Kemp, Hudson Win Gold Gloves
by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2009 8:59 AM PST
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PrintMatt Kemp and Orlando Hudson of the Dodgers are among the National League Gold Glove winners, to be announced later today. This is the first award for Kemp, and the fourth for Hudson, who also won from 2005 to 2007 with both the Blue Jays and Diamondbacks. Here are the full list of winners:
| Pos | Player | Team | GG |
|---|---|---|---|
| P | Adam Wainwright | StL | 1st |
| C | Yadier Molina | StL | 2nd |
| 1B | Adrian Gonzalez |
SD | 2nd |
| 2B | Orlando Hudson |
LA | 4th |
| 3B | Ryan Zimmerman |
Was | 1st |
| SS | Jimmy Rollins |
Phi | 3rd |
| OF | Matt Kemp |
LA | 1st |
| OF | Shane Victorino |
Phi | 2nd |
| OF | Michael Bourn |
Hou | 1st |
This is the first time the Dodgers have had two Gold Glove winners in the same season since 2004, when Cesar Izturis and Steve Finley (who was acquired at the trade deadline that season) took home the hardware.
Kemp, who led all major league center fielders with 14 assists and four double plays (tied with Nate McLouth), is the first second full-time Dodger center fielder to take home a Gold Glove, joining Willie Davis (1971-1973). Finley played center field for the Dodgers in 2004, but only for 55 games. Kemp is also just the fifth sixth Dodger outfielder to win the award, joining Wally Moon (1960), Davis, Dusty Baker (1981), Raul Mondesi (1995, 1997), and Finley.
The only other Dodger second basemen to win a Gold Glove award were Charlie Neal in 1959, and Davey Lopes in 1978.
Thanks to Kensai at Memories of Kevin Malone for the scoop.
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you should also post the voting....
orlando hudson got 50 votes… and utley and brandon phillips got 17 each.. kensai has it posed on his site..
oh alright
just thought it would have been cooler to show the voting considering matt kemp was 1st place among outfielders.. (even got 2 more votes then VICTORINO!!!) and utley and phillips were Demolished by the odog.
mariners reach an agreement on a 1 year deal with Ken griffey junior
he hit .214 last year… will he hit less then .200 this year?
I wish Griffey would have had the chance
to play in a World Series. In the era of steroids, you can’t be sure he did not take them, but I would like to believe he did not. Especailly since he never seemed too yoked out or anything. I have always liked Ken Griffey Jr. since I bought his rookie card at 5 points baseball card shop with my saved allowance.
by Ian Capilouto on Nov 11, 2009 9:12 AM PST up reply actions
FWIW, his prOPS last season was .269/.384/.484. He did have an absurdly low LD% of 15.6%, though
by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2009 9:13 AM PST up reply actions
what is prOPS
is that the stat which would be his numbers if he had some luck? or what
Basically, yes
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/statpages/glossary/#props
PrOPS stands for “Predicted OPS.” It was developed by J.C. Bradbury amd introduced in this article. PrOPS isn’t really a new stat; it’s a formula for predicting what a player’s OPS is likely to be in the future based on his batted balls, strikeouts, home runs and walks
by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2009 9:15 AM PST up reply actions
wow .269/384/484
those are some great numbers for a 40 year old.. i bet if he has a line drive percentage of near 20 percent next year.. he could maybe do it.. considered how you pointed out his was soooo low this year
and he got knee surgery
so his knees are going to be feeling better..
If anything, I thought his low LD% would drive his prOPS downward too since he didn’t really hit the ball hard that often. I was surprised his prOPS was that high.
I hope he has a good year; I have always loved KGjr
by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2009 9:21 AM PST up reply actions
I hope we aren't
talking about what a great prOPS Manny had next year at this time compared to what actually happened when his bat met the ball.
I hope we are just giving him props instead
by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2009 9:24 AM PST up reply actions
But he didn't actually get those numbers
and I would venture a guess that PrOPS is absolutely useless for a player of Griffey’s age.
When you’re talking about a 40-year old, is there such a thing as “an absurdly low LD%”? When your reaction times have decreased, your muscles are getting a bit weaker, and the eyes are getting worse, aren’t you just going to make good contact significantly less often?
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 11, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
1. One exception does not invalidate the general rule.
2. 1981 was a strike-shortened season – old players didn’t endure the grind of a whole season.
3. Pete’s 40-year old season is the one uptick in a decline that clearly started the year before.
4. There is, of course, no data for LD% from back then.
Quick enough to satisfy your eagerness?
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I Agree, Pete's Decline Happened in his late 30's
I think you misunderstood, I was eagerly awaiting Pete’s response because I think he would be a really good person to address this, because although his numbers went down from his prime, he was able to have some longevity, and as you pointed out, had that aberrant 40 year old season (the next year dropped off a cliff though). He is one of the few hitters in baseball to experience baseball over a quarter century.
Anyway sorry if it didn’t make sense, I was with you, predictive statistics aren’t going to work with a 40 year old. Predictive statistics are really just “tricks” that you can apply to data that will work for a player in normal circumstances, but not if the player is not like the normal population you are evaluating. You know they are going to decline over their past performance, question is can they “Pete Rose” it out and squeeze some good years out (wow, I just looked, another shortened but good year at 43). Maybe Seattle should limit his playing time to less than 100 games? These are the questions I want to ask Pete, like “how did you do what very few others have been able to?”.
I'll bypass the obvious jokes that arise from your last sentence.
Maybe Seattle should limit his playing time to less than 100 games?
Apply this back to Manny Ramirez. He is clearly entering his decline years, although he can still be a formidable force at the plate. When the season started, Manny was supposed to get regular days off. I suspect that the plan, assuming no DL trips, was for about 136 starts – about one game off per week, or starting about 84% of the games – but the suspension threw those plans out the window. As it turned out he started 99 out of a possible 112 games, 88.5%, or a 143 game pace, meaning he played more consecutive games than the Dodgers probably planned. I can’t substantiate that seven starts over the season make a difference or not, but maybe fatigue played a factor in Manny’s late-season struggles.
In order to get the rate production (OBP, Slg%) that LA needs from Manny, I expect the Dodgers to try (again) to limit his starts to 135 games or so.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
anybody read this at MLBTRADERUMORS?
FOX’s guys continue to work this story, stating that the Dodgers “have some interest” in bringing Jackson back to the organization. The writers add that the teams have not discussed a Jackson-George Sherrill swap, though the Tigers liked Sherrill at the trade deadline.
Too bad, I'd do that swap in a heartbeat
I like Duckbill but relievers are more easily replaceable. But I’d love to bring Jackson back. Too bad We can’t trade Tony Abreu or Jon Garland for him. ;-)
The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".
Why would they want Sherrill?
A guy who will probably make close to 4 million next year for a middle of the rotation arm at worst with #1 upside? Uh…
by Chad Moriyama on Nov 11, 2009 9:11 AM PST up reply actions
I’m filing this in the “A.J. Ellis for Callaspo” rumors as things I would do in a heartbeat but will never happen
by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2009 9:12 AM PST up reply actions
Hey – when was the last time we were hearing trade rumors that weren’t screwing us? Even if they aren’t true it is at least nice to read some rumors that would help instead of hinder our team.
Dayton Moore is awesome
for other teams
by Chad Moriyama on Nov 11, 2009 9:25 AM PST up reply actions
He’s preserving the tradition of Kansas City baseball!
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 11, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
i think they want sherrill cause they need some relief help big time
and i bet we would have to include at least 1 top 10 prospect… maybe dejesus because detroit needs a shortstop
Argh
that I wouldn’t do. Dodgers don’t want to further thin the ranks of their infielder prospects. They might give them another pitching prospect, which I’d be iffy about too, but there are some I’d be willing to give up in the right deal.
The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".
theres free agency..
dewitt.. dee gordon.. i think we can live without dejesus if it means getting Edwin Jackson back..
We need to trade them the equivalent of Lance Carter as the second guy.
Sherrill fits the Baez role (although I think Sherrill is better, due to his dominance of LHB)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2009 9:24 AM PST up reply actions
I like your style. Then the deal is settled!
by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2009 9:25 AM PST up reply actions
Who will be the Chuck Tiffany we receive with EJ?
by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2009 9:26 AM PST up reply actions
How incredibly bizarre would it be
if we traded for EJ and Tiffany somehow makes it back and they someday are pitching together on the Dodgers?
Tomorrow
I’ll probably find out we released Tiffany and he’s now a scout or coach in the organization.
Holy cr...
That would be awesome! I would love to have Edwin “I’m only 25 and I have a sick slider and throw 95” Jackson back.
by Julio Nievas on Nov 11, 2009 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
So the Gold Glove list is confirmed I assume?
I love the scoop but just wanted to make sure I wasn’t foolish for re-tweeting it. ;-)
Go Bison Go!
The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".
Not confirmed, but (a) I trust Kensai, and (b) I already put his story on the front page anyway :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2009 9:11 AM PST up reply actions
Not confirmed
Until press conference at 3 pm EST today.
by Chad Moriyama on Nov 11, 2009 9:11 AM PST up reply actions
Convo-I had thought about that :o
NL Gold Glove Winners
P – Adam Wainwright
C – Yadier Molina
1B – Adrian Gonzalez
2B – Orlando Hudson
3B – Ryan Zimmerman
SS – Jimmy Rollins
OF – Shane Victorino
OF – Matt Kemp
OF – Michael Bourn
One of my projects is to compile edited out. One of edited out the gold glove voting for both NL and AL. Kemp had 72 votes, Victorino had 70, and Bourn had 31. 4th-6th place were Francoeur, Cameron, and Morgan respectively.
So this is good enough to post on my site is a “scoop”?
A source in the MLB offices has informed me that…?
yes
You have any more details about the full voting that I can include?
which positions?
All
by Chad Moriyama on Nov 11, 2009 9:24 AM PST up reply actions
I'm very happy for matt, this will be a much deserved gold glove in my opinion
his range out there is breathtaking, and he’s still got some learning to do
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
dan uggla to dodgers?
I caught some of the XM Radio Baseball show yesterday afternoon with Casey Stern and Kevin Kennedy. They were talking about some of the free agents available, and Stern mentioned that he thought Placido Polanco would be a perfect fit in LA.
Kennedy chimed in and said he heard that the Dodgers were interested in trading for the Marlins second baseman Dan Uggla. Now, Kennedy worked for the Dodgers for a number of years managing in their farm system, and he still works in the LA area, so this deal would not surprise me.
http://www.faketeams.com/2009/11/11/1125423/mlb-trade-rumors-dan-uggla-to-the
Awesome!
Never mind what I said before, Gold Gloves are a super accurate way of awarding the best defenders! Go Bison!
This list is more reasonable than the AL list
Zimmerman was a given. Surprised at Jimmy Rollins though, Brendan Ryan from STL looked really good to me.
The AL list was a joke...
At least this list seems to have made an effort to identify some good defenders and give them an award…which is unusual for gold glove voting.
Sometimes the impossible can become possible if you're AWESOME!
by ZeroIndulgence on Nov 11, 2009 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
i would think that would have been a good trade
until the tigers first base coach (scott van slykes father) was fired.
by matthewmafa on Nov 11, 2009 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
How about Sherrill, Preston and Don Mattingly for Jackson? :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2009 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
Done
Make it happen.
I remember reading that the Tigers were thinking that Jackson might be a better fit for relief, so maybe they would rather have Sherrill come in with experience.
by robotmadeofnails on Nov 11, 2009 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
Lets go with Sherrill and the McCourts for Jackson
then ink Cuban to a long-term ownership deal.
is Preston Mattingly even still
playing baseball? Sheesh, he seems a bust…
The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".
He's playing baseball, yes
in about the same capacity as you or I are though.
by Chad Moriyama on Nov 11, 2009 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
I'd hit it
Too good to be true though.
by Capt Obvious on Nov 11, 2009 11:02 PM PST up reply actions
Awesome Goldengloveloveliness!!!!
Kemp and Odog! Getting some recognition, good to see. Next year CY YOUNG and MVP!
If the Dodgers still played at the Coliseum, we would not have needed any more outfielders.
Jason Schmidt filed for free agency today
Meaning all 15 Dodgers eligible for free agency have filed.
Dodger 40-man roster currently sits at 29 players
Is there a list of minor leaguers
who have to be added to the 40 man or be eligible for Rule 5-ization? (Sorry, I know this was posted here before…) Just wondering how much space there actually will be. Right now there’s a lot of space to fill!
The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".
Plus guys drafted before that. I’m thinking guys like Josh Wall (2005) and AFL-killing Russell Mitchell (2003) draft are candidates to be left off.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
I also added this
to my Fan Shot on the front page RE: the roster
by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2009 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
Wow, 2006
was a worse draft than I’d even imagined it to be, though I’m surely being unfair to some players. But, gosh…
The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".
Hard finding a needle in that haystack?
At least Kershaw will make that draft one of the best ever :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2009 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
Yah I guess if we look at it that way
Kershaw alone makes that draft a success, but it appears to have a lot of wasted picks ultimately as well. 2005 looks better at least and they’ve also had good drafts since then so I guess it’s hard to complain. Will make filling out the roster easier at least.
The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".
Echo chamber
2006 looks really fugly. I remember it was supposed to be a lighter draft which is how Hochever got up there (over Lincecum…hahaha), but shit…Kyle Orr? Preston Mattingly??
Le fuck??
by Capt Obvious on Nov 11, 2009 11:05 PM PST up reply actions
Kemp's Twitter
God is good!! I jus won my first Gold Glove!! Something I have been dreaming of since I was a kid!! Thank u 2 all my fam and friends. Fans 2 (about 2 hours ago)
I couldn’t of did any of this without the support of a gang of people. (about 2 hours ago)
I knew for the past few days but to hear it on ESPN it’s official. I’m super happy right now!!! (about 2 hours ago)
You wanna know how great baseball is? The greatest basketball player ever left his sport to play baseball.
Wow, BSPNNews anchor just said “Phillies and Cardinals get two Gold Glovers”, didn’t even mention the Dodgers. Way to fail BSPN.
On the World Champion Lakers Basketball Network...
What do you expect?
Watching MLB network the other night, they recounted all the cycles hit during the year, and never mentioned Hudson’s opening day effort. Then, for predictions, Dodgers never got a mention even though 2 dudes picked the Cubs to go back to the WS.
by Capt Obvious on Nov 11, 2009 11:12 PM PST up reply actions
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