Window shopping the 2010 Free Agent Class
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 9, 2009 11:52 AM PST
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Below is the table of most of the available free agents, I've added a column of interest. I have no idea who Ned may be targeting. We know we need a 2nd baseman to replace Hudson/Bellaird, someone in the rotation to replace Wolf, possibly a bullpen piece.
Tepid interest for me means that I'd like to have that player on the Dodgers, but that I expect the price to be more then I would like the Dodgers to commit to. Many of the players I said No to, are good players but are not players we need at the position they play.
Plenty of 2nd base options abound with Hudson(Arb), Belliard(Arb), Polanco, Lopez, DeRosa, even possibly Chone Figgins. Our internal options at the moment are DeWitt and DeJesus. No way Ned stays with that scenario. Figgins will be to expensive as will Polanco. I'd target DeRosa and Belliard, while hoping DeJesus can take the job away sooner then later. My expectation is that we either sign Belliard to share the job with DeWitt or we trade for a 2nd baseman. I don't believe for a 2nd the rumor of AJ Ellis for Alberto Callaspo but I'd make that trade in heartbeat.
The rotation is tricky, I'd love to take chances on the great arms of Bedard, Harden, or Sheets but after the Schmidt fiasco I can't picture Ned going that route. When healthy they offer the biggest bang but they have all proven to be extremely brittle pitchers with no guarantee's of health going forward. I don't think we need much bullpen help but I sure wouldn't mind adding the fragile arms of Soriano or Gonzalez for the right price. Given the expected budget I don't see how we can add a quality relief pitcher and we probably don't need to.
Could we trade Loney for a 2nd baseman or pitcher and sign Nick Johnson or Carlos Delgado? We could, but we won't so I'm didn't bother with scenarios like that. Maybe later.
When speculating on who we can afford I'd stay within a $100 Million budget until we see some proof that the McCourts will go above that. That is what we started 2009 at and I don't expect much of or any increase. Eric has updated the payroll and we are already at 94 Million when you take into account his expected arbitration raises. Not much room for improvement unless Ned sheds some current salary (Pierre, Sherril, Martin). Part of the problem is the large amount of money being paid to players no longer on the team. Teams on a budget will always pay the price when those future obligations come due.
In the previous thread there was talk of trading one of our arbitration eligible players. If I had to bet on anyone it would be Martin. Eric has him pegged for $6 Million this year.
| Free Agents |
| Player | Pos | Interest | Type | |||||
| Matt Holliday | LF | No | A | |||||
| John Lackey | SP |
Tepid |
A | |||||
| Jason Bay |
LF | No | A | |||||
| Chone Figgins | 2b/3b | Tepid | A | |||||
| Randy Wolf | SP | Arb | A | |||||
| Andy Pettitte | SP | No | B | |||||
| Ronnie Belliard | 2nd | Arb | B | |||||
| Marco Scutaro | SS | No | A | |||||
| Adrian Beltre |
3rd | No | B | |||||
| Rich Harden | SP | Tepid | B | |||||
| Mike Cameron | CF | No | B | |||||
| Johnny Damon | LF | No | A | |||||
| Orlando Hudson | 2nd | Arb | A | |||||
| Miguel Tejada | SS | No | A | |||||
| Joel Pineiro | SP | Tepid | B | |||||
| Nick Johnson | 1st | No | B | |||||
| Aroldis Chapman | SP | No | ||||||
| Marlon Byrd | OF | No | B | |||||
| Vlady | DH | No | B | |||||
| Felipe Lopez | 2nd | Tepid | B | |||||
| Adam LaRoche | 1st | No | B | |||||
| Rafael Soriano | RP | Yes | A | |||||
| Brad Penny | SP | No | ||||||
| Erik Bedard | SP | Yes | B | |||||
| Jon Garland |
SP | No | B | |||||
| Carl Pavano | SP | No | B | |||||
| Bengie Molina | C | No | A | |||||
| Mike Gonzalez | RP | Yes | A | |||||
| Jason Marquis | SP | No | B | |||||
| Placido Polanco | 2nd | Tepid | A | |||||
| Tim Wakefield | SP | No | B | |||||
| Ben Sheets | SP | Yes | ||||||
| Doug Davis | SP | No | B | |||||
| Jarrod Washburn | SP | No | ||||||
| Russell Branyan | 1st/OF | No | ||||||
| Billy Wagner | RP | No | A | |||||
| Juan Uribe | 2nd | No | ||||||
| John Smoltz | SP | No | ||||||
| Mark DeRosa | 2nd | Yes | B | |||||
| Carlos Delgado | 1st | No | B | |||||
| Gregg Zaun | C | Yes | B | |||||
| Fernando Rodney | RP | No | B | |||||
| Kiko Calero | RP | No | B | |||||
| Rafael Betancourt | RP | No | A | |||||
| Justin Duchscherer | SP | No | B | |||||
| Vicente Padilla | SP | No | B |
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Ryota Igarashi
Potential Japanese FA reliever who throws 98.75 mph. We need this guy!
by silverwidow on Nov 9, 2009 11:53 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
yes but IS HE CLUTCH? DOES HE PITCH WITH HEART!?
by Seanny Rotten on Nov 9, 2009 12:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I updated the payroll
sort of…I basically just updated my preliminary arbitration estimates. I will go through and change the order of the players later, but I have 2010 right now at $95.85 million, with the 25-man filled with players already on the roster. Obviously that will change but it gives you an idea of where we are at now.
http://www.truebluela.com/2009/1/14/720656/dodger-payroll
Here are my first-glance estimates for the arb-eligibles (I will have more detailed info in the coming weeks so this is subject to change of course):
Martin – $6 million
Loney – $3 million
Kemp – $3.5 million
Ethier – $5 million
Billingsley – $4 million
Broxton – $4 million
Sherrill – $4 million
Kuo – $1.5 million
Repko – non-tendered
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2009 11:58 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Also
the right sidebar on the front page (near the bottom) is updated with the 2010 payroll estimates now.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2009 11:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Martin
Can’t see him making more than Ethier. In fact, at $6M salary, he’s non-tender worthy relative to his production.
by silverwidow on Nov 9, 2009 12:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Martin has the advantage of starting at a higher base than Ethier ($3.9m to $3.2m) plus obviously being at a relatively scarce position.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2009 12:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Also
Martin put up a 2.1 WAR. $6 million is not out of line for that
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2009 12:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If you put any credence into WAR I guess that is true:)
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 9, 2009 12:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
you don’t? I find it to be a great shorthand for deciding how valuable a player is compared to another player but I really don’t know much about it.
by LA Taco on Nov 9, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
WAR is a great stat. You just need to take into consideration that it is often in print as a counting stat. Which means the more you play the more likely you are to have a higher WAR number. It’s easy to convert to a rate stat. But for simplicity reasons, it’s just good to keep in mind that it is a rate stat and do the mental adjustments if necessary.
vr, Xei
by Xeifrank on Nov 9, 2009 5:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't really
at least not for catchers. He’s getting a ton of value simply because he’s the guy behind the dish. Nevermind his defense is rather poor and he didn’t hit a lick.
by Michael White on Nov 9, 2009 7:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Is there a good way to evaluate catcher’s defense? I’m told there’s no really good way to measure their UZR and RF.
by Seanny Rotten on Nov 9, 2009 7:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not that I am aware of either. WAR gives Martin a boost simply because he is a catcher. My eye tells me he is average at best. Average defense, below average bat, $6MM seems way too high.
by Michael White on Nov 9, 2009 8:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You should get a “boost” for simply being a catcher.
vr, Xei
by Xeifrank on Nov 10, 2009 7:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Broxton
do you think his value goes down with two years in a row of blowing it in really, really big situations?
by bearface on Nov 9, 2009 12:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No
because outside of Mariano Rivera, everyone does. Look at the whole body of work, and he is a top 5 closer in MLB, easily.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2009 12:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Mark Grace, Tony Womack, Craig Counsell, and Luis Gonzalez wave hello.
So do Kevin Millar and Bill Mueller, with Dave Roberts leaning into the picture.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 9, 2009 12:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ok - i'll put it this way.
let’s say he doesn’t blow a 2 out bottom of the ninth lead in the NLDS. does his value go up?
by bearface on Nov 9, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not in aribtration
maybe in trade value.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 9, 2009 12:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't mind Andy Pettite, Derosa, maybe on Lackey and maybe on Figgins.
by Ian Capilouto on Nov 9, 2009 12:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I do subscribe to the intangibles thing, so
any of those 4 guys would be good for my tastes. Watching Andy Pettite pitch in the post season for the Dodgers is something I would like to see.
by Ian Capilouto on Nov 9, 2009 12:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wanted Pettite
last winter but no one else seemed interested. I don’t there is any chance he’d come to the West Coast or that we could afford him.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 9, 2009 12:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I figure as much that it is a near impossible signing
I have wanted the Dodgers to sign him forever. His durability is excellent. The Yankees will keep him though unless Joe Torre can make a convincing pitch.
by Ian Capilouto on Nov 9, 2009 12:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
they guy's got a 3.9 career ERA
I know there’s more to it, but he would be nowhere with out 15 years of the American League All-Stars giving him run support.
by bearface on Nov 9, 2009 12:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ridiculous
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 9, 2009 12:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm married to a Yankees fan
i’ve watched him pitch more games than most Dodger fans. he’s got to be the most overrated player on the Yankees not named Jorge Posada.
He had a 5.9 ERA against the Phils in the WS. Don’t let the 2-0 record fool you.
by bearface on Nov 9, 2009 12:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not easily fooled by two games in a World Series
but you seem to be ignoring his body of work. He’s been a good pitcher his whole career, no one is saying he’s Johan Santana but to say he’d be “nowhere” without his run support is what was “ridiculous”.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 9, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
From 1954 on, he has the sixth highest run support of any pitcher with 200 starts, at 5.3 runs per start
from
http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/04/pettitte-falls-short-for-the-hall-of-fame/
by bearface on Nov 9, 2009 12:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
His adjusted ERA is also 16% better than average, so I don’t think he would be “nowhere” without that run support
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ok maybe not "nowhere"
but he wouldn’t be the name he is.
simply enough look at Kershaw and Wolf this year. give those guys 5.3 runs of support per game and see how many wins they have.
by bearface on Nov 9, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The only person here using wins to measure a pitcher is you.
Pettitte is and has been a good pitcher in his career.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2009 12:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
fair enough
it’s my assumption i guess that most people are like Yankee fans who claim that he is the best pitcher of all time, or are at least like Joe Buck who give him so much credit for their ring this year.
by bearface on Nov 9, 2009 12:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Andy Pettitte is a really good pitcher.
His splits in his 3 years with Houston:
37-26, ERA+ 129, WHIP 1.230, 3.01 k/bb
I’d say he’s pretty effin’ good in the NL. Granted this was ages 32-34 and he’ll be 38.
by Seanny Rotten on Nov 9, 2009 4:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he was using steroids...
or whatever… so it doesnt really count
by matthewmafa on Nov 9, 2009 4:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He also average a 3.73 FIP in his career.
4.15 FIP in playoffs.
by Julio Nievas on Nov 9, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Okay
but he had an ERA of 3.95, which is a big spread between 5.3 and 3.95. Mabye with that run support he should never have lost but his pitcher well enough to win many a game. I don’t find a 3.95 ERA in the AL East something to sneer at.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 9, 2009 12:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If you never have to face the Yankees, do you still get credit for being a great pitcher in the AL East?
by bearface on Nov 9, 2009 12:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think I ever called him a great pitcher
just someone who I wouldn’t have minded us targeting last winter.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 9, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You keep moving the argument.
Nobody is saying Pettitte is great. We are saying he is better than “nowhere with out 15 years of the American League All-Stars giving him run support.”
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i didn't move any argument
and I took back the “nowhere” part. Pettite is a good pitcher that has had a great career. not a great pitcher that’s had a great career.
anyways. it all goes with my initial argument which was keeping him off of the Dodgers. like i said in that Torre post. we’ve already gotten nowhere with nomar, kent, gonzalez, thome, wells etc. we don’t need anymore 40 year olds on the team.
by bearface on Nov 9, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"nowhere" was a bit harsh
If you would have mentioned his run support and opined that you found him somewhat overrated, I doubt you’d get much resistance for that.
by Capt Obvious on Nov 9, 2009 6:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Pettite also wasn't as bad as his 5.3 era suggests.
That game six he pitched was a stellar outing I thought.
by Ian Capilouto on Nov 9, 2009 12:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He was pulled after the Howard home run
but Pettite did his thing which was hold down a great lineup for six. I think that performance goes a long way in a World Series game. I would have taken that outing everytime for the Dodgers.
by Ian Capilouto on Nov 9, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You're kind of helping me with my point.
Against the Phillies – Pettite gives up 3 runs in 5.2 innings and still gets the win – partially due to run support, and partially due to Mariano Rivera.
Now look at the NLCS. Randy wolf gives up 3 runs in 5.1 innings and gets the loss.
Both pitched nearly identical games (wolf gave up less walks) but ended up with completely different outcomes. Why pay Andy Petite (at 38) to do the same thing that Randy Wolf could do?
by bearface on Nov 9, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If I had my druthers
I would pay both to do that for the Dodgers. A rotation of Kershaw, Billingsley, Pettite, and Wolf would be formidible in my opinion. Two young hard throwers along with two older guys with the chance to pitch a gem at anytime based on their knowledge of the game.
by Ian Capilouto on Nov 9, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose there is no argument to that.
I thought he pitched pretty well in the playoffs, but I must be mistaken.
by Ian Capilouto on Nov 9, 2009 12:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think career wise, he has been a good pitcher with a great
durability. Durability goes a long way in my thinking because it saves teh pitching staff a lot during the season.
by Ian Capilouto on Nov 9, 2009 12:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
With twelve seasons in the AL mostly in the steroid era – but how long was he using – and three seasons calling Minute Maid Pinball Field his home, a 3.9 ERA sounds pretty decent to me. But he’s not that guy anymore – he’ll be 38 next year.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 9, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why so much for Martin compared to Andre?
Could Martin be our Anthony John Pierzynski ? At age 26 AJ posted an an OPS+ of 115 before he was traded to the Giant. Difference is that the Twins traded him at the height of his value while we would be selling Martin low if we moved him now.
Six Million seems steep for Martin when we have so little money to spend on upgrading elsewhere. Not that I can think of any alternatives at the moment.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 9, 2009 12:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Like I said
first estimates only. Martin will probably end up in te $5.5m to $6m range. I may have overshot it a bit, but I’m pretty confident he will make more than Ethier in 2010.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2009 12:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Beer Bet?
I think I’m still thirsty from our last bet:)
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 9, 2009 12:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sure
on the condition that only one-year contracts apply. If either Martin or Ethier sign a multi-year deal, bet is off
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2009 12:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Boo
you took my wild card away.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 9, 2009 12:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't be surprised if Ethier pulls a Gagne and asks for $8M
by silverwidow on Nov 9, 2009 12:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
and, like Gagne, he would lose :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2009 12:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Andre 6.7 Million
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 9, 2009 12:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
At least $1 million more than what Ethier would get in arbitration. Easily.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2009 12:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Who are your comp's for him?
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 9, 2009 12:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is why I hesitated to update the payroll
Salary figures don’t need to be submitted until January 5.
It’s too early in the offseason for this.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2009 12:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
but we are going to have a free agent discussion we need to have a ballpark for the expected payroll. Sure the numbers may not be perfect but we do know that you are probably within a few million.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 9, 2009 12:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll get to the comps later
but just looking at Super Twos for 2007 & 2008, here is the salary increases from the Super Two year to the next season for non-pitchers:
Robinson Cano – 100% (part of a multi-year contract)
Casey Kotchman – 95.6%
Alex Rios – 90.7%
Justin Morneau – 64.4%
Mark Teahen – 52.9%
Ryan Howard – 50.0%
Jose Bautista – 33.3%
Augie Ojeda – 29.5%
Eric Bruntlett – 14.3%
Cory Sullivan – 11.1%
Matt Diaz – 1.0%
Obviously those last members aren’t regulars so they shouldn’t count, but it’s at least interesting to look at.
I think the service time OF comparables will be more compelling, but to think Ethier will get a 109% increase, especially when he was already highly paid among his previous comps, is a stretch.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2009 3:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ends up signing a Five year/40 Million deal where we end up paying him until 2025.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 9, 2009 12:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of deferred money
the Cardinals deferred $12m of Pujols’s $100m contract (signed in 2004), and will pay him $1.2m per year from 2020 to 2029!!
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2009 12:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So his next contract
could take into the 22nd century?
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 9, 2009 12:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I gotta dig up that article on the D-Backs
and all the deferred salary in MLB. I think Darren Rovell wrote it. Bernard Gilkey is still getting paid through 2017 or something :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2009 12:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
If you look at tomorrow’s money being worth less than today (which is true), this seems short-sighted except for the possibility that Pujols and many others are going for safety, that if they blow their fortunes somehow – as has happened to other athletes and entertainers – they’ll still have something coming to them when they get old.
I guess they’re not confident in their own retirement planning skills.
by Capt Obvious on Nov 9, 2009 6:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ya does he get inflation adjusted interest on that salary or anything
by 2029 that 1.2 mil. could be like 1.2 thousand lol..
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
by Ollie on Nov 9, 2009 10:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nick Markakis will earn $6.75m in 2010, but he is in the next level of service class, with 4 full years of service time. Also, that was part of a multi-year deal.
Hard to see Ethier getting a 109% raise in arbitration
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
but unlinke Gagne, Ethier wouldn’t sulk and get butt hurt about it. Ethier isn’t a little whiny French Canuck! Etheir is ALL AMERICAN BABY!!!
by Seanny Rotten on Nov 9, 2009 12:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Part of what makes him all-American.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 9, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
North American-ish
What Would Jack Bauer Do?
by Sordid on Nov 9, 2009 12:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ethier was born and raised in Arizona.
I don’t care what his lineage is, he grew up watching baseball, football, eating burgers, apple pie, learning the Pledge of Alliegance, etc.
Eric Gagne I think didn’t even learn English until he was an adult, grew up loving hockey (!), ate tons of cheese and learned how to surrender. Most decidedly not American.
by Seanny Rotten on Nov 9, 2009 4:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder what will becom eof Johnny Damon?
Did not know he was a free agent.
by Ian Capilouto on Nov 9, 2009 12:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
My predictions
Kemp: Asks for…4.5, gets…3.75
Billingsley: Asks for…4.25, gets…4
Broxton: Asks for…3.75, gets…3.33
Ethier: Asks for…7.25, gets…6.5
Martin: Asks for…6.5, gets…5.25
by silverwidow on Nov 9, 2009 12:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I've Said This Before
I think we should stick with DeWitt at 2B and save the money for 2011 or for some sort of situation where Halladay becomes available. I’d love to have Lackey but the Angels and Yankees will outbid us.
Our offensive production should be pretty good this year.
Furcal and Loney finished really strong.
Blake will be solid, if not great.
Manny will be looking to save his personal legacy with a huge year, and say what you want about him, he works his ass off when he needs to – he’ll come in to Spring Training ready to play.
Ethier could hit 40 HRs this year.
Kemp could start his 3 year streak of 30/30 years (these will be followed with 5 years of 40/40)
There’s no possible way for Martin to have any worse of a year this year than he did last year.
Give DeWitt some time to develop and add some speed to the lineup and let things develop into hoping to get a real deal Ace in that rotation somehow.
by bearface on Nov 9, 2009 12:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Given that we only have about $6 million to play with, I’d much rather see us focus our FA dollars on a starting pitcher than a second baseman. I really think our offense should be at least as good as last year’s with a full year of Manny, Furcal hopefully continuing his late season turn around, and Kemp breaking out even further. And last year we were 4th in runs in the NL.
Starting pitching is more of a question mark in my mind. Wolf put up some pretty good numbers that we have to replace.
by CarolinaDodger on Nov 9, 2009 12:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Save the money?
How about offer a one-year type deal… to RICH HARDEN
by Julio Nievas on Nov 9, 2009 12:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Lackey's consistent shoulder problems at the beginnings of a seasons
scares me out of a big contract.
by Ian Capilouto on Nov 9, 2009 12:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Middle relievers
Why do you have a yes on Mike Gonzalez and Rafael Soriano? I thought we were pretty set in the bullpen unless we trade someone.
by CarolinaDodger on Nov 9, 2009 12:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Just in case we do trade someone. I don’t expect us to spend any money on relief pitching but then I didn’t think Ned was going to spend 2.3 on Mota last year.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 9, 2009 12:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ned signs Mota to a 1 BILLION DOLLARS contract.
by Tripon on Nov 9, 2009 12:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Deferred till infinity
What Would Jack Bauer Do?
by Sordid on Nov 9, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
and beyond!
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 9, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Harden
1-year/ 5 million dollars
So what if he has arm issues. So what if he averages 17.7 pitches an inning. So what if 4.3 BB/P rate. So what?
by Julio Nievas on Nov 9, 2009 12:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Lets just target Ben Sheets, and anoint him as an ace.
by Tripon on Nov 9, 2009 12:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Our 2010 MLB Free Agent list has been updated, and below is a summary of differences between the official rankings, and those projected by Eddie Bajek.
* Chone Figgins qualifies as a Type-A, not a Type-B as projected.
* Melvin Mora qualifies as a Type-A, not a Type-B as projected.
* Vladimir Guerrero qualifies as a Type-B, not a Type-A as projected.
* Gregg Zaun goes from no compensation to Type-B.
* Jerry Hairston Jr. from Type-B to no compensation.
* Hideki Matsui from Type-B to no compensation.
* Aubrey Huff from Type-B to no compensation.
The only one I could see the Dodgers going for is Zaun if Ausmus retires.
by Tripon on Nov 9, 2009 12:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Or if we trade Martin
Zaun likes to play and would shoot himself watching Martin play so much.
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 9, 2009 12:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I like the idea of signing Bedard and Zaun
Not so sure about DeRosa and the middle relievers.
I like the idea of trading Pierre and eating half of his salary. I know some don’t think it’s possible but I have to believe someone would take him for 2/9
by LA Taco on Nov 9, 2009 12:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I think we should seriously look into moving Casey Blake. A gullible team could bite on 2 yrs/$12M
by silverwidow on Nov 9, 2009 12:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Why? That would just create another hole to fill and there’s no chance of getting anything close to equal return on him from what the Dodger’s gave up. Just play out the contract and hope he can continue hitting.
What Would Jack Bauer Do?
by Sordid on Nov 9, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Mostly because I think he’ll miss significant time due to injury and when he plays, he’ll continue to decline.
by silverwidow on Nov 9, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was in favor of him getting a two year contract last year but instead he got a three and i think the Dodger’s are stuck with him and his diminishing returns.
What Would Jack Bauer Do?
by Sordid on Nov 9, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If you believe in WAR, Blake was a 4.2 WAR player.
by Tripon on Nov 9, 2009 1:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He was based on his 2009 performance, but going forward you want to go with some kind of weighted projection on both offense and defense and adjust for age. As a swag, I’d say he is closer to a 2.5 WAR player.
vr, Xei
by Xeifrank on Nov 10, 2009 7:59 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I could see us moving Pierre and still addressing every position in house.
You know, that wouldn’t be so bad if you think about it…
I don’t even want Halladay without an extension. He’s not a spring chicken you know.
by megaballs on Nov 9, 2009 12:45 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Has there ever been three such skilled but fragile pitchers on the FA market? Bedard/Harden/Sheets could all be the best pitcher in many a rotation, or they could all three be on the DL at the same time.
As I said before a gunslinging GM could really go out on a limb and sign all three to one year incentive deals. It would have to be a team with some back up resources. A team with guys like McDonald, Elbert, Haeger to fill in during the DL time.
Anyway I’m very curious what this guys get this year. Will they sign one year deals to prove they are good to go, or will they sign lower valued mulit year deals, or will they find buyers to give them the security and the money?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 9, 2009 12:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I am not a proponent of this kind of deal.
I think it wears out the bullpen, and causes the manager to constantly have to shuffle things and call players up, and it is demoralizing to me when I am about to sit down with some In-n-Out and a Barq’s to watch the game only to find out that instead of watching Rich Harden face Dan Haren, some marginal guy is going in his place. Now that is a run on sentence.
by Ian Capilouto on Nov 9, 2009 1:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes you gotta take risks
Is there a new sherriff in town, though?
by Capt Obvious on Nov 9, 2009 7:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Realistic Trades with Juan Pierre
I Used to Like Window Shopping at the Sharper Image Too.
But since in my opinion that type of shopping is now unrealistic considering reality, I would like to hear some proposals for a revenue neutral realistic trades for Juan Pierre.
This means we eat most of his overheated economy contract that didn’t make sense to begin with, add cash or switch bad contract dollars to bring his salary to current market value, and get similar talent in return. Please don’t reply that nobody would want him or that he’s worthless, because I’m interested in reality and not hyperbole.
What can we realistically get for Juan as having Juan as a 4th outfielder is something that might work for the Yankees, but not a team on a budget (assuming he is being paid current market dollars) and is probably the only player we don’t need that we who is a starting caliber player we can trade.
by Cool Dudes on Nov 9, 2009 12:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I don't think we can get anything in return
but I do think we can move him depending on how much salary they would be willing to eat. I think the White Sox or Reds would be interested at a certain price point. THey have proven in the past they love speedy centerfielders. Teams will see what Morgan did for the Nationals and hope they could get that Pierre. Pierre and his agent will try all winter to negotiate a deal with other teams, this time I expect him to be successful.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 9, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If the White Sox GM trades for Pierre he should be fired on the spot.
What Would Jack Bauer Do?
by Sordid on Nov 9, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing?
Are you saying we couldn’t trade Pierre and a bag of cash with $15 million for anything?
Are you saying we couldn’t trade him for a ..206/.295 /.363 2nd baseman?
I’m not buying it, Juan would be an upgrade on a lot of teams. The realistic answer might be nothing good, but nothing?
by Cool Dudes on Nov 9, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Show me which teams he would be an upgrade for in either CF or LF.
by LA Taco on Nov 9, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
JP is an upgrade over any of the 3 OF spots in SF. ANY.
by Seanny Rotten on Nov 9, 2009 4:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he's actually a better CF than
Willy Taveras in Cinci, Willie Harris in DC and Mitch Maier in KC. That’s CF and I haven’t even given LF a close look anywhere.
by Seanny Rotten on Nov 9, 2009 6:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Defensively maybe but offensively he's equally awful
What Would Jack Bauer Do?
by Sordid on Nov 9, 2009 7:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not true.
JP’s OPS+ this year was 105, during his time as a Dodger it’s been 84.
The Giants OF this year was right to left (wait for it)
75(!!!!!)
90
92
JP would be a clear upgrade. Heck, he’s considered “patient” when compared to the hackers up north.
by Seanny Rotten on Nov 9, 2009 8:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Last year was an aberration his career OPS+ is 85, which is not exactly setting the world on fire.
What Would Jack Bauer Do?
by Sordid on Nov 10, 2009 8:00 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Giants would have killed to have Pierre in LF instead of Lewis.
as bad as Pierre is on D, he’s 3 TIMES the player Lewis is.
by Seanny Rotten on Nov 10, 2009 10:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If the player involved is not on the major league roster or is prospect fodder I’d consider that nothing. I do not think we could get a player who would help us this year or in the future unless it is a movement of contracts.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 9, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I really don’t see any suckers takers for Pierre.
What Would Jack Bauer Do?
by Sordid on Nov 9, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
a backup catcher plus $9m
will get a team Pierre.
That’s $4.5m we can spend on pitching.
by LA Taco on Nov 9, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Leave the backup catcher and bring a sack of money
What Would Jack Bauer Do?
by Sordid on Nov 9, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was going to say bullpen catcher but got greedy
by LA Taco on Nov 9, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hm what about chan ho park?
Chan Ho Park could be a decent long reliever or possibly 4~5th starter, since he was always good as dodgers (due to the mound)
by LAD17 on Nov 9, 2009 12:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Chan Ho
left us because he wanted to start. Dodger management didn’t want to let him start so I don’t think anything has changed.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 9, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Except that he didn’t start many games in Philly and might be more realistic this time around. Looking back, he may have had more starts with the Dodgers given our injuries etc.!
by LA Taco on Nov 9, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
possibility
If dodgers give chan ho chance to become 4th or 5th starter like phillies did, then he might come. Besides, he has proved to be a pretty good bullpen so. When he starts on dodgers mound though, he has been always good or decent so (Like two years ago when he was dodgers from spring training, every starts he started, he was pretty damn good as 4th or 5th spot starter so)
Also having to pitch at hitters-friendly park and coming to pitchers-friendly park doesn’t hurt either.
by LAD17 on Nov 9, 2009 1:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But I thought he was pretty bad at being starter this year.
What Would Jack Bauer Do?
by Sordid on Nov 9, 2009 1:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He was pretty bad as starter this year, but I feel like he regained his control as season went on and I think he can start again as at most 4th or 5th starter
by LAD17 on Nov 9, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Victor Zambrano’s mother kidnapped in Venezuela.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 9, 2009 1:05 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t believe for the rumor of AJ Ellis for Alberto Callaspo but then again the Royals GM is the guy who acquired Betancourt
What Would Jack Bauer Do?
by Sordid on Nov 9, 2009 1:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Buster Olney is apparently starting or spreading rumors about the Dodgers:
Los Angeles is expected to move at least one of its many arbitration-eligible players via trade.It’s probably a lot of malarkey, but If an arb-eligible is traded, I’m guessing George Sherrill. He can be shopped as a closer and his likely salary is going to be pushing $4M, which seems a bit steep for Colletti to want to pay for a set-up man.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 9, 2009 1:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I think this move makes sense since almost all arb-eligible players values are pretty high right now.
by LAD17 on Nov 9, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The price to trade for him was steep
it would be interesting to see what Ned got back if he then flipped Sherrill.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 9, 2009 1:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i bet he wont even get back someone as good as steven johnson...
and now he has to get josh bell too….
this is sad if hes really gonna trade sherril
by matthewmafa on Nov 9, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of Josh Bell
Baseball Prospectus today with the Orioles top 10 and Bell clocks in at number two. I’m particularly irritated by the improvement in his defense.
The Good: Bell is a prototypical third baseman with plus power who has shown the ability to hit for average, that despite taking an aggressive hack. His plate discipline is solid, and he’s become more adept at using all fields over the past year. As much as Bell improved at the plate in 2009, he made even larger strides defensively. Once seen as a future first baseman, Bell has made significant improvement in his instincts and footwork at the hot corner, while his arm has always been a plus. In an age where many players focus solely on the batting cage, Bell’s commitment to defense also speaks to his makeup.
The Bad: While Bell is a switch-hitter, he still struggles against left-handers, as hit he just .193 with one homer against them in 2009. He’s done an excellent job maintaining his condition over the last two years, but it will always be something that needs attention for him to stay at third base. He’s an average runner at best, and he will likely be a tick below average by the time he gets to the big leagues.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 9, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
wow the 2 things which were horrible before for him...
ability to stay at third and conditioning… now they are good…
nice… now we have to settle for average to below average once again..
by matthewmafa on Nov 9, 2009 1:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
fangraphs also had a super write up.
the good news is he plays for Baltimore, so there’s a 1/32 chance he’ll actually stay with the O’s. They don’t seem to be able to hold onto anyone lately.
by Seanny Rotten on Nov 9, 2009 6:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Based on the story it is a lot of talk about nothing because he can’t purchase the team based on his conditions.
“I’m not a fan of debt-driven acquisitions,” Cuban wrote. “If a unique situation came up where I could contribute capital to buy out a majority shareholder and gain control, with existing shareholders or note holders staying in place, I would consider it.”
That situation is not currently available with the Dodgers. There are no shareholders outside the McCourt family, according to court documents.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 9, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like a no-go
That would have been way too easy of a solution.
by prosellis on Nov 9, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Its a definite maybe.
I liked how he said he wasn’t a fan of debt-driven acquisitions, even if it was just a dig at McCourt.
Pittsburgh would be a much better match though.
by Cool Dudes on Nov 9, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He means as part of an ownership group that would buy the team, similar to Jeff Moorad in SD as noted by Shaikin.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I actually sent Cuban an email suggesting that he buy the team. What did i get out of it? He and his brother are now following me on twitter. I also told him I’d be here if he needs anything. :)
I’ll keep you posted on our dicsussions.
by KellyStephen on Nov 9, 2009 4:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
oops...
just his brother is following me.
by KellyStephen on Nov 9, 2009 4:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You did not.
Well . . . the world’s a small place! That’s cool!!
What reasons did you cite?
by Seanny Rotten on Nov 9, 2009 4:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I did…it was actually a note to “Ask Mark Cuban”:
Mr. Cuban:
I’m a 48 year-old father of 4 and a huge sports fan. I live in Orange County, California and have been in California all my entire life. I’ve been in the tech business for 25+ years; obviously not as successful as you but I’ve had my moments.
Two things for you:
1. I really enjoy your blog . I like your candor and your POV, and you make some excellent points.
2. Given the recent situation w/the McCourt’s here in Southern California, my two brothers and I were discussing potential outcomes and we all came to the same conclusion: you should buy the franchise. I know you wanted the Cubs, but the Dodgers are in a bigger market. And they have a better history and more upside given their young talent. And a side benefit: it will keep you close to the Lakers so you can keep an eye on Buss (and buy the Lakers once he figures out it’s time to sell).
I’m a life-long Dodger fan so if you need insight on the team or its history feel free to shoot me an email or give me a call. And if you need help running the team once you buy them, or just need a local fan as a sounding board, I’m here for you.
FYI, I used to think you were a jerk until I read an article several years ago where you said you left your living room in your new mansion empty so you and your friends could play waffle ball. You’re obviously my kind of people, so I apologize for thinking poorly of you in the past.
by KellyStephen on Nov 9, 2009 7:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think you could make this and his reply an entire fanpost.
I like this and have a few comments, but don’t want to derail this here thread.
by Seanny Rotten on Nov 9, 2009 8:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So McCourt as a minority owner usurped by Cuban. Interesting thought.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 9, 2009 4:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He could just get other investors with him.
I’m sure they could come up with something. If the team is declared CP, I don’t think either side is going to have a choice.
by oshea2002 on Nov 9, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
YESSS
THIS is GREAT NEWS.. for me at least.. idk what everyone thinks about this..
by matthewmafa on Nov 9, 2009 1:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The best part of your post was I was trying to figure out which Cuban defector wanted to play for us (for some reason I glossed over the word “buying”) :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought a wealthy Cuban was going to buy the team
for some reason Mark Cuban didn’t register with me until I clicked on the link.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 9, 2009 3:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I seriously wouldn’t mind cuban buying the team right now (not the whole, but as he said, majority)
by LAD17 on Nov 9, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
KING OF THE LITTLE THINGS in BaseBALL
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/king-of-the-little-things-2009
who does the LITTLE things the best….
Guess who is number 1 this year in Baseball…….
CASEY BLAKE!!!!
Guess who is number 1 from 2007-2009…..
MATT KEMP??/ yes matt kemp…
wow matt kemp does the ilittle things great??
by matthewmafa on Nov 9, 2009 1:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I liked this line: Casey Blake is no surprise. I mean, look at that beard!
by LA Taco on Nov 9, 2009 2:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I would like for ned to sign Derosa or Belliord to play second. And I hope he add an ace to the rotation. I know some people would like for ned to sign Lackey but I think it would be better if we could find a way to get Doc from Toronto via a trade but only if he is signed for atleast 2 year past his present contract I don’t want to trade for Doc if it’s only for next year. And the last think I would do is sign Wolf or Padilla to complete the rotation. A rotation of Doc Kershaw Chad Kuroda and either Wolf or Padilla would be great
by Dodgermanramon on Nov 9, 2009 2:53 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think it is realistic to be able to re-sign Halladay to a short-term contract as a condition of the trade. As it is, he will be a free agent after 2010, heading into his age 34 season. His best shot at a long-term contract is after 2010, or perhaps as an extension / part of a trade, rather than heading into his age 36 season.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Newsflash: Sarah from Dodgers.com says Kershaw is not ready to be an ace and Billingsley doesn’t have the personality to be one.
Film at 11.
by silverwidow on Nov 9, 2009 3:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
It came up while googling Kershaw’s name.
by silverwidow on Nov 9, 2009 3:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
How did she get her post?
Her writing leaves much to be desired.
by Tripon on Nov 9, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
She has a disability of some sort.
by silverwidow on Nov 9, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah she has Cerbral Palsy dudes.
Chill out.
by Ian Capilouto on Nov 9, 2009 3:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think it is unreasonable to criticize her writing skills. Her story is amazing and heartwarming and all of that, but that doesn’t mean she should have a column on a major website.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2009 3:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Criticize it if you want, I actually don't care if you do or not.
I am just saying to take it into context.
by Ian Capilouto on Nov 9, 2009 3:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not any worse than Plaschke
So when you put it on a curve its not that bad.
She should really probably meet someone though before talking about their character.
by Cool Dudes on Nov 9, 2009 3:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
She's at the game every night
so I expect she has talked to Chad, while I don’t agree with character assessment and production she has met and talked to the man.
Still I don’t understand what the characteristics are that make up an ace. The personality difference between Koufax and Drysdale were large, Fernando and Orel we could go on and on. Did Orel really become the pitcher he become because Tommy nicknamed him bulldog or was it simply a maturation of his pitching skills?
Her disability aside, her columns should be open to praise or criticism based on the content.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 9, 2009 4:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought she posted from her home in Texas
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2009 4:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Am I talking about a different person?
I think I screwed up an assumption. I thought she was the person in the wheel chair who sits right behind the blog spot.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 9, 2009 5:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No
That is a different woman (forgot her name).
Sarah Morris is this lady.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2009 5:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Again
I’m an idiot. I guess if I ever read anything she wrote I’d have read her bio. I knew she was disabled but didn’t know how, I saw a writer in a wheelchair, she covered the Dodgers, I jumped to erroneous conclusion.
So who is the lady in the wheelchair, she was at every game I went to and seemed to have a great rapport with her peers and the players?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 9, 2009 5:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure what outlet she writes for
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2009 5:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Guess I'll ask Josh so
I’m not so ignorant.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 9, 2009 5:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 9, 2009 5:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My take on it
Is that she is disabled and is it really worth it to be so critical about it? Does her writing really merit profound criticism and even sarcasm (a cheap form of humor)? Maybe I read into the posting and brought sarcasm from it and am incorrect.
by Ian Capilouto on Nov 9, 2009 4:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I would criticize her no differently than I would any other writer with a column at dodgers.com. I don’t Sarah would want me to treat with kid gloves just because she’s overcome a disability in order to write a column.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 9, 2009 4:47 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
After reading her bio
I have to agree with Ian. Kid gloves it is. I can’t even being to imagine the determination she has to even write a sentence. I’m ashamed I’ve been so ignorant of her story.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 9, 2009 5:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't be
She gained recognition via a Plaschke article, so it’s OK if you didn’t read something by him :)
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2009 5:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I bet she would have used the word “begin” instead of “being”. Man I’m getting sloppy in my comments.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 9, 2009 5:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think she is very admirable, but I also believe she expects to be criticized or praised on content. That said, I never comment on her column because I find most of the comment sections at dodgers.com to be wastelands.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 9, 2009 5:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have emailed with her in the past and I think she can take her lumps. As long as people are discussing her writing I think she’s happy.
by LA Taco on Nov 9, 2009 4:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You're like those condescending townspeople on South Park
who bugged and annoyed the school nurse who was a conjoined twin (to her face). All she wanted to do was live her life, but the townspeople gave this dumb “overcoming adversity” award or some such crap.
Ian, your behavior while quite possibly well intentioned does no one who is disabled any good.
by Seanny Rotten on Nov 9, 2009 6:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
omar minaya just arrived in chicago. looking for power hitter (holliday?), starter (wolf?) and catcher (molina?) #mets
Also, all of the 2009 Dodgers coaching staff is coming back for 2010.
by Tripon on Nov 9, 2009 3:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
# JeffFletcherAOL
Despite the continued ownership squabble, Ned Colletti said it’s still business as usual for him. #Dodgersless than 20 seconds ago from TweetDeck
* Reply
- Jeff FletcherJeffFletcherAOL
Colletti, on Torre: “He’s expressed a serious interest in coming back (beyond 2010). We’ll talk about it and see where it goes.” #Dodgers3 minutes ago from TweetDeck
* Reply
- Jeff FletcherJeffFletcherAOL
The #Dodgers still view Billingsley and Kershaw as potential aces, so don’t expect them to empty out the truck for Halladay, Lackey, etc.8 minutes ago from TweetDeck
by Tripon on Nov 9, 2009 3:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
big difference between Halladay (trade) and Lackey (FA), no?
by LA Taco on Nov 9, 2009 4:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Tripon Tweets
should be a daily fanpost here.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 9, 2009 5:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
alternatives
“Tripon’s Twitterverse”
“The Daily Donut, by Tripon”
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2009 5:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But they are your donuts!
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 9, 2009 6:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is our hill, and these are our beans!
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2009 7:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sick of people bringing up Kershaw's age as a "disqualifier"
If he’s the best pitcher on the Dodgers’ staff, then he’s the ace. Media types need to quit being such narrow minded morons.
by silverwidow on Nov 9, 2009 4:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
The worst offenders are the umpires. They discriminate based on age, Kershaw got screwed over his start and appearances leading him to pitch higher in the strike zone.
by Tripon on Nov 9, 2009 4:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly I think it was Kershaws youth that betrayed him in that situation
He adjusted by bringing his pitches too far into the strike zone. It was a bad situation getting squeezed, but the ump was calling pitches pretty randomly that night, he wasn’t consistently not knowing where the strike zone was. He compounded it by throw pitches that were just too good for that lineup. Of coarse, everyone else got shelled to in the post season, but K-shaw is not a mere mortal so we have to hold him to a higher standard.
I agree though, why not just call him the ace and be done with it. Were not going to get a better pitcher.
by Cool Dudes on Nov 9, 2009 4:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Only Schmidt left
Castro, Ohman, and Loretta filed for free agency today, per Dylan Hernandez. The only Dodger left who is eligible to file is Jason Schmidt, who is probably just going to retire anyway.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2009 4:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
What's the other option other than declare free agency?
by Cool Dudes on Nov 9, 2009 4:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing. If you don’t declare FA, the last team that had your services is the only team you can negotiate with.
by Tripon on Nov 9, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Schmidt will still likely file anyway
even if he will retire. Just to keep any and all options open. For instance, Greg Maddux filed last year.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2009 4:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So you're saying he's not going to try to reivent himself
as a utility infielder?
Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night, may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright.
by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Nov 9, 2009 4:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
When does Schmidt get removed from the 40-man?
Say he doesn’t file anytime soon.
by silverwidow on Nov 9, 2009 5:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I believe when the 15-day filing period is over
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2009 5:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think baseball should expand to 53-man rosters like football?
by silverwidow on Nov 9, 2009 5:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why am I asking or why do should they?
by silverwidow on Nov 9, 2009 5:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d like to know the answer to both.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 9, 2009 5:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
1. Just wanted to get a reaction. Question wasn’t completely serious and I’m a big football fan, so.
2. To protect more players from the Rule V draft?
by silverwidow on Nov 9, 2009 5:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think there is a need to have more spots to protect more players. If an organization isn’t smart enough to maneuver its roster so that it doesn’t lose, by definition, major league ready players, it doesn’t deserve to keep them.
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2009 5:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
is the table in any particular order?
I’d say “Yes” to any of them if the price is right and they fit a need.
vr, Xei
by Xeifrank on Nov 9, 2009 4:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Dodger / Angel date change
The Dodgers and Angels are swapping the home games for the interleague series in 2010 due to a June 6 U2 concert in Anaheim.
The preliminary schedule released in September had the Angels hosting the Dodgers in a weekend series June 11, 12 and 13 and the Dodgers hosting the Angels in a midweek series June 22, 23 and 24. Now the Dodgers will host the first series and the Angels will host the second.So is this good or bad for the Dodgers? Assuming there is always an attendance bump for the Angel games compared to the average visiting team, is that bump bigger or smaller on weekdays or weekends?
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 9, 2009 5:08 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
as long as it’s not a Springsteen or Journey concert.
vr, Xei
by Xeifrank on Nov 9, 2009 5:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you only 50%. Is that half-heartedly?
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by David Young on Nov 9, 2009 5:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
that’s actually good…weekend @ Mecca is easier for me than mid-week, and I can get to Anaheim during the week. Sweet.
by KellyStephen on Nov 9, 2009 7:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The bizarre Wakefield contract is finaly done
In 2005, Tim Wakefield signed an extension for 2006 and beyond with the Red Sox that paid him $4 million for 2006, with a perpetual $4 million option. Each time an option was exercised, a new one would be born. The Sox exercised their $4 million option in 2007, 2008, and 2009, but for 2010 they have ended one of the more club-friendly contracts in MLB.
They signed Wake to a 2-year deal worth $5 million ($3.5m in 2010, $1.5m in 2011) with about $2 million in possible incentives.
http://www.overthemonster.com/2009/11/9/1123372/sox-bargain-gets-cheaper-wakefield
Wakefield is at or near the top in many Red Sox pitching categories:
Starts – 388, 1st
IP – 2711.1, 3rd (Clemens 1st at 2776)
Wins – 175, 3rd (Clemens & Cy Young 192)
K – 1869, 2nd (Clemens 1st at 2590)
He also leads the franchise in losses (150), HR allowed (357!), hits (2615) and walks (1012) by wide margins
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2009 5:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Just thought I would point this out
Wakefield with Boston – 525 games, 109 ERA+
Don Sutton with Dodgers – 550 games, 110 ERA+
by Eric Stephen on Nov 9, 2009 5:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
HOF:)
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Nov 9, 2009 5:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Tim Dierkes of MLB Traderumors
Has Erik Bedard going to the Dodgers
26. Erik Bedard – Dodgers. If the Dodgers don’t want to pony up the cash or prospects for a true ace, they could buy a Bedard lottery ticket instead.
And…
23. Jon Garland, Dodgers. Bringing back Garland would be a safe move, though the Dodgers already declined his $10MM option. Garland required a $7.25MM guarantee a year ago, and he had a better season, so this is an iffy prediction. The Twins, Nationals, Mets, and Brewers may be among the other teams seeking an innings-eater.
…We’re not done yet…
20. Felipe Lopez – Dodgers. They seem ready to part ways with Orlando Hudson, and Lopez might be a bit cheaper. Lopez’s 2009 season ranked fourth among all free agents in WAR.
by Julio Nievas on Nov 9, 2009 8:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Felipe Lopez is a Type A free agent. I’d pass on him if I were Ned.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 9, 2009 10:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You’re right – I must have looked at the list cross-eyed.
For some people this matters: Lopez’s agent is Scott Boras.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Nov 10, 2009 10:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
how about getting Mark DeRosa?
or soriano for the pen?? that would be sick
but we need so more hitters…
When I look at Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of the romantics... -The Great Bill Walton
1955,1959,1963,1965,1981,1988...
1949,1950,1952,1953,1954,1972,1980,1982,1985,1987,1988,2000,2001,2002, 2009...
by shaqfor3 on Nov 9, 2009 8:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
i think starting pitching is more important… we need to really solidify it >.<
by LAD17 on Nov 10, 2009 7:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
some good hitters would be nice too though....
When I look at Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of the romantics... -The Great Bill Walton
1955,1959,1963,1965,1981,1988...
1949,1950,1952,1953,1954,1972,1980,1982,1985,1987,1988,2000,2001,2002, 2009...
by shaqfor3 on Nov 10, 2009 3:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Javy Guerra on MLB Network (tape delay)
is wearing a #32 (!!!) Dodger jersey. WTF?
He also has zero command. A wild-ass righty, to quote Phil.
by silverwidow on Nov 9, 2009 9:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Who the hell allowed that!!
Does it say KOUFAX on the back?
That is fucking ridiculous!!
by MammothDodger on Nov 10, 2009 9:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
kemp better win his GG this year,,,
Kemp and Ethier will be in the running for Silver Slugger Awards, along with outfielders Ryan Braun of Milwaukee and Jayson Werth of Philadelphia. Kemp already has been named to The Sporting News’ postseason National League All-Star team.
Kemp also should receive consideration for a Gold Glove Award after his first full season as a center fielder. His 14 outfield assists ranked second in the league.
by matthewmafa on Nov 9, 2009 10:08 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Pretty fair year for my favorite player
P.S. he might get better
by 68elcamino427 on Nov 9, 2009 10:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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