Dodgers Add Three to 40-Man Roster
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2009 11:35 AM PST
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The Dodgers today added three players to their 40-man roster, protecting them from next month's Rule 5 draft. Ivan DeJesus, Jr., Trayvon Robinson, and Kenley Jansen were added to the roster, bringing the Dodgers' total to 32 players on the 40-man roster, heading into the free agent signing period that begins Friday.
Here's a look at each of the new roster additions:
Ivan DeJesus, Jr., ss
True Blue LA 2010 Prospect Rank: 4th
2010 Age: 23
Acquired: 2nd round (51st overall) 2005 draft, as compensation for Adrian Beltre
Info: Baseball Reference
DeJesus broke his leg sliding into home plate in spring training and missed most of the season, playing just four games in the Arizona Rookie League at the end of the year. DeJesus is known for his plate discipline (11.5% walk rate in the minors) and defense at shortstop. With Rafael Furcal under contract through at least 2011, DeJesus's best bet to make the Dodgers in the immediate future figures to be at second base. His father, Ivan DeJesus, Sr., was signed by the Dodgers as an amateur free agent out of the Dominican Republic in 1973, and played with the club from 1974 to 1976, before getting traded with Bill Buckner and Jeff Albert to the Cubs for Rick Monday and Rick Garman. DeJesus, Sr. hit .183 in his Dodger career, the 17th lowest batting average by a non-pitcher in Dodger history (minimum 100 plate appearances).
Trayvon Robinson, of
True Blue LA 2010 Prospect Rank: 9th
2010 Age: 22
Acquired: 10th round (316th overall) 2005 draft
Info: Baseball Reference | First Inning
In addition to being a world class mascot fighter, Robinson had a breakout season in 2009. He hit .306/.375/.500 while manning center field for the 66ers in the offensively friendly Cal League, but also performed well after his promotion to Double A Chattanooga. As a Lookout, Robinson hit .246/.358/.439 in 19 games. Robinson is a local boy, from Crenshaw High. There have been three players from Crenshaw High School make the major leagues: Chris Brown, Darryl Strawberry, and Ellis Valentine. Here's an interview with Robinson from July:
Kenley Jansen, rhp
True Blue LA 2010 Prospect Rank: not in top 15
2010 Age: 22
Acquired: signed as undrafted free agent in 2005
Info: Baseball Reference | First Inning
Jansen gained a bit of notoriety as a laser-armed catcher on the upset-minded Netherlands team in the 2009 World Baseball Classic, throwing out runners from his knees. Unfortunately for Jansen, he has never hit much in the minors (.221/.311/.337 in his minor league career). However, he still has that arm, and the Dodgers converted him to a pitcher late in 2009. He is still raw, obviously, but still managed to strike out 19 batters in 11.2 innings with the 66ers. He is pitching in the Arizona Fall League currently with Peoria. If he ever makes it to the majors, I'd put even money that he ends up with the highest batting average of any Dodger ever from Curacao.
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The Rule 5 draft will be held on December 10, during the Winter Metings in Indianapolis.
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Guerra/Van Slyke
Not impressed with Guerra, so that was a good decision to me, but Van Slyke? He had a solid year and is still fairly young. Maybe it was the OF numbers game.
by silverwidow on Nov 19, 2009 11:45 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
So there's no more time to add more?
What’s the point in leaving 8 spots and unnecessarily risking losing prospects?
by Capt Obvious on Nov 19, 2009 11:47 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
They are keeping room for FAs (their own and others).
by silverwidow on Nov 19, 2009 11:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Room for FA
and, in the case of Van Slyke, the fact that no team is going to want to have to waste a 25-man roster spot on a 23-year old corner outfielder who put up an MLE of .207/.258/.352 in 2009, and has played just three games higher than Class A.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2009 11:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good point
Looks like I was overestimating the amount of prospects they had to protect.
by Capt Obvious on Nov 19, 2009 11:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
FYI
That picture was taken at Stater Bros Stadium in Adelanto (home of the Hi-A High Desert Mavericks) earlier this season.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2009 12:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Imagine if he caught on the days he didn’t pitch? :)
by silverwidow on Nov 19, 2009 12:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That would be cool. A reliever slash backup catcher. The roster flexibility is awesome!
Then we could acquire a backup catcher who can hit — cough, Gregg Zaun, cough — that can be sent up to PH once in a while without fear of losing a catching option should the catcher get hurt! :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2009 12:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Darren Dreifort…used to play right field for Wichita State and come in to close. Not a bad combo. And look at the career he had!
by KellyStephen on Nov 19, 2009 2:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he could catch himself
like I think Bugs Bunny did. That would be cool!
The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".
by underdog on Nov 19, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
At Camelback Ranch, this was the side bullpen next to one of the minor league fields. Spectators are free to walk around, and can get very close to the action. I was probably 15 feet away when I snapped this picture.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2009 12:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So is CBR better than VB?
I have a lot of nostalgia for Vero.
by Capt Obvious on Nov 19, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
As a training complex, yes, no question.
Vero Beach had the history, though, and it was still a very cool place. I didn’t get a chance to walk around and see everything at Vero Beach the one time I went.
CBR has a ton of potential for being an awesome fan experience, though, and I believe will build it’s history over time, especially if they ever get around to building a walk-of-fame type addition as was planned to tap into the historical side of Dodgers’ past.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I never went to Vero Beach
so no nostalgia for me. But moving the spring training is the right move. I probably never would have gone to Vero, but am planning on going to Glendale next year. The fan base is in the southwest, LA and Las Vegas, so a lot more fans can enjoy spring training now than in the past.
by Michael White on Nov 19, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I went to Vero Once
it was awesome. But Camelback is on a different level in terms of the facilities, which are brand new and amazing. The stadium itself is just awesome.
Going to Vero was a fluke that worked out with a family trip, I plan to go to Glendale every year. It’s a fun time.
by LA Taco on Nov 19, 2009 1:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Headline: Dodgers won't pursue Lackey: Moon continues to revolve around Earth.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-shaikin-dodgers20-2009nov20,0,2237535.story
What Would Jack Bauer Do?
by Sordid on Nov 19, 2009 1:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
no big surprise here
someone will overpay for this injury prone star of the free agent starters, and I for one am glad it will not be the Dodgers. Couple this “News” with the unattributed quote “amid predictions from other National League executives that the Dodgers could lower their payroll substantially” really makes me lose what little respect I had left for the LA Times.
by MammothDodger on Nov 19, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's a pretty obvious statement
When Manny and Juan come off the books and if they sign no big money free agents this year the payroll definitely has the potential to be much lower. The Dodgers don’t have to sign any of their free agents.
What is so off mark about the statement? That would be something the average baseball fan who reads the Times would be interested in hearing.
by Cool Dudes on Nov 19, 2009 2:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What Shaikin wrote exactly:
amid predictions from other National League executives that the Dodgers could lower their payroll substantially
1. I assumed that within the context of the article this was in reference to 2010, not 2011 and beyond.
2. "could" is a pretty soft work. One would be just as close to the tree trunk if he crept out on a limb in the other direction and said that the payroll could go up.
Dodgers President Dennis Mannion said General Manager Ned Colletti has not been ordered to trade one of the team’s eight arbitration-eligible players to save money.
3. If L.A. trades none of their arb-eligibles, Eric already estimates the opening-day payroll at $95M+ (see front page right sidebar), and it seems incredibly unlikely that several players won’t be added to the roster (2B, starting pitching, bench). Even if Eric’s arb estimates are high, unless salaries get moved via trade, it seems extremely likely that the opening-day payroll will be the same as or more than 2009.
Therefore, I think Shaikin is dabbling a bit in unsubstantiated and soft speculation, with little to no analysis behind it. But as you point out, 2011 is a different scenario, but not as much as one might think, because Manny doesn’t come completely off the books – deferrred money – and JP’s contract is the gift that keeps on giving for two more years. Eric estimates the current 2011 payroll commitments, included arbitration estimates at ~$87.5M.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 19, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 19, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
didn't mean to hit and run
I had an afternoon meeting and just got to the computer at home.
As El Lay dave points out the payroll will be about the same, based on Eric estimates of arb candidates. But the whole point of the article is how others in the division will spend more and the Dodgers COULD spend less, seems like a attempt to stir up shit not report any facts. Are we to believe that someone with knowledge of the dodgers’ plans is talking to “National League Executives” outside of the organization, who then are turning to Shaikin? I guess I simply do not believe it.
there is nothing about how the dodgers have some excellent players that are cost controlled that easily can be the match of any big name free agent out there, I would much prefer bills and clayton for the next 5-7 years to Lackey for 3-4. I will take kemp and either for that same 5-7 year period for what holliday and damon will get for 3-4.
Basing comments about the quality of the team in a strictly $ based terms is worthless.
by MammothDodger on Nov 19, 2009 9:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We still need another top tier starting picture to be a strong contendor
The need, top tier starting pitching is expensive. We will be competitive if we just sit on are hands, and I think getting rid of any of the young guys would only hurt the value of the organization, so I’m not worried that will happen, but I could easily be that other executive saying the Dodgers won’t be spending much this off season, since I don’t think there will be much money spent this offseason other than paying for the raises. Other than getting the best second baseman Juan Pierre’s contract can buy, I don’t see to many payroll additions.
While we are still in a good situation, a team with a better ownership situation would be all over trying to get some better starting pitching if they were as close as we are to a Pennant or Championship.
I don’t think it was great reporting or anything, it was just the writer’s way of telling the general public what we all know already, don’t hold your breath, more than likely there isn’t going to be any Lackey’s or any other big money free agents added to the payroll. Nobody knows this, but we all suspect it.
by Cool Dudes on Nov 19, 2009 11:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Kershaw And Bills are top tier pitchers.
I would love to see Kuroda back and healthy for a year. The staff we have put up great numbers in 2009 and I do not understand the need for an expensive “Ace”. It is, in my opinion a very small step for both our young pitchers to be every bit the pitchers that LInicuem, Wainright, Carpenter, Halliday, Sabithia or whomever else you name. Let alone John Lackey. Sure I would love to have a 3rd and 4th pitcher in that class mich like I would like our 1b to turn into Pujols and our 3b to turn in to Arod. Dreaming about it is nice.
I jsut repaet that it is my opinion that the Times article was crappy journalism in an attempt to stir up shit.
by MammothDodger on Nov 20, 2009 7:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not the Lackey part I don't like
It’s the implication that the Dodgers will essentially punt on FA. We’re talking about the #2 media market, and a payroll that could dip b/t 10-15.
by oshea2002 on Nov 19, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dodgers’ market doesn’t matter as long as they don’t have their own TV network.
by silverwidow on Nov 19, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
When do they get the rights back ?
What Would Jack Bauer Do?
by Sordid on Nov 19, 2009 2:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
2013 or 2014. I have forgotten which.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 19, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I believe it is in 2014 (the ten year period covering 2004-2013)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't agree with this line of thinking.
The Dodgers do operate in a large media market, and while they would have substantial advantages by having their own tv network, they should still be able to operate a budget from 100-120 million fairly easily while making profit. That is still a high payroll comparitively. The Dodgers annually sell a lot of season tickets and boxes to large corporations and they draw well in their average fan base as well. Small markets do not have the advantage of the entertainment industry of Hollywood who buy these tickets no matter what the product is on the field.
by Ian Capilouto on Nov 19, 2009 3:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I would also bet they do alright in merchandising
just on the sheer size of Los Angeles alone. That is a large part of the reasoning behind Arte Moreno changing the Angels name to a Los Angeles name. People buy shit that says “LA” on it because it is cool.
by Ian Capilouto on Nov 19, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm trying to figure out just how much extra revenue
that an owned TV network brings. I suspect it is significant, but I don’t know by how much. The Yankees seem to be on another planet when it comes to revenues, but if we look at 3 teams we can get a very rough idea of the impact of a TV deal.
Per Forbes, here are the 2008 revenues for the Dodgers, Mets and Red Sox (latter two own their own network):
Sox $269m
Mets $261m
Dodgers $241m
From Team Marketing, we see the average ticket price. This is rough because it only includes season tickets packages (I think) so the luxury effect isn’t necessarily captured. But it gives us an idea:
Sox: $48.80 avg ticket price x 3,048,250 attendance = ~$149m
Mets: $34.05 × 4,042,045 = ~$138m
Dodgers: $29.66 × 3,730,553 = ~$111m
Now, removing the ticket revenue, we get a picture of “other” revenue, which would include broadcast money:
Dodgers: $130m
Mets: $123m
Sox: $120m
Is there that much to gain? Or have I oversimplified this? Or is it simply a matter of the TV network making a ton of profit, which isn’t reported as baseball income? I’m not sure.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2009 3:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Do they get equal shares of the MLB TV contracts with Fox, TBS, whoever? I wouldn’t be surprised if the Sox and Mets sell a lot more merchandise.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 19, 2009 3:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
the national TV deals are split equally
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2009 3:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
On Merchandise, my guess is Sox make more, Mets less.
by Michael White on Nov 19, 2009 3:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
One thing to keep in mind is that while their revenues could surely increase, their costs would also go up significantly with the broadcast network.
by LA Taco on Nov 19, 2009 3:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you know what the merchandising revenues are?
by Ian Capilouto on Nov 19, 2009 3:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
aren’t the merchandise revenues split among the teams, except for the stuff sold in the stadiums?
by LA Taco on Nov 19, 2009 3:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why is it that I have heard the Yankees do so well in revenue
because their merchandising blows everybody else away? It is not based on percentages?
by Ian Capilouto on Nov 19, 2009 3:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The YES Network runs from
Vermont to Maryland and is broadcasted in Japan. YES just prints money.
by Michael White on Nov 19, 2009 3:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I am not sure what you are saying mwhite?
by Ian Capilouto on Nov 19, 2009 3:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Just that the YES network is very successful….
by Michael White on Nov 19, 2009 3:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, I got ya. I get it now.
YES is its own government.
by Ian Capilouto on Nov 19, 2009 3:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Eric:
I believe that part of the issue here is that the broadcast revenue doesn’t roll into the total team revenue. (I’m guessing here, but I remember reading something about this w/the Cubs years ago.) And they can play a bit of funny money because some of the revenue/costs that would show up between two entites owned by the same parent is really just paper; they decide where to bury the cost/revenue, and how much to assign. My guess is that the revenue that the Sox/Mets get from the overall broadcast network is not accounted for in the numbers above.
Why is that important? You can afford to post a $50MM loss in the baseball side if you’re making $100MM in additional profit on the TV side.
Again, not exactly sure here but I believe this to be the case.
by KellyStephen on Nov 19, 2009 8:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What is the delta between the contract the Dodgers get with FSW and KCAL9 and what they would be netting from their own network? I really don’t know, but I think it may be somewhat less than you think. Especially since the Dodgers don’t get nearly the # of viewers that teams like the Yankees and Red Sox do.
by LA Taco on Nov 19, 2009 3:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I would be interested to see the ratings Dodgers vs. Red Sox.
by Ian Capilouto on Nov 19, 2009 3:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You wouldn't be happy
the Dodgers don’t have boffo TV ratings.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 19, 2009 3:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Even with the population of Los Angeles being much larger than
New England?
by Ian Capilouto on Nov 19, 2009 3:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm fairly certain
that BHsportsguy gave us the numbers once and as I recall the % of folk in LA who watch the Dodgers is not impressive.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 19, 2009 3:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Isn’t the raw number of viewers more important? Advertisers don’t care what % of the potential audience sees their ads; they care how many people do.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 19, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the raw numbers are also quite a bit lower IIRC
by LA Taco on Nov 19, 2009 3:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
% wise, maybe not as good....
but with population, I would think that it would larger than New England just based on sheer size of the region. But maybe I am wrong.
by Ian Capilouto on Nov 19, 2009 3:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/article/63798
look at the chart in the sidebar. 69k for the Dodgers, 228k for Boston
by LA Taco on Nov 19, 2009 3:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
oops that was the angels, dodgers were 122k
by LA Taco on Nov 19, 2009 3:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Red Sox beat them by a little less than 50%
by Ian Capilouto on Nov 19, 2009 3:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
market size in Boston is 2.4m, LA is 5.6m
by LA Taco on Nov 19, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Dodgers are still top 4
in actual viewers per game though.
by Ian Capilouto on Nov 19, 2009 3:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
How is that
impressive when we have the 2nd largest market?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 19, 2009 3:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My guess would be that
when the Dodgers win a few World Series, it goes up. I find it impressive because if Los Angeles was a smaller market, their percentage would go up when compared.
by Ian Capilouto on Nov 19, 2009 3:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But I never said anything about being impressed
really. Just that a lot of people here watch the games.
by Ian Capilouto on Nov 19, 2009 3:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And that's a big part of the picture
The LA area may have more people than the Boston area, but it’s shared between two teams, Southern California between 3 teams (+ Padres), whereas the whole of New England, excepting part of Connecticut which is commuting distance from New York, is the province of one team. Philadelphia has it pretty good too – half of Pennsylvania (the more populous half) and a large hunk of New Jersey. Both those cities had two teams once upon a time, but ultimately couldn’t support two, unlike New York, LA abd Chicago, which still have shared regions.
by berkowit28 on Nov 19, 2009 4:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
On the Red Sox/Yankee dividing line
I thought this article was fun.
by Michael White on Nov 19, 2009 4:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Here are the numbers.
Dodgers only got a 2.0 rating. Red Sox at 12.1
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2009 3:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
WOW
let it not be said that the New Englanders do not support their team.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 19, 2009 3:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
there are too many other things to do in LA, even though it is a much bigger market.
by LA Taco on Nov 19, 2009 3:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps
or more likely, the Red Sox are the number 1 team in town there, and the Dodgers are certainly not here.
by Michael White on Nov 19, 2009 3:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah I guess if you add Angles and Dodgers together you get pretty close.
by LA Taco on Nov 19, 2009 3:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
although that doesn’t account for market size…
by LA Taco on Nov 19, 2009 3:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And the Lakers
and USC Football and UCLA basketball.
by Michael White on Nov 19, 2009 3:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not like New England
doesn’t have big time college programs they follow.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 19, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They don't
Boston College doesn’t draw nearly like USC.
I guess UConn basketball would be close to UCLA basketball….
by Michael White on Nov 19, 2009 3:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What
do you think BC’s TV view numbers are compared to UCLA?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 19, 2009 3:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
BC football or basketball?
I was talking about USC football being compared to BC football. I don’t think UCLA tv numbers are very high…
I have no idea how UCLA and BC’s basketball numbers would stack up.
by Michael White on Nov 19, 2009 3:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Doubtfully
everyone in Boston watches the Celtics/Sox/Patriots while a much smaller % do that in LA.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 19, 2009 3:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was surprised by that one. As a reliever, he is likely a goner (an easy stash on any team)
I’m not sure why the club needs eight open spots on the 40-man, since (a) we aren’t signing that many free agents, and (b) Repko will likely be off the 40-man by December 12, if not by spring training (with Stults), which opens up another 1-2 spots anyway.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If Guerra was placed on a major league team, his stats might look like Greg Miller’s from the last couple years.
by silverwidow on Nov 19, 2009 2:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sure, but he might be acceptable to somebody like the Pirates who will suck anyway.
by kensai on Nov 19, 2009 3:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If he was even league average for a couple years
i would barf
what a waste
by kensai on Nov 19, 2009 3:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
u saw one of his appearances where he was wild
and now he has the control of greg miller… nice
by matthewmafa on Nov 19, 2009 3:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
In the MAJOR LEAGUES, he very well could walk 6 batters per 9 IP.
Look at his BB/9 from 2009.
by silverwidow on Nov 19, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I even mentioned down below his 5.1 BB/9 at AA last season.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 19, 2009 3:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
but Greg Miller is a category unto himself. Steve Blass and Rick Ankiel shudder at the thought of entering the wildness that is the Greg Miller zone.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess part of the problem is that I saw Guerra wear a #32 Dodger jersey. Pissed me off a little. :)
by silverwidow on Nov 19, 2009 3:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
For instance
Javy Guerra: 4.0 BB/9 in low A & AA in 2009.
Greg Miller last four years in four levels: 9.2 BB/9!!
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2009 3:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Mascots scramble for cover as Greg Miller approaches the mound.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 19, 2009 3:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yup he was bad in AA
but most pitcher control gets worse as they go up.. give the guy one more year he will be dominant.. he throws 96
by matthewmafa on Nov 19, 2009 3:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
For instance
Guerra in AA in 2009: 5.1 BB/9, 9.2 K/9
Belisario in AA in 2008: 3.9 BB/9, 5.7 K/9
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2009 3:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I especially don't like that they didn't protect him
because I pre-wrote this post, including both Guerra and Van Slyke, and in Guerra’s summary I had a link to his blog, in which he admitted to being addicted to Farm Town on Facebook. :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2009 2:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's reason enough to not protect him:)
What Would Jack Bauer Do?
by Sordid on Nov 19, 2009 2:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My wife loves one of those farm games (Farm Town or FarmVille, I forgot which one) and YoVille.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 19, 2009 3:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
FarmVille
So does mine. They’re like crack for women.
How eerie is that?
by Capt Obvious on Nov 20, 2009 12:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Just guessing
Perhaps they consider it unlikely that he would stick on a 25-man roster – even on a team desperate for pitching like the Nats – as a RH reliever, given that he has only 28 1/3 IP experience above the A+ level, and he wasn’t that good (small sample size) at Chattanooga, e.g. 5.1 BB/9. Also, they started him at low-A this past season, after two years in A+ ball.
And if he is drafted, there is a good chance they can get him back, make $25,000, and give George Genovese a raise. ;)
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 19, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It would be pretty damn funny if they partially based their decision to expose Guerra on a negative scouting report by Genovese :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2009 2:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well I just don't get the need for so many open spots,
then again, i’m trading four 40-man roster guys on my plan, so I have 11 open spots to begin with.
by kensai on Nov 19, 2009 3:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You gotta think like Ned
2B, one or two SP, a vet RP to replace Mota, two or three bench players, why that’s five to seven slots right there!
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 19, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Who was the last Rule 5 player the Dodgers drafted and kept?
D. J. Houlton? He had two full years at AA/AAA when L.A.drafted him.
Who was the last player L.A. lost to Rule 5 that stayed on a major-league roster? Wesley Wright? He had 1.5 years at AA/AAA when Houston drafted him away from the Dodgers.
I’m guessing losing Guerra is a longshot.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 19, 2009 3:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Wright is more recent and wasn’t Victorino offered back but the Dodgers declined to take him, which allowed Philadelphia to keep him in AAA and off the 25-man all year?
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 19, 2009 3:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Remember that he was drafted away the year before by the Padres – and actually played in the majors a little – before being offered back to L.A. If he hadn’t been taken back, he would have been a Padres minor-leaguer. Maybe he’d be tormenting us more in the regular season, but he wouldn’t be doing it in the playoffs as a Phillie!
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 19, 2009 3:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes to both
I remember they drafted Jose Antonio Nunez from the Padres one year, but Terry Adams (of all people) got pissed that Nunez was brought into high leverage games, and Nunez was eventually shipped back to SD
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2009 3:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dodgers just being ultra cheap?
1. Don’t players on the 40 man get substantial raises?
2. 50,000 for Javy probably appeals to Frank right now. That is about 100 good divorce lawyer hours.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 19, 2009 3:21 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
We need Guerra’s would-be roster spot for LINDBLOM anyway.
by silverwidow on Nov 19, 2009 3:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice.
Plus Withrow in August. ;)
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by David Young on Nov 19, 2009 3:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
minimum minor league salary for first major league contract is $32,500.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2009 3:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So a nice raise for Mr. Jansen?
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by David Young on Nov 19, 2009 3:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Now he can afford to look for men with two arms!
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2009 3:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously
Jansen was such a good catcher he’d be a perfect 3rd string catcher while working out of the bullpen.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 19, 2009 3:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Even though Frank N Ned said that business will continue as usual I won’t believe it until I see it. I think we are headed for a strange winter so I’m having a hard time getting into the winter since I have zero idea of what we have to work with. I almost feel like cocooning and see where we are on March 1st.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 19, 2009 3:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Does Cocooning involve Jessica Tandy at all?
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2009 3:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Tahnee Welch
would be more my style.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 19, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey
I’d take that in a 2nd, not like I’m going to marry her and worry about the craziness. When she was doing the MTV shots she was the hottest thing on TV.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 19, 2009 3:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No just older
with such limited options I wouldn’t be as discerning.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 19, 2009 3:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Older ladies are hot anyway.
I would do it.
by Ian Capilouto on Nov 19, 2009 4:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey
We have a mission for you then with Ms McCourt :)
by Cool Dudes on Nov 19, 2009 6:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There is quite likely wisdom in the idea of “cocooning” at least until the deadline to offer arbitration happens. Outside of re-signing your own FAs that you want, there isn’t much incentive to do a whole lot until then.
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by David Young on Nov 19, 2009 3:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We could keep getting
irritated at rumors like Mathew:)
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 19, 2009 3:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Now it's Den N Ned
Looks like they’ve put a muzzle on Frank til after the divorce rap is done.
Wiffle ball is fun
Attempting to decypher “Piffle Ball With Dennis Mannion” should be challenging and at times hilarious, other times it may leave me with a very desperate feeling …
by 68elcamino427 on Nov 19, 2009 8:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ethier kemp kershaw or bills plus prospects for halladay???
why do reports KEEp on coming out on this stupid deal
by matthewmafa on Nov 19, 2009 3:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Things that are cool
Old Hoss Radbourn is now following TBLA on Twitter. Huzzah!!
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2009 3:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Will Carroll (Haren 3rd) and Keith Law (Vazquez 2nd) were the two non-Carpenter voters. Apparently they are taking heat on the MLB Network…haven’t seen it yet.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2009 3:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Vazquez had some incredible peripheral numbers but I expect old time voters were not thinking of him as a top five guy.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 19, 2009 3:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Do a Twitter search for Keith Law or Will Carroll and a ton of the tweets are laughably insane.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2009 4:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I've never done a Twitter search
and I don’t think I’m going to start now.
Anyone catch the Colbert show on Wednesday Night when he did the 12th California district and found that YouTube was in the district. He then showed a youtube employee watching someone finish a spreadsheet. Made me laugh.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 19, 2009 4:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
St. Louis radio hosts, embarrassing themselves (interview with Keith Law):
http://www.101espn.com/section/wxos_audio_archive
Can’t find direct link to file.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2009 4:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dodger Winter League Numbers
http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/org.jsp?id=la
Lucas May ended up on fire and Lambo ended up like a lamb. Not a very impressive OPS for the AFL. McDonald not off to a good start, in fact hard to find a Dodger off to a decent start. They are all mostly struggling.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 19, 2009 3:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
DeJesus
for some reason is not in the MLB Winter League Recap. They seem to be missing the PR league. Good thing, because he’s sucking so far.
http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=SS&sid=l132&t=p_pbp&pid=474443
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 19, 2009 3:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Brian Sabean: doesn’t want the Giants used to give leverage to a player hoping to pry more money from the Yankees, Red Sox, or other big-market teams*"
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/11/giants-unlikely-to-pursue-holliday-bay.html
*besides the Dodgers, of course!
by LA Taco on Nov 19, 2009 3:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Giant offensive future took
a huge dump with the arrest of Angel Villalona. That would be like us losing…. Well we have no teen agers who can hit so we don’t have a comparable but he was a top four prospect for them.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 19, 2009 4:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Movie popcorn…not healthy. Still delicious though!
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-and-world/la-sci-movie-popcorn19-2009nov19,0,4003634.story
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2009 4:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I don't care what they say.
Just give me mass butter on it.
by Ian Capilouto on Nov 19, 2009 4:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't watch a movie
without eating popcorn but I have been able to say no to the butter.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 19, 2009 4:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I can get by w/o the butter, but the popcorn is great.
Every once in a while, buttered popcorn is a treat though.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2009 4:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I always have the buttered at home
since I can pop it and then divide it into bowls so my wife can have the unbuttered and I get the buttered, but I suspect my butter at home is a bit more healthy then the movie stuff as is my popcorn.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 19, 2009 4:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I try to avoid the liquidy stuff at the theaters
by Eric Stephen on Nov 19, 2009 4:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I also have a hard time eating pizza. I can't stop. I become like a pizza eating machine
I usually end up with indigestion.
by Ian Capilouto on Nov 19, 2009 4:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I do that with Spaghetti
Even after I’m stuffed I have to go for more. It is the only food I do that with.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 19, 2009 4:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Spaghetti too.
I love that stuff.
by Ian Capilouto on Nov 19, 2009 4:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of pizza, Charlie’s Trio makes a STRONG pie. I love crust that just melts in your melt; not that chewy crap you get some places.
Good stuff.
by silverwidow on Nov 19, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I will be creating a pizza when I get home tonight.
It has been decided. Where is Charlie’s Trio?
by Ian Capilouto on Nov 19, 2009 4:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I live in Alhambra, so the closest one to me is on Main St. It’s more of a dine-in place than take-out, but they’ll do both. I guess you could peruse their website for exact locations.
by silverwidow on Nov 19, 2009 4:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.charliestrio.com/about-us.html
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 19, 2009 4:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
DeWitt is playing in this
Dominican League game if anyone’s interested (link from Diamond Leung)
DeWitt playing RT @ESPN360 WATCH LIVE: Liga Dominicana de Beisbol – Tigres del Licey vs. Aguilas Cibaenas (SPA) – http://tinyurl.com/ybrxhnt
It’s en Espanol.
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by underdog on Nov 19, 2009 5:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
And he's up third
in this next half inning.
The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".
by underdog on Nov 19, 2009 5:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wendell Kim
Anyone remember him? Giants’ 3B coach who used to run like a bat out of hell. Funny stuff.
by silverwidow on Nov 19, 2009 10:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
And about 5’5"?
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 19, 2009 11:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I forgot to mention this earlier
Ivan DeJesus, Sr. was also later traded to Philadelphia – rather infamously from a Phillie perspective – by the Cubs for future HOFer Ryne Sandberg and current Dodger 3B coach Larry Bowa.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 19, 2009 11:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Buster Olney is saying Martin could be traded.
In the unlikely event that happens, I really really hope Bengie Molina is not on Ned’s wishlist. That would be the biggest waste of a 1st round pick.
by silverwidow on Nov 20, 2009 9:34 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
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