Kensai gives us his 2010 plan
Right off the bat, I like the fact he's not increasing payroll and is basing his decisions on the current payroll. Anyone can make a better team by increasing payroll but that scenario may be unrealistic so let us see what he comes up with playing by the same rules as last year.
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another plan
or the same one LA taco posted on a fanshot a few days ago>?
Same plan
but I wanted it on the front page and while I can add it to the front page I can’t modify the date on fanshots so it will be lost under the other posts. It is a solid plan, I only have a few things I’d change but he addresses so many Dodger issues that everyone should read it.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I think its a great plan too
Not sure if the numbers would work, but in terms of locking players up, I wouldn’t lock up Ethier and would throw that money into locking up Kershaw. Not sure if that would be enough to get it done though.
To me, Kershaw would be more of a priority than Ethier. If the Dodgers are going to have to operate along these lines (budget wise) Ethier is a player I would let walk once he is a FA.
I don’t think the Dodgers have any plans of locking up CK while he’s making 400K a year.
by silverwidow on Nov 23, 2009 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
too much risk involved with locking up a 21 year old
pitcher…
i would not lock him up and go year by year..
by matthewmafa on Nov 23, 2009 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
You wouldn't lock him up at all?
Or you wouldn’t lock him up until he reaches arbitration?
by Michael White on Nov 23, 2009 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
once he reachs arb..
right now it would be too big of a risk..
by matthewmafa on Nov 23, 2009 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
Got it
Yup, you all make good points.
by Michael White on Nov 23, 2009 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
I have no interest
in locking up Kershaw right now unless he signed a Longoria type deal.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 23, 2009 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
That decision was made because
Kershaw is making the minimum and Ethier is not.
The Dodgers can’t afford to bump his salary to like 3 million, as I technically went 1-2 million overbudget as it was. Otherwise, yes, I completely agree that Kershaw to a 6 or 7 year deal would be priority.
If the Dodgers had money, I would gamble on Billingsley as well.
is Uggla Worth It?
- decent power, but who knows how that changes once he’s at Dodger Stadium
- strikes out all the time
- defense is awful
- $5.3 million salary
do we really need another russell martin?
Uggla will make far more than $5.35m in 2010. That’s what he made in his first year of arb (2009). I would guess that we will make something like $19m over the next two years (both arbitration eligible)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2009 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
that's why you're the boss
but you’re just helping my point. wouldn’t our money be better off spent on pitching?
I don’t think I would pursue Uggla, because the cost in traded players would be high too. But I am intrigued, since as LA Taco said he is really the only power option at 2B.
However, I think an Uggla/SP combo could be had, especially if the SP signee (Wolf?) signs a McCourt special deferred contract, to ease some of the 2010 budget.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2009 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
Another good option
with very good defense too.
Roughly same money over the next two years. I guess it would depend on the Reds asking price.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2009 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
Have any of these teams strongly indicated that they are willing to
trade these guys?
by Ian Capilouto on Nov 23, 2009 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
Regarding Uggla
the answer is yes.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 23, 2009 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
I'm off to a company lunch
but I’ll track some down. Granted they are just rumors but your are not going to find a source that has the Marlin GM being quoted as “I’m moving Uggla”.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 23, 2009 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
I love me potlucks
Turkey, lasagna, macNcheese, hot wings, barbecued wings, garlic mashed potatoes, creamed corn, and a plethora baked desserts. Small company living at it’s finest.
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Phillips
seems like it was mostly speculation, as beat writer John Fay said on Saturday:
Trading Brandon Phillips, I’m told, to balance the budget is not an option
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2009 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
dont like phillips
hes really a plattoon player…
vs LHP in career .295 .343 .509 .852
vs RHP in career .253 .301 .399 .700
plus hes been a lot better at home then on the road the last 2 years
Also he has had an advantage of playing in The cincinnatti Bandbox…
Home :.272 .323 .454 .777
Road: .257 .302 .407 .709
if you think ugglas power would decline in doder stadium then just imagine what wwould happen to brandon phillips
by matthewmafa on Nov 23, 2009 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
I think his defense is actually sub-par, but not awful. There’s a big difference. But that may not be accurate, there are no perfect defense metrics.
I think the deal with Uggla is that 2B is the only position the Dodgers really have a chance to get more power out of, and he’s the only available 2B with that kind of pop.
plus the guy is improving big time...
check out his walk totals…
he gonna hit 30 Home runs next year, strike out at least 140 times… walk 90 times…
if mccourt wants to win he would get this guy…
imagine a lineup of manny ethier kemp and uggla with loney protecting them as a dependable RBI man.. with casey blake there too..
by matthewmafa on Nov 23, 2009 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
That would be a sweet lineup, for sure
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2009 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
I like it
Furcal SS
Kemp CF
Ethier RF
Manny LF
Uggla 2B
Loney 1B
Blake 3B
Martin C
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2009 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
i really hate putting furcal and his .330 OBP first..
but its really the only option..
and lol no russell martin isnt a option..
by matthewmafa on Nov 23, 2009 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah
I just figured we pretty much know Furcal will be leading off
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2009 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
If Mama's boy would take that damn "J" off of his uni
he’d be back to normal. i swear that’s all it’ll take!
He didn’t have the “J” in the second half of 2008 :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2009 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
it sounds great
but i have a feeling he’ll lose power at Dodger Stadium. 1 homerun in 51 career at bats there.
I don’t think that’s the best way to judge how Uggla would do in LA.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2009 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
meant to add after the comma: although that looked like it hurt. Why the hell were they chucking hams around anyway?
the first rule of Ham Throw is that there is no Ham Throw
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2009 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
I’d save the money and players and just go with DeWitt/Belliard until DeJesus is ready. Spend the money on more pitching.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I guess the time is about right for a dueling TBLA plan
though we’d probably agree more then disagree.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 23, 2009 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
i doubt dejsus is ready till 2011
broken legs dont heal fast..
by matthewmafa on Nov 23, 2009 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
in Billingsley’s case, I hope just the one year is enough. (If in fact his leg led to him hitting a wall and getting fatigued later in the season, I don’t know)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2009 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
yeah..
i think bills being average in the 2nd half was his leg more then anything…
by matthewmafa on Nov 23, 2009 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
I thought
you said it was because he doesn’t throw a change-up:)
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You would go for like Harden or something instead?
I think even if we don’t have Uggla, we have about 11 million to get a 2B and a pitcher.
I think we have 11 Million
to get two pitchers and one 2nd baseman, which is why Uggla will be two expensive for us. And that is with moving Pierre’s contract which may or may not happen.
So while I’d love Sheets/Harden/Bedard I don’t expect to end up with anything but Padilla/Garland. We really should do two outlooks, one we’d do if we were GM and one we expect Ned to do based on his historical tendancies.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Last year Garland signed a contract in late January that guaranteed him $9.75M for 1 year if the team declined the 2010 option (at $10M), which the Dodgers did. Garland is a year older, but had better results and slightly better peripherals in 2009, so a similar contract for next year isn’t out of the question.
The questions about Padilla’s makeup stemming from his DFA out of Texas may lower demand for him some, he’s two years older than Garland, and his results over several seasons have been worse than Garland’s, so I’d guess he ends up with less than Garland, perhaps more incentive-laden.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 25, 2009 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
Given the Current Realities
I like the idea of signing the guys to the long term contracts to stabilize the organization.
Then, once ownership gets settled it would be pretty easy to just add some free agents and bam, you have a great team again.
I would probably just stalk the infield from the farm and go after starting pitching though if there is any money to sign free agents.
Also
The Dodgers should be accounting the profits for 2008 and 2009 to pay for the players with deferred compensation (Manny, AJ, Nomar, etc.). The money should be expensed already, so you shouldn’t really be counting on future profits to pay for past compensation (i.e. you should put the future salaries in the bank from the profits and accumulate interest until they are paid). If you don’t, it is just a shell game that you are eventually going to loose. But given current ownership, mortgaging the future for the past is probably a done deal and exactly why I want those guys out.
Nobody defers money if they have it.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 23, 2009 12:50 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Right,
Profits went to interest payments on loans.
Its a big shell game that will collapse eventually without the infusion of more capital.
Deferring salary is also a way of earning profits before having to pay out an investment, players are agreeable because they have to stretch out their earnings over their lifetime anyway and the money, unlike the stock market is guaranteed.
But the idea should be that the “investment” only has a beneficial affect that lasts for one year, the year you the player played, so you need to pay for it that year. It doesn’t add any value past that time (no one went to a game this year based upon what Nomar did last year), so it should be paid for from profits at that time. So it can also be used as a responsible way to maintain cash flow, not just as a “free” loan.



















