 73 million sounds about right if the 63 million initial figure is correct.

by Brendan Scolari on Jan 4, 2009 5:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs