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Dodgers' general manager Ned Colletti was a guest on "Hot Stove" on the MLB Network today, and most of the conversation was about free agent Manny Ramirez.

There wasn't a lot of news, but I thought Colletti had a few telling quotes.  When asked if the Giants' rumored interest in Ramirez provided any extra oomph to the rivalry, Colletti said:

"We want him bad enough that I don't know if it makes much difference who else is going to get involved."

See you soon, Manny!

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"See you soon, Manny!"

And see you on the Dodger payroll for the next 4+ years!

by D4P on Jan 16, 2009 2:08 PM PST reply actions  

The worst guarantee ever

I can’t offer much given my current employment status, but I guarantee Manny’s contract will be for no more than 3 years. There is a very, very. very slight chance of an option for a 4th year, but it would most likely be a vesting option of some sort based on plate appearances or something. Which wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world.

-Eric

by Eric Stephen on Jan 16, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Well,

if Ramoras wants at least 4 years, and Ned says he’ll do whatever it takes, then that alone would imply that Ned would give up 4 years. Unless what Ned says shouldn’t be taken literally, in which case maybe he doesn’t mean he’d give Manny whatever Manny wants.

by D4P on Jan 16, 2009 2:27 PM PST reply actions  

You are no fun

Not everything is so literal.

-Eric

by Eric Stephen on Jan 16, 2009 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Except

Ned didn’t say he’ll do whatever it takes.

by Brendan Scolari on Jan 16, 2009 7:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it's bad strategery

to announce to Boras and the world that the Dodgers want Manny so badly. That’s not exactly gonna drive down the price.

by D4P on Jan 16, 2009 2:54 PM PST reply actions  

Hmmm

So far the Dodgers have not trully address their pitching, Manny like Jeff Kent wants to be on a team going somewhere ,. The Giants have tooled the pitching, but they want to replace Barry Bonds. Jeff Kent leadership skills were on the field but Manny has a pulse of what makes the young dodgers play at a higher level. It would be best for Manny to play here than San Francisco. There would too many distractions for Manny when it comes to Barry Bonds comparisons. The Dodgers need answers for their pitching.

by rxr n LA on Jan 16, 2009 4:09 PM PST reply actions  

Manny being Manny

When push comes to shove the man with a bigger bat will always win.and that said,Manny will slaughter them.this guy has no real down slide in production,yes he is a mess in the club house when he gets bored.i see him being a bigger saver to the team in giving such a push in tie games.this guy is very much feared in both leagues.Manny needs a contract of four years,well give him it and take the crap that he dishes out when his self destructive turrets hits.Reason being every year going forward Manny gives 35 hr or better and 120 rbi’s and the fear to make a pitcher think twice of throwing it over the plate.now with all that said..

who is there to protect Manny so he can hit instead of getting walked.Either,Blake,Loney i really ask who?
Cause one thing for sure of a power hitter is that you can walk him and not get hurt ,unless you have another hitter to back him up.
and for the record screw the giants!!!!

"Pitcher has a big butt"

by image21972 on Jan 16, 2009 6:21 PM PST reply actions  

I don't believe in protection, but...

for the most part walking Manny was the way to go in 2008. Manny had 35 walks with the Dodgers, including his 16 intentional. In the 35 plate appearances immediately following those walks, the Dodgers hit .242/.270/.242 with only 8 singles, 2 walks, and 6 RBI.

With RISP in these situations, the club did even worse, hitting .208/.250/.208 in 26 PA.

Of the 35 post-Manny PA, it was broken down like this:

Loney: .250/.273/.250, 3 RBI in 21 PA
Blake: .250/.300/.250, 2 RBI in 9 PA
Kent: 0-2
Ethier: 1-1 (RBI single)
Martin: 0-1
Hu: 0-1 (struckout after coming into the game for Nomar in a Dodger win I went to in SD

-Eric

by Eric Stephen on Jan 16, 2009 6:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I would rather they overspend on Manny, then take that money and buy dreck like Garland, and Luis Alaya with it.

by Tripon on Jan 16, 2009 11:36 PM PST reply actions  

Twins

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http://morehardball.blogspot.com/2009/01/twins-other-than-minnesota.html

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by GMCarson on Jan 17, 2009 3:02 AM PST reply actions  

Garland or bust

i see the Dodgers finding it in their warm hearts to offer Manny and Johnny a contract that they deserve and will produce from.Garland is going to eat innings and well Manny what else needs to be said.I think also need another pitcher that can be an ace for the club.i don’t think Sheets is the total answer,but he might become healthy enough to be good fit for the Dodgers.you have

Sheets
Garland
Billingsly
Kuroda/schmidt
Kershaw/Stults/Estes/Mcdonald
looks to be good options.maybe?if need be get rid of Schmidt clear salary to better offer the youth pitchers for arbitration next offseason.

"Pitcher has a big butt"

by image21972 on Jan 18, 2009 11:54 AM PST reply actions  

Huge Sheets Fan

I hope like hell the club signs Sheets, but I don’t think the budget will allow for more than one starter.

Right now it looks like:

Billingsley
New Starter (Garland, Wolf, Pettitte?)
Kuroda
Kershaw
McDonald/Stults/Schmidt/Troncoso

-Eric

by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I would rather see

Troncoso and McDonald in the same rotation before signing Garland.

by Tripon on Jan 18, 2009 7:31 PM PST reply actions  

The problem with that is...

You’d have 3 pitchers in Kershaw, Troncoso & McDonald that will all struggle to reach the 180 IP mark. And Stults would be the #6 man. Depth is certainly a concern, and while all our current staff might be ideal, it is an absolute 100% known fact that management will sign another starter.

I would rather have Sheets or Pettitte, but of the remaining options Garland is probably the best combo of performance and cost. Sort of a necessary evil, if you will.

-Eric

by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2009 9:01 PM PST up reply actions  

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2012 Dodgers Payroll

Italics denote estimates
Pos No Player 2012 Salary
C 17 Ellis $500,000 team control
1B 7 Loney $6,375,000
2B 14 Ellis $2,500,000
3B 5 Uribe $8,000,000
SS 9 Gordon $485,000 team control
LF 21 Rivera $4,000,000
CF 27 Kemp $10,000,000
RF 16 Ethier $10,950,000

IF/OF 6 Hairston $2,250,000
OF 10 Gwynn $850,000
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IF 12 Sellers $485,000 team control

SP 22 Kershaw $6,000,000
SP 58 Billingsley $9,000,000
SP 29 Lilly $12,000,000
SP 37 Capuano $3,000,000
SP 44
Harang $3,000,000

CL 54 Guerra $485,000 team control
RHP 74
Jansen $500,000 team control
RHP 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
RHP Coffey $1,000,000
RHP 66 MacDougal $650,000
LHP 57 Elbert $485,000 team control
RHP 36
Hawksworth $500,000 team control

TJ 41 De La Rosa $485,000 team control



Manny $8,087,432 deferred


Andruw $3,375,000 deferred


Pierre $3,050,000 deferred
Furcal $3,000,000 deferred
Kuroda $2,000,000 deferred
Garland $1,500,000 option buyout
Blake $1,250,000 option buyout

Totals
$112,162,432

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Current 40-man roster count: 40
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61 Alberto Castillo lhp
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60 Matt Chico lhp
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35 John Grabow lhp
33
59 Angel Guzman rhp
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47 Wil Ledezma lhp
31
72 Shane Lindsay rhp
27
62 Fernando Nieve rhp 29
73 Scott Rice lhp 30
70 Will Savage rhp
27
71 Ryan Tucker rhp
25

30 Josh Bard c 34
82 Griff Erickson c 24
81 Matt Wallachc 26
67 Jeff Baisley 3b/1b 29
62 Luis Cruz ss/2b 28
33 Josh Fields 3b 29
64 Lance Zawadzki if 27
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