Pierre Deal Complete; Link & Ely Come to LA
The Dodgers and White Sox have finalized the Juan Pierre trade, with the Dodgers receiving pitchers Jon Link and John Ely from the White Sox, per Bruce Levine of ESPNChicago.com.
Link is on the 40-man roster, which brings the Dodgers' total to 36. Link has two option years remaining. Ely was drafted in 2007, and doesn't have to be placed on the 40-man roster (for protection in the Rule 5 draft) until 2011.
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Close to zero. Rule 5ers Monasterios & Zerpa will be given every shot to make it, as will the out of options pair of Stults and Haeger.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 18, 2009 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
The title has a link.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 18, 2009 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
in that case….
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 18, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
So the link is Link?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Dec 18, 2009 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
Finally some Link news that isn’t about Tiger Woods.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 18, 2009 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
At least you didn't ask if he was
Missing.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants country, and damned proud of it.
Ely's Coming
Ely’s comin’
Ely’s comin’ (Ely’s a-comin’)
Well you better hide your heart, your loving heart
Ely’s a-comin’ and the cards say… a broken heart
Ely’s comin’, hide your heart, girl
Ely’s comin’, hide your heart, girl
Girl, Ely’s a-comin’, you better hide
Girl, Ely’s a-comin’, you better hide
Girl, Ely’s a-comin’, you better hide
Girl, Ely’s comin’, hide your heart, girl (hide it)
You better, better hide your heart
Ely’s comin’, better walk
(Well that’s lame, but if as a soft-tossing righty….)
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
X at the Wiltern tomorrow night
http://www.livenation.com/event/getEvent/eventId/413556?c=dm-2805786&p=32420926
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Dec 18, 2009 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
This may be the first time that a Three Dog Night lyric (really Laura Nyro) triggered an X reference.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 18, 2009 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
I missed the news that Exene has MS. I also didn’t know that Billy Zoom was working with X again. I am out of touch.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 18, 2009 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
30 years later
we are so fucking old
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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 18, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
Don’t I know it. My office mate is just over half my age; many of my references are totally lost on him. (Coincidentally, his name is also “Link”.) I’m now one of those old guys that complain a bit too much and endlessly tell “war stories”. How do I describe X to a 20-something? Who is the X of today?
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 18, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
Don't know
but the little I’ve heard of the Yeah Yeah Yeahs tells me they took something from the Siouxsie and the Banshees notebook.
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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 18, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
Define old. I, one of the writers, am 49. Phil is a shade older than me.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 18, 2009 11:10 PM PST up reply actions
Iggy pop running around without his t-shirt in the 21st century
Kind of like Garciapara still playing.
Nice. I get it.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 18, 2009 11:38 PM PST up reply actions
You guys dont seem that old.
Im not kissing ass or something, but on some other blogs people really show their age.
I’ll credit being a native Angeleno for keeping me mellow and keeping my ass stick-free.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Dec 18, 2009 11:39 PM PST up reply actions
I'm even more glad we didn't trade him for Milton Bradley!
Sheesh- just when everything was going so well for the Mariners…
here's a small article from a Chicago sports writer
The trade seems to be bothering him, which is great for us:
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2009/12/ely-would-be-a-high-price-for-pierre.html
Personally, I’m not one of those who thought getting rid of Pierre in and of itself was a victory- ESPECIALLY since we (and I mean we literally here, as the paying fans) are still paying more than half his salary. But I knew he had to go under the current circumstances, and I’d much rather get two mid-range prospects who have a shot at being good major league pitchers, rather than an overpriced major league pitcher we already know to be nothing more than mediocre. Besides, given all the potential stars of the future that the Dodgers have given up for decent-but-unspectacular veterans lately, it’s nice to be on the other side, for a change.
Wow the comments on that story
are depressing. Talk about snarky and grouchy.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants country, and damned proud of it.
who me?!
Funny, I guess it’s all about perspective- I thought I was looking on the bright side here! I’m genuinely glad that someone in Chicago is sweating a little over this. I’m also glad that maybe something more than a salary dump will come out of this. The “snarkiness” that you detect is more about what we DIDN’T do here (straight salary dump, etc.), and about some of the things we’ve done in the recent past- which I think we all have a right to feel grouchy about…
I'm fairly certain
Underdog is talking about the link and not you.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
based on the content of the article, I'm not sure
But either way, I think this is our biggest victory of the offseason, which so far, isn’t saying a whole lot. (ok, that was a bit snarky :) )
Silly boy I meant the comments under that Chicago story
not you ;-) There’s this whole battle between White Sox fans and Cubs fans which is this world I forget about. Read those comments…
No I totally agree with you, it makes me like the trade more. I think the odds are one of those guys contributes to the Dodgers, at least, which makes it a win.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants country, and damned proud of it.
OHHhhhhhh
I guess based on the reaction from some of my more incendiary posts in the past, I figured maybe I’d started something again. Wow- so this must be how Milton Bradley feels like ALL the time! Yikes. LMAO
Well, at least I gave Phil another legitimate chance to use the word “link” there- well played, sir!
I didn't even have to read the
Link to know that Underdog was not talking about your comments. He’s to polite to call someone “snarky” and “grouchy” who posts here.
By the way, I know Eric and I removed a few commentators a while back but the general tone on TBLA has been very pleasant for a while now. Especially given what we have to work with regarding the Dodgers.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Given
I’m the spaz who spilled juice on his laptop this week and have been bummed out since then, I’m more likely to be the snarky and grouchy one here this week ;-) but thanks for the support. I should try to be clearer though for those who don’t know me here.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants country, and damned proud of it.
The result is correct
even if his process is still flawed.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Dec 18, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
So sad.....
To see JP leave. But at least we get to see who might replace Manny in the future. Might it oldman Repko, or bacteria leg Paul? Oh well. Let’s just play good ball, and have some strong pitching to last all summer. Let’s go Dodgers!!!!
by Skunkburner on Dec 18, 2009 1:14 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Jason Repko turns 29 later this month. At this point, isn’t he just another AAAA outfielder like recent Dodger farmhands John-Ford Griffin and George Lombard (and his orchestra)? His last two years he put up a .822 and a .800 OPS in Vegas and Albuquerque, respectively.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Depends if the bases are loaded or not
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by Phil Gurnee on Dec 18, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
I was trying to come up with a funny response, but that wins.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 18, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions
I almost shat myself when he came in for Wolf with them loaded and got the out in the NLCS
after a bases loaded tripple landed foul by about 2 cm.
Speaking of our erstwhile bullpen vets
WIth all the arms that the Dodgers are collecting, and with the lack of talk from anyone about the bullpen needing a veteran arm, does this mean no Park/Weaver/Mota signing for this offseason? Does Colletti consider Sherrill to be sufficient veteran presence in the pen?
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
If anything, it might be one of the Miller/Ayala NRI types that plays the veteran role. Although I thought they were still semi-interested in bringing back Weaver.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 18, 2009 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
I just watched the last hour of Mr. Baseball
and think Loney needs to grow a Selleck-esque mustache to gain the power stroke.
How many days till Bradley blows up in Seattle?
If we yield now, all is over; but if we fight, there is yet a hope that we may stand upright
I have five bucks on today
My mouth's bleedin', Burt! My mouth's bleedin'!
by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Dec 18, 2009 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
So do we know how this new pitcher pronounces his name? Is it EE-lie or EE-lee?
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
“I’m a Dodger, that’s all I know. I’m just ecstatic to be going to a solid organization, to be honest with you.”
That reaction has not been universal in the Ely camp. After all, the right-handed pitcher grew up a Sox fan.
“In the family there’ve been mixed reviews,” he said. “Some people are a little irritated they won’t get to see me in a White Sox jersey. But, most people are happy I’m getting an opportunity from a great organization.”
His first name isn’t Robert, so I’m guessing the former.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 18, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
Anyone who is not a Mariners fan and doesn’t drink their Kool-aid is their enemy. Similar to MCC. LL is like the smart preppy school types, who if you don’t dress like them, drive German cars like them and don’t drink your tea with your pinky sticking out will single you out of the crowd. MCC on the other hand is like the reform school types, who can be fun to get drunk with or skip school with, but will steal your wallet and threaten to beat you up after school if you don’t give them your lunch money types.
vr, Xei
Ha
Post of the day, maybe I’ll join MCC and post this comment. They might like it or they might boot me out like the other Bay team.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Jamey Carroll deal is official
none of the buzzwords were used in the release:
"We are very pleased to add Jamey," Colletti said. "He provides us with defensive versatility and can also be an asset offensively. He also brings the Dodgers great make up and work ethic
but "work ethic" is pretty close
maybe Ned reads the blogs, and figured he needed to change his cliches around!
Make Up
equals “gamer” and work ethic = “scrappy”
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 18, 2009 3:23 PM PST reply actions
If Jon moves on will the PR from ESPN say
Noted author of 100 things to do before you die and Dodger Blogger Jon Weisman will be moving …
or
Noted Dodger Blogger and author of 100 things to do before you die Jon Weisman will be moving…
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Interesting...
I get a sense it is awkward for him right now since he has not commented on it today when it was linked in the DT comments.
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 18, 2009 3:30 PM PST up reply actions
Seems that details need to be worked out
I’m sure he was not pleased to see his name in the link. When ddoes ESPNLA kick off? The K Brothers at least have the best team in basketball to write about. Ramona used to dabble with the Clippers I wonder if she will cover them or if they will simply ignore them.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Oh
then I guess they best be working on the particulars.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I guess I should google it
but since I don’t watch ESPN anymore, it this a new station or simply an On-Line presence ESPN is doing in each major city?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
So all these people
are now working for Disney. Ha
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Well he be able to enforce his rules
on ESPN if indeed he moves DT there? I don’t see how.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I'm sure him and ESPN
settled that in the contract.
by Julio Nievas on Dec 18, 2009 5:20 PM PST up reply actions
I think you gotta go blog first, book second.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 18, 2009 3:32 PM PST up reply actions
I think that
Jon is penning his farewell post right now and needs time to compose it. I think the lead in will either be from a Hemmingway book, TV show or movie. Hopefully not a Bruce Springsteen song, that would really disappoint me. :)
vr, Xei
From Dylan Hernandez
on Twitter:
Dodgers General Manager Ned Colletti on talks with Cincinnati: “That’s all but dead.”
…which probably means a done deal tomorrow :)
by Eric Stephen on Dec 18, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah
Unless Cincinnati absolutely had to shed salary to eat over half the deal, which was unlikely.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 18, 2009 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
Not that I watch ESPN much anymore
but they will have no more Eric Young (thank God), who took a job with the Astros as minor league outfield & baserunning roving instructor
Shouldn’t that be “roving baserunning instructor”? Or is he going to teach players how to wander off the bag and be picked off? (Maury Brown’s phrase, not an Eric Stephen original.)
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Mark Sweeney’s job security necessitated the change :)
by Eric Stephen on Dec 18, 2009 3:52 PM PST up reply actions
I was just listening to Simon and G-Funk's
Bridge Over Troubled Water…..It tripped me out because at the end of “Baby Driver,” there is a voice over thing that I swear is Vin Scully calling a Brooklyn Dodger game….Does anybody have any knowledge of this? Seeing as we are all Dodger fans on here….Thanks.
I don’t have the song handy, but it never occurred to me until now that Warren G was simply paying homage to Art Garfunkel with his “G Funk Era”
by Eric Stephen on Dec 18, 2009 3:53 PM PST up reply actions
After about 5 listen's back, I don't think it is Vin Scully, but it really sounds like him at first.
He says something about the “The World champion is taking a lap, something something….” I don’t think Vin Scully ever called racing.
The G Funk Era started all the way back with a nice Jewish boy from Queens.:)
by Ian Capilouto on Dec 18, 2009 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
Sounds like a race car announcer instead of Scully
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OXI51NiTAk
It sounds like “That is a world champion, just completing his run off the spectator side. That fella with more wins than any other…”
by Eric Stephen on Dec 18, 2009 3:59 PM PST up reply actions
Claudio Vargas
parlayed his nice season out of the pen into $900k guaranteed + $00k in incentives (per Tom Haudricourt)
Thomas (LA)
The Dodgers are allegedly looking at Harang. Is he a bounceback candidate? Can he be a #2 or #3?
Klaw
(2:34 PM)
Yes, I’d take a shot at him. Could be a #3 who soaks up some innings, gives them more rope to give Billingsley to hang himself.
Cory (LA)
Your comment earlier about Billingsley and the rope, what issues do you see there?
Klaw
(2:42 PM)
I wish I could explain it. It’s command, poise, all that intangible stuff – except that he has had those things in the past. The stuff coming out of his arm is fine. Psychological? Some minor soreness he’s not reporting? I just don’t know.
K Law is groping
Colletti, White and company put a big value on make-up, character, and such intangible things. They would not have handled Billingsley the way they did over the past few seasons if they didn’t thing he had the intangibles, and they would know that better than Keith Law. And what past poise and intangible stuff issues did he have in the past? The unreported physical stuff sounds more likely to me.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I read that to say
he had the intangibles in the past and they mysteriously deserted him. And the rope comment I took to mean “buy him time, take the pressure off a bit”. poorly phrased but it’s an online chat…
I can definitely buy your interpretation on the intangibles part. But the because the rope comment ends with “hang himself”, I can’t go your interpretation on that part.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
The man has battled leg issues the whole season
Come on Law, you’re better than that.
by Julio Nievas on Dec 18, 2009 5:32 PM PST up reply actions
Claims the young kids still need ‘leadership’. Claims that he has the ability to sign the younger talent to an extension but chooses not to. Claims that if they did sign some of the younger guys, they’d regret it already.
The whole interview just made me sure that I wouldn’t want Colletti as a GM.
I’m really sick of the leadership angle myself. Do the younger players on the Red Sox like Lester or Pedroia need leadership? Do the younger players on the Brewers like Braun or Fielder need leadership? Do the younger players on the Mets like Wright and Reyes need leadership? Do the younger players on Phillies like Howard and Utley needed leadership during their incredible run?
These “kids” are in their mid-20s now. Frankly, I’m tired of the angle myself. But that was such a “Ned” thing to say.
by Julio Nievas on Dec 18, 2009 5:56 PM PST up reply actions
Why wouldn’t you want to sign Kemp an extension, at least Kemp!!
by Julio Nievas on Dec 18, 2009 5:54 PM PST up reply actions
I kind of agree
with his conclusion but not so much how he got to it. At blogger night he was asked about extending the young players to long-term deals (buying out their arbitration years and first few year(s) of FAgency). His philosophy was that you want the players to play hungry, in otherwords they would play harder/better knowing that they were playing for a fat paycheck down the road (perhaps with another team though). I think now he is stating that players like Russell Martin who had a tremendous season a couple of years ago, was being named as a player the Dodgers would be crazy not to lock up. If they had, perhaps they’d be regretting that now. He also mentioned the Dodgers had the resources to instead of buyout arb years, they could just sign the players as free agents later down the road and that if the player deserved the fat paycheck (and I am paraphrasing) then he could get it then. He said the buying out of arb years was something they had talked about with agents, but didn’t sound like the two sides were anywhere close on a deal. Knowing what we know now, Kemp is probably the only one we should’ve locked up. If they had locked up Martin, Loney or to a lesser degree Billingsley there may be some teeth mashing going on. The “leadership” stuff is just front office jargon imo.
vr, Xei
Except they really do sign/trade guys for ‘leadership’ qualities. Its not the primary reason for a sign or trade but its an important part of their process. Outside of NRIs like Weaver/Belisario, what major signing/Trade didn’t have the vaunted ‘leadership’ tag?
That was later. He didn’t have that “tag” when the trade was made.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I think there is truth to this comment, despite the Dodger financial difficulties. Ignoring deferred payments, the Dodgers have very little committed to players after the next two seasons, at which time only Broxton (and Sherrill and Repko) reaches FA. According to Cot’s Baseball Contracts, the only commitments the Dodgers have for the 2012 season is a $1.25M buyout of a $6M club option on Casey Blake and a $12M club option on Furcal with no apparent buyout, but that vests if Furcal has 600 PAs in 2011. That’s it. The Dodger most certainly could wait it out and then offer contracts to the FAs that they really do want to keep, and at prices dictated by their performances to that date.
One might imagine that the Dodgers are doing this intentionally so as to have the most flexibility as possible as these players reach FA. Now, by the 2012-2013 offseason, when Ethier, Kemp, Billingsley, Martin, Loney, and Kuo all hit FA, thy Dodgers have to fish or cut bait, and they can’t afford to keep them all if they are all very good players, but they will be able to let loose those that have turned out to be disappointments.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I’m pretty sure if he did an interview with 710, then he probably did or will be doing an interview with Petros and Money on 570.
by Julio Nievas on Dec 18, 2009 6:01 PM PST up reply actions
dylanohernandez
The Dodgers signed outfielder Brian Barton to a minor-league contract that includes an invitation to major-league camp.
He's a local
Westchester HS and Loyola Marymount U (on an acedemic scholorship) briefly, then transferred to UMiami. Dodgers drafted him in the 38th round of the 2000 draft out of HS, but he “didn’t get drafted out of the University of Miami after a productive college career because teams were worried that he was going to finish his degree in aerospace engineering and hook on with Boeing, where he interned, or perhaps NASA.” I like him already. (He’s also a Reggie Cleveland All-Star candidate.)
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
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