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Ethier Finishes 6th, Kemp Gets 10th in NL MVP Voting

For the first time in 18 years, the Dodgers had a pair of outfielders receive votes for Most Valuable PlayerAndre Ethier and Matt Kemp, who each won Silver Slugger awards last week, finished 6th and 10th, respectively in the balloting, which was won by Albert Pujols of the Cardinals.  Brett Butler (7th) and Darryl Strawberry (9th), in 1991, were the last Dodger outfield duo to receive MVP votes.

Ethier received two 2nd place votes, three 4th place votes, two 5th place votes, five 6th place votes, four 7th place votes, five 8th place votes, and three 9th place votes, appearing on 24 of 32 ballots.

Kemp received two 4th place votes, one 5th place vote, two 6th place votes, three 7th place votes, one 8th place vote, one 9th place vote, and two 10th place votes, appearing on 12 of 32 ballots.

Full results can be found at the Baseball Writers Association of America website.

LA Dodger Outfield Duos in MVP Voting
Year Player Player
2009     
Andre Ethier 6th      Matt Kemp 10th
1991 Brett Butler 7th Darryl Strawberry  
9th
1985 Pedro Guerrero  
3rd Mike Marshall t-14th
1974 Jimmy Wynn 5th Bill Buckner t-25th
1962 Tommy Davis 3rd Frank Howard 9th
1959 Wally Moon 4th Duke Snider t-22nd

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yeah seriously. If Mauer gets extra points for playing C, shouldn’t a 2B with power, speed, and impeccable defense get some extra points as well? A monster bat at 1B or RF is expected, but at 2B? Rare.

by LA Taco on Nov 24, 2009 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

14 voters didn’t even think he was one of the ten most valuable players in the league, leaving him off their ballots entirely. What a crock.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 24, 2009 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

See the link below. That Giants’ guy did include Utley on his ballot.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 25, 2009 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s also not the guy who gave the ridiculous third place vote to Sandoval.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Nov 25, 2009 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

How the fuck did Jeremy Affeldt get an MVP vote???

by silverwidow on Nov 24, 2009 11:23 AM PST reply actions  

Ha!

I was just about to ask that same question.

by Sam PHL on Nov 24, 2009 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Not surprisingly that vote came from a Giants beat writer, from the San Jose Mercury news.

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by David Young on Nov 24, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

o wow...

wow just wow… he was really good at the end of games and getting DP to get em out of jams but come on…

by matthewmafa on Nov 24, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I find the BBWAA writeups on the awards quite non-compelling reading, which may qualify as irony given that they are the “Writer’s Association”. The voting table is good, but almost the entire article would be better represented as tables; you know, like a blog would do it.

At least their pages are no longer black text on retina-burning green backgrounds…..

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by David Young on Nov 24, 2009 11:45 AM PST reply actions  

They should have numbered the table also. Quick, in what place did Jayson Werth finish?

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by David Young on Nov 24, 2009 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Weakening the enemy?

Castro close to joining Phillies:

"We’re close to having a deal done," Suarez said by phone. "We’re just a physical away from getting this done. He’s excited about joining the Phillies. It’s tough to leave an organization like the Dodgers, but if you’re joining the Phillies, maybe it’s not as tough."

by Eric Stephen on Nov 24, 2009 12:31 PM PST reply actions  

Not really weakening

When you’re replacing a guy with a career OPS+ of 64 (Bruntlett) with Castro. It’s probably just a lateral move for them.

by Sam PHL on Nov 24, 2009 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Castro probably plays better defense.

by Tripon on Nov 24, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

So Hu’s our utility IF ?

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by David Young on Nov 24, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Defensively

Guerrero and Marshall have to be the worst pair up there. Though Guerrero did make more of his starts in the OF, he also made more starts at 3B – 44 – than any other Dodger that year.

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by David Young on Nov 24, 2009 12:55 PM PST reply actions  

one 8th place vote, one 9th place vote, and two 9th place votes, appearing on 12 of 32 ballots.

i think he recieved 2 10th place votes…

by matthewmafa on Nov 24, 2009 1:41 PM PST reply actions  

Fixed, thanks.

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by David Young on Nov 24, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Tommy Davis - Frank Howard

Had Davis not broken that ankle so badly maybe those two could have played together a few more years.

by 68elcamino427 on Nov 24, 2009 1:44 PM PST reply actions  

I bet if there was a poll of who they’d rather trade, Billingsley or Brent Leach, more people at LA Times (non-DT) would choose Chad.

by silverwidow on Nov 24, 2009 2:14 PM PST reply actions  

Nobody knows of Brent Leach.

by Tripon on Nov 24, 2009 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

That would be my thoughts too

that’s like saying that the same poll would find more people interested in trading Withrow instead of Pierre.

Because people know Pierre and don’t know Withrow, and guys like Plaschke believe prospects exist solely to be pieces in trades.

by Michael White on Nov 24, 2009 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

So using that logic

More people would choose Leach because they don’t know him?

by silverwidow on Nov 24, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

No, more people would choose billinglsey because they know him and already formed negative opinions about.

by Tripon on Nov 24, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

See, I think Joe Dodger Fan has such irrational Billingsley hate that they’d rather keep a LOOGY over someone who they’ve been brainwashed to think sucks.

by silverwidow on Nov 24, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Its a false choice though. They’re making the choice of what they know about Billingsley, not of what they know of Billingsley and Leach. In your informal poll, the choices are

- Keep Billingsley
-Trade Billingsley.

by Tripon on Nov 24, 2009 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Leach really isn’t an unknown, though. Torre was throwing him out there a lot. He was horrible at the end, but had enough good spots that some might think he’s good.

by silverwidow on Nov 24, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re comparing two months of Leach during the middle of the season to Chad’s 4 years in the league.

by Tripon on Nov 24, 2009 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Not really. I’m just taking into account the attention span of the buffoons who want to trade Billingsley.

by silverwidow on Nov 24, 2009 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly, LAT makes it sound like the only way to get Holliday

would be to trade Bills.

And also that Holliday is the ONLY possible pitcher the Dodgers could get.

by Cool Dudes on Nov 24, 2009 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

If Plachke ran the Dodgers, the payroll would be over $300 million, and they’re get about 85 wins each year. Basically a more expensive Astros team.

by Tripon on Nov 24, 2009 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

How the hell did Ethier get two 2nd place votes? =P

Seriously, though two people thought he was the 2nd best player in all of the NL?

by Tripon on Nov 24, 2009 2:25 PM PST reply actions  

It's ridiculous Matt Kemp did not Garnish more respect

Matt Kemp was the premier CF on a playoff team playing fantastic defense and was the most VALUABLE (WAR) OF in the National League. I’m glad Either got the “walk off” votes, but seriously, KEMP is a true MVP type candidate.

by sean8686 on Nov 24, 2009 3:10 PM PST reply actions  

I like Garnish. It looks good with steak. :)

by silverwidow on Nov 24, 2009 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm confused

Are we bitching about Ethier being too high or Kemp too low?

I think players on teams who have more than one great player really suffer in the voting and rightfully so, there can only be one MVP per team by definition. Thus Howard got the nod over Utley and Ethier over Kemp.

It isn’t necessarily so, but just the way it went.

by Cool Dudes on Nov 24, 2009 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

ethier is not too high..

he deserves it.. but kemp you can say is a little low but i think i like his placement too…

by matthewmafa on Nov 24, 2009 7:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Ethier was too high

Especially when Utley and Braun were below him.

by Ivdown on Nov 24, 2009 9:42 PM PST up reply actions  

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