Hiroki Kuroda Out For NLDS

by Eric Stephen on Oct 2, 2009 4:34 PM PDT in News

Phil Gurnee is at the park tonight, and he just reported that Hiroki Kuroda is out for the first round of the playoffs. Joe Torre announced that "Kuroda has a small herniation of his cervical spine," but no surgery will be needed.

With Kuroda out of the NLDS, I am guessing the starting rotation will be Randy Wolf, Clayton Kershaw, Chad Billingsley, then Jon Garland. Ben Maller reported that Joe Torre did in fact say Garland would take Kuroda's spot in the rotation. However, conflicting information comes from Ken Gurnick of MLB.com, who reported that Billingsley, Garland, and Vicente Padilla are all in the running to start in the playoffs, but "no decision on who joins Randy Wolf and Clayton Kershaw will be made until an opponent is determined." (thanks to El Lay Dave for that link)

Padilla has been announced as the starter for Sunday's regular season finale.

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Bummer

at least we have the Ned special to back him up.

by Dodger Dude on Oct 2, 2009 4:36 PM PDT reply actions

Rules Question

If we want him for the 2nd round, does he have to be on the playoff roster for the 1st round as well?

by Michael White on Oct 2, 2009 4:37 PM PDT reply actions

Rosters can change round by round

by Eric Stephen on Oct 2, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions

Thanks

by Michael White on Oct 2, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions

Garland or Billingsley not exactly and ideal choice

"If your season is going well, you have walked into an ambush."

by Sordid on Oct 2, 2009 4:37 PM PDT reply actions

Brutal setback, especially considering how well Kuroda pitched in the playoffs last year.

What if Game 4 was a must-win, would you still throw Garland out there? I’d be inclined to go with the Game 1 started again in Game 4 if it is a must-win.

You wanna know how great baseball is? The greatest basketball player ever left his sport to play baseball.

by Jesse S. on Oct 2, 2009 4:38 PM PDT reply actions

*Game 1 starter…

You wanna know how great baseball is? The greatest basketball player ever left his sport to play baseball.

by Jesse S. on Oct 2, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions

Unlikely, although possible. With the schedule, Wolf could pitch game 4 on short rest, and Kershaw game 5 on full rest.

But let’s burn that bridge when we get to it.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 2, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions

Wouldn't you throw out Padilla before Garland at this point?

Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave

by Mondogarage on Oct 2, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions

No, Just No

"If your season is going well, you have walked into an ambush."

by Sordid on Oct 2, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions

I wouldn't...

by Michael White on Oct 2, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions

If you mean like the trash, yes.

by David Young on Oct 2, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions

Maybe…I’m just going on usage though. Padilla was moved to the pen for this week. Garland wasn’t

by Eric Stephen on Oct 2, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions

I think his luck has just about completely worn off. As mediocre as Garland is, at least he can be relied upon to be mediocre. Padilla’s starts can turn bad quick.

You wanna know how great baseball is? The greatest basketball player ever left his sport to play baseball.

by Jesse S. on Oct 2, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions

Yeah I’m not expecting the Dodgers to be on the brink of elimination for Game 4… I just don’t like the thought of Garland starting in a high-pressure situation.

You wanna know how great baseball is? The greatest basketball player ever left his sport to play baseball.

by Jesse S. on Oct 2, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions

High-pressure? Like the ALCS and WS that he pitched in in the past? Two quality starts, one 7 IP, one CG.

by David Young on Oct 2, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions

He does have a good track record, you’re right. But that was 4 years ago.

You wanna know how great baseball is? The greatest basketball player ever left his sport to play baseball.

by Jesse S. on Oct 2, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions

Is Elbert an option? :)

by Michael White on Oct 2, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions

as it should be

With Kuroda out of the NLDS, I am guessing the starting rotation will be Randy Wolf, Clayton Kershaw, Chad Billingsley, then Jon Garland.

by hirambocachica on Oct 2, 2009 4:39 PM PDT reply actions

Look at it this way

Kuroda didn’t exactly pitch all that much this year anyway

by Michael White on Oct 2, 2009 4:40 PM PDT reply actions

A stiff neck? That can’t get better by the time we need him in a week and a half? This is so lame.

by KSeal on Oct 2, 2009 4:40 PM PDT reply actions

Kuroda is pretty tough…I’m sure it’s severe enough to be legitimate.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 2, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions

Do we know how he hurt it?

by KSeal on Oct 2, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions

a better question

is why there aren’t more injuries like this. throwing a baseball over 90 mph is a really odd thing to do to your body.

by stillnotah8er on Oct 2, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions

Good point. Too bad it wasn’t just a sore neck, I could see just a sore neck getting better in a few days. But now knowing what it is who knows if he’ll even be ready at all during the playoffs if the Dodgers do advance.

by KSeal on Oct 2, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions

it's a pretty nasty area to injure

i’d guess the average gangbanger in a wheelchair can often thank their cervical spine for their fate

by stillnotah8er on Oct 2, 2009 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions

I'm thinking it will be some sort of Bills-Garland-Padilla Mixed Salad.

If Kuroda’s not 100%, they want another guy on the roster.

by Dodger Dude on Oct 2, 2009 4:41 PM PDT reply actions

Are you talking about Game 3

If they all pitch in Game 3, who starts game 4? You have to at least begin the series with the idea of four starters.

by David Young on Oct 2, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions

Game 3 and 4

Bills and Garland will be on short leashes with Padilla as their wing man.

by Dodger Dude on Oct 2, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions

I could see something like that.

by David Young on Oct 2, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions

and Kershaw too

I doubt he’d start game 4 if he starts game 2, but he could relieve (assuming he doesn’t pitch day 1, which I think he should).

by Dodger Dude on Oct 2, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions

Whoever starts Game 2 can also start Game 5 on full rest. I really doubt the Game 2 starters pitches in Game 4 except under the most dire of situations.

by David Young on Oct 2, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions

Update above

“Kuroda has a small herniation of his cervical spine”

by Eric Stephen on Oct 2, 2009 4:45 PM PDT reply actions

For those of us who are not MDs

What the hell is that.

Doesn’t sound good. No injury with the word “spine” sounds good.

by Dodger Dude on Oct 2, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions

there are eight small vertebrae

that link the spine to the skull, with the lower ones corresponding with the extremities (hands and feet). image google ‘cervical spine’.

by stillnotah8er on Oct 2, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions

Ouch. That sounds uncomfortable.

You wanna know how great baseball is? The greatest basketball player ever left his sport to play baseball.

by Jesse S. on Oct 2, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions

That's a hell of a stiff neck

Is there some neck version of Cialis he took? For neck stiffness lasting more than four days, consult a physician.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Oct 2, 2009 4:45 PM PDT reply actions

If someone was going to have a cervical injury, I would have guessed it would be Manny.

by David Young on Oct 2, 2009 4:48 PM PDT reply actions

No, Manny's injury would be more like

“Ramirez has a small herniation of his cervix-al spine”

Due to loss of hormones

Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave

by Mondogarage on Oct 2, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions

cervical can also refer to the cervix, e.g., cervical cancer, thus my pun.

by David Young on Oct 2, 2009 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions

My pony isn't only slow...

….it’s dumb.

GL, I gotta bug out and will miss game threads everywhere tonight (visiting wife at hospital, then DJing at a club).

At least wifey and I will watch first hour of game together.

But GL, hope it’s a thriller of a game, and that we win at least the first two, to make Sunday a whole boatload of epic.

Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave

by Mondogarage on Oct 2, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions

Best wishes to your wife.

by David Young on Oct 2, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions

Thanks, it's been a long haul

102 days in ICU and counting, but she’s improving daily, at this point.

It’s odd how emotions flow. Right now, what pisses her off the most is she can’t go to next week’s home playoff games. Because she’s a Rox fan, too. ;-)

Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave

by Mondogarage on Oct 2, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions

Wow - glad to hear it's heading in the right direction. She must be tough!

Then you have a marriage made in baseball heaven. My wife is my companion to Dodger games, so I’m lucky that way too.

by David Young on Oct 2, 2009 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions

Best wishes man.

by Michael White on Oct 2, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions

LOL

by Michael White on Oct 2, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions

If this was Billingsley

There’d be crowing about his not gutting it out.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Oct 2, 2009 4:50 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs

It would be Plashcke's article tomorrow

by Michael White on Oct 2, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions

so who replaces hiro on the roster

weaver??

Lolretta?

by hirambocachica on Oct 2, 2009 4:51 PM PDT reply actions

A starter

I hadn’t ’t figured out who was out yet, maybe Haeger?

by Dodger Dude on Oct 2, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions

It ensures Garland’s spot on the roster, as a starter.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 2, 2009 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions

Hey, a mention of Haeger than isn’t by stillnotah8er! :)

by David Young on Oct 2, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions

the post-liner silence is deafening

he could be an amputee at this point, we wouldn’t know

by stillnotah8er on Oct 2, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions

Could be Weaver

by Dodger Dude on Oct 2, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions

Hard question to answer

Since we don’t know who is actually on/off the roster yet anyway; that was all pure speculation anyway. Maybe between Garland and Padilla only one was going to make it and now both will. Maybe only one makes it and, if we end up with Philly, Torre adds Elbert as an extra LHP for them.

by David Young on Oct 2, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions

I think that pretty much nails it. I can see a potential Padilla/McDonald pitch-off this weekend for the final bullpen spot or something, but I think you have it right.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 2, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions

Well, it means nothing re the weekend series

Hope he recovers…it does sound a bit serious

Watching the purple row from high atop the big brown monolith on California Ave

by Mondogarage on Oct 2, 2009 4:52 PM PDT reply actions

Which doesn't mean much

But luckily (or should I say Nedily), we took out that insurance policy and it looks like this won’t mean too much either.

I know Kuroda’s a better pitcher, but he’s 34 and Garland’s 30. Garland is more likely to outperform his stats.

by Dodger Dude on Oct 2, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions

however, he was awesome in the postseason last year

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.cgi?n1=kurodhi01&t=p&year=0&post=1

really the only bright spot vs philly. bummer, hope he heals well.

by stillnotah8er on Oct 2, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions

Yeah, its not all roses, but its not the titanic either.

by Dodger Dude on Oct 2, 2009 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions

This is not good.

by Epic Phail on Oct 2, 2009 4:56 PM PDT reply actions

interesting test

for the near-religious fixation on the 4-man rotation, especially if wolf is excellent and keeps the pitch count in the 80s.

by stillnotah8er on Oct 2, 2009 4:57 PM PDT reply actions

If Wolf is game 1 starter, he is the game 5 starter

It would be Kersh who would get the extra game with a 3 man.

That makes sense to me. Wolf – Garland for G4 sounds better than Garland – Padilla.

by Dodger Dude on Oct 2, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions

The way the schedule breaks is interesting. If needed, the game 1 starter could pitch on 3 days rest, and have the game 2 starter pitch game 5 on full rest.

Wed
Thu
Sat
Sun
Tue

Obviously it would depend on how the series played out, but the trade off would be the cost of [regular Wolf vs. 3 days rest Wolf] and the benefit of [Kershaw > Garland]

by Eric Stephen on Oct 2, 2009 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions

I'de go with 3 days for Kersh.

and have Wolf #2, I don’t want to mess up Mr. Consistency with 3 days rest.

But I guess the die is cast, unless he pitches Kersh in relief tonight and has someone else start tomorow.

by Dodger Dude on Oct 2, 2009 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions

Why would he keep the pitch count in the 80's?

If Wolf is cruising, they won’t pull him that early.

by Michael White on Oct 2, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions

you're probably right

joe has let him go past 110 more than once this year. i guess this is one of many reasons the 3-man has gone the way of the dodo…

by stillnotah8er on Oct 2, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions

oh this is fucking terrible....

my computer screen litterally went black when i saw this (no joke), then came back on…
now were going to have to use padilla or garland for no 4…bleeeeh!
or use a 3 pitcher rotation…

Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....

by shaqfor3 on Oct 2, 2009 5:05 PM PDT reply actions

Its Garland, not Padilla

by Eric Stephen on Oct 2, 2009 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions

oh

for no 4?

Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....

by shaqfor3 on Oct 2, 2009 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions

Interestingly enough

The concern with the herniation of the cervical spine is not the neck pain, though the treatment is to reduce the pain, first by anti-inflamatories, but in fact that the herniation can cause arm weakness since the nerve that is pinched runs down the entire arm.

But again I am not a doctor nor do I play one on TV

by bhsportsguy on Oct 2, 2009 5:06 PM PDT reply actions

Did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?

by Eric Stephen on Oct 2, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions

right

you can light up every square inch of the body like a christmas tree just by messing with a couple of square inches there.

by stillnotah8er on Oct 2, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions

And it is a spontaneous injury

It can happen easily from sleeping wrong or a sudden movement. Primarily between adults 30-50

by bhsportsguy on Oct 2, 2009 5:07 PM PDT reply actions

For more information

And I make no guarantees about its accuracy

http://bit.ly/2qJBTG

by bhsportsguy on Oct 2, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions

Yeah, but it sounds like it happened to him before the Pirates

There really is no other logical explaination to the PIrates getting so many runs.

by Dodger Dude on Oct 2, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions

the liner to the head probably didn't help

by stillnotah8er on Oct 2, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions

i dont like the idea of garland in this rotation...

yes hes got experience with the postseason
but really he has not pitched that great at all this season
he gives up a ton of hits and has struggled against mediocre teams (padres, pirates)
but i guess weve got no choice at this point cause kuroda is done for the NLDS
this sucks…

Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....

by shaqfor3 on Oct 2, 2009 5:11 PM PDT reply actions

Sounds like they pump him full of meds and hope for the best

This could be further than the NLDS.

The only good part of what I read was the part about epidural injections. Just inject his spine till he’s ready to go against Phillie.

by Dodger Dude on Oct 2, 2009 5:14 PM PDT reply actions

From the Dodger Thoughts comments:

FWIW, Padilla will start Sunday.

Posted by: Alex41592 | October 02, 2009 at 05:06 PM

by David Young on Oct 2, 2009 5:17 PM PDT reply actions

and a week from sunday as well?

i guess that will be an audition for the 4-spot… yikes

by stillnotah8er on Oct 2, 2009 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions

Is that a threat?

by Dodger Dude on Oct 2, 2009 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions

Confirmed with Phil…added above

by Eric Stephen on Oct 2, 2009 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions

From Gurnick’s blog:

Torre said Vicente Padilla will start Sunday’s regular-season finale and will be considered for the starting rotation for the first round of playoffs. He said Chad Billingsley and Jon Garland remain in the mix for the four starters and no decision on who joins Randy Wolf and Clayton Kershaw will be made until an opponent is determined.

by David Young on Oct 2, 2009 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions

This makes me suspicious of Ben Maller’s tweet.

by David Young on Oct 2, 2009 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions

Agreed

by Eric Stephen on Oct 2, 2009 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions

You may be updating this post quite a bit.

by David Young on Oct 2, 2009 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions

If they are all righties

Why does opponent matter?

by Dodger Dude on Oct 2, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions

Hmmm

Sounds like Padilla is just Sunday filler and Joe is going to use whoever has the better numbers for games 3 and 4.

by Dodger Dude on Oct 2, 2009 5:26 PM PDT reply actions

Okay time for a celebration

The press clubs seems to have more visiting team media so my blog spot was taken over, so I stole a Visiting Press spot. We shall see if I get to keep it. There was three open spots and now there are zero.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 2, 2009 5:33 PM PDT reply actions

Sweet

by Eric Stephen on Oct 2, 2009 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions

hmmm, who took your spot? Did they just “take” it, or asked?
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Oct 2, 2009 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions

The “blog spot” denotation was removed from our usual seat as of 2 weeks ago.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 2, 2009 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions

So the “blogspot” is gone now? How do you get in?
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Oct 2, 2009 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions

The spot in the press box (front row, all the way to the left by the cameras) used to be marked “Dodgers blog spot” on a piece of paper that was heavily taped down. That only indicated where we sat. There are various open spots (well, a few) that are available too.

We get in with a daily credential.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 2, 2009 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions

Ok. I guess my question is, are you still gauranteed a seat in the press box? Or is it first come first serve? What is the SOP now vs before?
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Oct 2, 2009 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions

If there is no seat, most likely we would sit in the cafeteria (directly behind it…no view of the game other than on TV)

by Eric Stephen on Oct 2, 2009 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions

Almost all of the spots are marked. LA Times, Press Enterprise, Daily News all have spots. Ken & Josh are in the second row behind where we sit. Visiting team has a few spots in the first ro, kind of next to the bog spot. There are marked locations for 710 ESPN, KNBC, MLB.com, and a bunch of others too.

If I had to guess, I would say there are about 50-60 seats in the press box, and probably 45 are marked. Rough estimate.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 2, 2009 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions

So, now you guys just grab an unmarked one and hope for the best?
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Oct 2, 2009 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions

Today sounds like the first game it was a problem. I did the Sunday game on September 20 and even though my spot wasn’t marked it was fine because nobody was there.

I figure I will be fine on Sunday even if it is crowded because I always get there right at 9am (when th credentials are delivered to the security gate) so I’ll be able to claim my spot.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 2, 2009 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions

I’ll try to do a seating chart when I’m there Sunday (seriously)

by Eric Stephen on Oct 2, 2009 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions

I wonder what % of games the blog spot was filled.

by David Young on Oct 2, 2009 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions

Or, what % of games there was a blogger in the press box?
If it was too low, would they pull the plug on the idea for next season?

by David Young on Oct 2, 2009 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions

Sunday had 100% participation

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 2, 2009 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions

It was gone with a notebook

since there is no denoation anymore it is pretty much open territory.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 2, 2009 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions

I know there’s no rooting in the press box. What about in the clubhouse, post-game?

by David Young on Oct 2, 2009 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions

If we are winning by ninth

I’m leaving the press box and headed to the field seats. I’ll be damned if I’ll sit on my hands when Andre hits a division winning walk off.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 2, 2009 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions

of course...

if we’re winning in the 9th it won’t be a walkoff…

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Oct 2, 2009 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions

Right! Not unless we blow the lead then he hits the walk off.
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Oct 2, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions

This made me laugh.

by David Young on Oct 2, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions

Lineups yet?
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Oct 2, 2009 5:33 PM PDT reply actions

Where have you been? :)

Rockies
Gonzalez LF
Fowler CF
Helton 1B
Tulo SS
Atkins 3B
Torrealba C
Spliborghs RF
Barmes 2B
Ubaldo P

Dodgers
Furcal SS
Ethier RF
Manny LF
Kemp CF
Loney 1B
Blake 3B
Martin C
Hudson 2B
Wolf P

by Eric Stephen on Oct 2, 2009 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions

Thanks

I quickly breezed thru this thread and didn’t see em. My bad. :)
Gonna resim.
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Oct 2, 2009 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions

It’s my bad…we had them in the other massive thread, but I didn’t repost with this news.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 2, 2009 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions

The Torre

pre game interview was subdued and crowded and I heard a lot of jumbled answers to questions. Several minutes into the interview he stopped and met with Josh and then came back with the Kuroda news. He had already announced that Padilla would start on Sunday but I missed that and was unable to follow up since I didn’t know it until after the conference was over.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 2, 2009 5:34 PM PDT reply actions

Furcal
Andre
Manny
Kemp
Loney
Blake
Martin
Hudson

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 2, 2009 5:35 PM PDT reply actions

I expect that to be the playoff lineup.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 2, 2009 5:35 PM PDT reply actions

Ask one of the visiting guys next to you if Coors sucks

and see if they blow up.

by Dodger Dude on Oct 2, 2009 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions

I come home to read this?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO <——- This is before I read the alternatives, which I will read now.

by PHAT JULIO on Oct 2, 2009 5:41 PM PDT reply actions

in happier news

florida is up 4-2 over fat joe, who has pitched 105 in 6…

the cards are winning.

looks like the twinkies are 90% likely to cut the tigres down to 1.

by stillnotah8er on Oct 2, 2009 5:46 PM PDT reply actions

yesss go fish!!

Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....

by shaqfor3 on Oct 2, 2009 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions

Is it just me

or is it completely bad ass that you guys get credentialed? Free Dodgers games in perpetuity…

"Don't tell me about the world. Not today. It's springtime and they're knocking baseballs around fields where the grass is damp and green in the morning and the kids are trying to hit the curve ball." -Pete Hamill

by Bryce on Oct 2, 2009 5:49 PM PDT reply actions

It isn’t just you! It is amazing.

We are out for the playoffs

by Eric Stephen on Oct 2, 2009 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions

You mean you won't get access come playoff time?

Too much other media?

by Bryce on Oct 2, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions

Yep…too much other media, and MLB controls the credentialing for the playoffs, instead of the Dodgers. Dodgers are more open to it, but it’s out of their hands (although they might like that MLB can play bad cop in this case).

During the season, it’s free publicity for the team because if a press box spot would be empty anyway, why not fill it with someone who cares enough to write about them. I applaud them for doing so (and not just for selfish reasons).

by Eric Stephen on Oct 2, 2009 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions

You do know that they can’t root and cheer in the press box though. It’s torturous for poor Phil.

by David Young on Oct 2, 2009 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions

True, true.

But still, how validating to the whole site.

by Bryce on Oct 2, 2009 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions

Oh, absolutely.

It’s actually very progressive thinking on the Dodger’s part as well.

by David Young on Oct 2, 2009 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions

I almost slipped up when Kemp hit the 8th inning HR against the Astros to put them up 4-3.

And in my first game, against the Angels, I actually cheered after one of the Dodger hits. It was involuntary. Nobody said anything (it was a quick clap and a “yeah!”) though.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 2, 2009 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions

But, I’m also 3-6 in the press box. Phil is undefeated, to date.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 2, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions

That's good!

How many games?

by PHAT JULIO on Oct 2, 2009 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions

Only 3 - 0

but I’m putting it all on the line tonight.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 2, 2009 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions

Sounds like a long series sweep

by PHAT JULIO on Oct 2, 2009 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions

Torre said Kuroda felt the pain in his neck when he was jogging the other day. After the Pittsburgh start.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 2, 2009 5:51 PM PDT reply actions

That was a bad road trip all around

Pain in neck while jobbing is code for “that was a position I’d never tried before and don’t think I’ll try again”

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 2, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions

Keep digging Phil

These are the types of stories that are under reported

by Dodger Dude on Oct 2, 2009 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions

if we play the phiillliesin the first round.... kuroda willl be missed BIG TIME

but if we play the cardinals i think we can live without him for the first round…

by matthewmafa on Oct 2, 2009 5:58 PM PDT reply actions

We will miss a healthy Kuroda

if that means Garland or Padilla get a start. No way to sugar coat it, losing Kuroda hurts when you look at the alternatives.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 2, 2009 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions

Kuroda's Neck

I have had similar trouble with my neck in the past, and it is really painful. I tried everything, anti-inflammatories, muscle relaxers, pain killers, even steroids – nothing worked.

What works? Traction. I got a contraption that hangs from the top of a door, puts your head in a sling and hangs weight off the other end of a pulley – pulling your head away from your shoulders. Spinal decompression, it is sometimes called. That works, and fast. Yet most doctors don’t seem to know about it.

I hope the Dodgers training staff knows about this.

by Doug Minnick on Oct 2, 2009 6:04 PM PDT reply actions

Thome had him by the ankles and was shaking him around

that is the low budget fix.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 2, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions

i do this for a friend

who wrecked her neck as a kid by playing too much violin – basically pull the head straight off of the shoulders. odd, but it works.

by stillnotah8er on Oct 2, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions

…and Kuroda should stop running immediately. It just jams the vertebrae down onto the herniation, making it worse.

We need you, Hiro!

by Doug Minnick on Oct 2, 2009 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions

Big Fail by Edwin Jackson tonight

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 2, 2009 6:05 PM PDT reply actions

Even though the Padres got a decent return for Peavy I’m glad he’s out of the NL West.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 2, 2009 6:06 PM PDT reply actions

I wouldnt mind him on LA (:

by SeanMillerSavior on Oct 2, 2009 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions

nice chance to drop the hammer on eyre

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2009_10_02_flomlb_phimlb_1

by stillnotah8er on Oct 2, 2009 6:07 PM PDT reply actions

CC gets hammered before his next playoff start.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 2, 2009 6:09 PM PDT reply actions

Garland as our 4th starter

Not too estastic on that. The news on Hiro really bummed me out. Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Anyway, he’ll have to make due, even if we make it game 4. I kinda want a 3 man system at this point, but increasing Kershaw’s innings just flat out scares me.

by PHAT JULIO on Oct 2, 2009 6:12 PM PDT reply actions

It's not the worst thing in the world if he's facing another #4

which he will be due to how the series is scheduled.

by oshea2002 on Oct 2, 2009 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions

Anyone read the article on Ted Williams' head?

Just bizarre all around

by PHAT JULIO on Oct 2, 2009 6:14 PM PDT reply actions

New news on an old story?

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 2, 2009 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions

Yeah, well

New book about how the company who preserved it mishandled his head.

by PHAT JULIO on Oct 2, 2009 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions

No surprise

the cyrogentics history is full of bungled bodies. They use to have a place in Chatsworth, one of the hottest places in California, It was buried into a hill and of course the air conditioning failed and they had no secondary systems because they were running the thing on a shoestring. Needless to say future improvements in the medical world are not going to be bringing those people back to life.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 2, 2009 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions

Larry Johnson says in the book “Frozen: My Journey Into the World of Cryonics, Deception and Death” that he watched an Alcor(preservation company) official swing a monkey wrench at Williams’ frozen severed head to try to remove a tuna can stuck to it.

by PHAT JULIO on Oct 2, 2009 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions

amazing guy

not just the best hitter of his day, also the best fly-fisher and fighter pilot.

by stillnotah8er on Oct 2, 2009 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions

Any news on Belliard and Blake?

by SeanMillerSavior on Oct 2, 2009 6:25 PM PDT reply actions

Blake if playing and Belliard is available

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 2, 2009 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions

I only want Garland starting a game 4 if it's in St. Louis

or at home. I’m not sure I want him pitching in Philly, he can’t strike anyone out and not sure I’m ecstatic about that in that park.

by oshea2002 on Oct 2, 2009 6:38 PM PDT reply actions

Can you smell it.....?

by desecrator09 on Oct 2, 2009 6:40 PM PDT reply actions

Tommy Lasorda to 10 moments

10. HOF speech

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 2, 2009 6:41 PM PDT reply actions

9. Pulling Doug Rau in the ’77 Series?

by oshea2002 on Oct 2, 2009 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions

8. Giving Orosco hell

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 2, 2009 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions

7. Falling down in the All Star game

by oshea2002 on Oct 2, 2009 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions

6. “Fuck Bob Costas!”

by Eric Stephen on Oct 2, 2009 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions

Fuck Dave Kingman and Rick Sutcliffe

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 2, 2009 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions

4. Any time he would walk from the bullpen in SF to the dugout, and acknowledge the crowd’s booing.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 2, 2009 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions

3. Bevaqua

And I guaran-fucking-tee you this, when I pitched and I was gonna pitch against a fucking team that had guys on it like Bevacqua, I’d send a fucking limosine to get the fucking to make sure he was in the motherfucking lineup because I’d kick that fucker’s ass any fucking day of the week. He’s a fucking motherfucking bigmouth, I’ll tell you that.

by oshea2002 on Oct 2, 2009 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions

I just love the way he said “Bevacqua”

by Eric Stephen on Oct 2, 2009 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions

I’m not sure I could say it myself any more condescending then he does

by oshea2002 on Oct 2, 2009 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions

who couldn’t hit water if he fell out of a fucking boat

by oshea2002 on Oct 2, 2009 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions

1. “Nobody thought we could beat the Mighty Mets. Nobody thought we could beat the team that won 104 games. BUT WE BELIEVED IT!!!!!”

by Eric Stephen on Oct 2, 2009 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions

Tonight I bleed blue for Tommy

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 2, 2009 6:42 PM PDT reply actions

I wish one of our guys could go on 3 days rest

Wolf?

B/c if so – the game 2 starter could pitch game 5 on full rest, enabling us to use only 3 starters.

by oshea2002 on Oct 2, 2009 6:42 PM PDT reply actions

BJ Upton hits for the cycle

by oshea2002 on Oct 2, 2009 6:43 PM PDT reply actions

Did it in 5 innings

by oshea2002 on Oct 2, 2009 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions

They are getting all their frustrations out in one game

I laugh when I keep hearing low market teams can’t compete with the Yankee’s with the Rays only one year removed from the World Series and the expecations they can fight the Beasts of the East over the next few years.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 2, 2009 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions

PIERRE WINS FOURTH ANNUAL

ROY CAMPANELLA AWARD

Outfielder voted "Most Inspirational Dodger" by his teammates and coaches

LOS ANGELES – The Los Angeles Dodgers announced today that outfielder Juan Pierre was named the winner of the fourth annual Roy Campanella Award, which is given to the Dodger player who best exemplifies the spirit and leadership of the late Hall of Fame catcher. The award, which was voted upon by Dodger uniform personnel, will be presented to Pierre by Campanella’s daughter, Joni Campanella Roan during a pregame ceremony prior to tomorrow night’s contest against the Colorado Rockies. Dodger shortstop Rafael Furcal received the inaugural award in 2006, Dodger catcher Russell Martin won it in 2007, and first baseman James Loney took home the honor last season.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 2, 2009 6:48 PM PDT reply actions

This really says something for Juan

given that ii is a vote of his peers. Felt that Hudson was a lock for it this year.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 2, 2009 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions

yeahhh

he was the leader… then something wierd happened… and i still dont understand..

by matthewmafa on Oct 2, 2009 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions

Kind of like his peers calling BS

on that whole he’s a whiner thing everyone was giving him hell for last year.

Juan has been an incredible player this year within his role as #4 Outfielder.

by Dodger Dude on Oct 2, 2009 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions

His attitude has definitely improved over last year

by Eric Stephen on Oct 2, 2009 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions

i would have gaave it to billingsley

or kuroda

by matthewmafa on Oct 2, 2009 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions

Inspired by the comments today

tonight’s beers of choice for me at both by New Belgium brewery (makers of Fat Tire):

Having the seasonal “Hoptober” right now for the first time, and will have Mothership Wit later as well.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 2, 2009 6:53 PM PDT reply actions

I must have missed beer talk

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 2, 2009 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions

Just don't bring up Coors

by Dodger Dude on Oct 2, 2009 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions

Hey Garret Gould

is getting introduced before the game.

Looks good in a Dodger hat.

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 2, 2009 6:56 PM PDT reply actions

Just shook hands with Frank McCourt

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 2, 2009 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions

You putting up a game thread?

by Eric Stephen on Oct 2, 2009 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions

Lyons is speculating that Chad may not make the postseason roster

because Padlla is starting Sunday.

The man is a buffoon.

by Michael White on Oct 2, 2009 6:57 PM PDT reply actions

by Phil Gurnee on Oct 2, 2009 7:00 PM PDT reply actions

He has been to fewer games than I have. I call bullshit.

by Eric Stephen on Oct 2, 2009 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions

they actually do a prop bet on the superbowl NA length on bodog

a little tasteless IMO

by stillnotah8er on Oct 2, 2009 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions

Time for Tommy Congratulations

Bowa, Honeycut, the Mayor, Wills, King, Garvey(talking for a long time),

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 2, 2009 7:03 PM PDT reply actions

No cheering in the press box

nice ovation from fans

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by Phil Gurnee on Oct 2, 2009 7:03 PM PDT reply actions

GOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! DODGERS, SEE U WEDNESDAY CARDS FANS.ESPECIALY THE FANS FROM HENDERSON NV,YA U KNOW WHO I"AM TALKING TOO!!!!!!!!!!MONKEY

by ED DOG #1 on Oct 3, 2009 11:22 PM PDT reply actions

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Pos	No	Player	2012 Salary
C	17	Ellis	$490,000
1B	7	Loney	$6,375,000
2B	37	Herrera	$375,082
3B	6	Hairston	$2,250,000
SS	9	Gordon	$485,000
LF	23	Abreu	$401,311
CF	10	Gwynn	$850,000
RF	16	Ethier	$10,950,000

OF/1B	33	Van Slyke	$388,197
2B/3B	3	Kennedy	$800,000
OF/1B	30	Sands	$375,175
IF	13	DeJesus	$448,992
C	18	Treanor	$850,000

SP	22	Kershaw	$6,000,000
SP	58	Billingsley	$9,000,000
SP	29	Lilly	$12,000,000
SP	44	Harang	$3,000,000
SP	35	Capuano	$3,000,000

CL	74	Jansen	$491,000
RHP	52	Lindblom	$483,000
RHP	51	Belisario	$414,426
RHP	54	Guerra	$488,000
RHP	28	Wright	$900,000
LHP	57	Elbert	$488,500
RHP	60	Coffey	$1,000,000

DL	27	Kemp	$10,000,000
DL	21	Rivera	$4,000,000
DL	12	Sellers	$481,000
DL	5	Uribe	$8,000,000
DL	55	Guerrier	$4,750,000
DL	14	Ellis	$2,500,000
60DL	36	Hawksworth	$495,000
60DL	41	De La Rosa	$485,000

AA	50	Eovaldi	$7,885
AAA	56	Antonini	$7,869

		Manny	$8,087,432	deferred
		Andruw	$3,375,000	deferred
		Pierre	$3,050,000	deferred
		Furcal	$3,000,000	deferred
		Kuroda	$2,000,000	deferred
		Garland	$1,500,000	option buyout
		Blake	$1,250,000	option buyout
DFA	66	MacDougal	$650,000

Totals			$115,942,869
For more detailed information, click here.
Current 40-man roster count: 42 (incl. De La Rosa & Hawksworth)

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