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Ken Davidoff of Newsday brings us the news that Jason Schmidt has filed for free agency today, meaning all 15 Dodgers eligible for free agency have now filed.

The Dodgers now have 29 players on the 40-man roster:

Pitchers (15): Kershaw, Billingsley, Kuroda, McDonald, Elbert, Broxton, Sherrill, Kuo, Belisario, Troncoso, Wade, Leach, Schlichting, Stults, Haeger

Catchers (3): Martin, Ellis, May

Infielders (5): Loney, DeWitt, Furcal, Blake, Hu

Outfielders (6): Manny, Kemp, Ethier, Pierre, Paul, Repko

To be protected from the Rule 5 draft, players must be added to the 40-man roster by November 20. Essentially, this means high school draftees from 2005 and college draftees from 2006, as well as similarly-aged international signees. Likely players to be added to the roster include Ivan DeJesus, Trayvon Robinson, Scott Van Slyke, Javy Guerra, and perhaps (as pointed out by CanuckDodger) Francisco Felix.

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I posted this for Underdog earlier but...

2005 draft
2006 draft

Plus guys drafted before that. I’m thinking guys like Josh Wall (2005) and AFL-killing Russell Mitchell (2003) draft are candidates to be left off.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2009 2:24 PM PST reply actions  

I saw 2 games that DeWitt played in so far in DR.

His playoff beard is “interesting” but his at bats are not. Very weak rollers to right side, and one soft liner into RF. My thinking is that he may be part of this 40-man discussion next year.

by delias man on Nov 11, 2009 2:33 PM PST reply actions  

At the worst, he will be in the Stults spot, in that they won’t have to do anything until spring training 2011. DeWitt, assuming he sees time in the minors in 2010, will be out of options in 2011 and will have to win a job in spring to keep his job.

But it’s doubtful they would outright him before that.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I challenge someone to find a player from the 2006 Draft

who is not already on the 40-man roster, that will need protection either this year (JC/college) or next year (high school).

by bhsportsguy on Nov 11, 2009 2:39 PM PST reply actions  

Wow, he really sucked last year. Nevermind. I thought I heard good things.

by silverwidow on Nov 11, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Buss was drafted

by us in 2006 but did not sign. We then drafted him again in 2008 and signed him. His 2009 season may not look like much but neither did Trayvon’s MWL season, and countless other MWL players who once free of the shackles of the MWL have gone on to impress. He may suck but it is hard for me to tell based on the MWL.

by meercatjohn on Nov 11, 2009 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Jamie Ortiz – Just turned 21, played in the Cal League and shared job with Caseres. Will probably have the 1st base job all to himself in the Cal league this coming season. He is someone who could breakout and need to be kept next winter.

Gorman Erickson – I’d hate to lose him even if he has progressed very slowly.

by meercatjohn on Nov 11, 2009 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Or another way to put it

Can Preston Mattingly become relevant in 2010?

by bhsportsguy on Nov 11, 2009 2:40 PM PST reply actions  

I would guess Kenley Jansen is the other guy with 2010 as the proving ground year to see if he gets added

by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2009 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Jansen

Eric, I was just going to say that with how well he is doing in the AFL there is no way Jansen, who was signed in 2004, stays a Dodger if he isn’t protected THIS year. Hard-throwing relievers are picked in the Rule 5 draft more than any other type of player, since they are pretty easy to carry as the last man in a bullpen, especially if the team is a non-contender. So my predictions for 40-man roster additions now: DeJesus, Van Slyke, Robinson, Guerra, Felix, Jansen.

by CanuckDodger on Nov 11, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Now that would really be something.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2009 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

But Jansen has so little pitching experience. Outside of old-time bonus babies (e.g., Koufax) and other oddities (e.g., David Clyde), has someone with such pitching inexperience made a 25-man Opening Day roster?

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 11, 2009 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd protect him

a really crappy team could stash him on their 25 man next year and then put him in the minors the following year. We have the room, why take a chance.

by meercatjohn on Nov 11, 2009 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Buster Olney is on ESPN 710 right now

and he made the case for trading Russell Martin in a package for Halladay. His main reasoning was that Martin made $5.6 million in 2009 and would make close to $8 million in 2010. They (Mason & Ireland, and Olney) spent two minutes talking about that “fact.”

Umm, Mr. Olney, Martin made $3.9 million in 2009.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2009 3:38 PM PST reply actions  

Plaschke’s latest article takes the easy road.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-plaschke12-2009nov12,0,2601997,full.column

about an 87-year old part-time scout who took a pay cut from $18,000 to $8,000 per year. Guaranteed to get sympathy for the scout, regardless of his effectiveness.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2009 3:45 PM PST reply actions  

Not mine, but I obviously have a black heart and a crushed soul. Lots of retirees would kill to get paid those kinds of salaries from age 72 to 87 doing something that they loved instead of working part-time as a Walmart greeter.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 11, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah so I say good for him.

I hardly doubt the guy is living in luxury. He is an old man who had a job for a long time. It was honest article in my book.

by Ian Capilouto on Nov 11, 2009 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't agree about the "honest article" part

It is entirely possible that BOTH

(a) The Dodgers have spent $10,000 unwisely in some regard
and
(b) this scout didn’t deserve his full salary

Even if (a) didn’t happen, it doesn’t mean the extra $10k should have gone to (b).

by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2009 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I think you are interpreting the piece for more than it is.

Even the best of scouts only get a handful of prospects into the Majors.

by Ian Capilouto on Nov 11, 2009 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

An honest article would be a story about the old scout, all that he’s seen, how things have changed and stayed the same. Plaschke’s take to get in his digs at the McCourts and the use the old scout to further his agenda.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 11, 2009 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

and that would have been a great article. Plaschke’s greatest strength as a writer is his ability to write the sentimental pieces. This one smacked of an agenda.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2009 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

That's why the article is lame

Attacking the McCourts is like shooting fish in a barrel — too easy.

Plaschke is using this scout’s story to that end. But, it is not out of the question that the scout is not as effective as he once was and may have deserved a pay cut.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2009 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

if Plaschke cared about the scout, at all, he would have mentioned ONE of the “hundreds of prospects” he has tipped to other scouts. That line was a throwaway cheap line by Plaschke to inflate the scout’s worth

by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2009 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I think in the scouting world

guys hear about a prospect or sees a kid and their organization is not interested so they want him to be scouted no matter what. Ethier is an example of no one being interested in him as a top prospect, but one scout sticking up for him even if he wasn’t goign to get him for his own organization.

by Ian Capilouto on Nov 11, 2009 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

That was another misinformation by Plaschke.

Ethier won the Texas League Player of the Year in 2005. It is almost literally impossible that he was unheard of to the extent that Plaschke portrayed.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2009 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know.

The way Ethier and the scout who he is buds with make it sound that he did a lot for him.

by Ian Capilouto on Nov 11, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t doubt that Ethier and the scout may have some sort of bond, but the way Plaschke portrayed him was that he was the only one who stuck up for Ethier.

Plaschke recycled his “he doesn’t even use a computer” meme in both articles

by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2009 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

To be fair

it only rankled me in the first example; not so much in this one.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2009 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I found a cached version

http://74.125.153.132/search?q=cache:FUURHvUxgdQJ:articles.latimes.com/2006/aug/16/sports/sp-plaschke16+plaschke+ethier+scout&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

The LA Times archives are down temporarily

by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2009 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

“temporarily” – it said that yesterday too.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 11, 2009 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Around the hotel room table, someone mentioned an unknown double-A outfielder named Andre Ethier.

This is where I call bullshit. He was not unknown (again, 2005 Texas League player of the year), except to Mr. Plaschke.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2009 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Ethier was also the Oakland A’s Minor League Player of the Year that season.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 11, 2009 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I have the BA book at home, but I believe he was their number 4 prospect that year as well.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2009 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe that is not a true story

Ethier was a top prospect of the A’s, a second-round pick, and hit .319 / .385 / .497 in AA in his last year with them. He was a known commodity, though certainly opinions varied.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 11, 2009 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Well I guess I looked past the McCourt parts

and just enjoyed the story of an old baseball scout. Plaschke does go for overt sentimentality a lot, but with this article, I liked the due that the guy got. I didn’t feel like I was beign pandered to.

by Ian Capilouto on Nov 11, 2009 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I may or may not have an agenda regarding the McCourts – I try to be objective but who knows what my subconcious is up to – but I don’t try and twist the topics of my posts/comments to further a conscious agenda.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 11, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn't mean what i said in a mean way.

I think it is inevitable for anybody who writes about the Dodgers to let some kind of feelings about the McCourts out in their writing. People on here have expressed various feelings about Frank firing Jamie’s people, and all of their other BS that is goign on in the public eye. I didn’t take Plasckes digs at them as more than par for the course.

by Ian Capilouto on Nov 11, 2009 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn't take it that way - it is a fair criticism.

I do think some people try harder than others to stay objective and I perceive Plaschke as a fellow who keeps his pen sharpened and available at all times, ready to stick it in and twist at moment’s notice. (Plaschke has provided enough written evidence for any of us to form defensible subjective opinions about him and his writings.)

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 11, 2009 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe you’re giving Plaschke to much credit or I’m myopic but all of his attempts at sentimental stories seem ham-fisted too me.

What Would Jack Bauer Do?

by Sordid on Nov 11, 2009 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

He should be writing Mitch Albom-style books instead of his usual screeds?

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 11, 2009 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

As i tell you repeatedly…Plaschke has no strength as a writer. I honestly don’t know how that douchebag has a job.

Which is why i haven’t read an article by him in 2+ years.

by KellyStephen on Nov 11, 2009 6:38 PM PST up reply actions  

This is an example of an honest article by Plaschke

This is an example of an honest article by Plaschke. It puts tears in my eyes, but in an honest way. I’d link to the Times, but I can’t find it on their pathetic web site.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 11, 2009 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for making me read Traschke.

“I know this is a different era, but baseball is baseball, isn’t it?” said Genovese, who has yet to sign a Dodger who has made it to the major leagues, but has tipped other scouts on hundreds of local players he knows better than anyone.
Emphasis mine. He was hired by Fred Claire in 1994 per the article. I wonder what teams those other scouts worked for, and if those tips ever amounted to anything.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 11, 2009 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly. This column by Plaschke is so predictably lame.

by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2009 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I disagree that it was lame.

It seems that you have a predetermined judgement against anything he writes which can be tiresome.

by Ian Capilouto on Nov 11, 2009 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Sir you’re opinion is just wrong, that article was incredibly lame and attempt phony sentimentality.

What Would Jack Bauer Do?

by Sordid on Nov 11, 2009 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe there’s a reason he’s getting a pay cut
“who has yet to sign a Dodger who has made it to the major leagues”

What Would Jack Bauer Do?

by Sordid on Nov 11, 2009 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

So the Team Is Pretty Much Set Then.

Add Nomar Garciaparra, Mark Grudzielanek, and Kenny Rogers and we’re done.

Its been a fun off season, see you in the Spring!

by Cool Dudes on Nov 11, 2009 3:49 PM PST reply actions  

LINK FAIL

You TBLA people have enticed made me read three plaschke articles and one FJM (which was a double FJM and plaschke fail) articles that were all completely worthless.

I don’t think any of them were dishonest or fake or anything. They just had no point or much worth.

I suppose this is payback for all of the worthless stuff I have written on this site.

Thanks! :)

I just want to also say, you bet I have a damn agenda with the McCourts, its to get rid of them! Please read this bias into any and all comments henceforth.

Spring can not come soon enough!

by Cool Dudes on Nov 11, 2009 5:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Could be worse. The current Plaschke article is the latest topic at Dodger Thoughts. At least it’s just buried in the comments here.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 11, 2009 5:43 PM PST up reply actions  

National Security?

Jim Riggleman has a job (Nats MGR), Lou Dobbs doesn’t

by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2009 3:57 PM PST reply actions  

Lou Dobbs ....

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 11, 2009 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

…resigned

by Eric Stephen on Nov 11, 2009 5:38 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

for Pedro Borbon … Borbon … Borbon …

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 11, 2009 5:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Who does did he play for?

(Before i get any comments…it’s a joke…I know damn well who he is but wondering how in the hell, and why in the hell, my brother felt the need to comment on his resignation on a Dodger blog!!!)

by KellyStephen on Nov 11, 2009 6:42 PM PST up reply actions  

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2B 14 Ellis $2,500,000
3B 5 Uribe $8,000,000
SS 9 Gordon $485,000 team control
LF 21 Rivera $4,000,000
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SP 35 Capuano $3,000,000
SP 44
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CL 54 Guerra $485,000 team control
RHP 74
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RHP 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
RHP 60 Coffey $1,000,000
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RHP 36
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Pierre $3,050,000 deferred
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Garland $1,500,000 option buyout
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