Frank McCourt has a strange way of defining "Business as Usual"
Eric seemed a bit ticked off today as Frank McCourt proved once again that economics is more important then fielding the best team now and in the future. When Ned Colletti was hired among the news of the divorce he said he was told that the Dodgers would conduct "Business as Usual". And he's right, the Dodgers are conducting business as usual for them. Ever since the summer of 2008 Frank has shown that he's more concerned with saving money and playing in the now then he is in the long term future of his Dodgers. Move after move has saved him money in the short term while allowing him to compete in the short term, but this strategy can only work so long, and just like leveraging the team time and time again at some point you have to pay the piper.
Many seemed shocked by todays news that the Dodgers would not offer Wolf/Hudson arbitration. I'm not sure why, the Dodgers have clearly had a trend for the last 18 months of saving money at every opportunity and being risk averse when it comes to arbitration.
Cost cutting moves since the summer of 2008.
2008
1. Selling/Trading Carlos Santana/Jon Meloan to the Indians for a free and clear Casey Blake. The ramifications were the loss of the best player in the California League who played a premium position in exchange for a good 3rd baseman for the current team at zero cost saving the team around $2,000,000. The only thing wrong with the deal was that to get the Indians to play Casey's salary the price seemed much much to high when you consider who the Indians got from the Brewers when they traded CC and didn't pay any salary.
2. Trading/Selling 2007 2nd round pick Michael Watt for Greg Maddux. Nothing wrong with getting Maddux but since we didn't want to pay any salary the cost of the prospect was kind of high for a 40 something year old pitcher who could barely go 5 quality innings.
3. Trading/Selling Andy LaRoche/Byron Morris for Manny Ramirez. Nothing wrong with acquiring Manny but again the Dodgers managed to acquire a player for the post season push at no financial cost to them by trading prospects.
In 2008 the Dodgers managed to trade Carlos Santana/Jon Meloan/Michael Watt/Andy LaRoche/Byron Morris and acquire Manny/Blake/Maddux while not taking on any salary. Surely a short term bonus to the team but quite a price to pay for the future instead of just spending some money.
2009
1. Deferring Andruw Jone's contract instead of simply eating it and not having to worry about the cost in the future. By deferring his contract it allowed them to sign Wolf/Hudson/Manny.
2. Deferring Manny's two year deal so that the pain would endure for many years to come.
3. Trading Tony Abreu for Jon Garland. The cash strapped Diamondbacks threw in some money ($3,661,102) to cover Garlands buy out and for that price they got someone who will probably be there starting 2nd baseman in 2010. The Diamondbacks now have a cheap 2nd baseman for the next several years while Dodgers have no Garland and no 2nd baseman.
4. Shockingly the Sherrill trade was not about money, but the long term ramifications might be felt for years to come as Josh Bell and Steve Johnson were ripped from the system.
5. With the possibility of gaining four high draft picks the Dodgers opt to not offer arbitration to Randy Wolf or Orlando Hudson because of the fear of having to pay them even though the odds of them accepting arbitration were not very high. And even if they did accept, one year deals for productive players in their 30's is usually a good plan of attack. For once they may have screwed themselves not only in the short term but in the long term. In the long term Eric noted the value of those draft picks is in the millions with these tweets from Jay Jaffe:
4 years ago Nate Silver estimated that team losing type A f-a is compensated with $12 million in draft picks.
So, for avoiding 4 bonuses ($1-2 mil per, max), Dodgers lose out on $24 mil of picks by not offering Hudson & Wolf arb. #mccourtsmustgo
In the short term we certainly could have used either Wolf or Hudson in 2010 on one year deals.
Also in 2008/2009 the Memories of Kevin Malone chronicles how the Dodgers over the last two years have spent the least amount of money on draft bonuses
The Dodgers have paid $8.5 million in signing bonuses for draft picks over the last two years -- the lowest figure among all major league teams, according to Baseball America.
The Dodgers, so proud of their heritage in Asia and Latin America, today are a non-factor in bidding for top amateur players abroad. In 2008, according to Baseball America, major league clubs combined to sign 115 such players for bonuses of more than $100,000. The Dodgers did not sign one.
Let us not forget how they handled the following draft picks as Eric reported in the comments.
2006: Dodgers draft Alex White in 14th round, big time talented P out of HS, don’t sign him (he went #15 to Indians in 2009)
2007: Dodgers draft Kyle Blair in 5th round, fail to sign him for $1.35m…he goes to USD and will be 1st rounder in2010.
And you wonder why I was shocked that Garret Gould was signed. I wonder what Logan White had to do to make that happen?
Face it, this ownership has cash flow problems and has done everything it can possibly do to mitigate current financial obligations by either deferring the problems to the future or selling assets (prospects) to help them compete in the short term. A $100 Million dollar payroll is no small amount but when your competition in the NLCS is spending $140 Million it might seem you are playing with an arm tied behind your back. However the Padres won't feel sorry for the Dodgers since the Dodgers outspend the Padres by the same margin.
Amazingly with all of this the team still has a core good enough to get back to the postseason but now I'm wondering who will be next to finance the short term goal as they throw the long term vision away?
If Frank came out and said, you know I've got some financial problems and we need to cut back until we get this straightened out, I'd feel like writing a Hobo Frank column saying we should support this team. I could live with the current team as we throw out Haeger/McDonald/Elbert/Lindblom into the rotation along with a host of cheap NRI's. I could live with DeWitt/Belliard manning 2nd base until DeJesus is ready. I can live with having to go cheap with the farm in combination with what we currently have. What I can't live with is bullshit PR spin about Business as Usual and the selling of the future because they don't have the cash for the present. This may be business as usual for Frank McCourt but it is not how Dodgers fans expect the team to be run. At least I hope not.
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I can live with having to go cheap with the farm in combination with what we currently have. What I can’t live with is bullshit PR spin about Business as Usual and the selling of the future because they don’t have the cash for the present. This may be business as usual for Frank McCourt but it is not how Dodgers fans expect the team to be run. At least I hope not
Very well said
by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2009 4:12 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
Business as usual for a third world country. I now officially hate the cheap assed mccourts..Any commish but selig would force them to see the franchise.
by Bluetrain on Dec 1, 2009 4:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
they are the anti-yankees
to a severe extreme…
Leave Chad Billingsley alone!!!
by shaqfor3 on Dec 1, 2009 4:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Amen
As I said on DT, I wasn’t surprised by the Hudson thing, I could even almost understand it, but Wolf should’ve been a no-brainer. Except the organization currently has no brains, or at least, money. I look forward to the PR spin on that particular non-move (if there is any spin at all). Will be like trying to put a nice sparkly shine in a pile of horse droppings.
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by underdog on Dec 1, 2009 4:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I laughed at “Haeger slacks” BTW :)
by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2009 4:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Do they have to come out with PR spin?
It’s not like Plaschke or Simers is going to question these moves.
This is relatively low risk from a PR hit standpoint. The casual fan probably doesn’t understand (or care) about the implications of refusing to offer these guys arbitration.
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2009 4:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I expect them to get hit very hard
tomorrow in the papers and today in the noisebox. Not about the loss of draft picks but about being so cheap they couldn’t afford to offer Wolf arbitration as they point to the perceived huge hole in the rotation.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Dec 1, 2009 4:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Guys like Garrett Gould and Kyle Blair are in a tough spot
They had the relative misfortune of being drafted by the McCourt owned Dodgers. Either the high school draftee agrees to terms with the Dodgers or essentially gets locked out of the draft for another 3 years (unless they go to a community college.) I still maintain Gould made the smart play, the risk of getting injured in college is too great to give up a guaranteed million, but its a tough decision for 17/18 year old kids to make.
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2009 4:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Then don't sign
I have no sympathy for players, if they want to start their professional career at 18 then deal with the consequences.
by bhsportsguy on Dec 1, 2009 4:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
I’m shocked with your lack of empathy for high school kids who only want to play ball but for a price of a million dollars.
MWhite – they can always go to a JUNCO and go back into the draft, they don’t have to go to a four year school. Just saying they do have other options.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Dec 1, 2009 4:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Do guys often go to JuCo’s?
I hadn’t really followed prospects until coming to this blog, so my base of knowledge is limited to basically the three guys you posted above, where the options were ultimately Major leagues or NCAA.
Also, WRT becoming a millionaire. Is the minimum signing bonus $1MM for first round picks? Alex White wasn’t a first rounder, so it seems like he did have the “misfortune” of being drafted by the Dodgers as opposed to another club who would give him a compelling offer.
Look, my heart doesn’t really bleed for these guys either and if it is as cut and dry as they are all getting million dollar offers, then fine, but seeing as how guys like Alex White could conceivably get a modest or no signing bonus then start signing contracts in the $35-$40,000 range it is a tough draw….
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2009 4:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bryan Morris
was a number one pick of the Rays in 2005 but went to a Junco and then was picked by the Dodgers in the first round in 2006 and signed for $1,325,000 and that was as a very late first round pick. Alex White should have expected to sign for at least $1,000,000 and the same with Kyle Blair. That needs to be weighed against a complete scholarship by a great four year school and the worth of that education beyond the tuition.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Dec 1, 2009 5:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The stories if you believe them
Was that Alex White was a heavy North Carolina lean being from the area plus he wanted seven figures, the Dodgers followed him all summer, apparently made an offer but I think all along they thought he was going to college. Kyle Blair was stranger because they picked him in the 5th round and since the Dodgers generally sign all of their top ten picks, if they didn’t think they could sign him, why waste a pick that you probably could have signed another player. They are conflicting stories on whether or not he would have signed or went to school. But no question that both buys wanted $1M+ bonuses and they had the colleges they wanted to attend in their back pockets. That is why Gould is so interesting because he had a top baseball school scholarship and he didn’t get a big bonus (above slot) but not huge.
by bhsportsguy on Dec 1, 2009 6:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
what i dont understand is
why is this team so desperate to trade top prospects for money or older players?
makes no sense at all when were the 4th largest franchise in baseball.
are people really that greedy these days or are we having unknown difficulties?
Leave Chad Billingsley alone!!!
by shaqfor3 on Dec 1, 2009 4:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I don't think we are having
“unknown difficulties”, the difficulties seem to be very well known. Actions are all that matters and the Dodgers actions are of a team who only have a certain amount of cash with which to run the team.
It is hard to find fault for these actions since they allowed the Dodgers to compete in the last two NLCS’s and the damage so far has been minimal but I fear the damage will get worse if they continue this trend.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Dec 1, 2009 4:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Phil I owe you an appology
Not for anything I said but for over the last few days thinking that you had turned into a rather bitter Dodger fan. There were a couple of times I was about to post something to the effect of “lets wait and see, we do not know what will happen.” I am now glad I did not post any such thing. I now realize that your worst fears were spot on.
by MammothDodger on Dec 1, 2009 4:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
confirmation of The New Reality
day 1, 12-1-09
by 68elcamino427 on Dec 1, 2009 5:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I am feeling bitter
right now, not so much with the Wolf decision but the fact that our team would be in such incredible shape right now if Frank had spent around 5 Million per season since 2008 instead of selling the prospects. Can you imagine the packages we could have put together for Doc or Miggy or Lee or Peavy if Santana and group had not been sold away?
It is one thing for the McCourts to have to run the Dodgers on the fringe but it is another to spend lavishly on themselves while shortcutting the Dodgers. They could have done with one less house and this team would be on the verge of a NL dynasty.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Dec 1, 2009 5:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
they upgraded their lifestyle in a huge way when they got to LA. They went hollywood… private jets and other perks which were not possible as parking lot owners.
by LA Taco on Dec 1, 2009 5:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
seems up until today,
you could provide SOME justification for all Dodger transactions, however ill-advised some of them may have been, in baseball terms- though the justification for parting with C. Santana instead of a few million requires some serious “There has to be a pony SOMEWHERE underneath this pile” logic…and that was BEFORE all this happened! But any benefit of the doubt for these clowns ends today. They are giving fans the middle finger, basically saying, “Our marriage is going down and we don’t care if we take the team down with it.”
Put in less ranting, emotional terms, I’d be curious to see a list of teams that did not offer arbitration to ONE ranked free agent. From that list, I’d like to know if any were a) 1st place teams, b) play in a so-called “big market”, like LA.
by sarcastro9 on Dec 1, 2009 5:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Yankees didn’t offer arb to anyone either, but in the case of Damon and Matsui they likely would be in the $13-15m range.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2009 5:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
you can accuse the Yankees of a lot of things, but pinching pennies due to personal issues sure isn’t one of them!
by sarcastro9 on Dec 1, 2009 5:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck you McCourts. Get out of LA.
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by sumo390 on Dec 1, 2009 4:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Hang down your head Tom Dooley …
Hey!
McClowns!
Wake Up!
This is LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA!
by 68elcamino427 on Dec 1, 2009 4:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
What if we give up our 1st round pick for Rafael Betancourt?
by silverwidow on Dec 1, 2009 4:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I might kill someone if that happens. I can easily see McCourt O.K. that move…because, you know, Troncoso, Belasario, Sherrill, Kuo, Broxton, and maybe Elbert/Mcdonald aren’t enough good arms for the bullpen.
by Ivdown on Dec 1, 2009 4:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We’re going to give it up for Scutaro…
by Julio Nievas on Dec 1, 2009 4:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Now THAT
will really make me angry. I keep thinking well at least we still have 1st round draft choice and then I remember it could easily be flittered away.
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by underdog on Dec 1, 2009 9:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why did MLB accept the McCourt bid?
It was clear he didn’t have the cash. Broad came in and wanted to buy the team, but was turned away.
Not a conspiracy, exactly, but what’s the deal with accepting the McCourts for LA when he couldn’t get a deal for the Red Sox?
by LA Taco on Dec 1, 2009 4:54 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
OH and now
do any of you agree the McCourts are poster children for the credit crunch? Their the Dubai of baseball owners.
by LA Taco on Dec 1, 2009 4:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Are we supposed to pretend that this has nothing to do with the divorce?
At least last year (when the crunch still existed) the team was still somewhat functioning. They offered arbitration to Lowe and Manny.
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2009 4:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If Eli Broad got a divorce it would not be an issue.
by LA Taco on Dec 1, 2009 5:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Um, okay
Not sure how you know that would not be an issue for a hypothetical future scenario regarding somebody else and their money/estate.
by Michael White on Dec 1, 2009 5:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
People with very large amounts of money have public data available about them which makes such thing easy to determine. For example, Eli Broad has a net worth of about $5.2bn. Splitting his estate in half would not produce a scenario where the Dodgers would have to scrimp and save.
by LA Taco on Dec 1, 2009 5:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Personally
I think the credit crunch on an over leveraged millionaire with no other assets is still the main problem and not the divorce. I’ll even go so far to blame the credit crunch on the divorce since most divorces have money as the problem and once the McCourts started having money issues, their marriage fell apart.
He has been unable to borrow anymore which means he’s totally dependent on the the Dodgers for his income. This house of cards is going to fall and we can only hope it does not take the Dodgers with them.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Dec 1, 2009 5:42 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Really?
I thought I went a little overboard and expected to be attacked for hyperbole.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Dec 1, 2009 5:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The #1 main problem for the Dodgers is all the debt service related to the McCourts’ purchase of the team.
The divorce will have an effect, or is having an effect, because as their own personal finances get worse they can’t qualify for more loans, etc. (although the credit crunch and RE crash had more to do with it), so the belts get tighter and we suffer.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2009 5:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Uh, it just did
His wife probably dumped because his sorry ass because he was poor.
The fact that she is fucking the Pillsbury Doughboy doesn’t make this a stretch.
by Cool Dudes on Dec 2, 2009 12:13 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
MLB didn't want the Dodgers to push up salaries
The last thing MLB wants is for the Dodgers to turn into the Yankees. Player salaries would go insane.
When the McCourts bought the team, I heard they were specifically selected because they weren’t rich enough to be a risk to the other owners’ payrolls.
by MattBakerJr on Dec 1, 2009 9:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Broad...
….only expressed interest AFTER the deal was all-but-done with the McCourts. Where were the Los Angeles billionaires when Fox put the team up for sale?
by CanuckDodger on Dec 1, 2009 4:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
+1
and where are they NOW? There have GOT to be a few eccentric rich folk that don’t want to see their team go down in flames.
by sarcastro9 on Dec 1, 2009 4:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
all but done? So you mean the deal wasn’t done. 110% credit or 100% cash, which would be better for the Dodgers, the fans and the city?
by LA Taco on Dec 1, 2009 5:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
When it went public that the deal was in jeopardy
Broad made an offer to step in and buy the Dodgers.
by kensai on Dec 2, 2009 2:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
it's been long forgotten, but
not even a whole generation ago, the Yankees were awful, and I mean AWFUL! Steinbrenner was the most hated man in town, and any time anything would go wrong with the Yankees, “George Must Go!” chants would fill Yankee Stadium. I think the pressure was part of Fay Vincent’s ill-fated (for him, anyway) decision to oust Steinbrenner. It’s probably one of the reasons why the Yankees were able to bounce back, and why Steinbrenner actually sort of mellowed when he came back.
I’m not suggesting this story could play out anything CLOSE with the Dodgers next season- for one thing, the McCourts, unlike Steinbrenner, are total lost causes who clearly don’t give a shit about the team they own- but we as fans need to put as much pressure on them as possible next season. Ideally, the Dodgers will still do well, but we can still find our spots to make Frank squirm from his seat next to the 3rd base dugout- like if the Wolfman shuts us down, or O-Dog hits one out!
by sarcastro9 on Dec 1, 2009 4:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
So we should hope that McCourt gets caught hiring an ex-con to spy on Manny Ramirez? :)
by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2009 5:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Yeah, I suppose that’s the one missing ingredient in all of this! :) But hey, you never know- Manny humiliated them far worse than Dave Winfield did Steinbrenner!
by sarcastro9 on Dec 1, 2009 5:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Miggy, Jackson and Laird plus the Tigers paying 10 mill a year
for
Loney, D. Gordon, E. Martin, Lindblom, Martin, Sherrill, Eovaldi, Scott Van Slyke, and Lambo.
By doing that the Dodgers save around 10-12 million and add close to the same.
Lol. Now that’s a deal McCourt might like, because not only is the payroll close to the same, but he won’t have to worry about paying any of our good young prospects later on down the line!!!
I hate McCourt.
by Ivdown on Dec 1, 2009 4:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What do people think, hahaha.
by Ivdown on Dec 1, 2009 5:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I’m playing Rock Band tonight. That will take my mind off today.
Unless of course I stumble across “Hungry Like The Wolf.” Damn it all!!!
by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2009 5:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
...it's a nice day for a black wedding ...
by 68elcamino427 on Dec 1, 2009 6:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice
I’m stoked that you all even know who X is.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Dec 1, 2009 6:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I only saw X live once, but I’ve never forgotten it.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 1, 2009 8:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Get the fucking out of Los Angeles
You know who (I adlibbed the fucking part)
by Cool Dudes on Dec 2, 2009 12:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty freakin' pissed right now
And I’m with Mwhite. I think this is a result of the divorce. Plus I’m also pissed with the crappy PR moves. Nothing Rawitch says will convince me that this was for the best.
Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night, may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright.
by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Dec 1, 2009 7:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Doing some research
more info to follow, but I thought this was interesting:
Of the top 14 players in WAR in 2009, 10 were first round picks, all in the top 17.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2009 7:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Lets see, the other 4 would be Pujols, Utley, Zobrist, and….idk just off the top of my head.
by Ivdown on Dec 1, 2009 8:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
As a friend of mine used to say, “this is eff ewe see tee.”
Like many, I could rationalize a semi-plausible reason not to offer arb to Hudson, but not offering Wolf boggles the mind with only monetary reasons to explain it. As Bernie Taupin once wrote, “It’s sad, so sad, it’s a sad, sad situation, and it’s getting more and more absurd.”
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 1, 2009 8:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Don't look now, but
Bengie Molina was not offered arbitration. Who knows, this could be a major piece of Ned’s plan on December 12…….
by silverwidow on Dec 1, 2009 9:08 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I will punch a baby in the face if that happens
by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2009 9:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
How many teams did offer arbitration today?
Not to defend the Dodgers since I’m as po’d as anyone, but seems to be going around, this not offer anyone arbitration thing.
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by underdog on Dec 1, 2009 9:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Full list at MLBTR
also in comments of new post:
by Eric Stephen on Dec 1, 2009 9:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This method of running the team
‘robbing Peter to pay Paul’ as it seems, can’t last forever – in fact, the house of cards would certainly start coming down around 2012 when the kids start walking away because Frank can’t pay them. Up until then, I suppose the McCourts can get away with this sort of slight of hand management to muddle through, but it’s certainly in our best interests to get a new owner in before Frank can do more damage to the 2012+ Dodgers.
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