Dodgers Fall As Phillies Capture 2nd Straight Pennant
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2009 8:48 PM PDT
in Dodgers Game Recaps
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Print| NLCS: Phillies vs. Dodgers | |||
| Phillies won series 4-1 | |||
| Game 1 |
Phillies 8, Dodgers 6 | ||
| Game 2 |
Dodgers 2, Phillies 1 | ||
| Game 3 | Phillies 11, Dodgers 0 | ||
| Game 4 | Phillies 5, Dodgers 4 | ||
| Game 5 |
Phillies 10, Dodgers 4 | ||
The Dodgers got to Cole Hamels for the second time this series, but forgot to hold up their pitching end of the bargain, as the Phillies won a slugfest 10-4, to capture their second straight National League pennant, again sending the Dodgers home in five games.
Vicente Padilla, who pitched so well for the Dodgers over the last two months, had his good run come to an end tonight. Padilla couldn't get an out in the fourth inning, allowing six runs on the night.
The Dodger bullpen, which figured to be a huge advantage this series, did not have a good series. In 21 innings, Dodger relievers allowed 13 runs and 32 baserunners, for a 6.00 ERA and 6.48 FIP. The starters didn't do any better, with a 8.72 ERA and 6.75 FIP while averaging a paltry 4.33 innings per start.
Jayson Werth hit two home runs tonight, including a three-run shot to right field in the first inning, after which the Phillies never looked back. The Dodgers staged a rally in the eighth inning, loading the bases with nobody out, but couldn't get closer than five runs.
In the series, the Phillies hit 10 home runs, scoring 23 runs of the long ball. Meanwhile the Dodgers, who hit three solo shots tonight, scored just seven runs on their six NLCS home runs. The Phillies hit four 3-run home runs in the series, compared to none for the Dodgers.
The Dodgers have given up 10 or more runs in a game in just nine of their 173 playoff games. Two of those games came in Philadelphia in this series.
The Dodgers have lost seven straight playoff games in Philadelphia. Their last postseason road win over the Phillies was Game 2 of the 1978 NLCS.
Congratulations to the NL Champions, the Phillies, for playing a great series, and earning a well-deserved return trip to the World Series. Ryan Howard, who hit .333/.524/.933 with eight runs batted in in five games, was named the NLCS MVP.
As horrible as this series loss feels, we must remember the Dodgers had a great season. They won 99 games (95 in the regular season, four in the playoffs), but just came up short in their quest to get to their first World Series in 21 years. There are plenty of great memories of this Dodger season, even if they aren't leaping to the forefront of our minds tonight.
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I hope a team playing in Anaheim tomorrow beats the Phillies
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Be more specific. Because half that answer will make me cry.
by SoftballHuman on Oct 21, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Rooting for the Angels, without question. But if they should fail, I will wish the Yankees well in their quest to beat Philadelphia
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Yankees
probably have the best odds, Angels would be best for our broken hearts.
by MaxDSterling on Oct 21, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions
we could probably guess who won't be,
but it’s hard to make emotional gut decisions.
by MaxDSterling on Oct 21, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d like to see Mark Loretta get some playing time tonight. He’ll need some cheering up.
by SoftballHuman on Oct 21, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions
idk
but we need to make a big move for a big bat…
no room in the outfield so somewhere in the infield…
maybe a dan uggla, or adrian gonzalez,
we need a big bat
we had one
but his bat ran empty and couldn’t get a legal refill.
by MaxDSterling on Oct 21, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
If there’s ever a team that could benefit from standing pat over the winter, it’s this Dodger team. They just need their young arms to grow into their talent.
by SoftballHuman on Oct 21, 2009 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Very well said
And also to not fall apart near the end of the season.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 22, 2009 12:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks for the Memories Dodgers
looking forward to 2010!
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
They already got it
I’d rather skip on the rematch next year
Hats off to the Phillies. Their offense was dynamite. The pitching was unbeatable, and the whole team looks unbeatable. I will root for them in the World Series because the memory of Harry Kalas deserves nothing less than a World Championship.
2009-10 LA Kings Hockey: Where Smyt Happens!!
by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 21, 2009 8:51 PM PDT reply actions
The Phillies did everything right except in Game 2
It’s a shame the Dodgers only victory in the series was because of an error but it is what it is.
Exactly. Game 2 was stolen. The Phil’s bullpen was second to none this series. Their team deserves all the credit. All the best in the WS to them.
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 21, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Game 2 was no more stolen than Game 4 the other way
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2009 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Very true.
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 21, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions
phillies dont deserve anything
when the yanks beat the hell outta them
Are you familiar with Harry Kalas?
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 21, 2009 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions
so what
the phils deserve to win cause they announcer died?
so if hank steinbrenner dies the yanks should win
nick adenhart died the angels should win..
so what the phils deserve to win cause they announcer died?
Let’s try to be a little more classy in defeat, Matt.
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 21, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions
you are the one who said
the phils deserve to win cause their announcer died…
Harry Kalas is more than just “their announcer.” He was a man that contributed memorable moments to sports fans all across America. Thanks to the Dodgers for a truly enjoyable season, and I look forward to better results next year.
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 21, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I think one can be respectful of the memory of Harry Kalas, who was excellent as you mentioned, and also not think his death means the Phillies deserve to win.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2009 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep. Mutually exclusive. I’ll root for Harry’s team because I love Chunky soup so much, though :-)
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 21, 2009 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions
But you are essentially saying they should get something because a great broadcaster who worked for them died. It sucks that it happened, but come on, the Phillies deserve nothing but an ass whooping by the Yankees (or hopefully angels)
I think he's just looking for the bright side in the Phillies winning
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2009 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s not so much a bright side as it is my memories from Chick Hearn’s passing. As LA sports fans, we are lucky to have people such as Bob Miller and Vin Scully performing for us nearly every game. When a voice that has been as much of your life as Bob, Chick or Vin’s suddenly goes away, I imagine that a void would suddenly appear in your sporting enjoyment. Harry Kalas meant a lot to the Philidelphia Sports Fan, and I wanted to say that even though our baseball teams may be adviseries, we can all relate to each other as common people…
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 21, 2009 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't feel that badly
I’m sad the season is over, but we lost to a better team, period. There’s not a ton of regret at least.
I don't regret the Phillies winning
But I’m not looking forward to seeing their fans boasting until CC smokes their asses in New York City
I'm tired of hearing the cheerful Dodger ads for season tickets
it’s not time to celebrate anything…
Lol. Per JsDodgerTweets
I’m rooting for the Yankees in the WS. They spent more, they should win. That’s capitalism. A lower payroll team winning is socialism.
well our long national nightmare comes to an end hehe
the Phillies i hate to say are a better team for now
any way like i said great year
its been alot of fun
i know its sucks to come this far and fall short
but if we stay healthy and improve
theres no reason why we cant come back next year and for more years to come….
Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....
me too
or angels if they can pull it off somehow
Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....
Basically
We’re rooting for the AL
Game Four is the feces that is produced when shame eats too much stupidity.
by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Oct 21, 2009 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions
because the AL continues to outspend outpitch and outpower the NL
by MaxDSterling on Oct 21, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions
You mean time to root for the Beavers
Woot woot
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
-1000000000
But i have no idea how the Trojans are favored by 21
by KellyStephen on Oct 21, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions
That does seem high
but Oregon State is like dead last in the country in sacks allowed, and their secondary is awful. This isn’t their best squad.
If I knew how to make a middle finger symbol I would
We own the Beavs in LA, it’s that whole “Corvallis” place that sucks
That game during Carson Palmer's senior year
In L.A was one of the best games I’ve ever seen. Anderson for OSU and Palmer combined for like 900 yards passing.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2009 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions
You mean the 2003 game?
Anderson had a good game then, we killed them in 2002
Hm.
Perhaps my memory is failing me.
Was it Anderson versus Leinart?
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
That was the game where Mike Williams made the one-handed catch.
I think Anderson threw for like 500 yards, and 5 picks. He was chucking it all over the place.
Ha
I always considered Anderson to be a poor man’s Kerry Collins. And that is a complement for me.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2009 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Yankees in 3
Let’s see how the Phils do against ace pitching and a team that can hit home runs as much as they can.
yeah
i really want to see if brad lidge can throw these sliders against a team that can actually hit, unlike the dodgers who were obviously pressing and swinging at bad balls the whole series and letting good ones go
that will be fun to see bwahaha
Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....
if Tex or Matsui get's off his slump
4-5 jacks in a row sounds really nice.
by MaxDSterling on Oct 21, 2009 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions
against his former teammate cliff lee?
Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....
well theirs the NFL and NBA too look forward to i guess :/
Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....
Thanks everyone
As when every Dodgers season comes to an end, it’s time for me to turn my attention to my UCLA Bruins and Lakers (my secondary teams). I want to say that even though I don’t post as much as I should, I always enjoy reading everybodys posts and comments. Eric, you and the rest of the team here at TBLA run one hell of a site. To always have a new analysis for every game of a grueling 162 game season plus the postseason is no small feat.
We lost again and it’s painful, but at the end of the day we’re all Dodgers fans and I think everyone here knows we’re pretty damn lucky. I’ll see all you guys in March! Thanks for a great season!
by UCLAClass82 on Oct 21, 2009 8:58 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Totally. Thanks to Eric & Phil for providing an enjoyable, informative and welcoming forum for all MLB fans here at TBLA. I look forward to the seasons to come!
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 21, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
BUMS, WELL GET 'EM NEXT YEAR BITCHES!
Have to say congratulations to Phils, they simply outplayed us in every way.
SEE YA NEXT YEAR!
I’m just going to block this out and remember Raffy’s and ’Dre’s longball on a lazy Saturday afternoon this year, K-Shaw’s shutdown Division clinching performance, and a slug fest game 1 beat down in the Division series; all of which I was lucky enough to be present for. Next year OCTOBER!
I have not watched a single episode yet this season. I have a bunch of them recorded though.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Coming from an angels fan, i feel ur guys pain. Losing is never fun, but at least not all is lost. You guys got a great young core. Loney, Eithier, Kemp and Martin all looked pretty solid this year, they just need to put in the dagger. Kershaw and Billingsley will have promising futures too!
It musta been hard to see dodger product do the damage! I know it woulda killed me to see an angel farm product kill us.
Hopefully the angels will be able to pull through and bring back a championship to So-cal, and stop this big east dominance
In Kobe we trust!
by robi s on Oct 21, 2009 9:02 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
thats right
and good luck to u guys tomorrow
hopefully u guys can take the series back to the bronx
Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....
A tip of the cap to the Dodgers from someone who would normally be an "enemy"
The Dodgers did an outstanding job this season—best record in the NL while playing in the NL’s toughest division still means something, at least to me (YMMV). Start to finish, the 2009 Dodgers were an incredibly talented and gutsy team that just hit the wall in the end. There is a reason (many reasons, really) they absolutely owned my favorite team this year, and luck had nothing to do with it. Regardless of rivalries, the Dodgers demand (and have long earned) my respect. It has been a hell of a ride, and I look forward to what should be a borderline-epic 2010 in the NL West.
Sometimes, unfortunately, you get outplayed…but right now, you can still hold your heads high. The Phillies are firing on all cylinders, and it shows. I really wish it could have been different, but there it is. That said, there is much hope for the future of your team from where I sit. Again, 2010 should be an amazing year in the NL West. I look forward to the ride next season.
See you at Coors in 2010!
Paleface Destro, wildly hacking destroyer of rallies.
Recovering Mets fan since 2007.
by Paleface Destro on Oct 21, 2009 9:04 PM PDT reply actions
Great post. Thanks for the kind thoughts.
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 21, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
You're welcome...any time. I will always give respect where it is due.
Paleface Destro, wildly hacking destroyer of rallies.
Recovering Mets fan since 2007.
by Paleface Destro on Oct 21, 2009 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice Season
Thanks for all the hard work Eric and Phil you put into this site. It was a great year and it’s now time to rest up the psychy for the Lakers and the Dodgers off season. See you tomorrow!
vr, Xei
yeah Lakers!
Because when I think of Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of Romanticism....
That's what I'm talking about
I’ll be back here tomorrow!
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2009 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously
I see the crap you get from other fan sites when showing your sims. We’re lucky to have you on TBLA, Xei. And you’re right, GO LAKERS!
by UCLAClass82 on Oct 21, 2009 9:12 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
It is really sad
I think some people don’t appreciate benevolence. The Good Phight is trying to find an angle as to why Xeifrank keeps posting his sims, saying he’s just linking to his site, but the truth is there is a lot of content there.
Whether they choose to use it it their choice. I love it.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2009 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn, Michelle Beadle is killing Manny on that Sportsnation show
she’s still hot though
Thank You
To Phil and my bro Eric for creating something special, and to all of you contributors to this blog. I’ve enjoyed getting to know you in cyberspace.
Special kudos to Phil, mwhite06, Tripon, silverwidow, El Lay Dave, Xeifrank for your cleverness and thoughtful comments throughout the season (I’m sure I’ve forgotton a few, so I’m sorry).
But most of all to Eric for the priveledge of watching him grow into his own on this blog.
I really enjoyed reading all of your comments here this season Kelly! Hopefully you can continue to bring the noise, the funk, and the funny all season long here next year!
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 21, 2009 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
One last comment...
Atleast we aren’t MCC. j/k, cuz I know those guys are reading us. They must be pissed that we aren’t imploding on each other.
vr, Xei
be careful…the haters may be just be writing very, very, very long posts. Or they blew out their keyboards hitting so hard; well, at least the F key.
by KellyStephen on Oct 21, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
douche
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 21, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry dude
I saw the names of lackluster Gints prospects and the ALL CAPS and overreacted.
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 21, 2009 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Joshua Burnett. Paging Joshua Burnett, please.
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 22, 2009 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Here, here!
It’s been nice reading all your contibutions and getting to know your writings during this season, Xei. I look forward to hearing from you again in the seasons to come!
vr, DBB
:-)
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 21, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah XEI!
I really enjoyed your simulator picks and posts.
Thing was right to often though, NEVER TELL ME THE ODDS :).
Hahah
Oh Xei, you know we don’t all hate you.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
GET THAT VORP AND WHIP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!
Oh Yeah, and thanks Eric for the awesome updates and keeping us fans educated and up to date in the most entertaining way.
You had an awesome year, you might of closed it out better . . but :), just kidding, you were awesome in every way. Thanks so much!
Everyone PLEASE THANK Eric (and Phil too) for making this site as great as an organization like the Los Angeles Dodgers deserve!
HIGH FIIIVE!
Perfectly honest, the pain isn’t nearly as bad coming on to this site and seeing that everyone is disappointed, but not holding their heads down. We root for the Los Angeles mother f-ing Dodgers and as hard as it can be at times, that’s something to be damn proud of. Thanks again for this site Eric, Phil, and all the other who pore their time and effort into this site so that regular chums like myself can still feel part of the Dodgers community even when I live 3000 miles away. You boys have done well
by UCLAClass82 on Oct 21, 2009 9:18 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
fuckin’ A, bubba.
Even if you did go to the wrong LA school.
by KellyStephen on Oct 21, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Amen. MLB history is as steeped in Dodger blue as it is in Yankee pinstripes. Even fans of other teams would do well to remember that.
Paleface Destro, wildly hacking destroyer of rallies.
Recovering Mets fan since 2007.
by Paleface Destro on Oct 21, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
get bills a condo in california or arizona
i don’t want to read the headline bills on ice. brakes his leg and arm
Sorry, guys. I feel your pain.
(I posted this in the other thread by mistake. I’ll repost it here so that you can see it).
I had a really good time here on True Blue LA these past couple weeks. You Dodger fans are cool. Maybe next year, if the Tigers are off or the games are at completely different times, I’ll join you for a game or two, if you’ll have me. And of course our teams will see each other in Interleague play. In the meantime, go Yankees/Angels! Beat the Phillies!
Here’s hoping for a Tigers-Dodgers World Series in 2010! :-p
by SabreRoseTiger on Oct 21, 2009 9:11 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
SRTiger...
Thank you for all your support during this postseason. You have been such a welcome contributor during the playoffs here. I hope Edwin Jackson kicks ass for you all next year, and we hope that TBLA will continue to be your favorite destination for National League Baseball blogging next season…
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 21, 2009 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks to you and Baroque in particular, and all the Tiger guests we had this postseason. You were a welcome dose of perspective and a view from the other side, both in gender and rooting interests :)
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Brilliant idea. Unfortunately i have to be in Scottsdale for a work conference March 15-18, Monday through Thursday. Big bummer…NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m thinking heading out the previous Friday and hanging out until the conference, then doing the same the following week. It’s too early in the spring to really see all the regulars, but I’m thinking a half dozen games and 2-4 games of golf. Oh, and work of course.
Who’s with me???
by KellyStephen on Oct 21, 2009 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
technically
he was set for game 4 NLDS
by dodgerpreacher on Oct 21, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Not that I would change the NLDS
but what if Padilla lost in Gm 3, and it was Bills who threw 7 shutout IP in Game 4? Might he have had two NLCS starts? Crazy how fleeting opportunity is.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2009 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
Because Torre is all about chasing the wheel. He’s proven this with the non-stop tinkering with the lineups and the way he changed up the playoff rotation a half dozen times. Giving Wolf 10 days off. Starting Kershaw, then sitting him an extra day for Padilla. Padilla being dubbed Ace #5 this year—- Kuroda to start, the Bills, then Wolf, Kershaw and lastly Padilla.
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Meh.
I wouldn’t care one way or the other…
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2009 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions
The pen should be a strength again next year
all season long.
Broxton
Kuo
Sherrill
Belisario
Troncoso
is a great group to start from.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2009 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Of course, the guy in my avatar will be in that pen, too. Maybe not in April but shortly thereafter.
I wouldn't be surprised if he made it out of camp
He almost did last year
by Michael White on Oct 21, 2009 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions
will you be giving him rides to the park?
by KellyStephen on Oct 21, 2009 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions
What sucks is the comments by Dick Carey: the Dodger bullpen was supposedly such a strength but it let them down this series.
Yeah, he was right but it sounded like a “fuck you, you west coast pricks” comment to me.
Then again, I may be just a bit sensitive right now. Which may also be why my entire family, who was downstairs earlier, all ran upstairs shortly after the game was over.
Like I threw something. Or threw out a few f-bombs. All I said was that I disliked Shane Dicterino. Honest…
What do you guys think?
by KellyStephen on Oct 21, 2009 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions
one positive frlom losing seriess in 5 games instead of 6 or 7
… less of these asshole announcers
by matthewmafa on Oct 21, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I felt let down by the bullpen, that was the only advantage we had
and they failed.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Oct 21, 2009 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
cory wade is sherrill just right handed
plus has an out pitch vs opposite handed hitter unlike sherrill who never throws a changeup
Sour note to end on
But I had more fun watching this year’s Dodgers than I have in a long time. TBLA is a big part of that. Thanks every. (Especially Eric and Phil)
by prosellis on Oct 21, 2009 9:30 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Free Agents:
Garland*
Milton
Mota
Padilla
Schmidt
Weaver
Wolf
Ausmus
Belliard
Castro
Hudson
Loretta
Mientkiewicz
Thome
*Option
The only guys I’d want back are Wolf and Belliard (as a bench/platoon player).
I wouldn't mind trying to keep Milton and Weaver
Sign them to minor league contracts to start the year and keep them around if something goes wrong once again with one of our starting five.
If we lead with Wolf, Kuroda, Chad, Kersh and JMac/Elbert, considering all five never seem to be fine at once, I’d like to have veteran depth we can call up in either Milton or Dreamweaver. If cheap, take ’em back.
I think we give Weaver and (especially) Milton the Lima / Chan Ho II treatment:
Thanks for the unexpected good season, but we’re walking away from the table rather than pressing our winnings.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I would not keep Milton
but maybe Weaver
Game Four is the feces that is produced when shame eats too much stupidity.
by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Oct 21, 2009 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
no way
at all elbert will start for the dodgers… i just dont see it.. the guy has no control and has only 2 pitches…
j mac has a better chance if he works on his conditioning so he doesnt lose all command and velocity after 3 innings…
but i really think we should really get garland as a cheap option cause he will give us a lot of innings and he is durable and never misses a start..
also i think we should have haegar take the role of weaver this year as long man occasional spot starter.. he gives a team great flexibility plus hes fun to watch and hes better then weaver tooo
by matthewmafa on Oct 21, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
how much could he command
2 years 15 mil?
by matthewmafa on Oct 21, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
hes got a 10 mil
mutual option for 2010
by SeanMillerSavior on Oct 21, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
'ppreciate the hospitality
Too bad the ride couldn’t have been a week or two longer, but I’ll have to check back in next year some, even before I show up to troll ya for the Tigers- Dodgers interleague series…if I remember right, we play you on my birthday, so I’ll offer no apologies for showing up drunk :)
You guys had a great year, absolutely nothing to hang your heads over. You ran into a buzzsaw this week, unfortunately…
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Give me a break
Patrick O’Neal just said Billingsley will have to EARN a starting spot next spring.
BULLSHIT.
For Price I hope:)
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Oct 21, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
price is overrated
ovvverrated.. but we;ll save this conversation for another day
by matthewmafa on Oct 21, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
What, no one appreciates my witty comments
First, great year everyone, it ended too soon but then that’s the case for 29/30. Eric, its been a long road from that spring training game, almost 7 months, but you, Phil and Brendan did a great job.
I would try to take whatever anyone says about next year with little worry, no one is thinking about that right now. Let’s just hope Bills stays off any icy stairs this winter.
Losing in the NLCS
means the Dodgers’ playoff money for the players will be roughly the same as last year. This of course depends on the number of shares awarded (voted by the players), but in 2008 each full playoff share was roughly $102,000. Not a bad bonus, especially for the young guys.
Great season guys
Two NLCS appearances in a row is quite a feat. Thanks Eric and company for putting together a great site for Dodger fans everywhere, and for providing great analysis throughout the season.
Go Dodgers!
Next Years Predicted Lineup
C- Russell Martin(i want the all-star Russell back)
1B- Loney
2B- Belliard/Dewitt
SS- Furcal
3B- Blake
LF- Manny
CF- Kemp
RF- Ethier
SP- Kershaw
SP- Billingsley
SP- Kuroda
SP- Harden(probably a stretch but a 1 to 2 year deal a possibility. . when healthy top 5 stuff in majors and Dodgers stadium would be make him look a lot better)
SP- JMAC
RP- Broxton
RP-Sherrill
RP- Kuo
RP- Bellisario
RP- Troncoso(not a fan but hopefully hell return to 1st half)
RP- Weaver
by SeanMillerSavior on Oct 21, 2009 9:59 PM PDT reply actions
yeah id love him
but hed be pretty expensive. I wouldnt be surprised if he got 13-15 mil for 3 or 4 years
by SeanMillerSavior on Oct 21, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
?
3 years 45 or 4 years 60?
hes looking for burnett kinda money.. 6 years 90 mil
by matthewmafa on Oct 21, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I wonder who could possibly pay him that much
4 for 60 looks more realisitc for him
by SeanMillerSavior on Oct 21, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
if 4 years 60 mil is all hes going to command
the dodgers should pounce all over the guy
by matthewmafa on Oct 21, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
That is about right
No Harden though, Ned won’t get burned again with an expensive bum armed pitcher. Not much to do other then bring in one more starter and fill out the bench and start filling out the depth at AAA with a bunch of NRI’s. I’ll be shocked if Ned spends any money this winter other then giving the kids raises in arbitration. No deals for Kemp/Billingsley/Martin/Loney this winter.
I do think that Pierre will not be on the team come April.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Oct 21, 2009 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
i really wonder tho
who the hell would trade for pieree.?
i think the only team would be the tigers..
by matthewmafa on Oct 21, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Yea
I mean if the dodgers are gonna have to eat hsi contract and get only a mediocre prospect they might as well keep him as insurance.
I
I know he would like to play everyday next year, but he was extremely valuable this season
by SeanMillerSavior on Oct 21, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks guys
Eric, Phil, and Brendan. It was a pleasure getting a chance to meet you guys and really appreciate the work on the site. Even though I don’t comment here often, I have hard enough time handling one online conversation and getting enough work done, TBLA is a everyday must read for me
Thank you – keep up the great work – and I am sure I will be reading you each day in the offseason too
I'll be rooting for the Phillies to repeat
They have a great team and other then Feliz I’d like any of them to be Dodgers. Oh wait some of them were. Reason enough to root for them. They kicked our ass, now I hope they do the NL proud and kick the Yankee’s ass.
I didn’t so much mind them torching our pitching as I did our hitters not torching their middle relief. Amazing how a 10 – 4 game was still within a Thome at bat of being close again.
Get ready for a quiet winter related to the roster, but a crazy winter as the McCourts figure out how to ruin a franchise from within.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Oct 21, 2009 10:12 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
My Best Memory
was probably Opening Day. I was there, and when they announced Vin Scully’s name the crowd was the loudest it has ever been and it sent chills down my spine. And then of course Odog’s cycle was crazy. When he reached third base I had forgotten that he had a HR already. That was probably the best game all year for me.
"Where would the Clippers be without Sean Rooks?"
Yep..Vinny is baseball
I turned off the talking heads on TBS and listened to Vin. What a great announcer. I still don’t understand why the need to have so many announcers. It’s a wonderful to hear Vin calling a game..the crowd..the pause to listen..the insight into the game.
Great year for the Dodgers. Looking forward to 2010. Maybe a starting arm or two and we could make it to the WS..OK maybe a big bat too. But, there’s always Vin regardless who is playing.
Who's next?
There was talk of Eric Karros being a replacement. Also, I heard Vin might not retire in 2010 which would awesome. Don Drysdale was great and had that presence in the booth..but no more. Mo is not Vinny. Charlie..no way. Sigh.. Hopefully, someone who can call the game on their own solo. Dodgers need to take care of their listeners and find someone that can learn the ropes from Vin. Or I’ll be a Phillies fan.. :-)
That’s one of the things that Vin does best: he stops talking. Too many times these network announcers will be too afraid of silence that they start with their weak analysis that bores everyone to death and then miss the pitch entirely.
You wanna know how great baseball is? The greatest basketball player ever left his sport to play baseball.
best young core in the NL WEST
rockies: tulowitzki, fowler, gonzalez, seth smith, ianeta,ian stewart ubaldo, hammel, de la rosa
dodgers: ethier kemp loney martin kershaw billingsley
Giants: sandoval, posey lincecum cain, sanchez
Dbacks: UPton, connor jackson, reynolds, montero, drew,chris young. haren, sherzer, webb
.
Padres: Gonzalez, headley, blanks, everth caberea, latos, clayton richard
for all the talk that the dodgers have one of the best young cores in baseball, we might be 4th or 5th out of 5 in our own division… considering the giants pitching, the dbacks , padres and rockies hitting and pitching, we might be last…
the thing that seperates us from other teams tho in the regular season is joe torre. you can never underestimate the influence of a coach… just like with the lakers.. i feel like the dodgers have an advantage against the opposing coach every game… something about joe really works well in the regular season…
Lol
You use Jackson, young, and Webb for the Dbacks when none of them either played or had even a decent season?
I really think you’d be wrong to say that the Dodgers are worse than 3rd.
check out how good young was at the end of the season
and how good webb has been in his whole career…
by matthewmafa on Oct 21, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
They might not even pick up Webb’s 8 million dollar option, that’s how serious his injury was….
And sorry, I think I’ll take the whole season stats over 3 weeks worth of good play at the end of the season.
Webb is a huge question mark.
That shoulder does not appear to have healed nearly as well or as quickly as the D’Backs hoped
they still got haren and sherzer
which would be better then any duo except for the giants and maybe the dodgers..
kershawsherzer
tough call
by matthewmafa on Oct 21, 2009 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
meant to say
kershaw < Haren
Bills > Sherzer
by matthewmafa on Oct 21, 2009 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
wasnt comparing them 2
putting < and > without spaces deletes words and it meant to say
kershaw < Haren
Bills > Sherzer
but the < and the > deleted the haren and bills part
by matthewmafa on Oct 21, 2009 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Man I saw a lot of stuff this year - repeat what I posted on DT
1. Going to Spring Training w/Eric Stephen and JJ24
2. Seeing the Cycle with JJ24 as we called out his triple
3. Book signing night w/Kim Ng and a walk-off win
4. Seeing a rare missed base and a walk-off error with PS
5. Watching an Ethier walk-off against Lidge
6. Meeting HJ and hearing the Reuss story
7. Heading down to Petco w/Eric and some True Blue guys to see Manny’s return
8. Spending games with Marty, Brock, Sporky and JPG
9. Meeting Underdog and LouisinSF, watching AT&T empty out as the Dodgers take 2 out of 3
10. Watching the BobbleSlam with Jon and Sporky
11. Seeing Belliard Slam out Penny
12. Ethier’s big HR off of Lincecum
13. Late night walk-off by Ethier to beat the Pirates
14. Weaver vs. Weaver
15. Seeing the Dodgers win the West w/True Blue Gang
16. Going to Game 1 of NLDS, hearing HJ’s nephew tell us how he knew Kemp’s HR was gone, seeing Game 2 w/HJ and the feeling of excitement as Lorretta’s ball got down.
17. Even though they lost, the battling back Dodgers trying to win Game 1 of the NLCS.
What a great year, thanks to the Dodgers for bringing a smile to my face after at least 58.6% of the time. Most memorable stretch of the season for me was when Manny was suspended and how the rest of the team came together and battled for that 50-game stretch and proved all the critics wrong.
I also really enjoyed seeing Kershaw’s maturity as the season wore on.
Seeing the Dodgers hand it to the Cardinals in the NLDS also left me with a great feeling
Many thanks to Eric, Phil, Brendan, and all the other posters who contribute great content to this site. I’ll still be here in the offseason, getting ready for Dodger baseball in 2010!
You wanna know how great baseball is? The greatest basketball player ever left his sport to play baseball.
Many thanks to Eric, Phil and Brendan.
What an absolute pleasure it was to turn to this blog this year. What a great year for the Dodgers. Yes, it ends with a loss, but it was one hell of a ride. The insight and coverage provided by these three gentlemen was fantastic. 2010 is the perfect amount of time away.
Eric: You rock.
Phil: You’re the calm, steady voice of reason on this site.
Brendan: You always come up with the most intriguing stats.
One thing I'll wonder
okay two,
did Chad ever recover from his hamstring aches and did Manny’s hand ever recover from being hit
and chads broken leg before the season...
might be why he stuggled so mightily in the 5th inning on…
by matthewmafa on Oct 21, 2009 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Season wears on -> less stamina due to less conditioning?
Early in the season, his legs are still fresh, and can last longer.
vicente padilla
no way he comes back to the dodgers right..?
and what do you think he will demand? somewhere like 2 year 12 mill or there is no way he gets more then a 1 year 5 mill with incentives deal
He'll be a Type B
but no way they offer him arbitration because the least he could earn is $9.6 million next year (80% of his $12m of 2009). He’ll file free agency, and might come back to the Dodgers, but I think some team will offer him a 2 year deal or so.
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2009 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of that
I’ll have a roster overview that will run tomorrow mid morning or so
by Eric Stephen on Oct 21, 2009 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions
It was....
truly a great season. I started it off by watching the dodger lose two games in Glendale for spring training. I thought it would be a bad year for the dodgers at games I attended. Man, was I wrong: I went to the following games:
April 23 @ Houston W 2-0: Dodgers shut out at Houston by going with the Bills to Brox combo.
May 18 New York W 3-2 in 11: The Mets make 5 errors and Ryan Church misses third and the dodgers win on a walk off error.
June 29 Colorado W 4-3 in 13: The Dodgers win in 13 on Andre’s 2-run HR
July 3 @San Diego W 6-3: Manny’s First game back
Aug 6 Atlanta W 5-4: Andre walk-off 3 run Hr
Oct 8 Cardinals Game 2 W 3-2: I think everyone still remembers this one.
6-0 and four walk-offs
Never came late, never left early. Go Dodgers!
Just shaved my head and my beard. And I am bleeding from multiple cuts, burn baby burn.
04,06,08,09.. All sad, but every time I cannot wait for the next season.
I cannot feel but good, knowing we have multiple All star talents(for whats it worth, stupid Jayson Werth and his biased Manager) with Clayton Kershaw getting ready for a decade of pure domination.
Glad I didnt see the game, but then again I see nothing but upbeat posts and it makes me feel good.
Eric and Phil thanks so much.
by NotJoeTorre on Oct 22, 2009 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Wiktionary definition of mote
A small particle; a speck; A tiny computer for remote sensing. Also known as smartdust; must
I hope it wasn’t a mote, otherwise you suck at growing playoff beards!!! And we will know who to blame!! ;-)
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 22, 2009 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions
disappointed to see the result
But you guys had the fun of watching a gutsy team go on a great run. The Phillies were unfortunately firing on all cylinders at the worst possible time for you to run into them. 26 other teams wrapped up their season before yours did, and would love to have played another game today. You have everything to be proud of.
And thanks for being such hospitable hosts to all of us Tiger fans. It was great fun to watch another team play with people who knew it well enough to make fun conversation and inform visitors about players with which I was unfamiliar. It was also an entirely different experience watching a team play that I actually know anything about the farm system for, because I’m not a prospect nerd and generally don’t pay much attention to that. :)
Have a good offseason, and don’t be surprised if I show up for visits next season, too.
Best of luck to the Dodgers and all their fans in the 2010 season.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
by Baroque on Oct 22, 2009 1:58 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
In two or three years....
You will be seeing a really, really good Dodgers team that will be downright scary and will most likely get over the hump. The only thing I see standing in their way is Colorado who also has a very young core and some nasty starting pitching. Should be fun to watch in the future.
As a Phils fan I would like to thank the authors on great blog posts and insights into the game. I also like to thank the Dodgers fans for posting some great comments and showing some humility in the series ending loss. It might have only gone 5 games but it was a very exciting series that could have gone either way. Thanks guys and I hope you root for the Phils!
2 out ouch..
That bottom of the ninth in game #4 still kills me. It’s amazing how the same pitcher (JB) couldn’t find a low strike like he did in game #2. Otherwise, we’d have a game #6 tomorrow. But, that’s baseball..just ask Matt Holliday.
>> Thanks guys and I hope you root for the Phils! <<
Do you think Dodger fans will pulling for the Yankees? Here’s one Dodger fan rooting for the Phils. I still remember NY Yankee fans throwing stuff (bottles?) at Reggie Smith. I know one bad apple.. (no pun intended.)
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