SB Nation NL Manager of the Year
by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2009 8:32 AM PST
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PrintThe fine blogs of SB Nation got together and voted on all the major awards as the season closed. The awards are being announced this week, one week before the Baseball Writers Association of America announce the awards that actually have hardware attached.
It should come as no surprise that Jim Tracy of the Rockies won National League Manager of the year. He received 24 of 30 first place votes, easily outpacing Tony LaRussa of the Cardinals. Joe Torre finished fourth. Here are the results:
| Rk | Manager | Team | 1st | 2nd | 3rd | Pts |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Jim Tracy | Colorado Rockies | 24 | 1 | 2 | 125 |
| 2 | Tony LaRussa | St. Louis Cardinals | 3 | 7 | 10 | 46 |
| 3 | Fredi Gonzalez | Florida Marlins | 2 | 6 | 5 | 33 |
| 4 | Joe Torre | Los Angeles Dodgers | - | 9 | 2 | 29 |
| 5 | Charlie Manuel | Philadelphia Phillies | - | 3 | 5 | 14 |
| 6 | Bruce Bochy | San Francisco Giants | 1 | 1 | 1 | 9 |
| 7 | Bobby Cox | Atlanta Braves | - | 1 | 4 | 7 |
| 8 | Bud Black | San Diego Padres | - | 1 | 1 | 4 |
| 9 | John Russell | Pittsburgh Pirates | - | 1 | - | 3 |
Here are the ballots that Phil and I submitted:
Phil: Jim Tracy, Tony LaRussa, Bud Black
Eric: Tracy, Bobby Cox, LaRussa
Tracy's Rockies finished the year 74-42, although the Dodgers beat them six out of nine games, winning all three series.
Phil and I only voted on the NL awards. Mike Scioscia of the Angels won the SB Nation AL Manager of the Year.
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I guess I can't blame you since this was voted on before post-season
But Charlie Manuel was the best manager this year in the NL. Period
I think its pretty funny and telling that neither of you had Torre based upon regular season performance.
It almost seems silly to vote unless your going to have definitions and categories.
I don’t know how you can definitively say anyone, let alone Manuel, was the best manager, “period.”
by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2009 9:08 AM PST up reply actions
So was Scott Brosius the best 3B in the AL from 1998-2000?
by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2009 10:00 AM PST up reply actions
If wins was the only stat you had for 3B.
Yes.
Unfortunately, there are a lot of different ways to objectively explain that he sucked.
I am now eagerly awaiting manager performance factors (double plays/double play opportunties, runs/OPS?).
You give full credit to the manager for every win and loss?
Would Charlie Manuel have won the pennant if he was managing the other Pennsylvania team in 2009 instead?
by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2009 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
Hell No
Agreeing to Manage Pittsburgh would be enough to disqualify him on the spot! :)
Seriously, you could pick any Manager and make a case. In reality, if your team sucked you aren’t going to win.
But Charlie Manuel was the best manager this year in the NL. Period
Great. That’s your opinion. Care to defend that opinion at all? Its easy to say that your opinion is different from the authors but if you aren’t going to explain why you feel that way, then why bother posting it?
by Michael White on Nov 10, 2009 9:15 AM PST up reply actions
I think a lot of the voting comes down to how did the team perform versus expectations.
The Rockies were 18-28, and then elevated Tracy and got within a game of the NL West lead on the final weekend. Not hard to see why Tracy won the award.
Torre deserves credit for managing through the Manny suspension, of course, but to me after Tracy the next few guys were very close. Torre was probably fourth on my ballot, if it would have extended that far.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2009 9:18 AM PST up reply actions
“Manager of the Year” voting is always a tough thing to pin down. More often than not, people will tend to be harder on their own manager than others because we sit here and nitpick every lineup, double switch, etc. So the “manager of the year” winners go to guys like Joe Girardi a few years ago who nearly took a Marlin team that everybody thought was going to be very poor to contending for a wild card spot. I mean, how else can you vote? It’s not like we can sit here and notice how great Coach X did utilizing his bullpen.
That being said, do I find it humorous that Jim Tracy is the consensus manager of the year? Yes, absolutely.
by Michael White on Nov 10, 2009 9:24 AM PST up reply actions
Agreed on the surreality of Tracy winning it :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 10, 2009 9:32 AM PST up reply actions
My MOY
voting is always based on expectation going into the season compared to performance. I thought what Bud Black did with the lack of talent on the Padres was more impressive then what Manuel did with the best collection of players in the NL. Hard to fathom the Padres being able to win 39 games in the 2nd half but they did.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Didn't stop the GM from getting canned
I’m being flippant, you could choose any manager and have a good reason to do so.
Reality = Players decide game
not even one first place vote for joe torre
best record in the NL and not one..
Just curious
Do you think he is the best coach in the NL?
by Michael White on Nov 10, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
i dont..
but first place in the nl should get you at least 1 first place vote..
tracy is the obvious winner tho
and i actually change my mind on the he should at least have gotten 1 vote… Tracy was the Obvious winner and joe recieved the most 2nd place votes..
tracy cause he turned the rockies around from rock bottom...
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