Dodgers Look To Padilla To Extend Season
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2009 9:23 AM PDT
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PrintRandy Wolf. Clayton Kershaw. Chad Billingsley. Hiroki Kuroda. Jon Garland.
None of these starting pitchers will be making their third start this postseason today. That honor falls to Vicente Padilla, who has pitched like an ace so far this October.
Padilla sure picked a great time to have his best two starts as a Dodger. Padilla has allowed one run in 14.1 innings over his two playoff starts so far, and the Dodgers are hoping he can give them yet another strong start. Burt Hooton is the only Dodger ever with three straight postseason starts allowing one run or fewer in seven or more innings, turning the trick in 1981.
Cole Hamels started last year's Game 5, allowing just one run over seven innings as the Phillies won their pennant at Dodger Stadium. The Dodgers of course can't return the favor tonight, but the very least they can do is to assure that the 2009 NL pennant will be won at Dodger Stadium too.
Andre Ethier is the only Dodger starter with an OPS above .783 this postseason:
| Player | XBH | BA/OBP/SLG | OPS |
| Ethier | 6 | .333/.419/.741 | 1.160 |
| Manny | 4 | .276/.300/.483 | .783 |
| Loney | 1 | .308/.357/.423 | .780 |
| Martin | 1 | .238/.407/.286 | .693 |
| Belliard | 0 | .308/.379/.308 | .687 |
| Furcal | 1 | .286/.313/.357 | .670 |
| Kemp | 2 | .200/.226/.400 | .626 |
| Blake | 0 | .192/.250/.192 | .442 |
| Starters | 15 | .268/.331/.404 | .734 |
The Dodgers need production from the offense if they want to play at home on Friday and/or Saturday.
Here's a brief look at the Dodgers' history when down 3-1 in the postseason:
- 1916: Ernie Shore of the Red Sox threw a 3-hit CG to win 4-1, giving Boston it's fourth championship
- 1941: One game after being stunned in the 9th inning (sound familiar?) by a strike 3 passed ball by Mickey Owen, leading to a four-run rally, the Dodgers fell to the Yankees 3-1 behind a CG by Tiny Bonham and a HR by Tommy Henrich
- 1949: The Dodgers fell 10-6 to the Yankees to lose their third series to the Yankees in nine years.
- 1974: After three straight 3-2 games, the Dodgers must have been confused by the 5-2 defeat to the A's in Game 4, as they fell in Game 5 by yet another 3-2 score
- 1977: Trailing the Yankees 3-1, the Dodgers finally pulled one out, scoring a 10-4 win at Dodger Stadium by limiting Reggie Jackson to just one home run. Jackson, however, had the last laugh, hitting three bombs in Game 6, cementing his status as Mr. October and denying the Dodgers a championship.
- 2008: Last season's NLCS Game 5 was dominated by Cole Hamels, who allowed just one run over seven innings. The Phillies managed a few early runs, knocking out Chad Billingsley early, and the Phillies won their first pennant in
2515 years.
So that's six times the Dodgers were down 3-1, and they forced a Game 6 just once. However, the Dodgers did win three straight in the 1981 NLDS after falling behind 0-2 in the best-of-five series.
There is only one option tonight. Win.
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Check out Xeifrank's simulation of today's game here.
Game Time: 5:07pm
TV: TBS (Chip Caray, Ron Darling, Buck Martinez)
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"The difference between the impossible and the possible lies in a man's determination." Tommy
Man, I hope we’re determined to win.
Go Dodgers!!
Phils won their first pennant in 15 years, not 25
The 90’s weren’t all bad . . .
by groovyjazztime on Oct 21, 2009 10:17 AM PDT reply actions
Oh jeez. Can’t believe I missed that one.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Here's a 2010 Top 100 prospects list
Found this on a random search. Here’s how the Dodger prospects fared:
32. Chris Withrow
36. Dee Gordon
74. Ethan Martin
Are you completely discounting experience pitching in college?
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah! Don’t be dissin my alma mater like that!
“Hail Montezuma
We with loyal hearts our homeage pay:
Proud working and glorying,
In the spirit of the Aztec name.
To thee, San Diego …”
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 21, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm wondering if Torre is gonna give a pre-game pep talk
Or Mattingly.
What does one say at such a moment ?!?
“Some of you may know that I’m a native New Yorker. That’s where I first started enjoying Bigelow Green Tea.”
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Then Torre stops briefly and yells, “Manny! Get out of the shower right now! I can hardly hear over the water noise.. Now where was I? Right, thanks Loretta, Bigelow Green Tea, it’s the right thing to do. Now get out there and win!”
by RawhideBlue on Oct 21, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
“Shoots, bros! There’s some tasty breaks by the jetty today, groms, and we’re gonna shoot the barrels and spray some roosters! Now lets go grab our sticks and outfox those curls with our crazy antics! Why? ‘Cuz we’re from Cali!!!!”
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 21, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
What Ned Colletti will be facing this Winter:
Possible long-term deals for arbitration-eligible players will be considered on a “case-by-case basis.” Russell Martin, Andre Ethier, George Sherrill, Jonathan Broxton, Chad Billingsley, Matt Kemp, and James Loney are among Colletti’s arbitration cases this winter. Which would you lock up?
Of that list I would only consider locking up
Kemp and Billingsley.
Not on that list but who I would look to lock up is Kershaw.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Not Ethier?
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 21, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
No
We’ve already got Ethier locked up for 2 more years (via arbitration) so his first oppurtunity to enter the FA market will be his age 30 season. At this point, the Dodgers will almost certainly have already employed Ethier for his peak years, yet in order to entice him to stay, you will be paying much more for the years where he will begin to decline. If he keeps performing, some team will overpay him.
As opposed to Kemp, where (according to the contract Silverwidow proposes below) will allow the Dodgers to keep Kemp through his age 30 season and allow him to perform for the Dodgers during his peak years.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
We even get to keep Ethier for one more season, through 2012.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Good stuff. It’s hard to disagree when you lay out the facts like that
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 21, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d make Kemp priority #1.
Kemp (6 yr/$60M):
2010 (4 million)
2011 (7 million)
2012 (10 million)
2013* (12 million)
2014* (13 million)
2015* (14 million)
*Denotes buyout of FA years
by silverwidow on Oct 21, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
No
He only had 104 or so days during his rookie year. Super Two’s generally are at 125+ days.
by silverwidow on Oct 21, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe I'm confused
but I thought that if he was a Super 2 he would be eligible for arb next year.
Since he’s not a super 2, he will have to wait another year before being arb eligible.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I've read that
Players who enter super 2 status, you need to have between 2-3 years of service time and 86 days before. So I guess he isn’t eligable for arb till 2011.
After 2011 season
For Kershaw
last year the cutoff was 129 days. This year it is 141. Mark Reynolds (2.138) just missed.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2009 12:41 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Have to be in top 17% in service time among 2-3 yr guys AND have at least 86 days the season prior.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2009 12:50 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Ah
being in a certain percent of players in service time explains why it is a moving target (year to year.)
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Kemp, Ethier, Billingsley
I’d want to lock up both outfielders. I’d expect Kemp would get something comparable to Nick Markakis (6 yrs, $66M, but maybe a little closer to silverwidow’s projection), and Ethier would get something like 4 years, $37M.
Billingsley’s tougher to say. Probably 4 years, $30M ish.
We’ll be dropping payroll from Schmidt (finally), but I don’t see any major acquisitions coming.
by StolenMonkey86 on Oct 21, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Kemp, Billingsley, and Ethier
Need to get extensions right away in the offseason, there shouldn’t even be a discussion. Give Martin a year before considering any kind of extension. Even think about an extension for Kershaw right now, he will only be getting more expensive as time goes on.
I would think about deals like this:
Kemp – 6 years 35 to 40 million
Billingsley – 6 years 28 million
Ethier – 5 years 30 million
Ok, I think I low balled all of them, lol.
Ethier 5 years 40 million
Billingsley 6 years 42 million
Idk why, but i had Billingsley around there before but I changed it before I posted.
Uhm ... no
the whole point of having a player cost controlled is so that you do not have to pay them as much as if they were a FA.
by Seanny Rotten on Oct 21, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
“When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, looks you crooked in the eye and asks you if you paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol’ Jack Burton always says at a time like that: ‘Have you paid your dues, Jack? Yessir, the check is in the mail.’”
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 21, 2009 11:22 AM PDT reply actions
Fight Till the End
The Padilla Flotilla is in full effect tonight.
ESPN's first headline
“Pryor’s HS coach: Ohio St. could use him better "
Yup, this is your world-wide leader in sports
ESPN Insider Rumors
Also links Beltre to Dodgers as FA this offseason. I wonder how many yrs/millions he gets from someone this year.
Do they say what the Dodgers would do with the remaining two years with Blake’s Beard?
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 21, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Why would the Dodgers pick up Beltre?
Blake still has 2 years left on his deal.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
jinx
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 21, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Ignore Beltre's 2004 season
Beltre’s 2004 season sure looks like a ’roids year to me.
Normalize his stats for that year. Doesn’t Blake have better #’s?
Ignoring defense
which as lvdown alluded to, is an important part of the equation, here are their neutralized stats from 2005-2009
Blake: .268/.340/.455
Beltre: .265/.316/.440
Scroll to the bottom of each page on Baseball-Reference:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/blakeca01-bat.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/beltrad01-bat.shtml
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
why does casey suck so much in the 2nd half??
maybe he needs rest??
well no because he got plenty of rest this season…
what could it be??
we need him in the postseeason.. he is the glue that holds this team together
Offensive old 3rd baseman
were not very common in baseball before the steroid era and I don’t expect them to be very common in the post steroid era.
The weird thing is that he did get rest:
1st 81 games: 76g, 69 starts, .287/.358/.490
2nd 81 games: 63g, 62 starts, .272/.370/.442
I think the hamstring rest helped him in the end, because in part time duty in September/October he hit .362/.474/.553
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
maybe trade a little OBP for some more power, but overall, basically same OPS
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
so why is he sucking so bad in october baseball again
besides SSS
he has rest… he should be really good..
Baseball is a difficult game
and players go through fluctuations in their performance all the time.
And as Phil mentioned, he’s old.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
You can’t expect everyone to hit their regular season numbers.
All of the teams we will play in the post season have good to outstanding pitching.
I think the problem has been we are pitching like an average club and the Phils are hitting.
It will be tough against Hamels
but Blake needs to turn around his 0 for 6 (with two popouts and two K) against LHP this series (Hamels and Lee).
On the season Blake hit .320/.442/.563 against LHP
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Using Fangraphs
and Wins Above Replacement:
Year: Beltre / Blake
2005: 2.5 / 1.8
2006: 4.6 / 1.6
2007: 3.0 / 2.1
2008: 4.1 / 2.5
2009: 2.3 / 4.3
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
This stat would be the best explaination
Age Beltre / Blake
2009: 30/36
2010: 31/37*
2011: 32/38
2012: 33/39**
2013: 34/40
2014: 35/41***
2015: 36/42
1*Over-the-Hill
2** Through-the-Woods
3*** Off-the-cliff
i really really realllllyy doubt that beltre is really
30 yeas old right now…
he may be somewerre closer to 34 then 30
Could be, Makes you seem better to be Younger Rght.
I don’t think you could shave more than a year or two off though at 17-18, it would be too obvious.
if only beltre can stay healthy
though no one should expect a year like 2004 again hehe
he shoulda won NL MVP that year…stupid Bonds…
Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....
let me clarify that they link him to both LA Teams because “he still lives here.” If that is not the best reason, I do not know what is.
he lives in Pasadena i believe
Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....
Per Jon Heyman (So don't take it seriously)
SI_JonHeyman hearing matt holliday has #yanks first on his free-agent list, followed by #dodgers, #angels and #mets.
I’m pretty sure he was the first to say that Bubble Boy was just a publicity stunt. And I think he was the first to declare that Taro Aso had lost the election…
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 21, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
So was fat PHAT JULIO taken on MLBTR? : )
by NotJoeTorre on Oct 21, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut...
Good news for you Kim Ng fans.
Per mlbtraderumors
Both MLB.com’s Corey Brock and ESPN’s Buster Olney are reporting that San Diego is moving closer to naming Boston Assistant General Manager Jed Hoyer as their next General Manager.
The only way we could even go after Holliday is if Manny decides he doesn’t like money anymore.
What kind of deal will Holliday be getting now? I’m still thinking 100 mill after how he did with the cards.
Didn't his agent say that the Texeira deal was a good idea of what Holliday is expecting?
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I bet he doesn't come close to Teixeira
money after his stay in Oakland. I’m glad Manny is here for one more year because I have zero interest in Holliday.
Me too
and the Manny contract is weird. He almost certainly won’t be worth $20 million (or whatever the present value of his contract is…maybe $17-18m or so), but if he opts out I don’t think they use that money for an upgrade anyway, so it will be good to have him back.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
We can win!!
The dodgers are capable of winning the series. They have the pitching and the offense.. they just need to step up. I know they can win and I have faith. So GO DODGERS! Win this for us…and if not for us.. then just because no one wants to see the phillies go to the WS again haha.
A movie script ending
I must say we really owe Cole Hamels a beat down. We were able to get 8 hits and 4 runs off of him in Game 1, tonight we can do it.
All I’m saying is this, the series gets back to L.A., we beat Pedro and in Game 7 Cliff Lee is his usual brilliant self. But he is matched by Dodger pitching and Manuel pulls him for a pinch-hitter in the ninth. So with the score tied 0-0 in the bottom of the ninth, who should step up to the plate but Endre Ethier. Brad Lidge returns to form and as the ball disappears into the L.A. night, Vin Scully shouts “she is gone!” and we are headed to the World Series.
Ya gotta believe.
by RandallP on Oct 21, 2009 12:54 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I’m fairly certain Lee would pitch Game 6. He’d be on full rest, and would also be able to pitch in Game 1 of the WS on full rest next Wednesday (if necessary of course).
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Or it’s because he and Chip Caray decided to hop on a plane together and elope
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 21, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nelly (GA)
Dee Gordon or Eric Young, Jr.? I’m curious to hear whether you say they’re the same guy more or less and that you’d just take the SS (Both as an indictment of Young’s PT and power and as a measure of Gordon at SS).
Jim Callis
(2:19 PM)
I would take Gordon because I’m not convinced Young can stay in the infield. Gordon isn’t a lock to stay at shortstop but I think he’ll figure it out.
Clearly just 5 & 7
but he will provide 5.2 innings of scoreless relief in Game 6
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I think so
Kuroda and Bills are available, but I believe mountains would have to be moved for them to start a game.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm surprised Kuroda wasn't de-activated
as injured and Weaver added to the roster.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
If they did that, Kuroda wouldn’t be eligible for the World Series. Maybe they wanted to keep their options open.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree.
I mean … he is not even close to the pitcher he was in last year’s NLCS or this year when he was healthy. He’s a completely different person. Who cares if he can’t pitch in the WS, at this point Garland’s a better option.
by Seanny Rotten on Oct 21, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree too. In fact, I would even put a certain other pitcher above Garland on the starter depth chart.
Rhymes with Chillingsbey.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I almost chose “hitless” but didn’t want to be too greedy
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Per ESPN Insider
Colletti said he’s planning on stepping up the Dodgers’ international scouting efforts, and even hinted that he’s open to long-term deals for a certain few of the club’s young stars.
That’s a good thing, too, because the Dodgers have a slew of young players that are eligible for arbitration, including most of their core talent.
Lineups
Dodgers
Furcal SS
Belliard 2B
Ethier RF
Manny LF
Kemp CF
Loney 1B
Martin C
Blake 3B
Padilla P
Phillies (same all 9 games so far in playoffs)
Rollins SS
Victorino CF
Utley 2B
Howard 1B
Werth RF
Ibanez LF
Feliz 3B
Ruiz C
Hamels P
Trying to recapture some of the magic from Sunday night???
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Kevin Lewis and I went up to visit the Stephens boys about 30 minutes before first pitch of Game two, but your seats were empty. We did get beads put around our neck by pretty girls pimping the Budweiser “garden” there though. Really cheap beads though, left blue on my Kemp jersey! Came out in the wash though.
Ah crap…yeah, we were stuck in traffic getting there, and were in line for beer soda when the Backstreet Boys were singing the national anthem.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
or the mysterious Greg, who also sported the beads. You guys would have totally bonded. :)
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Ahhh…you must have missed the autograph booth!
Sorry I missed you as well…
by KellyStephen on Oct 21, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Color me confused, as well
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 21, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Because Joe Torre is a genius
who has been in the postseason before.
That’s why the Dodgers had a coaching advantage over the Phillies.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
This lineup actually got to Hamels in game 1.
R Furcal SS
A Ethier RF
M Ramirez LF
M Kemp CF
C Blake 3B
J Loney 1B
R Belliard 2B
R Martin C
yeah
put the 2 lowest on base percent guys in your lineup in front of ethier and manny..
and we wonder why ethier has gone through this Whole preseason with only 2 at bats with a RISP
3 hours till game time, not going to get much more work done with TBLA open in the browser
Starting to get a little excited, sure would be nice to get a couple in the first!!!
I'm going to miss the first hour
gotta hold down the fort and maybe Loney will greet me with another walk-in-the-door RBI!
Hey Padilla
No more hanging breaking balls to guys that names are ‘Ryan Howard’, ok? Everything else you do is quite fine.
I thought he was just suspended.
I don’t want to use up all my good luck for the day on Phillips. I’d like to save some for the Dodgers
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
As Jack said on Dodger Thoughts, rather brilliantly, this is yet another case of Steve Phillips not being able to judge talent. :)
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
does anyone know why??
im interested to know why…
the general thinking is that intercourse is good?
by delias man on Oct 21, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Probably exceptional
with interns who think you are Godlike instead of wives who know you are a douche.
i meant why was he out
now i have found out it was an affair…
if only we can get there
Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....
ESPN's steve phillips in hot water
cause of an affair with an intern…
Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....
I hate to interrupt playoff thoughts
but our hitters are kicking ass in the AFL so far.
Mitchell/Lambo/May are all repeating the league but Mitchell has gone off. He leads the league in every possible offensive category. OPS, HR, RBI, XBH, Slug% and Lambo is right behind him.
Funny thing is that Baseball Prospectus does a daily update on the league and they highlight about 10 players a day. They have yet to highlight either Lambo or Mitchell. They did highlight Josh Bell and gave him number one ranking for the day on Oct 20th, funny thing is that Lambo is two years younger and doing the same amount of damage.
Mitchell is old for the league but they are ga ga over Scott Sizemore who is just a few months younger then Mitchell and Mitchell is whumping. At least give the guy a mention.
Lucas May continues his hot hitting from the World Cup.
Trayvon Robinson has only had 7 at bats. Mitchell was on the team last year but rarely played.
Okay back to Playoff Thoughts.
Lucas May
may be the one who has the most immediate impact on the Dodgers….
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Martin getting hurt is exactly the reason
Injuries to starting outfielders would mean increased playing time for Juan Pierre, Xavier Paul and Hoffmann. Even if Lambo passes the Hoff on the depth chart he’s still pretty well blocked for 2010.
An injury to Martin would could translate into an immediate call up for May, depending on if the Dodgers sign another PVL or not to be Martin’s backup.
I know nothing about Mitchell, so you’ll have to let me know if he would be less blocked than Lambo.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
i think they would go to
aj elis before they go to lucas may
Perhaps, though,
If May keeps developing I don’t see any reason why he can’t jump Ellis on the depth chart as Elllis doesn’t exactly fit into the org’s long term plans anyway.
And my point about the PVL is that if the Dodgers don’t bring in another Ausmus next year and allow Ellis to be the backup, then May would be called up to be the 2nd catcher on the squad. Hence, May could be one injury away from being on the ML team.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
so Donnie Baseball
does not share Joe’s love of the Veteran presence.
by MammothDodger on Oct 21, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
lol at the hitters in this league.
its too easy for them..
josh bell had another great day 4 for 5 with 1 double and a HR 3 RBI
two of his teammates had 2 homerun games one had 7 rbis
im now thinking that hitters should not be evaulated on their performance and most importantly their stats cause its becoming a joke…
thats why what tommy hanson did last year was so amazing
Well
you wouldn’t want to put to much stake into a guy who sucked at the AFL but that is exactly what Posey is doing so far.
Aaron Miller has only pitched once so far.
More ESPN goodness
sounds like Erik Kuselias was cheating on his wife with the injury chick – Stephania Bell.
Best line of the affair "I may only be 22 but I'm not stupid"
http://www.nypost.com/r/nypost/2009/10/21/news/media/lettermistresstowifea.pdf
"If you go to ciphering we are whipped beforehand."
I'm pretty sure the fact that the entire world now knows
Steve Phillips has a birthmark above his dong is pretty funny in and of itself.
Wow
I can’t wait to get home and read all this stuff.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
TONIGHT
WE DINE IN HELL
Game Four is the feces that is produced when shame eats too much stupidity.
by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Oct 21, 2009 4:15 PM PDT reply actions
Hitting .300 the rest of the way (with subsequent power and patience of course) would be nice.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Plus
I’d like to kick Lidge into that bottomless pit
Game Four is the feces that is produced when shame eats too much stupidity.
by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Oct 21, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
u mean carlos ruiz :)
Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....
id be nice if manny can do that....
Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....
You do remember that the Spartans are horribly massacred at the end by the superior persians right :)
"If you go to ciphering we are whipped beforehand."
by Sordid on Oct 21, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
If we do the same
I would be pleased
Game Four is the feces that is produced when shame eats too much stupidity.
by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Oct 21, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I was about to say something like that
Also, I’d prefer tonight didn’t end up with the Dodgers W.S hopes dying.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay, I'm not saying let's literally be like 300
what I’m saying is let’s lay it all out on the line right now
Game Four is the feces that is produced when shame eats too much stupidity.
by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Oct 21, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m still pro bottomless pit, you know,for the record.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
But if this was 300 would Lidge be the freakish persian emperor
"If you go to ciphering we are whipped beforehand."
Lidge would be anyone
who dies a gory and painful death
Game Four is the feces that is produced when shame eats too much stupidity.
by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Oct 21, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
BTW
I still don’t get why the Spartans didn’t retreat. I get that doing stupid things to prove how manly they were was sort of their thing, but they could have retreated once they received word that the Persians were able to flank them. At this point, you’ve inflicted plenty of damage; retreat to base and wait for the Persians to arrive. By that time, hopefully you could mobilize the full army (instead of just 300) and defeat the Persians remaining Persian army. Committing suicide seemed pretty stupid.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh great. I haven’t seen the movie yet.
Don’t tell me how Titanic ends, either!
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
By the way
the guy’s in Apollo 13 make it back to earth safely.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Bruce Willis is a ghost
and Rosebud is the sled
Game Four is the feces that is produced when shame eats too much stupidity.
by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Oct 21, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
It was by choice. I’m usually not into CGI fests
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Rosebud was a sled
2009-10 LA Kings Hockey: Where Smyt Happens!!
by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 21, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Einhorn is Finkle. Finkle is Einhorn.
2009-10 LA Kings Hockey: Where Smyt Happens!!
by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 21, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
They Were Surrounded by 10 zillion Persians at that point
The theory goes that they actually acted as the rear guard for the less tough Greeks who booked out of there.
If the less tough greeks could book it out of there, why couldn’t the Spartans?
And how long could the remaining Spartan fleet hold off the 10 zillion Persians once being surrounded? 3 hours? (in the movie it’s about 15 minutes.)
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Well you have to keep in mind I wasn’t actually there, but if they all ran away at once, the Persians would just run after them.
A small amount held the pass but were then encircled from both sides and then slaughtered. I would imagine the army that outflanked them was much smaller than the army at the pass.
Historically
It was the best defensive position available and the greeks thought they could hold the persians there. Initially the greek army was bigger but most of the greek left once they saw the situation looked hopeless.
"If you go to ciphering we are whipped beforehand."
Historically
I understand the logic of trying to ward them off at the pass. My point is, if others are able to determine the situation was hopeless (and it was) why not make a strategic retreat. Of course with the benefit of hindsight, I now know that Persia never conquered Greece anyway, but even if they did, commiting suicide makes no sense at that point. Live to fight another day.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
They needed to buy time for the Athenian fleet to fight the Persian fleet and there was something about an oracle involved
"If you go to ciphering we are whipped beforehand."
I guess my time frame is screwed up then
that’s what happens when you can’t remember the history as well because you’ve now seen the movie and the two blend together.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
is there a way we can kick the phillies into a bottomless pit?
cause then we go to the world series by default :)
Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....
why did all the persians look like gorrillas and
animals and the spartans were all good looking muscular men??
Based on one of the great historical battles in Earth's history
According to one book I read holding the Persians from taking over Greece was one of the turning points in the worlds history. But it was just one historian, I’m sure some here have more insight.
it was a graphic novel by Frank Miller
2009-10 LA Kings Hockey: Where Smyt Happens!!
by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 21, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
It was based on a Graphic Novel which itself was based on a true story
"If you go to ciphering we are whipped beforehand."
its based on a novel
but there was a war between the greeks and persians in like 400 BC or something
all i know is the spartans were specially trained soldiers
like they began training when they were like 7 years old and they defeated the persian army which had 10,000 soldiers or something
i read something on this 3 years ago but i dont remember that well
Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....
Why the crap is it whenever i go to ESPN or TBS
I turn it on right when they show the end of game 4? Damn.
yeah i generally avoided any sports coverage on tv and online last 2 days
too annoying and painful to see…
Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....
Yeah same here
Most of the stuff on the internet i look at is baseball stuff, so I have mostly stayed off the computer the last 2 days. Then late night tv blows so i usually watch sportscenter…i’ve been watching crappy late night tv the last 2 nights.
Same with me
Game Four is the feces that is produced when shame eats too much stupidity.
by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Oct 21, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
they continue to show the rollins line drive again and again...
with like 8 different broadcasters…
the most painful one to me was hearing the vin scully call..
he was like wow
or with this playing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zpaPX_5hwo
Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....
better yet this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MYzkBiJn5Y&feature=related
Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....
this must be how the cards fans felt after the holliday error
feels like getting kicked in the nuts over and over and over again each time
Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....
Something fascinating about Cole Hamels
He does commercials for Comcast.
For now the third game in a row, the HD feed for TBS is still terrible and I’m still getting nothing for the non-HD TBS.
Let’s hope he’s as solid as Comcast tonight.
if comcast is solid tonight were screwed
Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....
Comcast just called me and asked me to hold
“Hello, this is a call from Comcast regarding your scheduled Comcast appointment. Please hold for the next available Comcast agent. Thank you.”
In a loop. It’s live now, going on for about 3 minutes now.
Hamels needs to lose as much as my building needs to get FIOS wired.
by StolenMonkey86 on Oct 21, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
And it was all because I needed to tighen the coax on the cable box by a couple turns
Craig Sager is wearing a very tame denim jacket.
by StolenMonkey86 on Oct 21, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
who woulda thought we would be depending on padilla to save our season?
Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....
Will this man be in dodger blue next year????
i love him and thank him for his great postseason…. But i hope he gets the hell outta LA…
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