The first three spots in our batting order are now filled. Mike Piazza was a runaway winner for the coveted third spot in our all-time batting order. Thanks to your votes, here is the lineup you've chosen so far:
All-Time LA Dodger Lineup |
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| No | Player | Pos |
| 30 | Maury Wills |
SS |
| 19 | Jim Gilliam | 2B/3B |
| 31 | Mike Piazza | C |
Who will be our cleanup hitter? Catchers are disqualified, and one of 2B or 3B will be disqualified depending on who we choose to take Jim Gilliam's other position.
Here are the stats for the primary cleanup hitters in Los Angeles Dodger history. Their overall stats as a Dodger are listed, along with the games started and years they were the primary cleanup hitter for the Dodgers:
| Pos | Player | Years | Cleanup GS | PA | 2B | HR | Runs | RBI | Slash Stats | OPS+ |
| 1B | Steve Garvey |
74-76,79-81 | 819 | 7027 | 333 | 211 | 852 | 992 | .301/.337/.459 | 122 |
| 1B | Eric Karros |
92-93,95-99 | 775 | 6624 | 302 | 270 | 752 | 976 | .268/.325/.457 | 109 |
| 3B/OF | Pedro Guerrero |
1982-1985 | 581 | 4089 | 169 | 171 | 561 | 585 | .309/.381/.512 | 149 |
| 3B | Ron Cey |
1977-1978 | 444 | 6108 | 223 | 228 | 715 | 842 | .264/.359/.445 | 125 |
| LF | Tommy Davis |
1962-1964 | 399 | 3216 | 109 | 86 | 392 | 465 | .304/.338/.441 | 117 |
| 1B | Eddie Murray |
1989-1991 | 382 | 1983 | 74 | 65 | 231 | 282 | .278/.359/.439 | 125 |
| 2B | Jeff Kent |
2005,07-08 | 375 | 2146 | 122 | 75 | 281 | 311 | .291/.367/.479 | 118 |
| RF | Mike Marshall |
1984,86-88 | 342 | 3546 | 155 | 137 | 395 | 484 | .271/.325/.449 | 117 |
| 1B/RF | Ron Fairly |
1965-1966 | 320 | 4529 | 168 | 90 | 491 | 541 | .260/.347/.385 | 111 |
| 1B | Wes Parker |
1970 | 221 | 4835 | 194 | 64 | 548 | 532 | .267/.351/.375 | 111 |
This shouldn't be a surprise, but the cleanup spot is relatively loaded. There are a couple of Hall of Famers (Murray and Kent) who spent a brief part of their career as Dodgers. The top three LA Dodgers in HR and the top two in RBI are also on this list. Tommy Davis still holds the LA Dodger record for hits and RBI in a season, and probably should have won MVP over teammate Maury Wills in 1962. General Soreness, Ron Fairly, and cyclist Wes Parker round out the list of top cleanup men, wondering if they will garner any votes. Pedro Guerrero and Ron Fairly both played a large portion of their games at multiple positions, so they provide potential flexibility for the lineup going forward.
Among these cleanup candidates, Garvey, Karros, Mike Marshall, and Ron Fairly also qualify at the #5 spot in the order, and Cey qualifies at #5 and #6.
Eric's Pick
Eddie Murray is my favorite player ever, so it's hard for me not to pick him. However, he was only a Dodger for three seasons (1997 never happened!) and if I was going to pick a first baseman I'd go with the longevity of Steve Garvey. A decade of 122 OPS+ outweighs three seasons of 125 OPS+. However, I have to go with Pedro Guerrero in the cleanup spot. For as great as Manny Ramirez was in his two months as a Dodger in 2008, Guerrero was even better in a two-month stretch in 1985:
| Player | Months | G | PA | HR | R | RBI | Slash Stats | OPS+ |
| Guerrero | Jun/Jul 1985 | 45 | 190 | 19 | 52 | 39 | .391/.489/.833 | 269 |
| Ramirez | Aug/Sep 2008 | 53 | 229 | 17 | 36 | 53 | .396/.489/.743 | 219 |
Guerrero followed up his white-hot 15-HR June by simply hitting .460/.563/.794 the next month, leading the Dodgers from five games behind the Padres on May 31 to five games up on July 31. Manny may have had his issues in Boston, such as getting into an altercation with a Red Sox employee, but Guerrero had a similar fiery streak as well. From Jim Kaplan in a 1984 Sports Illustrated article:
When he learned the L.A. papers had raked him over the coals, Guerrero threatened 118-pound L.A. Herald Examiner reporter Ken (Mouse) Gurnick, saying, "I'm going to kick your [bleeping] ass." Instead, Guerrero kicked up his heels: He went 2 for 4, stole a base and scored twice in Hershiser's win.
In my mind, the four greatest hitters in LA Dodger history are Mike Piazza, Pedro Guerrero, Reggie Smith, and Gary Sheffield. My lineup has the two of those that played the longest as Dodgers, so I'm a happy man.
Phil's Pick
I'm also taking Pedro as he's my 2nd favorite Dodger behind Piazza so it is only fitting that the lineup have Piazza / Pedro back to back. Back in 1981 he broke the Yankee's back but I never expected him to become the force he became. Most people don't think of Pedro as that great, but he was one of best hitter of the 80's. He also played over 100 games in CF so if we have to get creative we have that option. Of all the clean up options he's the only one with a slug% higher then .500. I was a little surprised that Shaw Green was not on the list, I thought he qualified. He would have been my 2nd pick. Green was the best LHH in LA Dodger History and this team looks a little light without Sheffield, Smith, or Green. I think when we are done we could put together a 2nd team that would be better then the team we are creating.
Who is your pick?
Poll
Who is the best cleanup hitter in LA Dodger history?
1B - Steve Garvey (36 votes)
1B - Eric Karros (4 votes)
3B/OF - Pedro Guerrero (98 votes)
3B - Ron Cey (10 votes)
LF - Tommy Davis (4 votes)
1B - Eddie Murray (2 votes)
2B - Jeff Kent (4 votes)
RF - Mike Marshall (0 votes)
1B/RF - Ron Fairly (0 votes)
1B - Wes Parker (0 votes)
Other (write your selectioin in the comments) (1 vote)
159 total votes


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