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This is simply brilliant writing, every TBLA reader should take the time to read one of the best columns by one of the best writers of our generation. When it comes to the Dodgers, I hate myself for loving you.

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I disagree. His talents lie in, among other things, being reasoned and rational, supplying badly needed perspective, and blending in the personal.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 3, 2009 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not sure that your comment has anything

to do with what he wrote yesterday. Is that just a comment on what you think his general style is?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 3, 2009 9:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm saying I've liked his entries the best when he is praising or pointing out the good in something.

I thought that article was kind of rambling.

Kind of like he just walked out of a plane crash.

He was trying and struggling to look for something good or positive.

He didn’t find anything.

It was kind of like a fish out of water.

It was like a eulogy, full of fear, and even a bit depressing.

by Cool Dudes on Dec 3, 2009 9:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Interesting take

we have very different ideas on what that article was about. Might be a generation thing.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 3, 2009 10:01 PM PST up reply actions  

ya

Once in a while people write stuff that I enjoy going back and reading again and again

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 3, 2009 10:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Could well be generational. As a 49-year old, Jon’s article resonated with me in a way that the 20-something me would not have understood.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 4, 2009 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

OTOH mwhite06 down there is a generation younger than me.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 4, 2009 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Mike is deep for his age

comes from being a Clipper fan

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 4, 2009 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

That definitely accelerates the life lessons – excellent point!

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 4, 2009 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 4, 2009 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

brave post here

it can be tough to criticize some of the more iconic figures in the Blue universe, but you summed it up nicely, and unfortunately, I kind of agree with you. Jon really does try to look on the bright side, which is often great. In this case, though, there IS no bright side- none whatsoever- and he is left with a sort of “You Know, When You Really Think About It…” mentality, that just doesn’t seem to fit.

I did agree with what he said about “hating” the McCourts, as that really should be spared for a precious few depraved souls. But I absolutely, positively hate what they have done to the Dodgers. In a weird way, the worst part is that the Dodgers are STILL good enough right now, that too many won’t be able to see the damage that’s been done until it’s too late for this particular Dodger core to really gel into the “something special” we believe they can be (see Phillies, Philadelphia 2007, 08, 09…). What follows, I fear to think about. (see Pirates, Pittsburgh 1993, 94, 95………….)

I can’t speak for anyone else, but nothing short of just having the Dodgers mean a lot less to me can make me feel less disgusted about all of this.

by sarcastro9 on Dec 3, 2009 11:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Given that Phil and Eric started out as frequent commenters on Dodger Thoughts, this blog would not be what it is today without Jon Weisman and Dodger Thoughts. (So did I, but it is Phil and Eric who have set the current tone here.)

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 3, 2009 7:36 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

A couple topics back someone linked to Dave Cameron’s FanGraphs article on the Dodgers no arbitration decision. Commenter Joser wrote something I hadn’t considered, which I thought was an interesting point:

Those situations often end up with the asset being sold so that neither gets it (out of spite, or just because neither can adequately produce the necessary compensation for the other). If that is how it ends up, this decision has also hurt their selling price because the buyer will be getting a team with fewer blue chips down on the farm.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 3, 2009 7:54 PM PST reply actions  

I'm hesitant to comment further about this ...

… but I’ll just say that if you only saw negative things in the piece, either you misread it or I didn’t do my job.

by JonWeisman on Dec 4, 2009 10:09 AM PST reply actions  

Or some readers are so fixated on the negative – and understandably so, given the recent actions of the front office – that the other things aren’t being noticed and/or comprehended.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 4, 2009 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

You did your job

some minds aren’t ready for what you had to say, they haven’t yet the life experience to know those feelings. They are still expecting to be great at everything.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 4, 2009 11:55 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Exactly.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 4, 2009 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree

I believe the article dealt psychologically with the Los Angeles Dodgers and baseball. Quite beautifully.

by StolenMonkey86 on Dec 4, 2009 7:00 PM PST up reply actions  

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71 Ryan Tucker rhp
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