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Updated Dodger Payroll

Here is the payroll, through 2011.

Star-divide

Pos Player 2008 2009 2010 2011
C Martin $500,000 $3,900,000 $6,000,000 $8,500,000
1B Loney $411,000 $465,000 $3,000,000 $4,500,000
2B Hudson1 $4,800,000 $380,000  
3B Blake2 $0 $5,000,000 $6,000,000 $5,250,000
SS Furcal3 $13,000,000 $10,500,000 $8,500,000 $12,000,000
LF Manny4 $1,000,000 $7,267,760 $10,000,000 $6,967,213
CF Kemp $406,000 $467,000 $3,500,000 $5,000,000
RF Ethier5 $424,500 $3,100,000 $5,000,000 $7,500,000

OF Pierre $8,000,000 $10,000,000 $10,000,000 $8,500,000
2B/1B/3B Loretta6 $1,250,000    
SS/2B/3B Castro7 $669,399
C Ausmus8 $1,000,000    

SP Billingsley $415,000 $475,000 $4,000,000 $6,000,000
SP Kuroda $12,300,000 $10,000,000 $13,000,000  
SP Wolf9
$500,000 $5,000,000    
SP Kershaw $390,000 $404,000 $450,000 $500,000
SP Milton10 $557,923

CL Broxton11 $454,000 $1,825,000 $4,000,000 $6,000,000
RP Belisario $400,000 $425,000 $450,000
RP Troncoso $401,000 $425,000 $450,000
RP Leach12   $340,984 $425,000 $450,000
RP Weaver13 $431,694
RP McDonald14 $321,914 $425,000 $500,000
RP Mota15 $2,350,000    
RP Vargas16 $450,000

DL Kuo $392,000 $437,000 $1,500,000 $2,250,000
DL Ohman17 $1,350,000 $200,000
DL Paul18 $330,055 $425,000
$450,000
DL Mientkiewicz19 $550,000    
DL Schmidt $14,500,000 $16,000,000 $2,500,000 $1,000,000
AAA Repko20 $487,500 $500,000 $700,000 $1,000,000
AAA Wade21 $390,000 $184,754 $450,000 $1,000,000
AAA Stults22 $180,131 $425,000 $450,000
AAA Ellis23 $43,715
AAA Hoffmann24 $52,459  
 
AAA DeWitt25 $73,033
RP Schlichting26 $43,716
AA Elbert27
$26,230
DFA Jones28
$56,831
D.Young29 $391,000 $22,186
Andruw30 $14,100,000 $4,850,000 $5,000,000 $3,000,000
Nomar $8,500,000 $1,250,000 $1,250,000
Penny $9,500,000 $2,000,000
Loaiza $6,740,000 $375,000
Lowe $10,000,000
Kent $9,000,000
Beimel $2,045,000
Saito $2,000,000
Maddux $1,200,000
Proctor $1,115,000
Bennett $825,000 $50,000
Sweeney $725,000
Brazoban $540,000
Park $500,000
Seanez $135,225
Tomko $1,000,000
Mueller $750,000
Odalis $750,000
Lieberthal $100,000
Totals $123,876,225 $99,751,784 $87,980,000 $81,717,213

Bold = Arbitration

Italics = Estimated

Red = Option Buyout

Blue = Deferred Salary or Signing Bonus

Burgundy = Partial or Pro-Rated Salary

Note:  A full season of salary is earned over 183 days (April 5 through October 4).  Any players currently on the active roster or disabled list will be assumed to be on the roster for the remainder of the year.

Incentives

1) Orlando Hudson:  $3 million base salary, plus potential for $4.62 million in incentives, all based on plate appearances (per Tony Jackson)
$380,000 signing bonus, deferred to a time not yet designated (I am counting this for 2010 until I hear otherwise)
$150,000 for 150 PA -- achieved May 10
$150,000 for 175 PA -- achieved May 16
$200,000 for 200 PA -- achieved May 22
$200,000 for 225 PA -- achieved May 27

$200,000 for 250 PA -- achieved June 2
$200,000 for 275 PA -- achieved June 10

$200,000 for 300 PA -- achieved June 17
$250,000 for 325 PA -- achieved June 23
$250,000 for 350 PA -- achieved June 29
$250,000 for 375 PA
$250,000 for 400 PA
$250,000 for 425 PA
$250,000 for 450 PA
$250,000 for 475 PA
$250,000 for 500 PA
$250,000 for 525 PA
$250,000 for 550 PA*
$250,000 for 575 PA*
$10,000 for each PA, 576-632*
*Beginning with 550 PA, each subsequent incentive is deferred without interest to a time not yet designated (again, I will count this for 2010 until I hear otherwise)

2) Casey Blake: :  potential for $500k in incentives (per Associated Press)
$125,000 for 525 PA
$125,000 for 550 PA
$125,000 for 575 PA
$125,000 for 600 PA

3) Rafael Furcal:  receives a $1m bonus for "maintaining a core strengthening program to keep his back healthy" (per Diamond Leung)

4) Manny Ramirez:  2010 is a player option for $20 million. From the Associated Press via ESPN.com:

Ramirez gets $10 million this year, and $15 million in deferred money with no interest, payable in $5 million installments each Jan. 15 from 2010 through 2012. If it winds up as a two-year deal, he gets $10 million each season, with three payments of $8,333,333 each Jan. 15 from 2011-13.

Manny's suspension means he won't be paid for the 50 game days he will miss, so his $25,000,000 salary is paid for only 133 of the 183 days of the regular season:  $25,000,000 x 133/183 = $18,169,301

However, with his deferred salary, his payout of his 2009 salary should be as follows:
2009: $7,267,760
2010: $3,633,880
2011: $3,633,880
2012: $3,633,880

For purposes of this worksheet, I have assumed Manny will exercise his $20 million 2010 option, which would result in the following payout:
2009: $7,267,760 ($10m base, less suspension)
2010: $10,000,000 (2010 base salary)
2011: $6,967,213 ($5m deferred from 2009, less suspension, plus $3,333,333 deferred from 2010)
2011: $6,967,213 ($5m deferred from 2009, less suspension, plus $3,333,333 deferred from 2010)
2012: $6,967,213 ($5m deferred from 2009, less suspension, plus $3,333,333 deferred from 2010)

5) Andre Ethierpotential for $100k in incentives (per Tony Jackson)
$25,000 for 596 plate appearances
$25,000 for 625 PA
$50,000 for 650 PA

6) Mark Lorettapotential for $200k in incentives (per ESPN.com)
$25,000 for 250 PA
$25,000 for 300 PA
$50,000 for 400 PA
$100,000 for 450 PA

7) Juan Castro: a minor league deal.  He will earn $700,000 in the majors and can ask for his release if not on the 40-man roster by June 30 (per Troy Renck of the Denver Post).

His major league salary is $700,000, and he was recalled on April 13, with 175 days remaining in the regular season. 
$700,000 x 175/183 = $669,399

If in the minors, Castro will earn $81,000.  Castro also has incentives of up to $175,000 (per the Associated Press):
$25,000 for 300 plate appearances
$25,000 for 350 PA
$25,000 for 400 PA
$50,000 for 450 PA
$50,000 for 500 PA

8) Brad Ausmus:  potential for $350,000 in incentives (confirmed via email from Tony Jackson):
$25,000 for 150 PA
$25,000 for 175 PA
$25,000 for 200 PA
$25,000 for 225 PA
$25,000 for 250 PA
$25,000 for 300 PA
$50,000 for 350 PA
$50,000 for 400 PA
$100,000 for 450 PA

9) Randy Wolf:  potential for $3 million in incentives (per Diamond Leung)
$500,000 for 170 innings
$500,000 for 180 IP
$500,000 for 185 IP
$500,000 for 190 IP
$500,000 for 195 IP
$500,000 for 200 IP

10) Eric Milton (not listed above):  also on a minor league deal, Milton is vying for either the 5th starter spot or a bullpen role.  "If added to the 40-man roster, the pitcher would get a one-year contract calling for $650,000 in the majors and $72,000 in the minors. He could earn an additional $1.05 million based on starts five through 30, and $150,000 based on relief appearances 50 through 70." (per Associated Press)

His major league salary is $650,000, and he was recalled on May 15, with 143 days remaining in the regular season. 
$650,000 x 143/183 = $507,923

Per Cot's Contracts, Milton will also earn:
$50,000 for 5 games started - achieved June 27
$100,000 for 10 GS
$150,000 for 15 GS
$200,000 for 20 GS
$250,000 for 25 GS
$300,000 for 30 GS
$50,000 for 50 relief appearances
$50,000 for 60 relief appearances
$50,000 for 70 relief appearances

11) Jonathan Broxton:  potential for $200k in incentives (per Tony Jackson)
$50,000 for 45 games finished
$50,000 for 50 GF
$50,000 for 55 GF
$50,000 for 60 GF

12) Brent Leach:  His salary is $400,000, and he was recalled on May 2, with 156 days remaining in the regular season. 
$400,000 x 156/183 = $340,984

13) Jeff Weaver:  a minor league deal, Weaver is vying for a bullpen role and will earn $500,000 if he makes the big club. (per Ken Gurnick)

His major league salary is $500,000, and he was recalled on April 30, with 158 days remaining in the regular season. 
$500,000 x 158/183 = $431,694

14) James McDonald:  His salary is $400,750, and he was on the major league roster from opening day through May 14, for a total of 40 days. 
$400,750 x 40/183 = $87,596

He was recalled on June 20, with 107 days remaining in the regular season. 
$400,750 x 107/183 = $234,318

15) Guillermo Motapotential for $300k in incentives (per Diamond Leung)
$75,000 for 30 games finished
$75,000 for 40 GF
$75,000 for 50 GF
$75,000 for 60 GF

16) Claudio Vargas:  potential for an additional $1.4 million in incentives (confirmed via email from Tony Jackson):
$50,000 for 5 games started
$50,000 for 10 GS
$150,000 for 15 GS
$200,000 for 20 GS
$250,000 for 25 GS
$300,000 for 30 GS
$50,000 for 1 day on 25-man roster* - achieved July 3
$50,000 for 60 days on 25-man roster*
$100,000 for 90 days on 25-man roster*
$100,000 for 120 days on 25-man roster*
$100,000 for 150 days on 25-man roster*
*Time on active roster includes DL time for injuries other than to right elbow.

17) Will Ohman:  $1.35 million base salary plus incentives.  Technically a minor league deal, but "Ohman can opt out of the contract if he is not promoted by April 14." (per Dylan Hernandez)
$325,000 based on games pitched
$100,000 based on games finished

2010 option for $2.2 million ($2.3 million base with 80 games finished in 2009) plus incentives:
$375,000 based on games pitched
$100,000 based on games finished

18) Xavier Paul:  His salary is $400,000, and he was recalled on May 7, with 151 days remaining in the regular season. 
$400,000 x 151/183 = $330,055

19) Doug Mientkiewicz; signed a minor league deal, and will make $550,000 if he makes the club, plus an additional $200,000 in incentives based on plate appearances.  "If Mientkiewicz isn't on the 25-man roster by April 6, the Dodgers would have to grant him his request for a release or add him the major-league roster within six hours" (per Dylan Hernandez)

20) Jason Repko:  potential for $87,500 in incentives (per Tony Jackson)
$12,500 for 100 PA
$25,000 for 150 PA
$25,000 for 250 PA
$25,000 for 350 PA

21) Cory Wade:  His salary is $402,500, and he on the opening day roster.  He was optioned to AAA after the game on June 27, so he was on the MLB roster for 84 days.
$402,500 x 84/183 = $184,754

22) Eric Stults:  His salary is $402,000, and he was recalled on April 11.  He was optioned to AAA on July 2, so he was on the MLB roster for 82 days 
$402,000 x 82/183 = $180,131

23) A.J. Ellis:  His salary is $400,000, and he was on the major league roster from May 29 through May 31, for a total of 3 days. 
$400,000 x 3/183 = $6,557

Ellis was recalled on June 15, and was optioned to AAA on July 2, so he was on the MLB roster for 17 days.
$400,000 x 17/183 = $37,158

24) Jamie Hoffmann:  His salary is $400,000, and he was recalled on May 22.  He was optioned to AAA on June 15, so he was on the MLB roster for 24 days.
$400,000 x 24/183 = $52,459

25) Blake DeWitt:  His salary is $405,000, and he was on the major league roster from opening day through April 29, for a total of 25 days.  Note:  he was sent down to AAA on April 13, but was recalled on April 17 due to the injury to Mientkiewicz.  Those four days count as major league service time because he was recalled due to an injury.
$405,000 x 25/183 = $55,328

DeWitt was recalled on June 7, and was optioned to AAA after the game on June 14, so he was on the MLB roster for 8 days.
$405,000 x 8/183 = $17,705

26) Travis Schlichting:  His salary is $400,000, and he was recalled on May 31. He was optioned before the game on June 20, so he spent 20 days on the roster. 
$400,000 x 20/183 = $43,716

27) Scott Elbert:  His salary is $400,000, and he was on the major league roster from April 18 through April 29, for a total of 12 days. 
$400,000 x 12/183 = $26,230

28) Mitch Jones:  His salary is $400,000, and his contract was purchased on June 16, and was designated for assignment on July 2, so he was on the MLB roster for 16 days.  He gets credit for the 10-day DFA period, which pushes the total service time to 26 days.
$400,000 x 26/183 = $56,831

29) Delwyn Young:  His salary is $406,000, and he was traded to Pittsburgh on April 15, meaning he was a Dodger for a total of 10 days. 
$406,000 x 10/183 = $22,186

30) Andruw Jones: From a $17.1 million 2009 salary, Andruw's release "is expected to shave $12 million from the Dodgers' 2009 payroll and cut Jones' salary next season to about $5 million" (per Bill Shaikin)

Jones signed a minor league deal plus incentives with Texas; the Dodgers receive 50% of any salary earned with the Rangers.  The contract details (per Joel Sherman of the NY Post):
$500,000 salary if he makes the team
Andruw can opt out by March 20 if not on the 40-man roster
$75,000 for 340 plate appearances
$75,000 for 380 PA
$125,000 for 420 PA
$125,000 for 460 PA
$125,000 for 500 PA
$125,000 for 540 PA
$175,000 for 580 PA
$175,000 for 620 PA
$50,000 for being an AL All-Star
$25,000 for winning ALCS MVP
$50,000 for winning World Series MVP
$200,000 for winning AL Comeback Player of the Year award
$100,000 for winning AL MVP
$25,000 for winning Gold Glove award
$25,000 for winning Sliver Slugger award

31) Shawn Estes (not listed above):  only on a minor league deal, he will make $550,000 if he makes the club.  "If he starts 30 games, he would make the maximum $1 million in bonuses." (per Bill Shaikin)

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I'm still steamed about Mota.

Urgh, just a unnecessary signing.

by Tripon on Jan 14, 2009 8:22 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just wanted to point out

we spent almost half the money we would have needed for Hoffman on Mota. I think it would have been much better to just spend a couple million more and get Hoffman.

by Brendan Scolari on Jan 15, 2009 11:49 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not to mention

the next time we don’t sign a highly-rated draft pick due to monetary concerns, even though that risk has a much better return and is likely less than the $1.95m difference between Mota and the MLB minimum!

-Eric

by Eric Stephen on Jan 15, 2009 11:54 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mota - Jokah

Mota the seventh inning man – lol – till when May 15?

by 68elcamino427 on Jan 14, 2009 10:59 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Incentive Details Now Added

Please see update to post above.

-Eric

by Eric Stephen on Jan 14, 2009 11:25 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll say this

If Mota earns all $2.65m the Dodgers are in trouble. Mostly because something will have happened to Broxton and/or Kuo.

-Eric

by Eric Stephen on Jan 15, 2009 7:05 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Question on Jones

I have been thinking about his restructuring and his very likely release. I am wondering where, if anywhere, I have this wrong. And if I have it right, I am wondering how any of this helped.

When a player is released and passes waivers, the releasing team is still on the hook for his contracted salary. If another team picks up the player they become responsible for the salary to the tune of the league minimum (which, at AJ’s seniority is at cap ($550,000 IIRC)).

For purposes of Salary Cap, a contract is averaged out, including deferred amounts paid passed the last contractual year. So Jones is still considered to be earning apx. $13M/year for 2009 and 2010.

Also, as the restructuring did not change the length of the contract, the duration of the contract remains at 2 years.

If I have all this right (and I presume I must not), then I am not seeing the utility of the restructuring, unless McCourt is facing serious cash flow (but not total cash) problems that will be resolved in a couple years.

I also don’t get how it makes Jones more attractive (on either trade or release).

I thought about all these things a while ago, but today’s release announcement brought them up in my head again. Does someone with a clear understanding of the relevant rules have an inclination to explain?

by Paul Scott on Jan 15, 2009 9:12 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I believe the restructuring is over 6 years

No details have been released other than the 2009 payment has been reduced to about 5 million, and the remaining $17.1m will be paid out over 5 or 6 years. For luxury tax purposes you are probably right; there is no real difference. But that doesn’t matter anyway since the Dodgers are nowhere near the luxury tax threshhold ($162m in 2009).

Also, there is no veteran minimum like the NBA. The minimum salary for all MLB players for 2009 is $400k.

-Eric

by Eric Stephen on Jan 15, 2009 9:25 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It would not matter for the Dodgers

But if cap consideration was not averaged, it might matter for other teams. Recall at the time it was suggested this restructuring would make him “more attractive” for potential trading partners. I still don’t see how. I included the comment merely to be complete in case an answer was that the restructuring would make him more attractive to those few teams at or over the cap.

I had in my head that BB minimum went up every year for three years. Not sure where I had that from, but if wrong, thanks. The general comment still holds, though. The Dodgers (with a release of Jones) stand at most to gain back major league minimum (which I am happy to accept at $400K) for 2 years. The restructuring and deferment of salary does not change that, iirc.

So I am still left with – what was gained by any party? (Except, of course, the “gambling” done by both parties on the value of $US over the next six-years, something I find it difficult to believe was the incentive for either).

by Paul Scott on Jan 15, 2009 9:44 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

From a Dodger cash flow standpoint

The move frees up (in theory) more cash to be able to afford someone like Manny (and a starting pitcher). They shaved $12m off the 2009 budget, of course robbing Peter (future years 2010-2014 or so) to pay Paul (2009).

Perhaps the contract was restructured in such a way that 2009 became a 6-year deal, such that the cap value for each year would be $3.683m ($21.1/6). Of course that is just speculation on my part, but it’s possible.

-Eric

by Eric Stephen on Jan 15, 2009 9:53 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ugh

you just barely beat me. :)

But what do you mean cap? There is no cap value, right?

by Brendan Scolari on Jan 15, 2009 11:56 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The "cap" is the luxury tax threshhold

For 2009, that figure was $162m. I believe it was $148m for 2008. Multiple offenders (i.e. Yankees) have to pay 40% of every dollar over the threshold to the revenue sharing fund. I believe the first-time offending Tigers had to pay a small amount as well for 2008.

-Eric

by Eric Stephen on Jan 15, 2009 11:58 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think what Paul was getting at

was how an Andruw trade, however unlikely, would affect his new team. For instance, it might push Boston or Detroit over the luxury tax threshold if they were to trade for him.

-Eric

by Eric Stephen on Jan 15, 2009 12:47 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well there is no cap

so I’m not sure what you mean there. It was simply done so we could save salary this year to spend on other guys. Its better paying him a few million a year over the next six years than having to pay it all this year and consequently not getting Manny or another good free agent.

Andruw did the restructure because the Dodgers promised him he would be released or traded by today if he agreed to it. This worked for him because he wanted to get out of LA.

Does that answer your question?

by Brendan Scolari on Jan 15, 2009 11:55 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, but how?

“Its better paying him a few million a year over the next six years than having to pay it all this year and consequently not getting Manny or another good free agent.”

I get, obviously, the last bit. The clause starting with “consequently…” But that link – the part where you move from how it is better to restructure through to the causality can only be true if the Dodgers are facing very very serious cash flow problems. As I have pointed out:

1. Cap/Tax (whatever you want to call it) has no bearing on the Dodgers, who are way under the cap either way and the restructuring does not change how the salary is accounted for that purpose.

2. Financially, the most the Dodgers could hope for in return for releasing Jones is two years worth of MLB minimum salary.

So, if the ONLY thing that mattered to the Dodgers was deferring the timing of payment of the contract, then the Dodgers cash flow issues are far far more serious than most people realize/recognize/are willing to admit.

They “saved” (not really saved, just deferred) $12M this year. $12M for an organization with a $400M+ operating budget. If that was actually necessary to have the option to pursue Manny (or other high $$ FA), then I say again, the Dodgers problems are a far greater concern than is being let on.

I don’t think that is possible, so I remain curious as what rule or set of rules might have made this move advantageous.

by Paul Scott on Jan 15, 2009 1:35 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They want Manny and a starting pitcher.

Without deferring Andruw’s salary there is no way they’d be able to do it and stay near 110 million, I think its as simple as that. There’s a budget limit and if they had to pay Andruw 17M instead of 5M they wouldn’t be able to sign the guys under the budget. I don’t think there’s much else to look into this, it definitely helps us payroll-wise.

by Brendan Scolari on Jan 15, 2009 5:32 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Again, yes but...

The Budget arguments, absent a concession that the Dodgers are having very very serious cash flow problems, make no sense. Everyone is pretending like it is a criminal act to spend, in 2009, more than $110M. Jones’ contract (absent some value in trade or the MLB minimum if someone should pick him up) is a sunk cost to the Dodgers. The restructuring did nothing to change that. It make no difference if that cost is spread over 6 years or 2 (or 1). Over the next X years, the Dodgers will earn $YM and spend (hopefully) $(Y-A)M. Jones’ contract is already a component of Y. The restructuring did not change that.

The only way the above is not correct is, again, if the Dodgers have very serious cash flow problems for 2009 AND if the cost of the restructuring was less than the cost of borrowing money. I find it hard to accept that is the case.

by Paul Scott on Jan 15, 2009 7:16 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The cost of restructuring was quite low

The Dodgers owed Jones a total of $22.1m ($17.1m this year — the final of his contract — plus $5m deferred from his signing bonus in 2010).

They parlayed that into a total of $22.2m, spread evenly over 6 years ($3.7m/year).

If you were to invest $17.1m in 2009, and $5m in 2010, the interest rate you would need to get to $22.2m in 6 years is less than 1%. Is that not less than the cost of borrowing money?

-Eric

by Eric Stephen on Jan 15, 2009 7:32 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes.

Those answers make sense. And thanks, I was not aware that Jones essentially gave the Dodgers money in the deal. It is not much money, but still, it makes perfect sense to do it. It’s too bad the Dodgers didn’t just say that instead of hiding it behind confusing and nonsensical phrases like “frees up some salary for 2009” and “makes him more attractive to trade.” Those were the things I never understood.

by Paul Scott on Jan 15, 2009 7:38 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Arbitration Figures Coming By Next Tuesday

Martin, Ethier, Broxton, and Repko are among the 111 MLB players filing for arbitration. The two sides must exchange figures by Tuesday.

A few quotes from the MLB.com article:

All players who intend to go to a hearing must exchange figures with their respective teams by Tuesday. Hearings before a panel of three arbitrators will be scheduled anytime from Feb. 1-21. In salary arbitration, the player presents the higher figure and the club the lower figure

and

Since 1974, when the arbitration system was collectively bargained, only 12 percent of the filings have gone to a full hearing

I’ll update this post next week with the arbitration filings.

-Eric

by Eric Stephen on Jan 15, 2009 8:49 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Do they file on tuesday

or might we hear the numbers before then?

by Brendan Scolari on Jan 15, 2009 10:42 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One more thing

When ToyCannon and I are updating this blog from our Ivory Tower offices in 2013, taking time out to drink fine wine from platinum goblets, I have no doubt we will be complaining, and wondering, “what, we’re still paying Andruw Jones $3.7 million this year and next? Jesus, I thought he was gone soooo long ago.”

-Eric

by Eric Stephen on Jan 15, 2009 10:21 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Very true

it would have been nice to have him completely off the books this year. But still, it probably is better this way.

by Brendan Scolari on Jan 15, 2009 10:43 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When was

the last time the Dodgers had a payroll around 80,000,000 on Jan 20th?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 21, 2009 4:51 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Manny

If he signs the deal I’m willing to bet that alot of the $25 Million will be deferred. At least $5Million but maybe more.

by meercatjohn on Feb 26, 2009 10:07 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ergh...

all of this deferred money isn’t good.

by Brendan Scolari on Feb 27, 2009 12:00 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll wait until the Manny details come in

but in and of itself the deferred money isn’t all that much (without Manny). And it doesn’t really hamper the club through at least 2011 and probably 2012 is good too.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 27, 2009 12:07 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah but still

it can’t be a good sign. And I don’t really like sacrificing the future for the present. It doesn’t usually work out in the end.

Our payroll won’t be that high even with Manny (less than 110 million hopefully), there’s no reason to defer money.

by Brendan Scolari on Feb 27, 2009 12:13 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wondering Aloud

I wonder if I call McCourt if he’ll let me defer paying for season tickets over 3 to 4 years

by dodgerfaninfl on Feb 27, 2009 7:22 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

2008 totals

This has bothered me for a while…your 2008 numbers do not add up to your total. Not that it is a big difference…just thought I’d point that out

by Coolguy_88888888 on Mar 5, 2009 10:50 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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