Loney's Improvement a Key for 2010
by Eric Stephen on Dec 21, 2009 9:18 PM PST
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If this offseason has taught us anything so far, it's that the Dodger roster as it stands now, four days before Christmas, won't be much different than the one that opens the regular season on April 5 in Pittsburgh. The core of the team will carry this team as far as it's going to go. Most of that nucleus is young and on the upswing, which is good for a team that needs their improvement to fuel another postseason run.
These young players also fit a key requirement to be a Dodger these days, in that they are cheap, at least relatively so. Using Wins Above Replacement (on Fangraphs), the Dodgers' two best players last season were Matt Kemp (5.0 WAR) and Clayton Kershaw (4.2 WAR, tied with Casey Blake). Those two made a combined $871,000 in 2009, meaning they were two of the most valuable players in baseball. Many of these young players are due for raises in 2010, as the Dodgers lead baseball with nine arbitration-eligible players.
One of the most intriguing stories of 2010 will be the performance of first baseman James Loney. He is eligible for arbitration for the first time, and he will probably make somewhere between $3 million to $3.5 million next season. Loney has just over three years of service time, and here are some comparable first basemen heading into their fourth year in recent seasons:
| Stats Through 3rd Year | ||||||
| First Baseman | Year | Service Time | OPS+ | Runs | RBI | 4th Year Salary |
| Adam LaRoche |
2007 | 3 years | 114 | 187 | 213 | $3.2 million |
| Kevin Youkilis | 2008 | 3 yrs, 93 days | 109 | 234 | 199 | $3 million |
| Mike Jacobs | 2009 | 3 yrs, 47 days | 110 | 197 | 247 | $3.25 million |
| James Loney | 2010 |
3 yrs, 12 days | 112 | 200 | 265 | ??? |
| Service time courtesy of the great Cot's Baseball Contracts | ||||||
Loney is not quite at the crossroads of his Dodger career, but he is getting closer. He plays first base, the most offensive-minded position in baseball, while last season Loney had a slugging percentage of .399. It's one thing to accept relatively low production from your first baseman when he is making $465,000, as Loney did in 2009, because the team can theoretically use the savings to spend money on other positions. Now that Loney will likely make $3 million or more, it's time to look at first base with a more critical eye.
I'm not saying it's time to cut bait on Loney. He will turn 26 in April, about to enter a time which is often considered the prime of a player's career. He also has the extreme home/road splits (.709 career OPS at Dodger Stadium, .900 OPS on the road), and if anyone can figure out how to harness Road Loney at home the Dodgers will benefit greatly. We can also look to the recent past to find another Dodger first baseman who struggled as he entered his arbitration seasons.
Eric Karros -- who is on the Hall of Fame ballot for the first time this season, by the way -- was once in the very same shoes worn by Loney today. Karros won rookie of the year in 1992, hitting 20 home runs with 88 runs batted in, then struggled over the next two seasons. Loney took over Dodger first base duties in June 2007, and hit .331 with 15 dingers, only to descend into mediocrity over his next two seasons.
| Eric Karros | James Loney | |||
| Year | OPS+ (NL 1B rank) | Year | OPS+ (NL 1B rank) | |
| 1st year | 1992 | 106 (9th of 12) | 2007 | 134 (4th of 16) |
| 2nd year |
1993 | 88 (13th of 15) | 2008 | 103 (13th of 16) |
| 3rd year | 1994 | 95 (10th of 14) | 2009 | 104 (13th of 16) |
Heading into their first arbitration-eligible seasons, here's how Karros and Loney compare:
| Pre Arbitration Years | |||||||||
| Player | Years | Ages | PA | Runs | 2B | HR | RBI | BA/OBP/SLG | OPS+ |
| Eric Karros | 1991-1994 | 23-26 | 1710 | 188 | 79 | 57 | 215 | .254/.298/.417 | 95 |
| James Loney |
2006-2009 | 22-25 | 1788 | 200 | 84 | 45 | 265 | .295/.354/.451 | 112 |
Loney doesn't look so bad now, does he? That .298 on-base percentage for Karros really stands out. I don't remember caring too much about OBP back then, but wow. However, here is what Karros did during his three seasons of arbitration:
| Eric Karros Arbitration Years | ||||||||
| Year | Age | PA | Runs | 2B | HR | RBI | BA/OBP/SLG | OPS+ |
| 1995 | 27 | 620 | 83 | 29 | 32 | 105 | .298/.369/.535 | 145 |
| 1996 | 28 | 670 | 84 | 29 | 34 | 111 | .260/.316/.479 | 113 |
| 1997 | 29 | 700 | 86 | 28 | 31 | 104 | .266/.329/.459 | 110 |
| Totals | 1990 | 253 | 86 | 97 | 320 | .274/.337/.489 | 122 | |
Throw in the fact that Loney is a year younger than Karros was, and it's not hard to see a scenario in which Loney comes into his own over the next three seasons. He'll pretty much have to, because the Dodgers need it.
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i bet loney will have a way better offfensive season next year...
he will improve his walks and even lessen his strikeouts and will hit for more power now that he has abondoned that horrible toe tap… and gone back to the lifting the right leg..
by matthewmafa on Dec 21, 2009 9:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Do you remember when he stopped doing the toe tap?
I remember you pointed that out during the season, but I can’t remember when.
Loney hit .315/.388/.469 after September 1, including the playoffs, FWIW
by Eric Stephen on Dec 21, 2009 9:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i really dont rememeber and dont wanna throw out a random guess..
but it was near the end of the season
by matthewmafa on Dec 21, 2009 9:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
and i expect for him to hit
300 next year with a 375 OBP and a .475 slugging… i know its highg expectation but now that he will go back to the leg kick and dump that ridiculous toe tap, he will be a beast..
by matthewmafa on Dec 21, 2009 9:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Eric, can you explain Loney's walk spike despite little power? Its Martin-esque!
by Tripon on Dec 21, 2009 9:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
loney rarely expands his strike zone..
by matthewmafa on Dec 21, 2009 9:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It has to be more than that. He never walked as much as he did in 09
by Tripon on Dec 21, 2009 9:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
its called improvement..
all young players should improve different aspects of their games and im glad to see that loney did that with his patience greatly last year.. and hopefully he improves more and more
by matthewmafa on Dec 21, 2009 9:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps it's his ability to make contact
More fouls, less swings-and-misses, so he forces more pitches, some of which are bound to be outside the strike zone. But that’s just my theory.
My mouth's bleedin', Burt! My mouth's bleedin'!
by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Dec 21, 2009 9:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure
What’s weird is that Loney had 651 PA in 2008, and was 3.79 Pitches/PA, and had 652 PA in 2009 with 3.82 Pitches/PA.
Walks went up from 45 to 70 (UIBB from 39 to 60).
A few thoughts:
1) Taking 1st pitch: swung at 22% of 1st pitches in 2008; down to 17% in 2009.
2) Ball 3: He saw 117 2-0 counts in both years, and swung at a 2-0 pitch roughly the same in both years (35 in 2008, 34 in 2009). However, he had just 31 3-0 counts in 2008, but 46 3-0 counts in 2009.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 21, 2009 9:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
mariners beat writer
says the prospect is david cooper
by matthewmafa on Dec 21, 2009 9:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
makes sense too
the jays just got wallace from the As to be their first basemen of the future so there is no room for david cooper anywhere.. great trade for the jays.. the mariners finally lost a trade.. cooper is not that good and league was mediocre even this year tho he is filthy… morrow can be a stud..
by matthewmafa on Dec 21, 2009 9:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Cooper was a hitting machine before getting to AA. Maybe he can turn it around.
The prospect handbook labels him a poor defensive 1B and possible future DH.
by silverwidow on Dec 21, 2009 9:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
thats why toronto traded him
hes a future DH and they have many of those with wallace lind and snider
by matthewmafa on Dec 21, 2009 9:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
and yea maybe he can turn it around..
but in maybe the weakest farm system before the haladay trade, the ranked as only the 4th best prospect.. in arguably the worst system
by matthewmafa on Dec 21, 2009 9:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Poor form.
Without sources we are all animals. Is this anarchy?
by Eric Stephen on Dec 21, 2009 10:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
alright
well we will just have to wait and see..
i usually post links to everything i post.. i for got this time and now am being critisized for it.. thanks for callin me an animal
by matthewmafa on Dec 21, 2009 10:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Calm down
it was a joke. This portion of the thread can also be subtitled “Tripon gets Tripon’d”
by Eric Stephen on Dec 21, 2009 10:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
haha
GOTCHA!! i was kiddin but yeah whatever that animal thing was kinda inappropriate.. or idk it wasnt nice
by matthewmafa on Dec 21, 2009 10:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's on Twitter
from an M’s beat writer. That’s all I’ve got.
My mouth's bleedin', Burt! My mouth's bleedin'!
by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Dec 21, 2009 10:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
A Twitter search of David Cooper reveals nothing but a bunch of speculation and “IMO”
by Eric Stephen on Dec 21, 2009 10:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is as close to legit as I can find
baseballspit
Blue Jays trade Brandon League & prospect (David Cooper?) to Mariners for Brandon Morrow.
My mouth's bleedin', Burt! My mouth's bleedin'!
by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Dec 21, 2009 10:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It was a Rosenthal tweet
U.S.S. Mariner is also wondering about it:
http://tinyurl.com/yarg749
Team DTB. (Don't Trade Billingsley).
by the big grabowski on Dec 22, 2009 10:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The question though was where did the David Cooper reference come from…there were plenty of tweets confirming the deal was Morrow for League plus a prospect.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 22, 2009 10:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah
Also, I am just now gettting around to reading hte thread. Should have done that first obv…. : )
by the big grabowski on Dec 22, 2009 10:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No problem
…and to put a capper on this, MLB.com’s Jordan Bastian chimes in this morning:
Hearing that Blue Jays Minor League OF Johermyn Chavez is the prospect being sent to the Mariners in the Brandon Morrow trade
by Eric Stephen on Dec 22, 2009 10:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Loney Is My Favorite Position Player...
…but even I will reach a point where I say he has to go and we need to find somebody else for 1B, if Loney does not start producing more like the player he was in his first season and a half. Dodger Stadium being Kryptonite to him is just bizarre. As a road player, he has become everything I ever hoped he would be when he was in the minors.
by CanuckDodger on Dec 21, 2009 9:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
feel same way
he quickly became my favorite infielder because I love his, for lack of a better term, “smooth natural leftiness” lol…but I feel as though I may lose hope that he can truly give us the power we need at 1B
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
by Ollie on Dec 21, 2009 11:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Gift Horse
I thought it was the mouthpiece thing that turned him around toward the end of the season.
by Bob Hendley on Dec 21, 2009 9:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of anonymous sources
I just got wind that we signed Russ Ortiz as an NRI.
by silverwidow on Dec 21, 2009 10:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Please tell me this is a joke
My mouth's bleedin', Burt! My mouth's bleedin'!
by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Dec 21, 2009 10:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously the only scouting the Dodgers did on Ortiz was when he fucking dominated us.
by Tripon on Dec 21, 2009 10:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Did Garrett Gould’s teammate’s girlfriend leak this info too? :)
by Eric Stephen on Dec 21, 2009 10:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This comes from a reputable poster at a major Dodgers message board. No joke. :)
by silverwidow on Dec 21, 2009 10:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Excuse me while I go cry
My mouth's bleedin', Burt! My mouth's bleedin'!
by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Dec 21, 2009 10:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The link will not tell you anything more than what I posted. I don’t want to give the message board publicity because it is generally very bad (you’ll have to put two and two together). But this poster is a serious fan and is believable.
by silverwidow on Dec 21, 2009 10:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Russ Ortiz 2005-2009
10-28 record (Dodgers were two of those wins)
312.2 IP
6.56 ERA
1.785 WHIP
~5.74 FIP
4.98 BB/9
5.24 K/9
Yikes
by Eric Stephen on Dec 21, 2009 10:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yikes?
that does not explain how horrific those numbers are..
by matthewmafa on Dec 21, 2009 10:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
that does not explain well enough*
by matthewmafa on Dec 21, 2009 10:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Trying to pull a Weaver again :)
Weaver 2006-2007 MLB
5.96 ERA
1.522 WHIP
~5.19 FIP
2.32 BB/9
5.28 K/9
Weaver 2008 minors
6.17 ERA
1.559 WHIP
~5.28 FIP (total guess on the league factor there)
3.19 BB/9
6.27 K/9
However, of course Weaver’s peripherals were much better than Ortiz, at least in terms of K/BB ratio. But Ortiz is really, really bad.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 21, 2009 10:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My favorite comment on the Jays/Mariners trade
came from USSMariner on Twitter:
If only Seattle had a reporter who’d covered the Blue Jays for a long time and had connections, and could run down this story. Oh well
I have to assume Geoff Baker is the man in question. He used to cover the Blue Jays for the Toronto Star, and now writes for the Seattle Times. That’s pretty funny.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 21, 2009 10:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
will any above average pitcher sign
for 1 year 6 mill or less that we would like on the dodgers?
by matthewmafa on Dec 21, 2009 10:45 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
That sounds like Padilla range, who of course may not qualify as “above average”
by Eric Stephen on Dec 21, 2009 10:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sheets maybe, but, most likely, Wang… if any
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Dec 21, 2009 10:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Remember, Ned is supposedly working on something (trade wise) according to he himself.
by silverwidow on Dec 21, 2009 10:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Which is the Ned GM Equivalent of
Look busy because the owner is looking for lawyer money
by Cool Dudes on Dec 22, 2009 12:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN poll says Scott Rolen is the best defensive infielder of the 2000s
by silverwidow on Dec 21, 2009 10:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Limited poll
Only choices are Rolen, Pujols, Everett, and Utley
by Eric Stephen on Dec 21, 2009 10:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
rolen would defintly be number 1 out of those choices..
and the jeter mention was a joke lol
there had to be a better defensive shortstop then adam everret tho
by matthewmafa on Dec 21, 2009 11:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Vizquel at short
And I know Rolen gets a lot of credit for his D, but I’m surprised I haven’t heard Beltre in any of these decade defense discussions.
by CarolinaDodger on Dec 22, 2009 5:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
morrow
toronto has a stable of young starting pitchers and i doubt they need morrow so i really think they are going to trade morrow now for matt gamel of the brewer as one MLBTR commentor suggested… milwakee needs pitching and the jays only need is at third base.. perfect fit…
by matthewmafa on Dec 21, 2009 10:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
But isn’t Gamel kind of a butcher with the glove? Will he stick at 3B?
by Eric Stephen on Dec 21, 2009 10:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Gamel is a Wallace clone with maybe a bit more power and slightly less BA.
by silverwidow on Dec 21, 2009 10:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
One of my rules to live by
is never trust anyone who doesn’t embrace the second t (i.e. Mat, Scot, etc.)
by Eric Stephen on Dec 21, 2009 11:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
In case anyone was wondering
Mat Gamel has never faced Scot Shields.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 21, 2009 11:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
mat gamel
vs mat latos..
latos is going to be crazy good in a few years.. im really scared..
by matthewmafa on Dec 21, 2009 11:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
thats the big question mark
he has the range and stuff but the guy would make 50 + errors in a 162 game season playing everyday… hes an error machine
by matthewmafa on Dec 21, 2009 11:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m hearing this piece Seattle receives could help them land Adrian Gonzalez.
by silverwidow on Dec 21, 2009 11:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
so I forgot to mention I ran into clayton kershaw again in Dallas
only briefly though, apparently though, according to my buddies, he just got engaged
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
by Ollie on Dec 21, 2009 11:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Javier Vasquez to Yankees
Melky Cabrera and prospects to ATL.
The rich get richer. What a robbery.
by silverwidow on Dec 22, 2009 7:22 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I got the same thoughts of jealousy and rage that I got when the Yankees acquired Clemens (coming off two CYA) after winning 114 games
by Eric Stephen on Dec 22, 2009 7:26 AM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking rage and jealousy regarding the Yankee's
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-luxurytax&prov=ap&type=lgns
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Dec 22, 2009 8:27 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
On the plus
side this severely hurts the Braves now that they traded their best pitcher for little help in 2010. I don’t think any of us thinks we can compete with the Yankee’s anyway but we could easily be fighting the Braves for the Wild Card.
Yes, it has come to that.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Dec 22, 2009 8:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Harang deal not dead
Per Jeff Passan of Yahoo:
Reds willing to eat $10m but want a good prospect along with Sherrill. This fits the MO of the Dodgers right now. Total additional cost would be something like $1 million or less (Passan says $14m for Harang but it’s $15m). I reserve judgment until I know who the prospect is, of course.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 22, 2009 7:42 AM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
So are you saying that Hu doesn’t qualify as a good prospect? Doesn’t everyone know he is the future of the SS position and it would kill us to lose him?
by BFDC on Dec 22, 2009 7:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My favorite part of the article
was this:
The former closer, who should earn about $4.3 million in arbitration, would serve as trade bait for the Reds, who want to hoard prospects
I would like to know just how Passan arrived at that specific number. I thought I was specific!
by Eric Stephen on Dec 22, 2009 8:34 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why don't we just trade Sherrill and hoard prospects?!!
Then we can use that $4 MM he was going to earn and put it toward the inevitable signing of Padilla/Garland/Looper/some other shitty starter
by BFDC on Dec 22, 2009 8:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
1) Harang is better than those guys
2) FA starters cost money
Right now the Dodgers are at the point where they absolutely need cash, and rather than drive slightly out of their way to go to their bank’s ATM, they willingly pay the $3 service fee to get the money right now because they simply must have it immediately.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 22, 2009 8:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Harang is better than those guys
but I’d rather not overpay in prospects to acquire him.
by BFDC on Dec 22, 2009 9:00 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, neither would I, but circumstances and poor forward thinking have led us down this road.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 22, 2009 9:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
if we get harang
see you later mcdonald or elbert
by matthewmafa on Dec 22, 2009 8:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
how 'bout newly acquired Jon Ely instead.
Maybe since he was a ChiSox prospect as opposed to a Dodgers prospect, he is perceived to have more value :)
by BFDC on Dec 22, 2009 9:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
especially since both are salary dumps..
link = sherrill
ely= elbert or mcdonald..
juan pierre = harang..
wow its like we are doing the deal from chicago white sox point of view
by matthewmafa on Dec 22, 2009 9:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Of Course The Deal IS Dead If...
…neither the Dodgers nor the Reds will give in to the other side’s position on what should be in the deal. And I don’t get the impression the two sides are negotiating. So “dead” is the right word.
by CanuckDodger on Dec 22, 2009 8:08 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
How so
if anyone has shown an inclination to include prospects to negate salary it is the Dodgers. The Reds probably started off asking for Withrow or Gordon but will “settle” on Elbert or McDonald.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Dec 22, 2009 8:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But If The Dodgers Were Inclined to Do That IN THIS CASE...
… the deal would be done. Colletti has already said the trade is “all but dead.” Then he said on the radio that there is a trade “simmering” but it won’t get done unless the other side lowers their price. So it seems clear that regardless of whatever other occasions the Dodgers have been willing to give up prospects, or cases where they will in the future, in Harang’s case they are not willing to give up more than Sherrill.
by CanuckDodger on Dec 22, 2009 8:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Totally disagree
at the moment they are not inclined to match the price the Reds wants, that does not mean the Reds will not lower the price and take other prospects. The Reds have all the leverage here, they know we can’t take on salary, they no we need a pitcher like Harang. A “dead” deal to me is a deal that has no chance of happening, I don’t see that here. Once we have found out that the Reds are willing to eat salary for prospects then I can see a deal end up taking shape. As I said before if the Reds are going to take Sherrill they have to move Cordero which is what they may be attempting to do. We probably just define “dead” differently.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Dec 22, 2009 8:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I see the timeline as this:
a) Dodgers/Reds working on a deal
b) Colletti says deal dead
c) “sources” say deal is not dead, but sides are at a sticking point
It comes down to the Dodgers being desperate for a starter, and also unwilling to add much at all to the payroll.
I am somewhere near the “this deal will get done” side of the spectrum.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 22, 2009 8:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Mark Sheldon agrees with Canuck
Sheldon is the Reds’ MLB.com beat writer:
There are no new talks regarding #reds and #dodgers and Aaron Harang, as reported elsewhere. LA inquired but CIN not receptive to offer
by Eric Stephen on Dec 22, 2009 9:00 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the big issue goes back to our financial limitations...
If it were Harang (owed $14 MM) straight up for Sherrill (approx. $4 MM) the reds would shed $10 MM and probably jump on the deal. They might even eat several million, and then perhaps we’d send Sherrill (at $4 MM) and they send Harang and $5 MM (for example). That might balance out the deal.
However, this new article is essentially hinting that once again, we can only acquire Harang if he costs us no more than where we already stand. For the Reds to eat $10 MM and send Harang, that would be an even swap of Harang at $4 MM for Sherrill for $4 MM. From the Reds perspective that makes no sense unless they get a quality prospect because Sherrill isn’t worth Harang straight up. The Dodgers have to either send a decent prospect, or take on more than $4 MM for Harang. Since we obviously can’t spend any money, we are either going to overpay in prospects once again, or the trade won’t happen, which is fine with me.
by BFDC on Dec 22, 2009 8:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Totally Off Topic, But....
….has everybody seen this? If not, it’s good for a laugh:
by CanuckDodger on Dec 22, 2009 8:10 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
That was brilliant. Merry Christmas indeed.
by Eric Stephen on Dec 22, 2009 8:20 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Back on Loney topic. Baseball HQ has this to say about a possible breakout in 2010.
Carbon-copy production masks some skills growth: a few more BBs, ct% trending upward. With minor recovery in h% and PX, there’s a career year lurking: UP: .325, 20 HR
The actual projection is 16/.290/.356/.439
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Dec 22, 2009 8:26 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
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