Dodgers Take Show On The Road For Game 3
by Eric Stephen on Oct 18, 2009 10:48 AM PDT
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After splitting two games at Dodger Stadium, the Dodgers and Phillies resume the NLCS tonight in the city of brotherly love tonight for Game 3.
Hiroki Kuroda makes his return from a bulging disk in his neck (try saying that three times fast -- it's hard; just ask Steve Levy), pitching against a team he has had great success against. Kuroda has allowed four runs in four career starts against the Phillies:
| Date | Result | IP | H | R | ER | BB | K | ERA | WHIP |
| 8/14/08 | LA 3-1 | 7.0 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 7 | 1.29 | 0.286 |
| 8/24/08 | Phi 5-2 | 6.0 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 5 | 1.50 | 0.667 |
| NLCS Gm 3 | LA 7-2 | 6.0 | 5 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 3.00 | 1.000 |
| 6/6/09 | LA 3-2 | 6.0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 5 | 0.00 | 0.833 |
| Totals | LA 3-1 | 25.0 | 11 | 4 | 4 | 6 | 20 | 1.44 | 0.680 |
Then again, Kuroda hasn't pitched since September 28. The long layoff seemed to work for Pedro Martinez though. If Kuroda is to win Game 3 of the NLCS for the second year in a row, he will rely on his great control, among other things. Kuroda on the season walked just 1.84 batters per nine innings, 10th best in MLB for pitchers with 100 innings or more. However, Cliff Lee was fourth on that list, walking 1.67 per nine.
Lee, acquired at the trade deadline by the Phillies, has been wonderful since joining the National League (and he was no slouch in the American League, either). In 96 innings as a Phillie, including the playoffs, Lee has a 3.00 ERA, a 2.75 FIP, has walked 1.22 batters per nine innings, and struck out 7.88 per nine. In six starts at Citizens Bank Park, Lee has allowed zero or one run four times.
For those worried about Chad Billingsley's future prospects, look no further than Cliff Lee. As Canuck Dodger has pointed out, Lee was sent to the minors at age 28 in 2007, and was left off the Indians' postseason roster that year. All he proceeded to do was win the AL Cy Young award in 2008, and had another stellar season this year. That said, it wouldn't bother me if Lee had some trouble in the sixth inning tonight.
Andre Ethier, who is hitting .450/.522/1.000 this postseason, has an RBI in four straight postseason games. Only Manny Ramirez, who had a run batted in every game in last year's NLCS, has had a longer streak in Dodger playoff history. Bill Russell also had a streak of four straight playoff games with an RBI, in 1981.
From the useless trivia department, the Dodgers have lost their last four NLCS games three on the road (1981, 1983, 1985, and 1988). Their only such win was in Game 3 of the 1977 NLCS in Philadelphia -- the Vic Davalillo / Davey Lopes game, when the Dodgers scored three in the ninth to win 6-5.
Dodger assistant general manager Kim Ng interviewed yesterday with the Padres for their vacant general manager position.
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Game Time: 5:07pm
TV: TBS (Chip Caray, Ron Darling, Buck Martinez)
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42 Degrees and Rain
at game time.
Tell me again why the W.S. will extend into November again? Oh ya, money. To hell with the integrity of the game. Atleast it’s not the BCS.
vr, Xei
by Xeifrank on Oct 18, 2009 11:02 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not much rain
It says mostly cloudy from 8-10 and then “light drizzle”.
Good enough for me.
by PHAT JULIO on Oct 18, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll be around a little more (I think) during the game thread today, but I have scheduled new game threads to publish on the hour again (6pm, 7pm, and 8pm).
by Eric Stephen on Oct 18, 2009 11:05 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That’s so cool that you can automate the new game threads. Usually it takes people 10 or 15 minutes to realize the new thread is up. Perhaps you could auto pump a few jigi watts of electricity into everyone’s chair when the new threads are up. :)
Go Dodgers!
vr, Xei
by Xeifrank on Oct 18, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would’ve posted reminders in the comments on the hour Friday but I was having a hard time getting consistent internet access on my phone. Tonight I’ll be able to check from the comfort of a home internet access :)
by Eric Stephen on Oct 18, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do not like the idea of a cold sloppy game in Philly
but maybe that improves our chances with Cliff battling the Elements
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
by Ollie on Oct 18, 2009 11:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
some numbers to consider again
vs Cliff Lee
manny : .429/.571/1.071 6 for 14 6 RBIs, 2 HR, 6 BB, 3K
odog: .400/.500/1.400 2 for 5 RBI, HR, BB, K
furcal: .667/.667/1.667 2 for 3 RBI, HR
Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....
by shaqfor3 on Oct 18, 2009 11:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
can’t say that I didn’t see this coming :D
by K3vo on Oct 18, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lets smash these fools tonight!!
Hopefully Kuroda’s arm is nice and fresh for tonight. I wouldnt be surprised if he hits 97 on the gun hehe.
by desecrator09 on Oct 18, 2009 11:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hiroki Kuroda vs Phillies Offense
Rollins 0 for 6 1 K
Victorino 0 for 5 0 Ks 1 Walk
Utley 2 for 7 1 double 2 walks 1 K
Howard 0 for 8 4 Ks
Werth 2 for 7 1 Double 4 Ks
Ibanez 0 for 2 1 K
Feliz 1 for 2 0 XBH 0 Ks
Ruiz: 1 for 4 0 XBH 0 Ks
The only real problem in this lineup is Utley for Kuroda
I cant WAIT!!!!!!
by matthewmafa on Oct 18, 2009 11:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Also
Post season stats from last year are not included
by matthewmafa on Oct 18, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Game 3 Dodgers lineup
He left Rafael Furcal first and Russell Martin eighth, but moved everybody else around. Ronnie Belliard moved from seventh to second; Andre Ethier, Manny Ramirez and Matt Kemp moved down one slot each from second, third and fourth to third, fourth and fifth; and he moved James Loney ahead of Casey Blake, the pair now sixth and seventh.
http://kengurnick.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/10/torre_shuffles_batting_order.html
So its’
Furcal
Belliard
Ethier
Manny
Kemp
Loney
Blake
Martin
Pitcher
by Tripon on Oct 18, 2009 1:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
listening to charlie manuel in this press conference is pretty unbearable
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
by Ollie on Oct 18, 2009 1:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
nothing at all really
just alot of “you know uh, you know duh-duh doobie, he a good pitchin coach he uh communicate good”
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
by Ollie on Oct 18, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Un-related sports news
BCS fails yet again.
by PHAT JULIO on Oct 18, 2009 2:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Stupid computer
NO, BRAD LIDGE HAS NOT RETURNED TO FORM!!!! I DON'T KNOW HOW THE HELL YOU CAN DEDUCE THAT BASED ON TWO OUTINGS!!!!
by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Oct 18, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Iowa above USC
is pretty funny.
Surprised Florida is ahead of Alabama…
by mwhite06 on Oct 18, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boise St. and number 4
If that doesn’t strike a nerve, I don’t know what does.
by PHAT JULIO on Oct 18, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That doesn't really strike a nerve with me
having attended a mid-major school (for basketball; no football program) I’ve always had a soft spot for mid-major schools.
But once you start having the mid-majors playing in the Rose Bowl (starting in a few years I think) I’m going to be more pissed off about it.
by mwhite06 on Oct 18, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Cincy Bears are a mid major program. :)
by Tripon on Oct 18, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dont hate on the Big East
:)
by Rutgers Dodger fan on Oct 18, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Rutgers actually.
But the Big East picked the wrong teams to join its conference when the ACC poached the 4 most traditionally powered teams.
by Tripon on Oct 18, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
Rutgers is gonna make the jump to the Big 10 in the next 5 years…rumblings are already starting here
VT, BC and the U all left and left the football conference crippled. Although all take this basketball conference over any other every year
by Rutgers Dodger fan on Oct 18, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
but the BE will be down this year
Pitt, Uconn, Lville all lost too much
by Rutgers Dodger fan on Oct 18, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't see Rutgers jumping to the Big Ten
the Big Ten want’s a 12th team but their preference is a big 1) Notre Dame and after that Syracuse. Rutgers is not natural rivals with any other team in the Big Ten and the conference still fancies themselves as a midwest conference (Penn State’s addition notwithstanding.)
by mwhite06 on Oct 18, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ND gets too much freedom/money to leave the independent status
THe Big 10 does do the midwest thing but rumors are they want to get into the NY market. Cuse makes sense but people question whether they will leave bc BE basketball> B10 bball…
In my opinion, RU goin to the Big 10 would be a mistake on RUs part. To spend the money to travel all of the non revenue sports to the midwest every week would not cover the extra money from fball/bball
Also, if RU cant be successful in the BE against the Pitts and Cincis of the world, how the hell are we gonna compete with OSU, PSU and Mich
by Rutgers Dodger fan on Oct 18, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree about ND
but the Big Ten keeps their finger’s crossed. Because once they admit Syracuse or Rutgers, it’s over. Their ND dreams are over.
by mwhite06 on Oct 18, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They picked teams for basketball purposes
not football. What teams would you have suggested joining the Big East?
I think Cincy is solid. UConn and USF are not bad. Cincy beat OSU in Corvallis (ask USC fans if that is an accomplishment.)
by mwhite06 on Oct 18, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, they didn't need to expand to 12 football teams.
I would have gotten small and just pick the better football programs at the time, like Louisville, and play a round robin schedule like the Pac-10 does.
by Tripon on Oct 18, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Big East has 8 teams in football
by mwhite06 on Oct 18, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes 8
if we still consider Louisville and Syracuse as football teams haha
by Rutgers Dodger fan on Oct 18, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh well then!
I don’t know why Miami or VaTech didn’t stay then.
by Tripon on Oct 18, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Miami and Virginia Tech made sense (IMO)
both in-state rivals (Florida State and Virginia) are in the ACC and the ACC is the better football conference anyway.
Boston College made no sense to me.
by mwhite06 on Oct 18, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel like all the Northeast conferences should be re done
like how is Pitt in the BE and PSU in the Big 10…then you look at USF and there is no reason for them to be in the BE and not the SEC or ACC…
by Rutgers Dodger fan on Oct 18, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
SEC won't take another team ever
they are the old guard and I doubt they even like that they admitted South Carolina and Arkansas. If anything, Georgia Tech would re-join the SEC, but that’s it (IMO.)
Bring back the Southwest Conference!!
by mwhite06 on Oct 18, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
The BE commish is a Providence guy and Prov does not have a football team so all he did was push basketball.
Cinci is legit. I saw them first hand stomp the crap outta RU (granted we are not that good this year).
USF is decent but every year they fall off the mark (I see no reason they wont this year). UConn is decent, shame about their corner. Pitt is the most talented team in the conf but they ahve terrible coaching
by Rutgers Dodger fan on Oct 18, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Iowa over USC? USC 7th while it’s 4th in the other polls? What a load of crap.
by Ivdown on Oct 18, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can understand that
Boise at 4 I can’t. But If Cincy,Iowa, and USC win all their games, they can easily jump over Boise because of the strength of their schedules.
by PHAT JULIO on Oct 18, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But with that...
What exactly is Boise supposed to do? It’s not like they can join the Pac-10. You can only beat the teams on your schedule.
by mwhite06 on Oct 18, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which is why the BCS is crap
Look what happen to Utah last year… Boise would probably play in the Tostito’s bowl this year.
by PHAT JULIO on Oct 18, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't follow
so now the BCS is crap because Utah got screwed last year, yet you are complaining at how high Boise State is ranked?
by mwhite06 on Oct 18, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
eh?
Boise St.‘s schedule isn’t as tough as Cincy’s or Iowa’s, out of those 3 undefeated teams, I would say Iowa is first, Cincy second, and Boise third, I’m complaining that Boise is ranked that high. For the Utah point, Utah was the only other team that was undefeated last year and they had a fair argument that they should have played in national championship game. Utah’s conference, MWC, is much better than boise st.’s conference, which is the WAC.
by PHAT JULIO on Oct 18, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I ask again
what exactly is Boise State supposed to do?
by mwhite06 on Oct 18, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I cant knock Boise, they are trying to have outta conference schedule but NOONE wants to travel to Boise and play on the turf. They are too good of a program to accept only road games with high majors.
Oregon agreed to play on the turf and we all saw how well that went for them
by Rutgers Dodger fan on Oct 18, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well that's a silly suggestion
Nobody is offering.
by mwhite06 on Oct 18, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boise St. would dominate the Big 10. :)
But the Big 10 is still hoping ND will join.
by Tripon on Oct 18, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Until ND joins a conference
I will never take them as a serious competitor. Until then, their fans can enjoy beating Navy.
NO, BRAD LIDGE HAS NOT RETURNED TO FORM!!!! I DON'T KNOW HOW THE HELL YOU CAN DEDUCE THAT BASED ON TWO OUTINGS!!!!
by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Oct 18, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big Ten has a rule
that the school’s state has to border a current Big Ten school.
Therefore the addition of Penn State was huge as it allowed for the Big Ten to include Syracuse or Rutgers in the future.
Boise State, no.
by mwhite06 on Oct 18, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Boise St. should join the WAC
Making the MWC essentially a DIV-2 conference :-/
by PHAT JULIO on Oct 18, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
The Pac-10 is the 4th best conference, well, the computers think so..
by PHAT JULIO on Oct 18, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Tripon on Oct 18, 2009 2:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Belliard in the two hole
Can’t really recall a situation with the Dodgers where a regular player who was having a good year was replaced by a waiver wire pickup not only in Sept but in the playoffs. Andre in 2006 might qualify but he was just a kid so replacing him with Marlon didn’t seem so strange at the time considering what Marlon did in Sept. Still for someone of Hudson’s pedigree this is quite amazing.
by meercatjohn on Oct 18, 2009 2:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It has to be the wrist.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Hudson’s going to get another surgery on it in the offseason.
by Tripon on Oct 18, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
several times
he looked like he was in pain with the wrist.
by LA Taco on Oct 18, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well lets kick some philly ass tonight boys
by peteyweestro on Oct 18, 2009 3:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
NFL
Patriots are demoralizing the Titans. Holy crap.
by PHAT JULIO on Oct 18, 2009 3:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The Titans must really want the number one pick.
by Tripon on Oct 18, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They'll have to fight the Rams to get it
NO, BRAD LIDGE HAS NOT RETURNED TO FORM!!!! I DON'T KNOW HOW THE HELL YOU CAN DEDUCE THAT BASED ON TWO OUTINGS!!!!
by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Oct 18, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sanchez unraveling against the Bills
3 interceptions
by desecrator09 on Oct 18, 2009 3:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Almost just picked again
NO, BRAD LIDGE HAS NOT RETURNED TO FORM!!!! I DON'T KNOW HOW THE HELL YOU CAN DEDUCE THAT BASED ON TWO OUTINGS!!!!
by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Oct 18, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Bills are so stupid. How many penalties is that now??
by desecrator09 on Oct 18, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hello
I’m just stopping by to wish you guys good luck tonight. I won’t be here for the start of the game but hopefully I’ll be able to join you guys later. Go Dodgers!
by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 18, 2009 3:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Why? Because they’re tied against Buffalo at home? Last time I checked they’re in first place in the AFC east.
by PHAT JULIO on Oct 18, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
they wont do nothing in the playoffs
by desecrator09 on Oct 18, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and because they're QB is a rookie
hes talented as hell dont get me wrong but hes gonna be very unpredictable as you’ve seen this game
by desecrator09 on Oct 18, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cuz you're a fortune teller, ok.
You probably thought Arizona was going to lose in the first round last year, too.
by PHAT JULIO on Oct 18, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
its just my gut feeling man
lol im saying for sure its gonna happen. Chill out
by desecrator09 on Oct 18, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They're tied with Pats
and at this rate, they might fall behind.
NO, BRAD LIDGE HAS NOT RETURNED TO FORM!!!! I DON'T KNOW HOW THE HELL YOU CAN DEDUCE THAT BASED ON TWO OUTINGS!!!!
by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Oct 18, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Saints look unstoppable
NO, BRAD LIDGE HAS NOT RETURNED TO FORM!!!! I DON'T KNOW HOW THE HELL YOU CAN DEDUCE THAT BASED ON TWO OUTINGS!!!!
by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Oct 18, 2009 4:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i like the Vikes too
there front four on D are unbelievable
by Rutgers Dodger fan on Oct 18, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vikings look good
And Favre has been great
NO, BRAD LIDGE HAS NOT RETURNED TO FORM!!!! I DON'T KNOW HOW THE HELL YOU CAN DEDUCE THAT BASED ON TWO OUTINGS!!!!
by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Oct 18, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jared Allen is the most exciting DE to watch
by PHAT JULIO on Oct 18, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Raiders will not go 1-15 this year.
Even when they suck, they can’t suck right.
by Tripon on Oct 18, 2009 4:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
them winning this game
makes me hate them even more for that exact same reason lol. Last yrs Lions were one of my all time favorite teams
by desecrator09 on Oct 18, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Final Odds
Vegas +165/-157 or 61.69% (PHI)
Sim with real lineups: 58.66% (PHI)
Go Dodgers!
vr, Xei
by Xeifrank on Oct 18, 2009 4:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Raiders beat Eagles
Only Part 1 of California defeating Philadelphia today
Hiroki Kuroda does not care about your head.
by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Oct 18, 2009 4:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
Jamarcus Russell actually having a QB rating over 60.
by PHAT JULIO on Oct 18, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
dont hate on Jamarcus bro
hes gonna be a stud. You quote that too.
by desecrator09 on Oct 18, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's running out of time
Hiroki Kuroda does not care about your head.
by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Oct 18, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he was a running back, sure.
As a QB? Not so much.
by Tripon on Oct 18, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
MLB Network showing Dodgers hitters in the cage before the game. Casey Blake just finished laying down a few bunts. Hopefully not a sign of things to come. :)
vr, Xei
by Xeifrank on Oct 18, 2009 4:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
why?
he sucks at bunting or something?
by desecrator09 on Oct 18, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Torre only asks to bunt when the team is down or tied.
by Tripon on Oct 18, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh haha
ya hopefully thats not a bad sign
by desecrator09 on Oct 18, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
FSN and TBS having their pre game show now.
Kevin Kennedy is back!
by Tripon on Oct 18, 2009 4:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
a TampaBay Ray fan from florida here. wishing you luck tonight and for the rest of the series.
we aren’t too fond of kevin kennedy down here, but good luck tonight I hope you go on to win the WS
by gjsor on Oct 18, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kevin Kennedy used to do the pregame and post game show for the Dodgers until Big FOX got fired him.
And a lot of Dodgers fans were rooting for the Rays due to the former Dodgers connection on the Rays team last year. (Edwin Jackson, Navarro, etc.)
by Tripon on Oct 18, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget
We also hate Philly
Hiroki Kuroda does not care about your head.
by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Oct 18, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well aware of that. lol
moving over to thread
by gjsor on Oct 18, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
will we be able to pick up the kcal feed over the internet tonight?
i heard something like they were taking extra measures to make sure it is synced, but i dont know if we can get it through kabc.com
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
by Ollie on Oct 18, 2009 4:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i know, i'm wondering if i can sync it with kcla
so i can listen charlie and vin
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
by Ollie on Oct 18, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry kabc..
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
by Ollie on Oct 18, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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