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Dodgers Turn To The Wolf To Get Even

The Wolfman Cometh tonight for the Dodgers

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The Wolfman Cometh tonight for the Dodgers

So, other than that, how was the play last night, Mrs. Lincoln?

If baseball had a football schedule, we would have a week to stew over last night's debacle, but luckily the greatest game on Earth is quick to forgive and forget, as the Dodgers have a chance to quickly erase last night's memory from their minds.

Randy Wolf returns to his old stomping grounds tonight, trying to even the NLCS at two.  Wolf was drafted by the Phillies in 1997, and spent his first ten years as a pro in the Phillies' organization.  He started the very first game at Citizens Bank Park, in 2004.  Manager Joe Torre thought highly enough of Wolf to start him in the NLDS opener against the Cardinals.  However, Wolf was inexplicably dropped to fourth in the rotation for the NLCS, but that decision may just pay off just when the Dodgers need it most.  Wolf was a rock for the Dodgers this season, leading the club in starts, innings, and quality starts. 

Left-handed batters hit just .159/.217/.200 against Wolf this season, striking out in 60 of 185 plate appearances, a stellar 32.4% of the time.  In Game 1 against the Cardinals, lefties Skip Schumaker and Colby Rasmus had two hits and two walks in five plate appearances against Wolf.  Ryan Howard, who struggled against LHP all season, has a double and two walks in five plate appearances against southpaws in the NLCS, with three runs batted in.

Joe Blanton, who was used in relief in the NLDS, starts tonight for the Phillies.  After giving up five runs in five innings in Cincinnati on May 21 (in a win!), Blanton's ERA stood at 7.11, as home plate was always open for the opposition.  Since then, however, Blanton really turned it around, going 10-5 with a 3.16 ERA and 4.18 FIP in 23 starts, averaging 6.57 innings per start.

To win tonight, the Dodger offense needs to show up.  Over the last two games, the Dodgers have no extra-base hits, and have just two runs and 11 baserunners in total, hitting .145/.190/.145.  I keep hearing Citizens Bank Park is a hitter-friendly park, but the Dodgers are doing their best to convince me otherwise.  Since the beginning of 2008, the Dodgers have scored just 29 runs in 10 games in Philadelphia, including the playoffs.  Nine of those runs came in one game, earlier this season, but other than that runs have been few and far between for the Dodgers in the city of brotherly love.  To win tonight and in this series, they need to score, and score often.

A few notes:

  • Manny Ramirez has 15 hits in 26 at-bats against Blanton, hitting .577/.636/.731 with one home run
  • James Loney is seven for 10 with a double off Blanton, hitting .700/.750/.800
  • Andre Ethier has six hits in 14 at-bats, including two solo home runs, against Blanton, hitting .429/.467/.857
  • Casey Blake has just one single in 23 at-bats against Blanton, hitting .043/.154/.043
  • Pedro Feliz is five for 19 with three homers off Wolf, hitting .294/.316/.824
  • Carlos Ruiz if four for six, with two doubles and a home run (shocker, I know) off Wolf, packing a lot of production (.667/.750/1.500) into just eight plate appearances

The Dodgers this postseason are 4-0 when playing on a day with other games scheduled, and 0-2 when they are the lone game on the schedule.  The Yankees and Angels play Game 3 of the ALCS today at 1:13pm.

Here are the lineups for Game 4:

Dodgers             
     Phillies
SS Furcal            
SS Rollins   
CF Kemp CF Victorino       
RF Ethier 2B Utley
LF Manny  1B Howard
1B Loney RF Werth       
2B Belliard LF Ibañez
C Martin 3B Feliz  
3B Blake C Ruiz
P Wolf P Blanton    

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Check out Xeifrank's simulation of today's game here.

Game Time:  5:07pm

TV: TBS (Chip Caray, Ron Darling, Buck Martinez)

Baseball Reference Game Four Preview

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Hate to rehash the Lee trade

But I think Cleveland was pretty slimy to take an inferior package (allegedly) after we gave up such a stud catching prospect the previous year.

by silverwidow on Oct 19, 2009 12:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I doubt we’ll ever really know what the Dodger offer was, but I believe these two things very strongly:

1) Different teams evaluate players very differently, and
2) The Indians took the package they felt was superior

by Eric Stephen on Oct 19, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shapiro would go nuts if the LAD trade was leaked.
Kinda odd however.. You trade Blake for 1 Top 10 prospect and 1 potential potent bullpen arm and then you get some decent but not spectacular kids for Lee and Martinez.
I know the LAD trade for Blake was a massive over pay.. but what the hell

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 19, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good points. I can’t refute them at all.

But I have no doubt that we offered guys with more upside. Only drawback probably that they were further away from MLB.

by silverwidow on Oct 19, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Says more about Ned than Shaprio

I R 5

by say hey nation on Oct 19, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why are you running over to MCC to tell everyone how Silverwidow’s comment is, in your words, “the stupidest arguement ever?”

2009-10 LA Kings Hockey: Where Smyt Happens!!

by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 19, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

b/c it is a pretty stupid argument

I R 5

by say hey nation on Oct 19, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha, I got a mention over at MCC in that thread too.
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Oct 19, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Go back to your cave

I know I’m late but still

Hiroki Kuroda does not care about your head.

by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Oct 19, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would be nice....

To dress the Phillies up like they did us last night. It would so nice if the Dodgers scored a boat load of runs in the first two innings, and cruise it home to a victory. That is unless Carlos Ruiz who kinda looks like Mini Me has anything to say about it.

by Ian Capilouto on Oct 19, 2009 12:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Umpires

It would be nice to get at Philly early but the Umpires are getting in the way. The strike zone is rediculous. Something needs to be done. Maybe we should all donate our old glasses to them.

by MIMIPACA on Oct 19, 2009 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Props to Xeifrank

He takes a lot of bullshit comments from idiots when simply providing his simulation, especially on other sites. He goes out of his way to explain the methodology behind the simulation, and provides great detail. He is providing a very cool service, yet the majority of comments he gets on other sites are of the “shove your simulator up your ass” variety.

That’s bullshit.

Thanks Xeifrank for giving us more information than we already had. Keep up the great work.

vr, Eric :)

by Eric Stephen on Oct 19, 2009 12:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I actually enjoy reading the Xeifranks simulations. Very entertaining and just for fun

I R 5

by say hey nation on Oct 19, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What?

This is like blaming the weather on not sacrificing enough virgins.

I mean … don’t get mad at the virgins and then throw them into volcanoes – the weather is the weather! The simulations just are.

by Seanny Rotten on Oct 19, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha, thanks for the kind words of support. Really only one site has been a-holes of the 8 different playoff team blogs I’ve posted sim results to… and that site is TBLA, You guys are jerks! haha, j/k… not this site of course. Starts with a Phil and ends with a Delphia, not a Gurnee. :) Still not as tough as MCC, those guys take the qiche. VEB was probably the coolest site and had the most curious and informed questions (other than here of course).
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Oct 19, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Those damn Cardinal fans

absolutely refuse to be asses don’t they? I always want to hate the Cardinals, but I can only seem to muster the will when they are playing us.

Philly, on the other hand, has become my third least favorite set of fans. I have moved the Phillies from the “Don’t care” column, to the “Don’t like” column, to the “Really hate” column in just two years.

by prosellis on Oct 19, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Weather seems about the same tonight, maybe slightly warmer

http://www.weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/graph/USPA1276?from=36hr_topnav_undeclared

Between 44 and 49 degrees during the game. Yesterday’s high for the day in Philly was 49, while today it was 56.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 19, 2009 12:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

the east coast

sucks… weather-wise that is.

by LA Taco on Oct 19, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

With the Dodgers declining Ohman’s option, does that make him a FA immediately or does he have to wait until after the World Series to file?

by silverwidow on Oct 19, 2009 12:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He’ll still have to file during the filing period.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 19, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So we were discussing yesterday...

That maybe TBLA needs one of those “1-day” or “2-day” wait till being admitted to join TBLA, part of the reason were that 3 people came and were pretty annoying. could be that they were all from the same host. When banned, does the SB Nation server block IP addresses?

by PHAT JULIO on Oct 19, 2009 12:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It probably does, SB nation is pretty damn cool and I am sure their IT dudes have the means. But the hardest of the hardcore trolls will use IPshark and things of that sort.

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 19, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The waiting period is a choice by each blog, and we don’t want to hinder Dodger fans from joining. Best thing to do with trolls is to ignore them, but yes IP addresses can be banned.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 19, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yusei Kikuchi

Does this dude have any other stuff than throwing 96 mph at 18 years of age?

by PHAT JULIO on Oct 19, 2009 12:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Starters

Just took a gander at the Calender, didn’t realize today’s starter has four days rest before game 7. Gives a lot of options for G7.

Here’s my current idea of the best Pitching schedule based through yesterday’s results:

G4 Wolf (take out after 5) – Pen (1 game in next 3 days)
G5 Padilla – Pen (hopefully Padilla goes deep again)
G6 Kershaw -Pen
G7 Wolf (take out early) – bring in heat Bills (2 innings, short leash) – Kuroda (if all else fails) – I might even plan on throw Tron in there instead of Kuroda if he isn’t needed before – Pen

You can really throw everything and the kitchen sink into game 7. Amazingly there are three days off in between G7 and G1 of WS. All pitchers would be available G2 of WS.

by Cool Dudes on Oct 19, 2009 12:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Jeter leads off game with a HR

1-0 NYA after 1/2 inning.
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Oct 19, 2009 1:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Why?

Andy Pettite seems to have that kind of face. In fact all the Yankees seem to excel in having that kind of face. Mark Texeira leads the pack.

by Ian Capilouto on Oct 19, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's up with the Angels game?

I know I could just flip it on over to any sports.com site see the score, but I am being very lazy right now.

by Ian Capilouto on Oct 19, 2009 2:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Jeter has a lead-off home run is all that I have heard so far…

2009-10 LA Kings Hockey: Where Smyt Happens!!

by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 19, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But but...

ARod doesn’t hit any meaningful RBI’s in the postseason.

by Michael White on Oct 19, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, who was that TBLA member who told me to take the ARod prop bets, when i said his post-season performance was a SSS?
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Oct 19, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stillnotah8er

by Michael White on Oct 19, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Remind me to bug him about that next time he shows up. :)
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Oct 19, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

From MLB.com’s Noah Coslov:

Furcal SS
Kemp CF
Ethier RF
Ramirez LF
Loney 1B
Belliard 2B
Martin C
Blake 3B
Wolf P

by Eric Stephen on Oct 19, 2009 2:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Problem is that we have

three players who are really number eight hitters in Martin/Blake/Belliard and even Hudson if Hudson is playing instead of Belliard.

by meercatjohn on Oct 19, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blake’s a #8 hitter? Really?

by Eric Stephen on Oct 19, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didnt he hit 9th for a long time in CLE, not saying hes a 8/9 hitter by any means.

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 19, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's had more at bats

batting a combined 8th and 9th then any other spot in the lineup. I’d say someone batting 9th in the AL is the same as batting 8th in the NL.

by meercatjohn on Oct 19, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just going by his

historical at bats in a lineup.

by meercatjohn on Oct 19, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Everythings Relative

They would all be hitting 3 or 4 on SF

by Cool Dudes on Oct 19, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What difference does that make?

There is a reason SF is watching the games now.

by Michael White on Oct 19, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We Have the Hitters

We just need the starters to perform and we win.

The offense has feasted on bad pitchers and starved on good pitching all year.

by Cool Dudes on Oct 19, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What was Lincecum when we beat him.

Was that his period as a bad pitcher?

by meercatjohn on Oct 19, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes he was off that day, like Kuroda

He beat us as well. When good pitchers pitched bad, the Dodger’s feasted as well, just like the Phils did. These teams are a lot alike except we have a better pen and they are better at hitting the long ball.

by Cool Dudes on Oct 19, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd just say

that most teams have trouble hitting elite pitching, that is you no, kind of what makes them ELITE pitchers. The fact they are hard to hit.

by meercatjohn on Oct 19, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right

and we have seen a whole lot this post-season, and we still have good numbers. Hitting is not the problem.

by Cool Dudes on Oct 19, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see

So when good pitchers get beat by the Dodgers, it’s because they pitched poorly.

When good pitchers shut down the Dodgers, its because the Dodgers can’t hit.

Makes sense.

by Michael White on Oct 19, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

2009

Casey Blake – .280/.363/.468 (.832 OPS)

NL #8 hitter – .253/.326/.371 (.697 OPS)
NL #4 hitter – .278/.353/.482 (.835 OPS)

Blake sure looks like one of those hitters.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 19, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh that’s why Martin is the 8 hitter.

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 19, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Total one of these – :)

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 19, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We make fun of the Giants and our clean up hitters had an OPS of .835? Pablo Sandoval scoffs at such mediocrity.

by meercatjohn on Oct 19, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The National League cleanup hitters had an OPS of .835.

The Dodgers were much worse, at .769

by Eric Stephen on Oct 19, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Was anyone worse?

that is terrible and yes I am surprised the average is so low for the league.

by meercatjohn on Oct 19, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

only Cincinnati, Florida, and Pittsburgh.

But we dominate at #7 and #8, because we do stupid things like batting better hitters lower.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 19, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oops

I can then bet you we had the best 8 spot of an NL team.

Torre kept chasing the hot hand all year and as soon as he got into the meat of the lineup, he would cool down

by Cool Dudes on Oct 19, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Most of that OPS

came from May, we are a long way from the days of May.

by meercatjohn on Oct 19, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My objection was to lumping Blake in with shittier #8 hitters

but since June 1, Blake is at .270/.356/.423, a .780 OPS which is more in line with a #5 or 6 hitter in the NL.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 19, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I understand

I lumped Casey in because he has in fact had more at bats batting 8/9 then any of those other hitters. He is a better hitter then all of them but managers evidently consider him a bottom of the order hitter.

I’d be more interested not in what the average is for the league since the league is full of lousy teams but what the average was for the teams who were in the playoffs.

by meercatjohn on Oct 19, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OPS NL Rank

Cleanup
3) Phils 913
5) Rox 879
7) Cards 849
13) Dodgers 769

#5
2) Phils 857
3) Rox 845
10) Cards 730
13) Dodgers 704

#7
1) Dodgers 842
10) Phils 704
12) Rox 683
14) Cards 664

#8
1) Dodgers 798
2) Rox 782
4) Phils 736
14) Cards 645

by Eric Stephen on Oct 19, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good work

Though I can draw no conclusions because when we moved our productive eight hitters up in the order (4th/5th) they failed.

by meercatjohn on Oct 19, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shouldn't this conclusively tell Joe to start

Odog now instead of Belliard.

The "hot hand will inevitably cool off " theory?

by Cool Dudes on Oct 19, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No question

Belliard is going to cool off, but is normal Hudson any better then normal Belliard at this point of their careers?

If Hudson was 100% healthy he’d be playing at least against RHP, the fact he’s not says more about his health then Torre’s commitment to Belliard.

And I don’t see what Eric’s chart has anything to do with the 2nd base situation.

by meercatjohn on Oct 19, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Torre Chasing the hot hand is the reason the 4 spot is so poor

Our four best hitters hit (949, 869, 842, 933) had a better OPS.

Granted you might not have anticipated our second best hitter (Hu?) numbers to hold up or think of him in the number 4 spot :), but our three outfielders (and Blake) all had better numbers than the average 4 spot OPS.

Just shows that whoever he put in the 4 spot (Manny, Etheir, Kemp, or Blake) cooled off as soon as he put them in and heated up after they came out.

by Cool Dudes on Oct 19, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So he should do the OPPOSITE of his instinct.

Because he has been dead wrong all year.

by Cool Dudes on Oct 19, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Joe “George Costanza” Torre

by LA Taco on Oct 19, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is Orlando Hudson

still badly hurt?
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Oct 19, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

or is Belliard going down with the ship?
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Oct 19, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The latter more than the former

by Eric Stephen on Oct 19, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

has Belliard been any worse

then anyone else over the last two games?

by meercatjohn on Oct 19, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have no idea, just seems like a good chance to play Hudson if he’s healthy with a RHP and all.
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Oct 19, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

this whole Hudson/Belliard thing is just bizarre. I can see spelling Hudson but I don’t get the fact he totally lost his job.

by meercatjohn on Oct 19, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Phillies lineup - if it ain't broke...

per Todd Zolecki (MLB.com):

Rollins SS
Victorino CF
Utley 2B
Howard 1B
Werth RF
Ibanez LF
Feliz 3B
Ruiz C
Blanton P

by Eric Stephen on Oct 19, 2009 2:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Does Charlie Manual have a macro for that?
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Oct 19, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That has to be the lineup 95 percent of the time.

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 19, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is true

but when the Phillies win the WS with a leadoff hitter with an OB% below .300, who are you going to complain to?

by meercatjohn on Oct 19, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh, this pitching rotation … from a recent LATimes article:

The day off would allow Game 2 starter Vicente Padilla to pitch Game 5 on a regular four-days’ rest.

Kershaw, 21, faltered in the fifth inning of Game 1. He was charged with five runs and set an NLCS record by throwing three wild pitches in the inning.

“You know, he’s a young man that we feel strongly about,” Torre said. "Is he still learning? Sure. Is he afraid to go out there? No. And that was certainly a big part in our making the decision to pitch him in Game 1.

“I anticipate he’ll be the Game 5 starter.”
I was about ready to rip Torre for not having Padilla go in game 5 on regular 4 days rest and making Kershaw pitch on the road seeing how dominant he was at home this year (game 1 not withstanding) … but who cares? Seriously this whole thing has been a total and complete crapshoot. Kershaw is next to unhittable at home, then has a 5th inning meltdown. Maybe 200 innings is too much for his 21 year old arm and it doesn’t matter where he plays, we should be lucky it hasn’t fallen off. I don’t know – I’m going to put my faith in Torre. But having Kershaw pitch game 1 and saving Wolf for Game 4, c’MON!!

by Seanny Rotten on Oct 19, 2009 2:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wolf

I don’t believe Wolf is a better pitcher than Kershaw (or Billingsley) so I have no problem with the decision to start Kershaw first. He was on regular rest. Padilla has also outpitched Wolf (and just about everybody else) since arriving. The only real argument would be starting Kuroda over Wolf which is curious, though maybe not that stupid. As I’m sure Xeifrank will confirm, the odds were firmly against the Dodgers yesterday whether the starter was Chad, Kuroda, Wolf, me or anybody else yesterday—- so saving your next best pitcher for today in the more winnable game may not be that stupid.

by Michael White on Oct 19, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Wolf can also be back for G7

and Lee is most likely a go for G6, so it makes sense not to have Wolf go against Lee.

by Cool Dudes on Oct 19, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hear ya.

I basically came around and realized there’s no “best” pitching rotation this NLCS. Whoever we throw out there we’ll have to hope for the best. There isn’t a “correct” answer on who pitches when.

by Seanny Rotten on Oct 19, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It could be worse . . .

we could have Scioscia as manager.

Good GOD those are some horrendous roster movies.

by Seanny Rotten on Oct 19, 2009 3:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Seriously

why does Scioscia keep pinch hitting for Napoli??

by Seanny Rotten on Oct 19, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its hard to watch when he does that.

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 19, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe the 39 K's in his last 130 at bats has

something to do with it with only nine walks.

by meercatjohn on Oct 19, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gary Matthews? Really tho? Shit I rather see Scioscia taking hacks.

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 19, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

3-1 angels

Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....

by shaqfor3 on Oct 19, 2009 3:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

the yankees are winning :(

Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....

by shaqfor3 on Oct 19, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

God, I hate the Yankees. It is like the popular kids winning.

I have even had decades long Yankees fans that I know tell me that it is hard for them to truly root for the Yankees.

by Ian Capilouto on Oct 19, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

them and the phillies are annoying hehe

Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....

by shaqfor3 on Oct 19, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would really love to see the Dodgers

kick the shit out of the Yankees. Hopefully this little wish of mine comes to fruition if they meet up. In honor of this, I will put a dart board with A-Rod and Texeria’s smugly stupid faces on my wall.

by Ian Capilouto on Oct 19, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Should the Dodgers pitch to Howard or walk him more?

All MLB teams are equal but some MLB teams are more equal than others.

by Sordid on Oct 19, 2009 3:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

With a LHP pitching, I would never intentionally walk Howard

by Eric Stephen on Oct 19, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm shocked at Howards

performance so far, starting with his key double against Kershaw. I’d still never walk him, Werth is a hell of hitter these days. You pick your poison to bring in a lefty to get Howard, if you keep him around to pitch to Werth. From 2 – 6 that is a nasty group of hitters. I’m still in awe of what Padilla did.

by meercatjohn on Oct 19, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I didn’t record that game or anything. How was Padilla’s movement? What about Pedro’s?

by Eric Stephen on Oct 19, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I watched it on gameday

so I can’t answer your question.

by meercatjohn on Oct 19, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can only assume both had great stuff, as it was popup and short flyball city all game.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 19, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rory Markas just said Pettitte has made 18 pickoff attempts to 1B today so far. Wow

by Eric Stephen on Oct 19, 2009 3:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah he threw a shitload of them last inning

Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....

by shaqfor3 on Oct 19, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow big homer form vladdy

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on Oct 19, 2009 3:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

vlad ties it up!!

Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....

by shaqfor3 on Oct 19, 2009 3:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Tie game

headed into the 7th. I think a betting man would bet on the Yankee bullpen over the Angels but maybe the Rally Monkey can throw a wrench into the Yankee plans.

by meercatjohn on Oct 19, 2009 3:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

yeap, remember when kershaw threw 5 strikes and he got a walk

Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....

by shaqfor3 on Oct 19, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Teixeira is batting .083

When is Giradi going to move him to the 9 spot?

by meercatjohn on Oct 19, 2009 3:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That's why A-Rod got hot

Someone else to take all the media bashing

by prosellis on Oct 19, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hard to get bashed by anyone when the team has yet to lose in the playoffs :)

by Eric Stephen on Oct 19, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm picturing headlines like:

Yanks Win Despite Texiera’s Quiet Bat

by prosellis on Oct 19, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yankee fans are never totally happy

by prosellis on Oct 19, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

DFA him!

Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....

by shaqfor3 on Oct 19, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not really the fans

It’s the idiot media. There are plenty of reasonable Yankee fans who never bought into the “ARod isn’t clutch” stuff. Bronx Banter had some very smart bloggers.

by Michael White on Oct 19, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know its wrong to over-generalize

but most of the Yankee fans I know or meet outside of the blogosphere are generally unaware that there are teams outside of Boston or New York. None of them were fans before like 1998, and the expect everything to work perfectly for them all the time

by prosellis on Oct 19, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yet to lose

hopefully this isnt true later on

Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....

by shaqfor3 on Oct 19, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

teixeria??

wow
i guess it certainly doesnt help to play in a real ballpark
just kidding

Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....

by shaqfor3 on Oct 19, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

4-3 angels!

Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....

by shaqfor3 on Oct 19, 2009 3:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Kendrick triples

one out, go a head run on 3rd base.

by meercatjohn on Oct 19, 2009 3:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

pump your fist now Joba ahahaha

Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....

by shaqfor3 on Oct 19, 2009 3:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He is my least favorite player in the league.

I fear my true feelings about the Yankees are starting to show. Apologies for the negativity

by prosellis on Oct 19, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

When Kuo does a leg pump after each K he's a stud

when an opponent does something with equal enthusiasm, he’s an asshole.

by meercatjohn on Oct 19, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....

by shaqfor3 on Oct 19, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its not the fist pump

It started with the hype he came up with. While guys like Kershaw or Lincecum come up, they actually have to do something to get any kind of attention. The guy wasn’t even the best pitcher in their system.

by prosellis on Oct 19, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeap hes overrated

Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....

by shaqfor3 on Oct 19, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

I’ve never understood not liking someone for something out of their control. Did Joba write these review? Did he tell BA to rank him higher then Kershaw? Did he overrate himself?

by meercatjohn on Oct 19, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Joba deserves extra credit for teaming with Stephen Merchant to create The Office.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 19, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good thing you posted that

because I had no idea what you were referring to until I saw the photos.

by meercatjohn on Oct 19, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My own stupid ego was in overdrive…I was thinking “how can people not find that hilarious comment funny? nobody even replies” :)

by Eric Stephen on Oct 19, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rock on Joba

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 19, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, don't get me wrong

this is absolutely an irrational hatred. But none the less, he brings that emotion out in me like no other.

by prosellis on Oct 19, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no problem

i was neutral towards em
but i want the angels to go to the WS

Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....

by shaqfor3 on Oct 19, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is why Aubrey Huff is my favorite player in the AL

he hit one off Joba and then did that dumb fist pump all around the bases.

by Seanny Rotten on Oct 19, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather trade for Uggla

Hiroki Kuroda does not care about your head.

by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Oct 19, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I rather play Dewitt

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 19, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

After his year in Triple-A?

Not likely

Hiroki Kuroda does not care about your head.

by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Oct 19, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

James Loney is upset with you.

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 19, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Elaborate, please

Hiroki Kuroda does not care about your head.

by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Oct 19, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mr Loney was sucking in AAA

when we brought him up and he proceeded to tear the NL a new one.

by meercatjohn on Oct 19, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too bad DeWitt

never got to do the same.

Hiroki Kuroda does not care about your head.

by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Oct 19, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I doubt that DeWitt

would have produced anymore then Blake or Hudson/Belliard did.

by meercatjohn on Oct 19, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too but I think hes capable of a Hudson like OPS given the AB’s.

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 19, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But what about Uggla?

He’s my 2B of choice for next season.

Hiroki Kuroda does not care about your head.

by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Oct 19, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too costly in terms of talent

by Eric Stephen on Oct 19, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Still

I can dream

Hiroki Kuroda does not care about your head.

by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Oct 19, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like our prospects and Uggla is terrible in the field.

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 19, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I had enough of Jeff Kent

don’t want to go through that again. Uggla can stay on the Marlins.

by meercatjohn on Oct 19, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uggla is old enough to be a gritty veteran

he’s no spring chicken, didn’t get into the Major Leagues until he was 26.

by meercatjohn on Oct 19, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But he'd be the same age as the guys Kent had problems with.

Or around the same age. Kent was like ten years older over Kemp, Loney, Ethier, etc. Uggla wouldn’t be able to throw a trashcan at Kemp, for instance and claim that he’s giving tough veteran love.

by Tripon on Oct 19, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dan Uggla will be 30 next year. The oldest “young guy” on the Dodgers is Ethier, who will be 28

by Eric Stephen on Oct 19, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kent's Problems

did not start when he was old and on the Dodgers. I thought he meant Jeff Kent in terms of being a horrible fieldder, which did very much start when Kent went to the Dodgers.

by LA Taco on Oct 19, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

2007

AAA – .279/.345/.382 in 261 PA in Vegas
MLB – .331/.381/.538 in 375 PA with the big boys

by Eric Stephen on Oct 19, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That period from late 06 through 2007

is why I will forever be a James Loney fan. He was mind boggling.

by prosellis on Oct 19, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Still,

I’d rather him have a full year in Triple-A, than a full year in the bigs

Hiroki Kuroda does not care about your head.

by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Oct 19, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We're not signing anyone this off season.

Does anyone really believe we have money to spend with the McCourts going ZERG RUSH on each other?

by Tripon on Oct 19, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hip hip

Jorge

Hiroki Kuroda does not care about your head.

by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Oct 19, 2009 4:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

he looks like luigi

Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....

by shaqfor3 on Oct 19, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

4-4 tie

bleh

Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....

by shaqfor3 on Oct 19, 2009 4:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Anyone read Plaschke’s bullshit column today? He said he hoped we didn’t protect Billingsley at the trade deadline and essentially cursed him for giving up two runs last night.

And those prospects that didn’t get traded? Basically called them worthless.

by silverwidow on Oct 19, 2009 4:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I try not to read him, for general health purposes.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 19, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it online? I need a good laugh

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 19, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plaschke sees no value in prospects

Unless your Babe or Hank, your worthless

Hiroki Kuroda does not care about your head.

by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Oct 19, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

to him

all our prospects and pitchers = Lee or Halladay

Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....

by shaqfor3 on Oct 19, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I heard him on 710 once

and he basically said all prospects are good for is to be poker chips.

Hiroki Kuroda does not care about your head.

by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Oct 19, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plaschke main love is the Lakers.

He might understand basketball. Maybe. I doubt it, but maybe. But Plaschke knows shit about baseball and why and how it works.

by Tripon on Oct 19, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no

he doesnt know shit about either sports

Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....

by shaqfor3 on Oct 19, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's the same guy who

hated Kemp in favor of the veterans.

by Seanny Rotten on Oct 19, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes

he said we should went after lee
bullshit

Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....

by shaqfor3 on Oct 19, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

because we just sat back and twiddled our thumbs

Hiroki Kuroda does not care about your head.

by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Oct 19, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

he wanted them present at Game 3 so they could feel bad about the Dodgers not trading them because it’s their fault we didn’t get Lee.

Plasskey’s crazy, man.

by Seanny Rotten on Oct 19, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, Bobby Abreu.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 19, 2009 4:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That was stupid

He had no shot at third

Hiroki Kuroda does not care about your head.

by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Oct 19, 2009 4:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What just happened.

Gameday is not sufficiently explaining this

by prosellis on Oct 19, 2009 4:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Did the Angels pull another bonehead mistake again?

by Ian Capilouto on Oct 19, 2009 4:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Did a Yankee fielder throw up the “FUCK YES” arm?

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 19, 2009 4:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep nevermind

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 19, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

stupid mistake by Abreu

Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....

by shaqfor3 on Oct 19, 2009 4:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

second

Hiroki Kuroda does not care about your head.

by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Oct 19, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gameday said it went:

Cabrera-Jeter-Tex. I am struggling to picture this.

by prosellis on Oct 19, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Usually the first baseman is in the middle of the diamond so he covered. I dont know where Cano was at.

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 19, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Abreu doubles

tries to go to 3rd then realizes he cant make it
and goes back to second but gets tagged out

Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....

by shaqfor3 on Oct 19, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So Jeter makes the heads up play again?

What a douche, always thinking, I hate that, overrated piece of crap. I hope he didn’t show any emotion after nailing the go a head runner and giving his team a better chance to win.

by meercatjohn on Oct 19, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

um i never said anything bad about jeter

that was kinda uncalled for

Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....

by shaqfor3 on Oct 19, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That wasn't directed at you

just at all the future comments who will claim Jeter is the most overrated player in the game after they get sick of watching ESPN show the play over and over because we know Jeter pays them to fawn over him like that.

by meercatjohn on Oct 19, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just for the record, I hate Jeter because he is a Yankee.

But I had secretly wished he had requested a trade to the Dodgers to be with his mentor Joe Torre. I have always thought Jeter was a great player.

by Ian Capilouto on Oct 19, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

really he isnt overrated at all

i said joba was and thats it…

Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....

by shaqfor3 on Oct 19, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I already said the comment was not directed at you

I just put it in the reply because Jeter was in the comment. Sorry if you took offense.

by meercatjohn on Oct 19, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no problem :)

i see what u mean

Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....

by shaqfor3 on Oct 19, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll say it.

Jeter is without a doubt a hall of famer that has been an integral part of a very successful franchise. That said, he’s not even the best shortstop on the team.

by prosellis on Oct 19, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hairston is not much of a SS these days.

Or do you mean the hulking 3rd baseman who probably has the range these days of Jeff Kent. That argument has probably melted away as Arod bulked up.

by meercatjohn on Oct 19, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

it makes less sense now. But on the same token, Jeter should have been moved to CF at the time Rodriguez came on board anyway….

by Michael White on Oct 19, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But it was true when he came.

I believe he probably wouldn’t have put on as much mass if he was still at short. (And I said all that with tongue halfway in cheek.)

by prosellis on Oct 19, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup

That always bothered me. Rodriguez was the better SS and the Yankees made him move to 3rd base as to not inconvenience the captain. Phil will say this is not Jeter’s fault, and he may be right…

by Michael White on Oct 19, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just don't see how you move your franchise face

who is responsible for much of the good will that the Yankees have.

by Ian Capilouto on Oct 19, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He could be the face at another position.

A-Rod would have been an upgrade at the time

by prosellis on Oct 19, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would it really have been that much of a difference defensively?

And enough to piss off your franchise player who has been nothing short of tremendous in every aspect of the game?

by Ian Capilouto on Oct 19, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why would that piss of the Captain?

shouldn’t he want to do what’s best for the team?

Isn’t that what being a true yankee and a leader of men is all about.

by Michael White on Oct 19, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Jeter is the leader that he has always been touted as

I would have expected him to say, “Hey Joe, let Alex take short. He’s pretty good there.”

by prosellis on Oct 19, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I expect that Jeter does not read defensive metrics

and truly believed he was as good if not better then ARod. All you have to do is listen to ex-jocks and what they think and you won’t think that if very far fetched.

by meercatjohn on Oct 19, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely.

I think that was probably a huge component. I also think Torre is not the kind of guy who is going to move his favorite player around in favor of the new guy. I also am guessing the Boss was not silent on the issue.

by prosellis on Oct 19, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't doubt that Jeter thinks he's better than A-Rod

I would disagree. Either way, what matters is what Torre thought.

I don’t disagree that Jeter can play some baseball. It’s the over the top talk about his character as a leader that makes me want to vomit and is the reason why a lot of us get worked up when discussing Jeter.

by Michael White on Oct 19, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because I don't think A-Rod

is a better defender than Jeter. And it is disruptive to something that has been workign greawt for many years. Ok, I gotta leave work so I cna’t reply to your next reply, so don’t take that as me ignoring you. Peace out. Dodgers, kick some ass tonight please.

by Ian Capilouto on Oct 19, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Um, because you want to put the best lineup in the field as possible..

Call me crazy, but maybe the manager should make decisions based on baseball playing ability and not marketability.

by Michael White on Oct 19, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Waste of money. But “that one guy from Step Brothers is in it!”

by NotJoeTorre on Oct 19, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

John C Reilly

by Eric Stephen on Oct 19, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i cant picture him in a roll like that

hes always in those comedy movies

Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....

by shaqfor3 on Oct 19, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ron Gardenhire is on the phone, telling whomever will listen to sign Abreu because he “plays the game the right way.”

by Eric Stephen on Oct 19, 2009 4:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Now you made me read that Planche column

They are always so fun for their irrational stupidity. What a blathering idiot.

I totally remember the Dodgers emptying their farm system to pick up Hersheiser in 1988. He also said Kuroda pitched one batter well, he even undershot his negativity. That boy just ain’t too bright.

Is this guy just such a moron that he can’t even comprehend the total lack of logic in his own columns?

by Cool Dudes on Oct 19, 2009 4:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The Angels are going to lose another extra inning game

and the media will note they are down 3 – 0 and say the Yankee’s have owned them.

by meercatjohn on Oct 19, 2009 4:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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