Dodgers Decline Garland's 2010 Option
by Eric Stephen on Nov 5, 2009 9:51 AM PST
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In an unsurprising move, the Dodgers have declined the 2010 $10 million option on Jon Garland, per Dylan Hernandez of the Los Angeles Times. By declining the option, Garland is owed a $2.5 million buyout. Per terms of the August 31 trade with Arizona, the Diamondbacks are paying that buyout.
Kensai at Memories of Kevin Malone said it best:
Garland gave the Dodgers his best during his tenure, as he posted a 2.72 ERA in six starts, but he is exactly the type of guy you want to cut bait with after the season concludes. The Dodgers got excellent performance out of him that likely boosted his value, but his career shows an overwhelming trend of mediocrity, so let somebody else pay for an illusion.
Per terms of the trade with Arizona, the Dodgers cannot offer Garland arbitration if he is deemed a Type A free agent. Thanks to MLB Trade Rumors and Detroit Tigers Thoughts, who have diligently tracked the free agent rankings, project Garland to be a Type B free agent, meaning the Dodgers could offer Garland arbitration if they so choose. Then again, since Garland would almost certainly achieve a salary in arbitration reasonably close to the $10 million option just declined by the Dodgers, don't expect the club to offer him arbitration.
That Jon Garland didn't play in the postseason cemented his Dodger legacy as an insurance policy, albeit with an expensive premium. For those six starts, the Dodgers gave up middle infielder Tony Abreu, who has five more seasons before hitting free agency.
| 2010 Dodger Options | |||
| Player | Option | Buyout | Status |
| Will Ohman | $2.2 million | $200,000 | declined |
| Jon Garland | $10 million | $2.5 million (paid by AZ) | declined |
| Manny Ramirez | $20 million | none (player option) | pending |
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5 years of tony abreu
for 6 starts of jon garland.. nice
by matthewmafa on Nov 5, 2009 9:55 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
ya that stings
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
by Ollie on Nov 5, 2009 1:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
FANTASTIC NEWS
Fourth or fifth starters are NOT worth anywhere near 10M.
by silverwidow on Nov 5, 2009 10:12 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I agree that Garland is more than likely not worth $10M, but a pitcher who is going to give you a healthy 2 WAR season is nothing to put down. Had the economy not gone into the tank $10M per season is just about exactly what Garland should be worth ($5M per WAR). Obviously, after last years offseason we saw that the $5M per WAR was going to be a pipe dream for anyone not lucky enough to sign with the Yankees. I think some people are just put off by Garland because he doesn’t have a high ceiling. He will fit in nicely in the middle of some other teams rotation.
vr, Xei
by Xeifrank on Nov 5, 2009 10:22 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
McCourt Update
from NBC’s Conan Nolan:
Just got out…Court Commissioner denies Jamie Court’s motion
and
Jamie McCourt says the Dodgers are community property…judge didn’t rule on that issue…
by Eric Stephen on Nov 5, 2009 10:27 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
the whole Dodgers-as-community-property thing will have to come out in trial.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 5, 2009 11:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
although Joshua Fisher of Dodger Divorce says court starting evaluations of post-nup on November 30
by Eric Stephen on Nov 5, 2009 11:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait a minute?????????
Commissioner Gordon was the name of the Court Commissioner? That is so funny! What are the odds! Batman jokes please
by Julio Nievas on Nov 5, 2009 11:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Cross posting this with DT. Check out the letter that Governer Arnold sent the state legislature.
vr, Xei
by Xeifrank on Nov 5, 2009 10:34 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
chin min wang
if the yanks non tender him.. i think he would be a great 1 year low risk signing..
by matthewmafa on Nov 5, 2009 10:56 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Only for extremely low money plus incentives.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 5, 2009 10:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I saw that earlier
my thought was “they know we have three OF, right?” :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 5, 2009 11:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
In the immortal words of coach Norman Dale, “my team is on the floor.”
by Eric Stephen on Nov 5, 2009 11:07 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Only if he's playing in the Colosseum
and LF is better described as deep short. Maybe then he has what could pass for an OFers arm.
by EMDarrow on Nov 5, 2009 11:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess Ethier is getting packaged with top prospects to play in Canada then.
vr, Xei
by Xeifrank on Nov 5, 2009 11:18 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Please correct me where I'm wrong here
It’s my knowledge that the divorce trial won’t be until next year.
If they rule that the team is community property, then the team would then be sold right away I’d imagine. In which case we could have an owner by the January of 2011.
If they rule that Frank is the sole owner, it could get interesting. It’s unclear right now how much $$ the McCourts really have. If Frank is the sole owner, would have have enough money to run the team? Would he be able to find investors?
My guess is that the court is going to find the team community property. Simply because it was bought with money that both of them earned during the 30 year period, and they earned it together. That, and it’s California.
If things move quickly I could see the team hitting the market before the season starts.
by pdotmac1 on Nov 5, 2009 11:19 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Depends what the 29 other owners think of the time he beat up Doug Christie in the locker room tunnel.
vr, Xei
by Xeifrank on Nov 5, 2009 11:29 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
This should go green
2009-10 LA Kings Hockey: Where Smyt Happens!!
by DodgerBlueBalls on Nov 5, 2009 12:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea, I see “no way” this is not considered community property. And by “this” I mean the LA Dodgers, not TBLA. And I assume you meant January of 2010?? One would think they would get a reasonable amount of time to sell given the circumstance of the market for such a commodity. It’s not like a house or car that you can sell in days, weeks or a few months.
vr, Xei
by Xeifrank on Nov 5, 2009 11:27 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't she sign something saying that the team belongs to Frank only?
If so, wouldn’t that essentially function as a post-nuptial agreement?
by Michael White on Nov 5, 2009 11:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It could, but her lawyers are going to argue that the agreement was signed for the purpose of creditors. And even if it is valid, it’s going to be hard for a judge to ignore the fact that the team was bought with money the two of them earned over the course of 30 years. Unless they have enough assets for her to get half of their total value, I don’t see how he keeps the team.
by pdotmac1 on Nov 5, 2009 11:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So she's arguing that they were really commiting fraud? :)
by Tripon on Nov 5, 2009 11:42 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
How is it fraud? I would call it being creative. Shady at worst. Of course, I don’t know all the details.
vr, Xei
by Xeifrank on Nov 5, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
“I really didn’t sign away my rights to the Dodgers, except I kinda did when I signed a document that I said I did?”
Really, she is a lawyer. The judge is going to ask her what she got out of such a document, and she’ll have to answer that question.
by Tripon on Nov 5, 2009 11:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think that will be very easy for her lawyers to wiggle out of. Just say that was the only way they could make the purchase. It doesn’t hide the fact that the team was bought with half (community property) of her money.
vr, Xei
by Xeifrank on Nov 5, 2009 11:48 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
It doesn’t hide the fact that the team was bought with half (community property) of her money
Good point. I’m no lawyer, but that seems logical enough to me.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 5, 2009 11:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Couldn't he argue
that he knew his wife was a tramp and he wouldn’t have bought the Dodgers unless she forfeited the right to argue the team is half hers if/when she decided to disregard their marital vows.
Whether she signed it for creditors or not, I don’t see why that document would be disregarded.
by Michael White on Nov 5, 2009 11:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Even if he is the sole owner, she would still be entitled to half of what they have attained during their marriage. And since the Dodgers account for much more than 50% of that they have attained, Frank will either need investors with money, or a sale would be forced.
That’s at least what I gather from everything I’ve read or been told
by pdotmac1 on Nov 5, 2009 11:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If they had a pre-nup signed which limited her payout at the end of the marriage at say $4MM, would that document be disregarded as well?
That question is not rhetorical, I’m curious.
by Michael White on Nov 5, 2009 11:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Another hypothetical
Husband and wife want to buy a house. Wife has bad credit. Husband has good. They have plenty of money to make the down payment, but need a loan for the rest. Husband alone can qualify for the loan needed. So the couple leaves the wives name off of the mortgage application. They get financed and purchase the house. The house is under the husbands name, the down payment was made with community property. The couple gets divorced. Should the house be community property?
vr, Xei
by Xeifrank on Nov 5, 2009 11:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, it should
but it seems like it was more complex then that.
Jamie (allegedly) signed a document which seems to me like a post-nuptial agreement. In this case, the more apples to apples comparison would be if the wife in your analogy above, took the step to enter into a legal agreement between her and her husband, in addition to the agreement between the husband and lender.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I am under the impression that Jamie signed something with Frank as the counter-party—- not the creditor.
by Michael White on Nov 5, 2009 12:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, you are right… it is more complex than that. This is a learning process for most of us, and hopefully something that very few of us ever have to go through (divorce litigation).
vr, Xei
by Xeifrank on Nov 5, 2009 12:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That is what apparently will be argued starting nov 30
by Eric Stephen on Nov 5, 2009 11:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And by "this" I mean the LA Dodgers, not TBLA.
God forbid Phil and Eric file for divorce.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 5, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was more worried about Jamie declaring it community property. :)
vr, Xei
by Xeifrank on Nov 5, 2009 1:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought I read that the December 15th date was to decide on the spousal support. I don’t think a trial date has been set.
I’m not really familiar with how divorces proceed, and if the city may try to get the trial over with quick with public interest in mind. Anybody have any insight into that?
by pdotmac1 on Nov 5, 2009 11:31 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The courts are country-adminstered, not city.
I would imagine this only goes as fast as the McCourts, the laywers, and the court itself want it to go.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 5, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Becky Moores filed for divorce on February 6, 2008
on December 16, 2008 Moores hired Goldman Sachs to help sell the team.
Moorad bought the team February 3, 2009
by pdotmac1 on Nov 5, 2009 11:45 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Not to beat a dead horse.
But if the Dodgers knew about the separation for months, and knew that it was headed this way, why did Colletti trade guys like Abreu that he knew could be used as cheap infield help for Garland?
by Tripon on Nov 5, 2009 11:46 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Because he doesn’t value Abreu highly?
by Eric Stephen on Nov 5, 2009 11:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently they didn’t view Garland highly either if he can’t get into a post season game.
by Tripon on Nov 5, 2009 11:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They probably weren't expecting
Vicente Padilla to pitch like he did for the last month.
by Michael White on Nov 5, 2009 11:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He was always just insurance. When he was signed, we had:
Wolf
Kershaw – who needed to keep his innings down, in September
Bills – who was all over the map
Kuroda – who was recovering from a broken head
Padilla – who hadn’t yet found whatever radioactive material turned him part superhuman
by Eric Stephen on Nov 5, 2009 11:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
by “signed” I meant “traded for” of course
by Eric Stephen on Nov 5, 2009 11:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He probably signed something when he got traded. :)
ie – I signed off on the trade.
vr, Xei
by Xeifrank on Nov 5, 2009 11:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
or perhaps some paperwork for Dodgers’ HR :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 5, 2009 11:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Since he was as Dodger for 1/3 of the season, he probably signed an agreement to donates the funds for only 1/3 of a neighborhood ball field.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 5, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Because Blake DeWitt is going to be better than Chase Utley
/sarcasm
by pdotmac1 on Nov 5, 2009 11:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
How about we just setup a mock trial. A different TBLA member or staff can play the roles of the various participants and we can hold the trial at the LA Library and Bob can be the judge and provide pitted fruit and diet pepsi for everyone.
vr, Xei
by Xeifrank on Nov 5, 2009 11:51 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
No Eating in the Library
Aren’t you supposed to try to stay out of court, or am I just old school? I don’t even like jury duty.
by Cool Dudes on Nov 5, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why don’t you just write a divorce proceedings simulator?
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 5, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Manny's Option
above you have it listed as pending. I thought it was reported that he would be excercising the option. Are you listing it as pending until it becomes official?
by Michael White on Nov 5, 2009 11:56 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
just waiting for official word.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 5, 2009 11:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
and I can’t express how happy I am that we will know his 2010 status by Tuesday instead of March. The only offseason back-and-forth crap we have to endure is McCourt v. McCourt.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 5, 2009 11:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
“New York Putz reliever back on market.” :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 5, 2009 11:59 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
“New York says No to baseball Putz”
by berkowit28 on Nov 5, 2009 1:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Angels resign bobby Abrue
for 2 years..
by matthewmafa on Nov 5, 2009 12:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
The Angels have re-signed outfielder Bobby Abreu to a two year deal, according to Ed Price of AOL FanHouse.
by Tripon on Nov 5, 2009 12:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
he’s basically signed to the same contract Juan Pierre has for the next two years… ouch!
by LA Taco on Nov 5, 2009 1:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
NLW Hot Stove
Chad Tracy bought out in AZ.
$1m buyout of $7m option
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/diamondbacks/articles/2009/11/05/20091105dbacks-tracy-CR.html
by Eric Stephen on Nov 5, 2009 12:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Also noticed
Doug Slaten claimed by Nats
Yusmeiro Petit claimed by Mariners
Slaten is arb eligible; Petit is not
by Eric Stephen on Nov 5, 2009 12:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Conan Nolan again on Jamie
Commissioner ruled that there was no need for an “emergency” ruling that would return her to her old job as LAD’s CEO
Why did she want an “emergency” ruling? Because she wants her old expense account restored
by Eric Stephen on Nov 5, 2009 12:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
It doesn’t seem Jamie thought it out that much when she had her affair. :)
by Tripon on Nov 5, 2009 12:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Can you imagine having sex with her? What a bag of bones, it would be like lying on a pile of coat hangers.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 5, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well if you read the comments by Jamie’s boyfriend to his own ex-girlfriend, Jeff Fuller realizes that it’s a job, not fun for him. :)
by Tripon on Nov 5, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
George Sherrill and Juan Pierre for Jenrry Mejia and Ruben Tejada
Tejada, Mejia, Russell/Van Slyke, Caseres for Halladay
Payroll stays the same.
by pdotmac1 on Nov 5, 2009 12:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
haha good one
mets would never trade their stud ptiching prospect for corey wade 2.0 and Juan pierre
by matthewmafa on Nov 5, 2009 12:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Far from him?
Not really
Cory Wade 2008: x-FIP 4.07
George Sherril 2008: x-FIP 4.65
George Sherrill 2009: x-FIP 4.39 (Orioles); x-FIP 3.87 (Dodgers)
So Wade’s 2008 was better than Sherill’s 2008 and Sherill’s 2009 in Baltimore. Sherril was a little bit better than Wade in Los Angeles. All in all, I agree with Matthew’s point, I don’t think there is much difference between the two.
by Michael White on Nov 5, 2009 1:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
and they both have the same stuff also...
90 mph fastballs with a great breaking pitch.. and wade has a plus 3rd pitch (changeup) while sherill doesnt..
by matthewmafa on Nov 5, 2009 2:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But Sherrill is lefty
which makes him 100 times more useful according to some people…
by delias man on Nov 5, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
but to the point.. he and pierre would not fetch the dodgers jenry mejia.. the mets top pitching prospect..
by matthewmafa on Nov 5, 2009 2:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Basically
the difference between Sherril and Wade is that Sherril is a lefty and has the “proven closer” label.
by Michael White on Nov 5, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL at Glen big baby Divs...
He wants to eventually play in the NFL!
by matthewmafa on Nov 5, 2009 12:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Jon Weisman seems really mad at Jamie McCourt's comments today.
I can’t blame him.
by Tripon on Nov 5, 2009 1:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Jamie McCourt’s lawyers’ comments. It was one lawyer in particular, whom he quoted by name.
by berkowit28 on Nov 5, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe we should all feign outrage, like the McCourts feign that they care about the team.
I also hear that some people in baseball are greedy.
by Cool Dudes on Nov 5, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't wait for the reality TV show
McCourt TV.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 5, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I have already pitched
McCourt of Love to VH1 for Fall 2010 schedule. We are trying to find a way to get Vin involved.
by delias man on Nov 5, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hosting this would be a perfect job for Ross Porter.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 5, 2009 4:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i am a member of like10 or 11 blogs...
does anyone know how to delete some of my memberships to some blogs that i dont want…
by matthewmafa on Nov 5, 2009 2:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
tell them their team sucks and they will ban you. :)
vr, Xei
by Xeifrank on Nov 5, 2009 2:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
McCovey Chronicles says “Hi!”
Craig Conroy stole my H1N1 vaccine...
by DodgerBlueBalls on Nov 5, 2009 7:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Click on your name
which will take you to your profile.
From that page, each blog is listed below your information in tombstone fashion. Each one has a link that says “Leave blog?”
by Eric Stephen on Nov 5, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i dont see anything that says
“Leave Blog?”
i went to my profile and i see all the blogs im in but nothing tha says Leave Blog?
by matthewmafa on Nov 5, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Leave blog only works if you haven't posted a comment
once you’ve posted a comment, that option is gone.
by Michael White on Nov 5, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yupp
LOL i just found that out right now… im in 11 blogs and i have commented in all but one.. so the only one that says Leave blog is the one which has 0 comments… all the others ones i have commented at least once and instead of leave blog.. it says Favorite?
by matthewmafa on Nov 5, 2009 2:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The favorites show up first in the drop down at the top
by Eric Stephen on Nov 5, 2009 3:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah..
i was just trying to leave some blogs that i didnt want to be a member of… but it looks like i cant if i have commented on the blog before..
by matthewmafa on Nov 5, 2009 3:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You Go and Mock One MCC Entry and its like you have a Veneal Disease for Life
You have to be careful where you go posting around :)
by Cool Dudes on Nov 5, 2009 3:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ST. PETERSBURG, Fla.— The Los Angeles Dodgers, New York Yankees and Tampa Bay Rays each had a pair of farmhands named the Topps Player of the Year in their respective leagues. Thirteen MLB farm systems are represented in the annual George M. Trautman Awards, presented in the 16 domestic Minor Leagues by the Topps Company of New York, in conjunction with Minor League Baseball.
Great Lakes shortstop Dee Gordon hit .301 with a league-leading 12 triples and 73 stolen bases in winning Topps Player of the Year honors in the Midwest League. The other Dodgers Minor Leaguer to claim his circuit’s award is outfielder Brian Cavazos-Galvez of the Ogden Raptors. Cavazos-Galvez tied for the Pioneer League lead with 18 homers and led the loop in hits (97); runs (59); extra base hits (50); and doubles (29).
by Tripon on Nov 5, 2009 2:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
wow
carlos santana was another winner.. so we could have had 3!!!
and then i bet if kyle russell was in a+ ball the whole year he would put up some RIDICULOUS numbers. which would be our 4th award winner
by matthewmafa on Nov 5, 2009 2:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
But he’ll probably will never hit lefties that well.
by Tripon on Nov 5, 2009 2:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
lol
is this a prediction from you.. what is that suppose to mean?
“he’ll probably will never hit lefties that well.?
Next year will be his 21 years old season.. raked in Ogden.. sucked in A ball.. needs to make some improvements but is defintly a Legit prospect.. has a great bat but D isnt too good
by matthewmafa on Nov 5, 2009 2:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Make sure to watch MLB Network this Saturday
Rising Stars Game with Strasburg starting. He will show off his Triple Plus (+) fastball.
by silverwidow on Nov 5, 2009 2:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
only dodger player participating in the game is....
Javy guerra..
by matthewmafa on Nov 5, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Tim Lincecum, star pitcher for the San Francisco Giants, is facing charges of misdemeanor possession of marijuana and drug paraphernalia use after being stopped for speeding on Interstate 5 last week.
by Tripon on Nov 5, 2009 3:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Tim Lincecum, a pothead?
I’m stunned. Stunned, I tell you!
Next question is whether this gets him suspended for PED use.
by EMDarrow on Nov 5, 2009 3:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not a surprise
better than DUI, in my opinion.
by LA Taco on Nov 5, 2009 3:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Timmah was actually smoking when he was caught.
It’d be like finding an recorked wine bottle in the back seat instead of your trunk. Its clear that you weren’t drinking it at the time, but you can still can get in trouble.
by Tripon on Nov 5, 2009 3:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's OK
You have impunity to declare any gniant an idiot for no good reason on this blog.
by Cool Dudes on Nov 5, 2009 4:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No question its better
Mostly I’m kidding. I don’t agree pot is worth wasting money trying to enforce laws against, and in the words of Robin Williams, “Pot enhances many things .. but it doesn’t leave you fucking empowered. When you’re high, you’re lucky if you can find your own feet!”
by EMDarrow on Nov 5, 2009 4:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Speeding and pot
what could go wrong??
by Capt Obvious on Nov 5, 2009 5:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lincecum looks like that guy
who was in one of the shows in MTV for “worlds strictest parents”
by matthewmafa on Nov 5, 2009 3:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The amount measured was 3.3 grams. Schatzel says police consider that a small amount for personal use.
3.3 grams is a small amount for personal use???
by matthewmafa on Nov 5, 2009 4:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
that probably lasts about Timmy about a week or less.
Since it’s legal with a prescription in California, if Tim can produce a subscription does MLB take action under their substance abuse policy?
by LA Taco on Nov 5, 2009 4:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The traffic stop was in Washington though.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 5, 2009 4:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh. I pictured him driving over the Golden Gate bridge, blasting “Glamour Profession” in his Benz
by LA Taco on Nov 5, 2009 4:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Now I'm even more confused
at how he can keep that slim, girlish figure
Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night, may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright.
by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Nov 5, 2009 4:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
6 Dodgers filed for free agency today
the first day of filing. This is more procedural than anything. From the LA Times:
The Dodgers filing today: infielders Ron Belliard, Orlando Hudson and Doug Mientkiewicz and pitchers Jon Garland, Randy Wolf and Eric Milton
Still 9 more to file: Mota, Padilla, Ohman, Thome, Ausmus, Schmidt, Loretta, Castro, Weaver
by Eric Stephen on Nov 5, 2009 4:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
O-Dog was probably first in line today.
by silverwidow on Nov 5, 2009 4:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully he signs with somebody before Dec 1
Which GUARANTEES two picks for us. YEAH!
by silverwidow on Nov 5, 2009 4:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
rreally?
when can we offer him arbritration?
by matthewmafa on Nov 5, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course, we will wait until the last second as usual.
The key is for him to sign before that date.
by silverwidow on Nov 5, 2009 4:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
technically nobody can sign with another team until the 15-day filing window closes (November 19 is the last day, so teams can start signing FAs on November 20), but often deals are struck during the 15 days on the down low.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 5, 2009 4:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody is going to sign Hudson before Dec. 1st.
by Tripon on Nov 5, 2009 4:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Last your only Jeremy Affeldt (Type B) did. Sergio Mitre did too, but he didn’t play in the majors in 2008 and wasn’t subject to compensation.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 5, 2009 4:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Giants reportedly got their deal done by the middle of Nov with Renteria, but they had to wait to see if the Tigers offered arbitration for Renteria. The Tigers couldn’t take the chance that he’d accept, and declined arbitration, and the Giants signed Renteria the next day.
Even if a team is that interested in Orlando Hudson, they’re going to wait until they see if the Dodgers offer arbitration.
by Tripon on Nov 5, 2009 4:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Eric forgot one potential free agent
But he has a much shorter window to declare.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 5, 2009 4:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Eric, do you think our 2010 2B will be a non-tender signing? I do. Kelly Johnson in specific.
by silverwidow on Nov 5, 2009 4:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
How does that work exactly
when a player is non-tendered, is he a free agent, open to signing with any team?
by LA Taco on Nov 5, 2009 4:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly. He is also under club control until he has accrued 6 years of big league service.
by silverwidow on Nov 5, 2009 4:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If I had to guess right now, I would say the Dodgers will use a combo of Belliard and DeWitt at 2B in 2010.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 5, 2009 5:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I would agree— Torre really seems to like both quite a bit and hey the money’s right.
But then again I was surprised they signed Hudson last year so who knows.
by LA Taco on Nov 5, 2009 5:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
10 Type A free agents were signed last year
none before K-Rod (12/9).
by bhsportsguy on Nov 5, 2009 4:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
smart move
garland did his job with us
but he aint worth any kind of long term contracts…
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by shaqfor3 on Nov 5, 2009 4:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
The option was just for 2010, but point taken
by Eric Stephen on Nov 5, 2009 4:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You might see teams non-tendering players well before December
Since the period between when teams can sign FAs and when the 40-man rosters are set, several teams may need some extra spaces in case they add more players.
The Dodgers will have plenty of room on their 40-man roster so it would not surprise me if Jason Repko survives one more Rule 5 draft.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 5, 2009 4:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
The Dodgers will have plenty of room on their 40-man roster so it would not surprise me if Jason Repko survives one more Rule 5 draft.
Dodgers pay a AAA outfielder a million bucks? I just can’t see it.
by silverwidow on Nov 5, 2009 4:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Repko survives if the Dodgers don’t expect Lambo or Robinson to move up to Triple-A anytime soon.
by Tripon on Nov 5, 2009 4:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well Repko does not have anymore options so unless Manny does not take
his option, he’s probably gone.
I am just saying there may not be anyone down in the minor league system that needs protecting (I guess this would be a Scott Van Slyke vs. Repko question, if you believed somehow that someone would take Van Slyke on a MLB Rule 5 draft and would actually keep him on a 25-man roster for the whole year, okay put him on the 40-man roster.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 5, 2009 4:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's more of a timing thing
Dodgers don’t have to tender contracts to pre-FA players until December 12.
Rule 5 draft is on December 10.
If they needed room on the 40-man (which should be at what 33-34 guys on November 20?) before the Rule 5 draft, they could cut him then but likely will wait until December 12.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 5, 2009 4:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you avoiding my 2B question? :)
by silverwidow on Nov 5, 2009 4:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The only nontenders for the Dodger are Repko, and Stults this year? Or is Hu in danger as well?
by Tripon on Nov 5, 2009 5:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Stults and Hu are not arb eligible
by silverwidow on Nov 5, 2009 5:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Stults is out of options.
Now that I think about it, Hu is probably safe if only because a team can use his defense as a UI.
by Tripon on Nov 5, 2009 5:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hu has an option year left, so he’s fine.
Stults has no options, but he will likely stick around until spring training, where he will then get cut and/or traded for Eric Krebs after not making the team.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 5, 2009 5:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Really the only guys that get non-tendered are arb-eligible guys, for the most part. Unless the club needs space on the 40-man or something, which shouldn’t be an issue for the Dodgers, at least in December.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 5, 2009 5:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
When do contracts for guys like Stults become guaranteed for the year?
by Tripon on Nov 5, 2009 5:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
opening day
The payout schedule goes like this for players cut in spring training:
Cut prior to the 16th day before opening day = 30 days termination pay (full season is 183 days, so salary / 183 × 30)
Cut within the final 16 days of ST = 45 days termination pay
I believe Todd Walker got 45 days termination pay with the Padres one year (2006?) for being cut in the latter part of ST. He filed a grievance but I don’t remember how it came out.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 5, 2009 5:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So who moves on up to the 40 man roster
Ivan De Jesus (I wonder if he will get an injury waiver for a year).
Josh Wall
Trayvon Robinson
Scott Van Slyke
Tommy Giles
Javy Guerra
Alberto Bastardo
Russell Mitchell is probably by now a Minor League Free Agent
by bhsportsguy on Nov 5, 2009 5:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I would start answering that question by first determining which Dodger minor-leagues will be subject to the Rule V draft if they are not added to the 40-man roster. I wonder if there is a handy list somewhere.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 5, 2009 5:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
International signings are the wild card
but in general it’s high schoolers from the 2005 draft and college kids from 2006.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 5, 2009 5:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
wild card in that their signing data isn’t as easy to lookup (although the BA handbooks have them), but I guess one could just see the first year they pitched using B-R.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 5, 2009 5:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
although you are right, they don’t have it back to the years in question (there is a gap from 1995-2009)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 5, 2009 5:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was just about to point out a different Bastardo as a counter-argument.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=bastar001ant
by Tripon on Nov 5, 2009 5:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
For the most part though, there is at least some buzz around international signees who may be protected, so it’s not like we have to find a needle in the haystack.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 5, 2009 5:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I always forget about Bastardo
but my guess would be DeJesus, Trayvon, Van Slyke, and Guerra, with a strong maybe to Bastardo.
Which I believe would put the count to 34 players on the 40-man
by Eric Stephen on Nov 5, 2009 5:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Section 8F of the Joint Drug Agreement.
F. Marijuana
A Player on the Administrative Track for the use or possession of marijuana shall not be subject to suspension. The Player will be subject to fines, which shall be progressive and which shall not exceed $25,000 for any particular violation. Notwithstanding the foregoing, a Player who participates in the sale or distribution (as those terms are used in the criminal code) of marijuana will be subject to the discipline set forth in Section 8.E above.
http://mlbplayers.mlb.com/pa/pdf/jda.pdf
by Tripon on Nov 5, 2009 4:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
wow
its different in the minors tho..
the top prospect for the brewers jeremy jeffries has been suspended 100 games for his 2nd violation of the drug policy and if he ever gets caught again, its a lifetime ban from MiLB
by matthewmafa on Nov 5, 2009 4:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
uhoh lincecum
When I look at Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of the romantics... -The Great Bill Walton
by shaqfor3 on Nov 5, 2009 4:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Ned is scared of injury risks. He’s arguably the best pitcher available though, including Lackey.
by LA Taco on Nov 5, 2009 5:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
on further reflection that might be hyperbolic, but anyway it’s interesting to compare the two, as they came into the league around the same time. Injuries are a bitch.
by LA Taco on Nov 5, 2009 5:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
on further reflection that might be hyperbolic, but anyway it’s interesting to compare the two, as they came into the league around the same time. Injuries are a bitch.
by LA Taco on Nov 5, 2009 5:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
garland garland garland...
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by matthewmafa on Nov 5, 2009 7:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
In reality
I would be very surprised if any player get’s signed by anyone before December 1st. As a free agent that is, teams will probably sign their own players but even that may be limited until teams know what the market price is going to be.
by bhsportsguy on Nov 5, 2009 5:45 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps you should not get your hopes up
Can you say Stults Stults Stults!
by Cool Dudes on Nov 5, 2009 11:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Manny Mota… Mota… Mota…
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 6, 2009 10:34 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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