Day Baseball At Dodger Stadium
by Eric Stephen on Oct 16, 2009 9:55 AM PDT
in Dodgers Game Previews
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PrintI'm torn between how I want to remember last night's game. The loss was painful, sure, so ultimately the negatives will outweigh the positives, but I can't help but think there were some good things that came out of last night's game too:
- Manny Ramirez struck out in his first two at-bats, but battled through 15 pitches in doing so. He later came through with a home run to get the Dodgers back in the game right after the horrible top of the fifth.
- The Dodgers got to Cole Hamels, for once. After never pitching less than seven innings nor ever giving up more than two runs to the Dodgers, Hamels allowed four runs in 5.1 innings.
- The Dodgers were only three for 14 with runners in scoring position, but I find it very hard to take issue with an offense that scored six runs on 14 hits.
- James Loney had three hits, including a rare Dodger Stadium home run, and is now hitting .380/.446/.560 with 12 runs batted in in 13 playoff games in his career
For today, the Dodgers have to continue what they're doing on offense and, I don't know, maybe give up one or two fewer three-run jacks.
Both teams have six capable starting pitchers at their disposal. What are the odds that Vicente Padilla and Pedro Martinez would be pitching in Game 2 of the NLCS? 1,000 to one? Would it be off the board?
Martinez had flashes of brilliance for the Phillies in August and September, but ever since throwing 119 and 130 pitches in back-to-back starts, he hasn't been the same pitcher. In his last two regular season starts, Pedro allowed six runs on 13 hits in just seven innings, while striking out only three batters. He hasn't pitched since September 30, but a similarly long layoff didn't hinder Chan Ho Park last night, who blew Matt Kemp away with a 96-mph fastball in the seventh inning.
The Dodgers are hoping Vicente Padilla continues his groove. In his last 14 innings, he has allowed one run on eight hits and two walks while striking out 17. Since joining the Dodgers, Padilla has thrown 46.1 innings, including the playoffs, and has a 2.72 ERA and 3.02 FIP.
Call me crazy, but I think the Dodgers today get what they have been longing for for quite a long time: a win in a playoff game started by Pedro Martinez at Dodger Stadium.
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Game Time: 1:07pm
TV: TBS (Chip "Fisted" Caray, Ron Darling, Buck Martinez)
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Chip "Fisted" Caray
Also made me laugh. Eric, you’re on fire!
im really worried about padila tonight
he will be facing 5 of 6 leftys to start the game…
and in his career… leftys have hit him over 300 including .302 this season…
fangraphs actually wrote an article about starting padilla against the phillies may not be very smart
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/padilla-vs-goliath
they are saying its padila vs goliath… wow
That picture at the top screams Nightstalker!!!
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 16, 2009 10:08 AM PDT reply actions
Positivity!!!
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 16, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Game thread notice
I’m going to the game today, but there will be a game chat thread at 12:45, followed by continuation chat threads on the hour (2pm, 3pm, and 4pm). Look for them on the front page.
Lucky Me
My day off falls on a Dodger playoff day game. Time to head out and do all the errands for the day and go grab some lunch then plop down on the couch for a Dodger win.
vr, Xei
I’m tired of getting owned by the Phillies, this team needs to grow a pair and show some fight. Hopefully Padilla is the right guy to lead the way.
They had plenty of fight last night
they just didn’t have a knock out blow. The Phillies are a hell of a team, knocking out Hamels was a big deal, this is a game we normally win, when was the last time our bullpen gave up a three run jack?
by meercatjohn on Oct 16, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Fangraphs put another article out on vicente padilla`
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/padillas-fastballs/
saying his 4 and 2 seamers are good vs right handers but they are HORRIBLE against leftys especially the 2 seamer to leftys
To LHBs the orientation of his two-seam would be opposite up-and-down and away-and-up, where hitters do better.
I thought the conventional wisdom is lefties like hitting pitches lower in the zone ( I know that’s true for Ethier.)
by Michael White on Oct 16, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Billingsley is going to have to big today for the Dodgers to win
Sherrill let the bullpen down last night, it can’t happen two games in a row because we are going to need our bullpen today.
The crowd last night was very impressive, I was exhausted by the end of the game. All the work the McCourts did last year about the parking seems to have been thrown out the window.
Manny had the one big hit, but given how many runners he left on base, he could have had so many more. How about Laser Loney? What a bullet to RF against a tough LHP. Andre continues to deliver at home against types of pitchers.
Belliard continues to hold up his end.
Belisario was as good as we advertised him. So was Kuo. So was Broxton. One key member wasn’t.
Ryan Howard had a very impressive game. That key double against Kershaw was the most troubling hit of the game until Ibanez went deep.
He very well could be. Padilla could be gone by the 3rd inning.
by silverwidow on Oct 16, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
If your concerns about Padilla hold up
then I would expect we see Billingsley pitch.
It’s not like they’ll let Elbert throw 3-4 innings.
by Michael White on Oct 16, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I won't
Kershaw had one last batter to face and that was Howard. I don’t think Torre made any wrong moves yesterday. Kershaw and Sherrill just didn’t execute.
by meercatjohn on Oct 16, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
That was my only real complaint about Torre yesterday
Elbert is there and has pitched well for the club. Kershaw looks like he’s loosing it. Why the quick hook with Wolf and not Kershaw?
Otherwise, I though Torre managed a fine game.
by Michael White on Oct 16, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Wolf was battling all game
He had the bases loaded and no one out in the first inning.
I’ll grant you that Elbert was probably ready for Utley and/or Howard but up until that point, it wasn’t as if the Dodgers had the pen going like they did for Wolf.
While they may look like simiar situations, they were not similar at all.
by bhsportsguy on Oct 16, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Good point
I listened to the first few innings of yesterday’s game on the radio as opposed to the Wolf game on TV. So I don’t appreciate how good Kershaw looked the first few innings.
by Michael White on Oct 16, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
even though he was good in the first few innings giving up only 1 hit
he gave up 3 fly balls deeep into the warning track which where all caught
he only got 2 swings and misses the whole game too…
by matthewmafa on Oct 16, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
dodger lineup??
is belliard starting vs a right handed pitcher even though o dog has hit for the cycle vs pedro in 25 career at bats
O-Dog is a defensive replacement in the playoffs only.
by silverwidow on Oct 16, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
wow poor o dog
he probably wont be offered arb ethier now..
by matthewmafa on Oct 16, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
he's had quite a few opportunities
how many players have had more at bats then Manny in postseason play? Jeter?
by meercatjohn on Oct 16, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
plus manny has had an advantage all along
with those steroids…
i now find it pretty unimpressive
by matthewmafa on Oct 16, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Cracks me up when they show
Manny leading everyone in post season home runs and Mickey Mantle is still on the list. Not bad for guy who only got to play in the World Series. I guess he would have had 100 if they had division/ALCS play during his time. Also not bad for a guy who didn’t see the series after 1964, but then he had plenty of chances early on.
by meercatjohn on Oct 16, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Is is just me
or does it seem like Eric searches for the creepiest pictures of Padilla to post?
Is there any other pictures that Padilla doesn’t look that way?
by PHAT JULIO on Oct 16, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
There’s a reason we call him the Nightstalker.
Actually if he wins today he will be the Daystalker.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 16, 2009 12:08 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Playoff games and Opening Day
Are the times when you have more people coming by themselves and a number of people who never go to Dodger Stadium.
When they have to open the auxilary parking lot, its guaranteed to be a long night to get out.
Though, I will say that the NLDS was fairly painless, last night though, I think the 5:00 start forced just added 15-20% more cars than normal.
For my normal exit
last year they had added multiple police for the Scott road exit to handle traffic flow from the Stadium down to Glendale Blvd. They cut it out except for sell out nights. This year they dropped the concept. None last night because they stopped letting you exit Scott Road.
Plus in my lot they redrew the parking near the exit, adding parking spots where a lane used to be, so instead of two lanes exiting the lot, they now have one.
by meercatjohn on Oct 16, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
dont worry Padilla has been great for us and he will continue let’s go Doyers
by Dodgermanramon on Oct 16, 2009 11:59 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Same starting 8, but Kemp is back to 2nd
by Eric Stephen on Oct 16, 2009 12:06 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
we need a Beard resurgence! :)
I'm nobody's fool, least of all yours
by BoulderDodger on Oct 16, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Woot
Ethier in the cleanup
I'm nobody's fool, least of all yours
by BoulderDodger on Oct 16, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
damn
he is a monster batting in front of manny..
by matthewmafa on Oct 16, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
you're right about that
Hopefully this just means Kemp gets a lot of fastballs to hit today
I'm nobody's fool, least of all yours
by BoulderDodger on Oct 16, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
wait up
kemp is batting second ethier 3rd and manny 4th…
by matthewmafa on Oct 16, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah
that makes a hell of a lot more sense.
I'm nobody's fool, least of all yours
by BoulderDodger on Oct 16, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Complete with a Vicente Padilla look-alike contest.
Which would be in the running for creepiest event ever.
wow joe
watch,,, just cause joe switched blake and loney.. loney will go 0 for 4 and blake will go 2 for 4…
it always happens
by matthewmafa on Oct 16, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Aaron miller made his AFL debut yesterday!!!!
he went 2.1 innings 0 hits 0 runs 1 walk 1 K
not bad for a guy who has never pitched full time and just got drafted this year
Aaron Miller = stud lefty. If he demolishes AA next year, we might see him in the bigs by September.
by silverwidow on Oct 16, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Someday
A prospect will be up within 2 years of being drafted.
Kershaw was the closest but even he had one full year in the minors.
by bhsportsguy on Oct 16, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
gameday had him 88-91
topping out at 92 once which wasnt near the zone..
and it said he threw a curve at 81… but it was his slider…
and threw 1 changeup
by matthewmafa on Oct 16, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
scratch the 88 to 91
it was 88 to 92
in his first inning of work he was 92 after 92
but then in the second and 3rd inning he was down to 88 to 91
and it even said he threw 1 cutter and the change looked more like a curve then a change
by matthewmafa on Oct 16, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Andrew Lambo also had a Great Game!!
3 for 5 with a Homer a Double and 1 walk and 0 Ks 4 RBIs (grand Slam homerun)
Lambo projects as a 285-290 guy with lots of doubles and 15-20 HR power. Sound familiar?
by silverwidow on Oct 16, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
he'll be more valuable then james loneey tho
cause he can play outfield and not first base… where more power is expected
by matthewmafa on Oct 16, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
er no you dont
name the best 5 offensive players in the league…
allll of them are first basemen..
howard pujols gonzalez fielder texiera
all first basemen..
by matthewmafa on Oct 16, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
you said you should expect left field and right field
to have the same power as your first basemen….
WHICH is DEAD WRONG
by matthewmafa on Oct 16, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
yes loney is
a bottom 5 first basemen in the MLB
have you not figured that out yet
by matthewmafa on Oct 16, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
you are very annoying
shut up you know what i mean and you know i am right and you have now made this a joke
by matthewmafa on Oct 16, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Back off dude
are you trying to piss everyone off?
by Michael White on Oct 16, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
seriously
is tripon trying to piss everyone off
by matthewmafa on Oct 16, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
More like I took issue that only 1B was a power position.
So are left fielders, so are right fielders, etc.
A few years ago
the list would have been Bonds, Ramirez and A-Rod.
Both LF and 1B are power positions.
by Michael White on Oct 16, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Mat is off on this one
Other then some elite 1st baseman they have fallen in offensive contributions if you compare them from years past.
by meercatjohn on Oct 16, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
You stated that the best offensive players in baseball are 1st baseman
I disagree, later when I’m not working I’ll easily disprove your theory.
by meercatjohn on Oct 16, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
According to VORP
you’d be wrong
Pujols
Mauer
H Ramirez
Jeter
Fielder
Braun
Sandoval
Utley
Zobrist
Unless of course you are just talking about home runs, but home runs are hardly a guide to best offensive players.
by meercatjohn on Oct 16, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Isn't VORP giving more credit
to generating power from a non-power position? Hence Jeter’s inclusion.
by Michael White on Oct 16, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
instead of bringing up stupid VORP
how about you bring up the league average BA/OBP/SLUGGING/OPS for left fielders and rightfielders the last 3 years and for first basemen
cause we are not talking about 2nd basemen and shortstops and 3rd basemen
by matthewmafa on Oct 16, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Go ahead and do that
Phil posted his argument based on facts. If you want to challenge them by looking at the slash stats, look it up yourself.
by Michael White on Oct 16, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
alright then
look at the convo before you bring in shortstops and 2nd base
this is LEFT FIELD ANd right field vs FIRST BASE
by matthewmafa on Oct 16, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Eric gave me a warning lol
dont know wtf that was all about
Your posts in the post-game thread were rediculous
and not even remotely funny
by Michael White on Oct 16, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
there just some stupid pictures lol
dont be so uptight man jeez
by desecrator09 on Oct 16, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
“there just some stupid pictures”
exactly, if we want stupid pictures we will go to 4chan on our own, no need to bring that cesspool here.
sorry if i offended you
didnt think it was that big of a deal but whatever
by desecrator09 on Oct 16, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
well then just dont read my comments or pictures
pretty simple
by desecrator09 on Oct 16, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
you you’re telling me to ignore an 800×600 picture on a board that is probably about 1000-1200 pixels wide? Good call. If there was an ignore option I would use it, but alas there is not. So holding people accountable for what they post is our only recourse.
all im sayin
is i dont know how a stupid internet pic can annoy you that fucking much. Jesus man come on, its a fucking chat blog on the internet.
by desecrator09 on Oct 16, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
obviously it is a chat blog with standards. Like I said, I go to 4 chan to look at stuff similar to what you posted. I’m not saying the content irritated me either. 1 picture i would have been fine with, it was the relentless repetition
that shaqfor3 dude was lovin them haha
by desecrator09 on Oct 16, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Clearly Eric wasn't
his blog, his rules
by Michael White on Oct 16, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
yup
too bad everybody on here is so uptight all the time cept for a few
by desecrator09 on Oct 16, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
i can name alot of people on here
who say stupid shit over and over.
by desecrator09 on Oct 16, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
they did the same shit i did yesterday
so thats BS
by desecrator09 on Oct 16, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
i'll try
if we win today I’ll forget all about this
by desecrator09 on Oct 16, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
if it annoyed you that fuckin much
then you need to loosen up.
by desecrator09 on Oct 16, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
And you need to see that getting warned is rather mild for the annoying stuff that was posted.
Because seriously, you’re bitching about this?
lol your the one who's bitching alot about it
bitching about how annoying it was when its not that big of a deal. Okay I’m done with this
by desecrator09 on Oct 16, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I am telling you why you got warned and other people didn't.
If you can’t see that, then I cannot help you.
chill out man
Dodger baseball is comin up
by desecrator09 on Oct 16, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
your more bad about
my stupid pics than i am about being warned
by desecrator09 on Oct 16, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
You wanted clarification, I have you clarification. Apparently, its unsatisfactory. If it really is an issue for you, you should e-mail Eric about it. His e-mail is on the bottom of the page.
lol your still on this issue
i said I’m done with it man Jeeze
by desecrator09 on Oct 16, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
this boards policies are pretty lax dude, just look at Weisman’s ToS for comparison. if you are looking for a board that had more lax standards or moderation, I suggest one with larger subscription numbers.
i know i already got banned from that fucker lol
for sayin that J-Mac is a scrub LOL
by desecrator09 on Oct 16, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh hey
Last night, Gibbys anniversary and the Phillies get a big HR
Tonight, Clark’s anniversary and the Dodgers get a big HR?
I see a correlation
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