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Winter Meetings - Day 3: Starting Pitching

I doubt we'll get any news from Indianapolis today as big as yesterday's three-team trade between the Yankees, Tigers, and Diamondbacks, but today figures to be about starting pitching:

Edwin Jackson was a key part of the Curtis Granderson deal, and he returns to Arizona, the site of his major league debut six years ago.  Jackson was doused in beer by teammates after beating the Diamondbacks on his 20th birthday, defeating The Big Unit, a man one day shy of being twice Jackson's age.

A positive piece of news for the Dodgers is that it appears one of the final two rotation spots will be filled with in house candidates.  Sometimes a budget crisis can force a team to make the right decisions.

Meanwhile, ex-Dodger Randy Wolf figured to give the Brewers his answer to their three-year, $27 million offer today, per Tom Haudricourt of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.  It looks like his answer was yes, per Ken Rosenthal.

The Dodgers will receive no draft picks as compensation for losing Wolf.

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Fuck the McCourts.

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 9:35 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Word. They ruined everything.

by LAD17 on Dec 9, 2009 8:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Brewers hold the 14th pick

so, had the Dodgers offered arbitration to Wolf, they would have received 2nd round pick from Brewers instead of 1st. Pick likely in the 60-65 range (plus the supplemental in the 45-50 range)

It’s certainly plausible that Wolf may not have received an offer from the Brewers with the scarlet A on his chest, but I still think he would have had declined arb so he could try for a multi-year deal.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 9:41 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

If a team is willing to offer a pitcher 3yrs/$27M, I wouldn’t doubt they think he’s worth their second round pick also.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 9, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports says the Tigers have interest in Juan Pierre, and are “looking for a third team to supply the pitcher L.A. needs.” Odd, since the Tigers have more bad pitching contracts than anyone. The Tigers apparently prefer to unload Carlos Guillen.

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 9:45 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Sweet! Does anyone here want Guillen for 2B?

by silverwidow on Dec 9, 2009 9:46 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No way

I was thinking more like he could move back to SS for the Reds, with Harang or Arroyo coming LA way

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 9:46 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

If Carlos could actually still play 2nd wouldn’t you rather have him as your starting 2nd baseman then Pierre as your fourth outfielder or Harang/Arroyo in the rotation. The man can hit unless you think 2009 was the sign of things to come.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 9, 2009 10:06 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think he can play middle infield anymore, which is why I wanted him to play there for Cincy, not us.

But I would rather have Harang/Arroyo than Guillen anyway

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 10:09 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Or 3rd

when healthy he’s quite valuable. When healthy is the caveat.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 9, 2009 10:09 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

rofl carlos guillen at second base

why no tjust start him off on the 60-day dl

by kensai on Dec 9, 2009 3:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It would be hilarious if we get Mad Max from this.

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 9:46 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Tigers definitely need Pierre in case A.Jax isn’t ready for primetime.

by silverwidow on Dec 9, 2009 9:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Why not just sign Coco Crips?

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 9:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Straight cash homey

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 9:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 9, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The fact that it's the Brewers

Eases my pain a bit on the whole arbitration thing, for a number of reasons.

1. A pick in the 60-65 range would surely have been valuable, but it’s not like, say, the 16th or 17th pick. Correct me if I’m wrong, but it certainly seems that the dropoff in talent is less severe after the first several picks. Is that wrong?

Of course, no matter how marginal the value of an additional second-round pick, the Dodgers are still silly/wrong for turning it down. It’s just not as much of a crime as it might have been.

2. I like the Brewers, so I’ll root for Randy.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Dec 9, 2009 10:01 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Don’t forget the supplemental pick too.

Last week I looked at the top 124 players in 2009, by WAR. 29 of the 124 came between picks 17-75, exactly the picks they eschewed. The big dropoff comes after the second round.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 10:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ditto

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 9, 2009 10:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We picked up Gould with a 2nd round pick. Near elite talent will fall and having extra picks anyway and picking good talent we can sign is only a good thing.

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 10:06 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Also, we picked up Aaron MIller with the supplemental pick. Imagine if we did this crap with Derek Lowe?

We’d might be looking at only picking one of the Miller/Gould/Blake Smith group, and there’s a good chance it would have been Smith.

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 10:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Also, considering both the commissioner’s office and the MLBPA is okay with the Braves basically doing a sign and trade with Soriano, we could have done something similar with Wolf and Hudson if they accepted arbitration.

The Dodgers made two gutless decisions.

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 10:09 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Two separate points here

1. The Dodgers made two gutless decisions. I agree. There was no reason to turn down those picks.

2. Because it’s the Brewers, and as a result the Dodgers are getting a second-round pick and not a first-round — plus of course the supplemental pick — the gutless decision turns out not to be biting the Dodgers quite as hard as it otherwise might have.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Dec 9, 2009 10:17 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

However

we don’t know what Gould will do but we do know that Logans’ supplemental picks have not been very useful.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 9, 2009 10:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Until Aaron Miller

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 9, 2009 10:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Reason being, that was Logan’s first pick last year. It’s different than shit like Mattingly and Adkins because he’d already secured a high ceiling talent earlier in the draft.

by silverwidow on Dec 9, 2009 10:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

so much fail

i mean we could be talking about mike stanton instead of james adkins
ugh

by hirambocachica on Dec 9, 2009 10:27 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Fair enough

…but I guess only if the #30 team in farm investment over the past two years can actually sign that talent.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Dec 9, 2009 10:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Snarky nice

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 9, 2009 10:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We’ll be 29th next year if the Blue Jays forget to sign their 2nd and 3rd round picks again.

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 10:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Except that the Jays get two extra picks for Scutaro

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 10:13 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

Its like finding out you hit yourself as hard as you possibly could in the head with a hammer instead of a sledge hammer.

I will sleep well tonight.

by Cool Dudes on Dec 9, 2009 11:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Heee. ZiPs projects Brad Penny’s top comp this year to be

Dave Mlicki, Brett Tomko, Jason Johnson

http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/oracle/discussion/cardinals_signed_penny/

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 10:26 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

They are not taking into account

the Duncan factor. I wouldn’t be surprised if Penny is very successful in St Louis, he knows he pitching for one last contract because he can only go year to year so long pitching on his past reputation so he might be inclined to listen to whatever it is that Duncan preaches.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 9, 2009 10:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

How can you measure the Duncan factor?

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 10:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You can't

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 9, 2009 10:32 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Penny’s problem is that he stopped striking out pitchers. And he’s not like Joel Pineiro because he allows too many flyballs and HRs (and walks for that matter).

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 10:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

“striking out batters

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 10:32 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It’s funnier before.

by silverwidow on Dec 9, 2009 10:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Just saying

I’m always bagging on agents for not putting their client in the best place to succeed and for Brad Penny I think the Cardinals are the best place for him.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 9, 2009 10:34 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That I agree with

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 10:37 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

In what sense?

the sense he can sleep with woman we only ogle
the sense he makes 7.5 million while still being a lousy pitcher
the sense he has incredible hair and reminds us of it on every pitch
the sense he has a world series ring

Just curious

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 9, 2009 10:36 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Even if Penny listens, will his 10-cent head comprehend any of it?

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 9, 2009 1:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

kengurnick
  
Free agent outfielder Jacque Jones and agent Damon Lapa are meeting with Dodgers assistant general manager De Jon Watson.

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 10:36 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Was he hurt in 2009?

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 10:37 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought he retired

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 9, 2009 10:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Turns out he didn’t make the Reds, than played with Newark in the Indy league.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 10:39 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He's going to setback his HOF

voting if he comes back.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 9, 2009 10:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If by hurt you mean nobody would sign him, sure.

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 10:39 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe they're not meeting about baseball

Maybe Watson and Lapa just like each other and are going out for lunch, and Lapa is bringing Jones along.

Any other scenario doesn’t make any sense.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Dec 9, 2009 10:39 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If we trade Pierre

and then sign Jones instead of letting Paul be the fourth outfielder the good Dodger brain cells that have yet to fry will burst into flames

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 9, 2009 10:41 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on Dec 9, 2009 10:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Jones posted a 19 OPS+ in 2008.

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 10:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Including

a -8 OPS+ for Florida in 44 PA.

Negative 8!

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Dec 9, 2009 10:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice

He can be the new Daryle Ward

by Michael White on Dec 9, 2009 10:45 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I believe the last Newark Bear to play for the Dodgers was Rickey!

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 10:41 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Ill go with “only”

by delias man on Dec 9, 2009 10:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Don’t forget Jim Leyritz (Jeff Fuller took over for him as team driver) and Jose Lima!

Lima came after Rickey, so he’s the last technically.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 10:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

and then nothing

but he did walk 11 times in 84 plate appearances.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 9, 2009 10:49 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oscars

are in Hollywood at the Kodak Theatre. But the Oscars certainly do take up LA’s attention/traffic.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Dec 9, 2009 10:51 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Grammy's then

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 9, 2009 10:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Since Gasol has joined the team

Lakers are 94-22 (.810) in games he plays. Crazy.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 10:56 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Also turns out his brother is damn good

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 9, 2009 11:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If they'd have reflipped Kwame for something useful

and Crittendon hadn’t busted – it would have been a really good deal for them. Its’ not helping that the picks they get from LA are like 29 or 30.

by oshea2002 on Dec 9, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

They saved a lot of money by Kwame's expiring contract

That’s what they got out of it. It was a “basketball decision” like, you know.

by Cool Dudes on Dec 9, 2009 11:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I forgot that they were saving all of that money and cap space

 to sign Lebron James, the “Duke of Memphis?”.

by Cool Dudes on Dec 9, 2009 11:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

does nothing for Memphis

no one is going to sign there, ever.

by oshea2002 on Dec 9, 2009 12:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Karma

This is what the Grizzlies get for leaving behind one of the nicest cities in the world to go play in Memphis…

2009-10 Kings Hockey: Delivering Milk Steaks from the Meat Train at an arena near you!

by DodgerBlueBalls on Dec 9, 2009 12:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Mephis isn’t nice?

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 12:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe nice when taken in relation to the rest of Tennesse. But compared to Vancouver, BC…not so much.

2009-10 Kings Hockey: Delivering Milk Steaks from the Meat Train at an arena near you!

by DodgerBlueBalls on Dec 9, 2009 12:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Think like a baller. What is Vancouver’s equivalent to Beale Street? Nothing.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 9, 2009 1:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

are you kidding? the #1 off-season hobby of NBA players is smoking reefer. BC has all but legalized the weed.

by LA Taco on Dec 9, 2009 1:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Getting tatts has got to be up there. I bet Memphis is better for that than Vancouver.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 9, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

good point :)

by LA Taco on Dec 9, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Memphis practically gave him away.

It's always darkest just before dawn

by Sordid on Dec 9, 2009 11:54 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Phil

Did anyone pick up the tickets?

by Julio Nievas on Dec 9, 2009 12:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

BHSportsGuy, mwhite06, and I joined Phil in watching the Clippers play valiently for three quarters only to be vanquished in the early part of the fourth. Dwight Howard is a FORCE.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 9, 2009 1:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dwight Howard

70% from the field, killed anyone who drove against him (7 blocks), and shot 15 free throws… Yeah, Dwight Howard is a FORCE.

I’m talking about the Laker tickets I think he offered today.

by Julio Nievas on Dec 9, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No one claimed them by noon

so I changed my plans and will be attending the game.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 9, 2009 3:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

From BA - DBacks projected 2013 staff
No. 1 Starter Dan Haren
No. 2 Starter Jarrod Parker
No. 3 Starter Edwin Jackson
No. 4 Starter Brandon Webb
No. 5 Starter Ian Kennedy

Edwin better than Webb in the future – who knew??

by silverwidow on Dec 9, 2009 11:31 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Projecting a guy with TJ surgery to actually pitch seems premature.

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 11:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Olney thinks the Dodgers could have signed Wolf for 2 years/14 million

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 11:38 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I honestly don’t think he’d have accepted that.

by silverwidow on Dec 9, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’d expect he would have taken a discount to stay on the west coast, but not ~15mm.

by uclatroy on Dec 9, 2009 11:46 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Seems unlikely

It's always darkest just before dawn

by Sordid on Dec 9, 2009 11:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Kevin Correia to be non-tendered Saturday, per Jery Crasnick.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 11:41 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

What would you offer him?

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Dec 9, 2009 11:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No, he has value. But for some reason Correia is on my shit list.

Maybe its because its that game where he went 6 or 7 innings on short rest, while the freaking Padres blew out Kershaw before 4 innings at Dodgers Stadium in early June.

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 11:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was at that game

Kershaw went 1.1 innings I believe :/

by Ivdown on Dec 9, 2009 1:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Something like $2-3m with a ton of incentives. And that probably won’t sign him.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 11:50 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Boo

from Dylan Hernandez:

Dodgers: Wolf’s agent offered Colletti one last chance to sign his client this morning
Of Wolf’s asking price, Colletti said, "It wasn’t something we were comfortable doing
Colletti said he has no regrets about not offering Randy Wolf arbitration

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 11:59 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

and on 2B
Ronnie Belliard, Craig Counsell, Juan Uribe and Jamey Carroll are among the 2B possibilities for the Dodgers

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 12:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Another sign of how bad things are...

Ronnie Belliard is the best of 4 players we are looking at for what is probably a starting spot.

by CarolinaDodger on Dec 9, 2009 12:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If those really are the candidates for the starting 2B

then I reconsider my opinion and join the blake dewitt marching and chowder society.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Dec 9, 2009 12:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Me too

I still contend 2B will be a combo of Belliard & DeWitt. Not a straight platoon, but they will share time.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe Colletti really has no regrets about offering Wolf arbitration. Not like he cares about the draft that much.

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 12:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not offering arbitration was wrong

but Colletti is correct in not offering Wolf a 3 year deal. I would be hesitant to even offer a two year deal to him.

by Ian Capilouto on Dec 9, 2009 12:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It’s business; one should learn from the past, but there is no point in having regrets.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 9, 2009 1:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

jaysonst
  
Brewers keep reeling them in. LaTroy Hawkins: 2 years, $7.5 million, pending a physical

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 12:02 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Screamin’ Line Drive Hawkins must have put a spell on the Brewers because they’re his.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 9, 2009 4:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

jaysonst
  
Teams pursuing Joel Pineiro being told he’s the No. 2 starter on market behind Lackey, so price tag is north of Randy Wolf (i.e., $10M/year)

No wonder the Brewers moved so fast on Wolf.

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 12:03 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Joel Pineiro is Spanish for Kyle Lohse

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 12:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Lohse did jump on a Cardinals extension for 4 years/40 plus million from the Cards before the market tanked.

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 12:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Man, I love the comments from this poll. Just the kind of quality you can’t get from Dodger Thoughts, True Blue LA. or anywhere else. Okay, maybe Dodgers.com

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2009/12/mondays-poll-should-the-dodgers-trade-juan-pierre/comments/page/2/#comments

We should keep Juan Pierre most definitely. He works hard, has great heart, and knows how to be a team player. We should get rid of Manny – either trade him or bench him or just plain send him home even if we have to keep paying him. He’s not a true blue Dodger like Juan. Besides, I think it sends a horrible message to young people to get rid of the good guy while the drug using cheater who made a mockery of our town and our team gets to keep his job. It’s worth eating the rest of Manny’s salary to run him out of town on a rail if you ask me!

Posted by: Melanie | December 07, 2009 at 06:58 PM

Ramirez will break down or worse, will never again be the player he was when he was juicing. Pierre has been as-advertised, modest gifts, total effort, complete professional. I give Manny two months, .235, 1 homer, no defense. Joe better hope, come June, when he looks down that bench, he sees Juan’s focused, knowing eyes looking back at him.

Posted by: MichaelRyerson | December 07, 2009 at 07:05 PM

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 12:19 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I just love the fact that most arguments for JP boil down to his intangibles… like Manny isn’t charismatic as hell and also has a boat load of intangibles as well.

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 12:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

These are the people giving Juan the standing ovations all season at DS I was telling you about! Now I know their names.

by delias man on Dec 9, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I almost want to change the TBLA tagline to “modest gifts, total effort”

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 12:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

focused, knowing eyes.

My friend has a theory that old-timers love Juan Pierre the best, because he just looks like a ballplayer, darnit!

by LA Taco on Dec 9, 2009 12:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Watch that shit…i’m close to being an old timer myself. And I think Pierre sucks.

by KellyStephen on Dec 9, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

haha I meant to say, of people who love Pierre, Old-timers love him the most.

by LA Taco on Dec 9, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

hahah

“Juan’s focused, knowing eyes looking” I definitely laughed out loud

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on Dec 9, 2009 10:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Boras is saying the Millwood deal isn’t done. Whatever that means.

by oshea2002 on Dec 9, 2009 12:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

There was a report of him getting traded to the Orioles earlier today

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 12:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I mean I wonder if Boras is inferring it’s going to fall though

by oshea2002 on Dec 9, 2009 12:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

1. I don’t really care about the Tiger mess. The guy can sleep with who he likes. Whatever.

2. I am surprised at how quickly a guy who was in control of his entire life has seen it all unravel.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Dec 9, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Rick Reilly had some good advice for him

1. Go on Oprah
2. Fire everyone who is seen as an enabler – including agent, manager, caddy, etc.
3. Take at least 6 months off

by oshea2002 on Dec 9, 2009 12:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I support that.

One of the few spots where he’d be replacing someone with a worse reputation than him.

by oshea2002 on Dec 9, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

+ ∞

Ladies & Gents, this is the undisputed TBLA comment of the month!!!!

2009-10 Kings Hockey: Delivering Milk Steaks from the Meat Train at an arena near you!

by DodgerBlueBalls on Dec 9, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And think of the tail he’d bring into the stands on a Friday night!

by KellyStephen on Dec 9, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Every night would be porn star night instead of just when the Kardashians are there.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 9, 2009 3:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

wow incredible idea

but is there a divorce on his horizon as well? My heart couldnt take it

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on Dec 9, 2009 10:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

my advice is the opposite

ditch the phony marriage and party down. unleash the real tiger. Fuck gatorade, do a deal with Grey Goose instead.

the only thing wrong with his life is the fake image. If he wants to get laid a lot with freaky-deeky chicks, that’s his perogative.

by LA Taco on Dec 9, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

wouldn't he

lose a lot of money in endorsements that come his way due to his (previously) squeaky clean image?

Maybe that money is already gone and he’s got nothin’ left to lose.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Dec 9, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nah, his endorsement deals were all built on his success. Some people say he lost the women permanently, but if he completes his ‘heel’ turn, the women would just say he’s a sexy beast like Juan Pierre is.

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 12:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think he’s hurting for money. If he continues to be the world’s best golfer, the endorsements will come. They may be slightly different firms but they will come.

by LA Taco on Dec 9, 2009 12:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Tiger's image was one of eliteness, not really family values / clean

Tag watches, Cadillac, Gatorade, Gillette, etc.

I’m not sure if he gets that back, but I don’t think he’s gone for the Brett Favre / Peyton Manning thing. Basically – he’s Derek Jeter except he’s married.

by oshea2002 on Dec 9, 2009 12:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Now he’s A-Rod without the centaur pic of himself.

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 12:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Tiger, Tiger, burning bright.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Dec 9, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Gatorade & Gilette = “Eliteness”????

by KellyStephen on Dec 9, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The “Best a Man can Get”

by oshea2002 on Dec 9, 2009 1:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on Dec 9, 2009 10:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Accenture, Netjets and TAG Heuer = “Main Street, USA”????

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by DodgerBlueBalls on Dec 9, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

no but Buick does

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on Dec 9, 2009 10:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't get the going on Oprah part

It's always darkest just before dawn

by Sordid on Dec 9, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Because she’s black see?

But no really. In Tiger’s case he needs to seek forgiveness from ‘women’ and going to Oprah who have a great influence on her viewers can go a long way towards that.

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Are golf and the other products Tiger endorse(s/ed) targeted primarily at men or women. The former by a wide margin I think.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 9, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I just want her to scream TIIIIGGGEERRRRRR WOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDSSSSSS

by delias man on Dec 9, 2009 1:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

James Carville’s advice – more credible than Rick Reilly on this, eh? – was to make one statement and shut up; don’t go on Oprah etc. He said Tiger has already played it perfectly.

This is roughly the same as what Letterman did.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 9, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Agree

There is no positive spin on this.

Shut-up, get the hell out of Dodge, and play golf.

by Cool Dudes on Dec 9, 2009 5:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

JonathanMayoB3
  
News on the #indians prospects. Carlos Santana has hamate surgery; Adam Miller has setback, needed additional procedure

Now I will forever imagine Carlos Santana eating ham.

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 12:45 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

JeffFletcherAOL
  
One of the highlights of Boras press conf: The Yankees need Damon more now since Granderson is better down in the linup. Uh, yeah.

Jesus Christ Boras. There’s no need to put down other players.

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 12:57 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

See? Delusional. I told you. ; )

by prosellis on Dec 9, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

At least he hasnt compared Damon to a hall of fame player

At least he has not compared Damon to a hall of fame player like he did last year comparing oliver perez to sandy koufax

It's always darkest just before dawn

by Sordid on Dec 9, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ben Sheets’ agent Casey Close met with the Rangers yesterday, and according to ESPN’s Richard Durrett, the pitcher “is apparently looking for money similar to what he made his last season in the majors — 2008, which was $12 million.” Sheets figures to be popular on the free agent market, but we’ll have to see what kind of guarantee he requires after missing all of 2009.

Guess we can pretty much rule the Dodgers out for Sheets. I still have some delusional hope we could sign Bedard though.

by BFDC on Dec 9, 2009 1:08 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Abandon hope all ye who enter TrueBlue LA

It's always darkest just before dawn

by Sordid on Dec 9, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Will anyone actually consider that?

Best scenario is he holds that line until early February and the Dodgers can pull a last minute deal for one year at about half that amount.

by prosellis on Dec 9, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Let's face it

In our little world, the McCourts are a big deal but outside Los Angeles (and baseball), its barely a blip of a story.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 9, 2009 1:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

And even inside Los Angeles

It might be a BLIP but not much more.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 9, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I mentioned the Dodger divorce to a friend of mine who is a big Dodgers fan (during the season, not so much the off-season) and he literally had not heard the news yet. This was 2 weeks ago.

by LA Taco on Dec 9, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I slightly disagree. I was listening to Toronto’s FAN590 radio today, and the Jays’ reporter spoke at length to how you can count out the Dodgers to be a trading partner for Halladay solely because of the McCourt divorce.

The baseball world is taking notice…

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by DodgerBlueBalls on Dec 9, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought I said the baseball world will notice

But in the extreme case, this is not a Tiger Woods situation

by bhsportsguy on Dec 9, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Gotcha. I misunderstood…

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by DodgerBlueBalls on Dec 9, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Who else had the same surgery as Carlos Santana

6 years ago.

James Loney. The concern then and now, how will that affect the player’s power, generally it is still understood that it takes a full year of recovery.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 9, 2009 1:19 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

interesting, nice catch. Did you remember that or did it ring a bell and you looked it up? I remember he had hand surgery which was worrying because he was such a high pick but my memory may be faulty. Didn’t he also have another injury around the same time or just after/before?

by LA Taco on Dec 9, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Except for

a complete 1/2 season in the major leagues in 2006 at the tender age of 22. But who counts major league at bats anyway.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 9, 2009 3:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And

a 1/2 season in the majors in 2009 – the road half: .309 / .387 / .475 / .862

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 9, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The question of Loney's power

Is a long, long road. James Loney Crystal Ball from 2007:

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2007/2/14/162326/086

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Dec 9, 2009 4:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Millwood is now an Oriole

for Chris Ray (per Jon Heyman)

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 1:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Man, this “Z” button is frickin amazing. No more scrolling!

by silverwidow on Dec 9, 2009 1:35 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Seriously… I wish all blogs functioned like this.

by BFDC on Dec 9, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Instead of scrolling up and down this page, press Z and it will take you to the newest comment and mark it as read.

by silverwidow on Dec 9, 2009 1:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, wow that is pretty cool.

A big need in game threads, awesome thanks for the tip!

by Julio Nievas on Dec 9, 2009 1:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I mean with the Z button scrolling to new comments and being able to reply to specific comments without having to say something like “@ Julio Nievas” with every reply.

by BFDC on Dec 9, 2009 1:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

wow props to navigating the game threads earlier in the season with it

also control A unmarks every comment in the thread, but i think its only there for ocd people like me that unmark all the comments after i finish reading a thread : )

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on Dec 9, 2009 10:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Did you not know about this before? I’ve been using this for 5 months, lol.

by Ivdown on Dec 9, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nope. But it’s convenient~!

by silverwidow on Dec 9, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Lol

It is VERY helpful.

by Ivdown on Dec 9, 2009 1:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Helllo?

Hah hah. You guys are just now noticing that? It tells you about the z command every time a new comment alert pops up on the right. Heh. Oh well, I shall shame you no further. ;-)

z!

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by underdog on Dec 9, 2009 3:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Lindstrom to Astros is almost done, according to multiple tweets. No idea who Houston is sending to Florida.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 1:55 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Probably JR Towles

by silverwidow on Dec 9, 2009 1:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

for a second there...

i really thought that said Lindblom!

and im like WTF

by matthewmafa on Dec 9, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Heh

Part of the Uggla deal :)

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 1:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ben Sheets doesn't sound so crazy after all

Rich Harden to the Marinters. Craig Calcaterra:

Word is: Rich Harden deal: Is done @ $7.5 guaranteed for 1 + a club option at $11.5

Jesus.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 2:11 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I’d rather have Rich Harden for $7.5 MM than Brad Penny.

by BFDC on Dec 9, 2009 2:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I guess they sold a lot of Wii last year.

by delias man on Dec 9, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Recession Schmcession

It's always darkest just before dawn

by Sordid on Dec 9, 2009 2:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Mario and Luigi are recession proof.

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by DodgerBlueBalls on Dec 9, 2009 2:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes. I believe Tom Hicks has been trying to sell the Rangers, the Dallas Stars, and Liverpool F.C. for quite sometime now…

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by DodgerBlueBalls on Dec 9, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But wait! ESPN Radio’s Shannon Drayer says the Mariners are close on Harden.

by BFDC on Dec 9, 2009 2:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Two notes from Dylan Hernandez that caught my eye

from LA Times:

-Utilityman Juan Castro left the Dodgers and signed with the Phillies because the Dodgers offered him only a minor-league contract, according to multiple sources.
-Some of the Dodgers’ young relievers are drawing the interest of other teams. According to a source, the Mets have inquired about Ronald Belisario and Cory Wade

I wonder what we could get for Wade.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 2:22 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

If it's the Mets

You can get the catcher of your choice. They’ve cornered the market!

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Dec 9, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Dodgers have no incentive to trade either pitcher.

by delias man on Dec 9, 2009 2:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd move Wade.

Fill in some of the minor league depth that’s been thinned out in the last two years of trades.

by Michael White on Dec 9, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That’s a pretty random assortment of relievers. One is a hard throwing right handers that can get anyone out. The other is the right handed version of George Sherrill.

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If we trade Belisario, it better be for a legit, every week starter.

by silverwidow on Dec 9, 2009 2:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m beginning to think we won’t be able to sign any of the high risk/reward types Harden, Sheets, or Bedard.

Colletti seems to be employing the proper strategy given his constraints — wait out the market and some cheap starter will be there, or just use Pierre as the means to get an expensive type in a contract swap.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 2:26 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

What cheap starter will be out there? I mean seriously, Braden Looper?

by BFDC on Dec 9, 2009 2:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Padilla, Garland maybe?

by LA Taco on Dec 9, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Those two are becoming more and more attractive by the minute! :)

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This is the “War Games” moment when someone needs to step in and say “the best move is not to play” as the Dodger front office erupts in applause.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

lol. If we aren’t getting someone with serious upside, and it looks like we won’t be, I have to agree. I was really thinking we might get Bedard as we were linked to him in the past, but now I bet it will be the Yankees or Red Sox at these prices.

by LA Taco on Dec 9, 2009 2:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I hear ya…it’s late…i’ve had way too much to drink…the options around the bar are thinning out…hey, How you doin???

by KellyStephen on Dec 9, 2009 2:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So you’re saying it will hurt when I pee after watching Garland start for the 2010 Dodgers?

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 2:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

2010 Dodgers?

It hurt in 09 for me.

by Ivdown on Dec 9, 2009 2:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I had no problems with Garland’s six Dodger starts in Aught Nine

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 2:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

After the thought, nope, but I had no confidence in him at the start of any game.

by Ivdown on Dec 9, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree, I’m happy with Garland at this point. I’d prefer Blanton but guys are getting plucked left and right and I’m nervous what the bargain bin holds when a move is finally made. Caddy Shack II comes to mind LOL.

by VeroJoe on Dec 9, 2009 6:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, but they have shots for that now. It’s called tequila.

Plus, just remember: it will hurt worse when you pee if Bills doesn’t get a start in the playoffs again.

by KellyStephen on Dec 9, 2009 2:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The problem with that is that there is no Wolf at the end of the tunnel. Its going to be Suppan, or Looper or somebody.

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 2:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It won’t be pretty

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My guesses for who Ned signs if we don't get a starter via trade

I’m not sure who is more of a Ned guy, but I would guess one of:

Jon Garland
Braden Looper
Vicente Padilla
Randy Johnson

Then I guess Ned might offer NRI invites (although not sure they would accept or get better offers)

Mark Mulder
Noah Lowry
Mike Hampton
Kip Wells
Kris Benson

by BFDC on Dec 9, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds about right, although I think Unit will retire (and I don’t think the Dodgers would sign him)

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 2:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This list makes me so incredibly sad.

Screw Garland, Looper, Padilla, and RJ. Just do what we did last year and take minor league contracts on the lower guys in your post, have a couple work out maybe.

Elbert and Mcdonald for the 4 and 5 spots!!!

by Ivdown on Dec 9, 2009 2:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If it’s those Free agents or no free agents I’ll take no free agents.

It's always darkest just before dawn

by Sordid on Dec 9, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

To clarify, that is what I think Ned will do. Not what I would like to see.

At this point I’m basically hoping for a Pierre trade for something useful. Otherwise sign Bedard, but as everyone has pointed out, its not looking likely.

by BFDC on Dec 9, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I would love to see us sign Bedard

on a deal for something like 5 mill with 4 mill in incentives (like 175 innings, better than 3.50 ERA or 1.15 whip, whatever).

Sadly that would never happen.

by Ivdown on Dec 9, 2009 2:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I really don’t see Garland being a real option. He should get decent money for his dependability, and the Dodgers can’t possibly think too highly of him with the way he was used come playoff time.

by uclatroy on Dec 9, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Man, that’s a shitty list.

Only interesting one is Kris Benson, who brings Anna with him. I wonder if she knows new Dodger owner Tiger Woods?

by KellyStephen on Dec 9, 2009 2:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I kind of figured they would get that actually, but I was (and am still) hoping that perhaps Bedard or Duchsherer will be around for closer to $5 MM

by BFDC on Dec 9, 2009 2:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought they’d be getting $7.5 million with all the incentives.

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 2:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

damn the cardinals...

now that the set the market price for pitchers at 7.5 mill… everyone is going to get more then that.. they overpayed for penny and now everyone has to pay a lot for starting pitching

by matthewmafa on Dec 9, 2009 2:35 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

it didn’t quite work out that way last year (some of the early signings were the highest prices) but we’ll see.

by LA Taco on Dec 9, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

so the rangers gave away kevin milwood for almost nothing

so they can get harden..

if the orioles werent going to pay 9 mil of milwoods salary next year.. the rangers could not have gotten harden correct?

by matthewmafa on Dec 9, 2009 2:38 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Sounds about right.

by BFDC on Dec 9, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

How the hell would Wolf earn $15 million in arbitration. $10 million maybe, BUT 15 MILLION?

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 2:59 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

There apparently was fear that since Derek Lowe signed for $15m per that was a comp for Wolf. I think a more reasonable ceiling was $12 million

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 3:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

How much would Pujols get in arbitration? 40 million?!?!?

by silverwidow on Dec 9, 2009 3:01 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

He would get his own currency.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It’s all about the Alberts!

by KellyStephen on Dec 9, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Is that similar to the Dodger dollars that Frank is going to pay guys with next year?

by BFDC on Dec 9, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dodger Bucks

Which are currently worth 1/100 of a dollar.

by Ivdown on Dec 9, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And deferred over 5 years.

by BFDC on Dec 9, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No, the comp would be A-Rod

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 3:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But Pujols>Arod by a good margin now

I think that would come into play. It’s just a damn good thing Pujols will likely never go to arbitration again in his peak, he would bankrupt teams.

by Ivdown on Dec 9, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

If Pujols went to arbitration this season, he would probably be $35m, or more. A-Rod is making $32m in 2010, and that’s an easy case for Pujols to make.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 3:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Colletti on Billingsley

per Diamond Leung:

"It’s tough to replace a Chad Billingsley. I know people are disappointed with what transpired the last two-plus months of the season. Prior to that, you could probably compare him to a lot of the upper echelon starting pitching in the game who’s 26, 27 years old and younger. What we need to do is we don’t need to subtract as much as we need to add. He struggled. We’ll see what he learns from the struggle because everybody loses. It’s what you learn when you lose. If I’m going to trade a good young pitcher, we’d have to get two pretty good starters back, which people just don’t have to trade. I’m confident in Chad that he can come back. I’ve talked to him a handful of times this winter…

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 3:07 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

YES. Yes yes yes yes yes.

I hope all the idiots stfu about trading Bills or that he doesn’t have the mental make up to be an ace. Those people drive me insane.

by Ivdown on Dec 9, 2009 3:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Fess up…you got wood when you read that. More wood when you posted it.

by KellyStephen on Dec 9, 2009 3:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Problem is that it was way too easy for opposing batters to put good wood on the ball when Bills pitched in last season’s second half.

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by DodgerBlueBalls on Dec 9, 2009 3:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

“The two good starters I was talking about?” It was Chad Gudin, and Will Aceves! The Yankees assured me that they can start!"

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 3:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Fair and rational assessment

by VeroJoe on Dec 9, 2009 6:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Some one wrote this about Toronto/LA deal

And said the Dodgers have Kershaw to deal. I immediately wished I had not taken the time to click that link.

by bhsportsguy on Dec 9, 2009 3:12 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I want Vernon Wells. We can trade Billingsley/Kemp/Ethier/Kershaw for Wells. If we’re going to crash and burn lets just do it.

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

that wouldn't get it done

Need to throw in a lot more youngsters to make it even. Jonathan Broxton, Ethan and Russell Martin, Withrow, Eovaldi or whatever his name is, and Dee Gordon, for Billingsley, Kemp, Ethier, and Kershaw, for Vernon Wells.

And the Dodgers send money on the deal.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Dec 9, 2009 3:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Plus, using Wilson Markle’s magic process of Colorization we will offer to go back and change Wayne Gretzky’s Television highlight reels so that it will look like Wayne spent 1988 through 1996 playing for the Toronto Maple Leafs and not the Kings…

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by DodgerBlueBalls on Dec 9, 2009 3:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What do you guys post about in here?

Nothing happens with the Dodgers. :o

by kensai on Dec 9, 2009 3:19 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Who’s gonna take on Kim Ng this February? I say Ethier.

by silverwidow on Dec 9, 2009 3:20 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Prediction

0 arb hearings for Dodgers. Eight come to terms; Repko gone

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 3:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

well, besides Ethier

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 3:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m stupid today. Ethier and Dodgers settled last season

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 3:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Beimel was in 2007

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 3:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

NewbergReport
  
Rangers said to be working on Max Ramirez for Mike Lowell deal: http://bit.ly/8pbWYE

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 3:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

He’s the $12 million version of Casey Blake.

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 3:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Deal Mike Lowell

Then: Buchholz, Kelly, Westmoreland, and Anderson for Adrian Gonzalez and Kevin Kouzmanoff!

I’m insane.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Dec 9, 2009 3:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Papi to the bench, Youkilis to DH?

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Turn around and deal Kouzmanoff

Or something.

I don’t know.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Dec 9, 2009 3:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But dude! 2007!

Anyway, if this happens, then its almost a given that Beltre signs with the Red Sox.

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 3:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

rofl
wait, what?
I SWEAR IF YOU ARE TROLLING ME
I SEE NOTHING ABOUT IT
I’M CUMMING

:o

by kensai on Dec 9, 2009 3:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Lindstrom deal official

For those of you intently following the future of Matt Lindstrom (as Eric reported above):

Trade official, RHP Matt Lindstrom for RHP Robert Bono and SS Luis Bryan.
http://twitter.com/JoeFrisaro

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by underdog on Dec 9, 2009 3:40 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Is that pronounced BO-no, like Sonny, or BAH-no, like the U2 front man? Amateur joke writers demand to know.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 9, 2009 4:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m still disappointed that Hwy 111, the “Sonny Bono Memorial Freeway” (between the 10 and Racquet Club Dr in Palm Springs), doesn’t have a tree smack dab in the middle of it.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 4:27 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

LOL

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 9, 2009 4:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Stults not forgotten

per Gurnick:

Colletti said he’s comfortable holding the last rotation spot for a Spring Training competition involving James McDonald, Scott Elbert, Josh Lindblom, Charlie Haeger and Ramon Troncoso. Colletti added left-hander Eric Stults to that group he originally listed on Tuesday

Also, lots of confidence in DeWitt as the starting 2B expressed.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 3:41 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

You think he’ll take the Billingsley route starting in 2011? Or will he go straight to the rotation come April of 2011?

by VeroJoe on Dec 9, 2009 6:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Kershaw being the exception rather than the rule. It’s exciting to think of the young talent on the way. If everyone panned out that are expected to succeed we wouldn’t have enough spots.

by VeroJoe on Dec 9, 2009 7:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We’ll see next year or two

by Julio Nievas on Dec 9, 2009 7:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Start him off in AA and let him get to AAA if he does well by around late June or early July. Then we can have him fight for a rotation spot in 2011 when Kuroda is gone.

by Ivdown on Dec 9, 2009 3:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's a demotion

He was a lock for the #4 starter Tuesday.

by Cool Dudes on Dec 9, 2009 5:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Rectus? Damn Near Killed Us

From Jorge Arangure (ESPN):

RT @ACardenas13: #Diamondbacks OF Gerardo Parra suffered partial tear of the rectus muscle in his left thigh in the Venezuelan Winter League

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 3:43 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

DBacks fan reaction: You gotta be shittin’ me.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 9, 2009 4:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Catching market on fire!

Per Brewers beat writer Tom Haudricourt:

Kansas City Star’s Bob Dutton reports that former Brewers catcher Jason Kendall has been given two-year offer by Royals.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 3:50 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

given is correct

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 3:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

To start?

Jeepers creepers.

I’m not sure that Jason Kendall is the worst every day player in MLB, but he’s gotta be close, no?

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Dec 9, 2009 3:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yuniseki Bentencourt. Guess who employs him.

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 3:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

Forgot about Betancourt. Good lord, the Royals have a nucleus of good players, but it seems like they have no idea of how to find role players.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Dec 9, 2009 3:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm guessing they are interested in Mark Hendrickson

Or going down the road with Ponson again.

by Ivdown on Dec 9, 2009 3:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

How much different

was an old Kendall compared to a young Martin in 2009?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 9, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Old Kendall: .241/.331/.305 (72 OPS+) in 526 AB for $5 million

Young Martin: .250/.352/.329 (86 OPS+) in 588 AB for $3.9 million

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Dec 9, 2009 4:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Kendall was a lot worse in 2007

when he hit .242/.301/.309 over 514 PA split between Oakland and Chicago… and got paid $13 million for his trouble.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Dec 9, 2009 4:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dang with all the comments I thought something had happened

and I’ll admit I had no idea about the Z key. Not sure I’d use it, I need the unread color to know what I’ve missed and you people are so brilliant I’d hate to miss even one comment.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 9, 2009 4:00 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Z only goes comment to comment. So you don’t miss anything.

It’s the main drawback of the mobile site (that, and not being able to easily scroll to the bottom).

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 4:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah that does drive me crazy. I work 11 hours a day so TBLA gets me through, but the scrolling is a biotch

by VeroJoe on Dec 9, 2009 6:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

WIth Kendall

still getting offers, it appears that Martin should be employed for my lifetime. No wonder LaDuca wants to make a comeback.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 9, 2009 4:02 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Shift + A

unmarks all the comments..

z

by matthewmafa on Dec 9, 2009 4:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Why would I want to unmark comments?

then I wouldn’t know what I haven’t read or am I missing something?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 9, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I do it, once I've read all the comments

It’s if you are not using the z button.

by Michael White on Dec 9, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You press z to go to a new comment, if there is one. Then if you press z again, it will unmark that comment and take you to the next new comment, if there is one.

I found z out about a month or so ago, and since then I have basically made this the only Dodgers blog I go to. That’s how much I love z.

by uclatroy on Dec 9, 2009 4:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks everyone

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 9, 2009 4:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

you and Eric owe your success to the Z button : )

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on Dec 9, 2009 11:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

When I first opened this topic there were about 50 comments, all new of course. I immediately did shift-a to make them all white, knowing that I had read none of them. That way I knew the yellow ones were the ones that popped up since I opened the topic. Then I read the white comments and used “z” to read the new comments; best way I know to catch up. The keyboard shortcuts are great here.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 9, 2009 4:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Even with hugely commented topics

I still press Z for every one, because I’ve got that kinda time .

lol

by Ivdown on Dec 9, 2009 4:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I do too

because I’ve got that kinda obsession.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 9, 2009 5:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

"I said, ‘J.P, what would you want me to do?.’ He said, ‘Well, if you can find me a place to play a lot more, I’m open to it. But you know what? If I’m here, I understand the situation. I hope to play every day. I want to play as much as I can. But whatever you decide to do is cool with me…’

"If we can find the right fit for him, we’ll do it. We need pitching. If we can figure out a way to move him for a starting pitcher – even a back-of-the-rotation guy – we’ll be open-minded to doing that."

http://diamondleung.tumblr.com/post/276724966/colletti-wants-a-starting-pitcher-for-pierre

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 4:05 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

So with Harden going to the Rangers if that happens, I’d have to assume that Sheets is off the table for the Rangers unless they decide to employ my strategy of signing 3 of the fragile A pitchers in hopes of cobbling 40 starts from the three of them.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 9, 2009 4:10 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I’m sure Frank could lend them some Dodger Bucks

by BFDC on Dec 9, 2009 4:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

With 500 % interest, of course.

by Ivdown on Dec 9, 2009 4:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This is right at the top of the comments section of every thread

but in case anyone missed it:

Press C to tab to new comments
Shift-C to tab backwards
X to mark as read
Shift-A to mark all read.
Z will simultaneously mark and tab forward
R will reply to the comment that has focus

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 4:24 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I would have thought everyone knew about this

Because as long as I’ve been posting here that little box pops up with every new comment in a thread.

by Ivdown on Dec 9, 2009 4:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Silly me

I’ve never ever read those little helps, I just click on the person’s name before it fades away.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 9, 2009 4:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I have visions of you furiously trying to click names for comments much like Lucy Ricardo on the assembly line.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 4:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No

but I did my fair share of scrolling that will now be retired.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 9, 2009 4:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I had no idea you could click the names, haha

I just thought they were there to show you that someone posted, not a link to the actual spot where the post was.

It’s definitely a learning day.

by Ivdown on Dec 9, 2009 4:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You mean this thing:)
Display: Auto-refresh?

Press C to tab to new comments, Shift-C to tab backwards, X to mark as read, and Shift-A to mark all read.
The best: Z will simultaneously mark and tab forward, and R will reply to the comment that has focus.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 9, 2009 4:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ha

I don’t read instructions either. I’m going to slink away now. Not sure when I’ll be back.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 9, 2009 4:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

oh my goodness I didnt know about R

thats awesome

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on Dec 9, 2009 11:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Z is 100 million times awesome

you have no idea how stupid I feel at the moment

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Dec 9, 2009 4:29 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

silverwidow = whistleblower of Z

by silverwidow on Dec 9, 2009 4:33 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

You are our Erin Brockovich :)

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 4:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He has large boobs?

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 9, 2009 4:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

In another window

I’m furiously pressing Z on Dodger Thoughts and getting very annoyed that it’s not working.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Dec 9, 2009 4:34 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

If we ever see a comment over there like this
zzzzzzzzzzzI think the Dodgers should have offered arbitration to Randy Wolf

…we won’t think less of you :)

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 4:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

More like

I think we all need to calm down.

Posted by: Jon Weisman | December 09, 2009 03:42 PM

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Posted by: Humma Kavula | December 09, 2009 03:43 PM

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Dec 9, 2009 4:37 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Nah

Just making a joke. See, “zzzzzzzzzzzzzz” makes it look like I’m snor…… oh, never mind.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Dec 9, 2009 4:45 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yes

I got it. (And like it.)

by berkowit28 on Dec 9, 2009 8:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

As Peter Gammons moves from ESPN to MLB Network

Is that the classic situation of dropping the average baseball IQ in both places?

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 9, 2009 5:03 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Anyone watch 'Jersey Shore'?

Jesus Christ was the the topic of my day today, is it that good?

by Julio Nievas on Dec 9, 2009 5:14 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I had to share this qoute today from a Giants fan

“Hey, there, true-blues. I’m a Giants fan—-been one since ‘51, when we’d go to Ebbets Field and the Polo Grounds for our rivalries. Thought I’d just take apeek in here and see what your team is up to, since I don’t get much input from the papers or boobtube. anyway, after reading a number of your recent posts on this board i got the strangest feeling i was back reading posts from our disgruntled SF fans. Kinda funny how much alike we all sound. One observation: go easy on Coletti—-you stole a jewel from our tarnished crown in Coletti. I’d take him over our Sabean any day of the week. If anyone can fill your team’s needs with the right mix of players, it’s Coletti! Every time he made an acquisition last year we SF faithful would moan and groan, “Why didn’t Sabean get that guy?” Sorry to hear about the divorce; but be of strong hearts—-you’ll most likely kick our SF posteriors once again. Good luck in 2010!"

I was really caught off guard from this guy’s sincerity and good sportsmanship. I can’t ever imagine saying something positive to or about the Giants. I own a picture from “The shot heard round the world” addressed to my Dad (same name as me), signed by Bobby Thompson himself but I refuse to put it up on the wall in my house. It’s been collecting dust forever.

by VeroJoe on Dec 9, 2009 6:30 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

he most not be a regular over at MCC ; )

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on Dec 9, 2009 11:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Halladay to Angels?

They’ve offered Saunders, Aybar and top OF prospect Peter Bourjos. I’d go ahead and take it were I the Jays.

by silverwidow on Dec 9, 2009 6:36 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I would rather have Wood instead of Saunders.

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 6:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

8:10pm: The Giants have Scott Podsednik on their radar, Baggarly reports. He’s apparently one of the center fielders the club is considering.

This move would push Aaron Rowand to RF

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 6:38 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Rowand still has great range according to metrics doesn’t he? I’m surprised they would move him over for Posednik, it’s almost like admitting failure on their investment in Rowand. We all know it but it’s not something that they are going to come out and say

by VeroJoe on Dec 9, 2009 6:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Swings slightly above average, to below average. He’s probably middle of the pack.

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 6:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree, but he’s certainly paid in in the top 25%

by VeroJoe on Dec 9, 2009 6:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Wasn’t Podsednik bad enough in CF that he was moved to LF, partly because he’s another noodle-arm? I don’t see him helping with their offensive anemia. Go for it Sabean!

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 9, 2009 7:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

AFL announces All Prospect Team

“Also on the All-Prospect Team was another AFL award winner, Los Angeles Dodgers first-base prospect Russ Mitchell, who was honored with the Dernell Stenson Award for character and leadership. Mitchell was one of two first basemen on the team after hitting .319 with 25 RBIs.”

by VeroJoe on Dec 9, 2009 6:57 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Russ Mitchell

Is it me or has this guy gotten a lot of love this year? I know he’s older but I still hear the word “prospect” to describe him, yet he makes no one’s list. Does anyone have any thoughts about him, his ceiling, or what type of realistic impact could he have at the Major League level?

by VeroJoe on Dec 9, 2009 6:59 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I can tell you one thing

No one around here will call him a “prospect”.

by Julio Nievas on Dec 9, 2009 7:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Is he ever going to be anything at all for us? He raked in the AFL, where’s he on our radar?

by VeroJoe on Dec 9, 2009 7:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He’s pretty old, in relative terms, is a low OBP guy, and lots of guys rake in the AFL. Probably makes no impact at the majors. Would it be mean to say his major-league ceiling is a cup of coffee?

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 9, 2009 7:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My jaw fell to the floor when I read this
ed_price
  
Agent Scott Boras seeking $10-11 M per year for Adrian Beltre. #RedSox not eager to pay that much.

Seriously? That’s roughly $1.5 million less than what he got when he hit 40 homers for the Dodgers, and he sure as hell didn’t do that in Seattle.

Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night, may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright.

by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Dec 9, 2009 7:11 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I wonder how fast Theo hung up the phone on Boras right when he said “11 million dollars”.

by Julio Nievas on Dec 9, 2009 7:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn’t be surprised if he got something close to it.

by uclatroy on Dec 9, 2009 7:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Figgins got 4yrs/$36M. Beltre is a year younger (age 31 season in 2010), has the best 3B glove in the majors, has pop but a lower OBP, but is coming of a year with injuries that will potentially supress his salary somewhat. $11M/yr doesn’t sound outrageous at all to me.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 9, 2009 7:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Speadking of serious injuries ...

Isn’t Beltre recovering from a squashed ball?
Did he need surgery to correct the problem?
Thought I heard on an Angel telecast that he may have.
Is it true?

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 9, 2009 7:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But the important thing to remember is that

Figgins and Beltre are two different players. Figgins is a leadoff man who has had success over the last five years, and Beltre is a “slugger” who has not had success over the last five years. His OPS+ with Seattle was just 101, and that only goes up to 104 after removing ‘09. So in the end, you’re paying $11 million for an average bat and a good glove.

Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night, may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright.

by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Dec 9, 2009 8:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Look at his home/away splits. Get him out of Seattle and his numbers look much better.

by uclatroy on Dec 9, 2009 8:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

His career OPS+ on the road is still 112

It’s better, but certainly not enough to warrant an $11 million contract.

Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night, may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright.

by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Dec 9, 2009 8:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Agent Scott Boras

Proceed in dealing with him at your own risk

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 9, 2009 7:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Astros are making a “strong run” for Brandon Lyon, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. At least one outlet is reporting that it’s a done deal. Mark Berman, the sports director of MyFOX in Houston reports that the Astros have agreed to a three-year deal with Lyon. It would be puzzling to see the Astros sign Lyon to a three-year deal the same day they lost LaTroy Hawkins to the Brewers because of their reluctance to go beyond a single year.

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 8:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

10:14pm: MLB.com’s Brian McTaggart says the Astros have reached a deal with Lyon, pending a physical.

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 8:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ken_Rosenthal
  
Lyon 3 yrs, 15M with Astros pending physical

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 8:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That is insanity.

by BFDC on Dec 9, 2009 8:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

George Sherrill is looking preeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeety good right about now

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 8:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

From Steve Henson of Yahoo
Dodgers are more concerned about 2B than letting on publicly, but 3-way trade tries at offing Pierre while filling 2B aren’t working yet

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 8:56 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Colletti’s doing a pretty damn good job of not letting it on.

Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night, may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright.

by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Dec 9, 2009 8:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Its because of the ‘stache… you can never tell how he’s really feeling…

by BFDC on Dec 9, 2009 9:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

There’s a video on Dodgers.com of him in the hotel room; looks like he’s been crying. Maybe I’m wrong, but it certainly appears that way.

by silverwidow on Dec 9, 2009 9:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m beginning to believe that if Manny opted out, he’d get a 3 year deal at $50 million or more.

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 9:10 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Show me the Money

by 68elcamino427 on Dec 9, 2009 9:13 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Mike Lowell to the Rangers for Max Ramirez, per Rosenthal. Sox paying nearly all of $12m salary

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 9:17 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

pending owner approval and medicals, of course

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 9:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I bet Rangers fans are pissed

This is almost like the Santana for Blake trade although Ramirez was hurt most of this past season and had a poor year.

by BFDC on Dec 9, 2009 9:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Rangers have pitching prospects up the wazoo.

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 9:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What does that have to do with losing a catcher?

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 9:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I meant to post catching prospects.

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 9:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Decent pickup for Rangers

if he’s healthy, of course.

Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night, may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright.

by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Dec 9, 2009 9:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Holy shit, Plaschke went into full on rant on twitter/

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 9:37 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

saw that…weird

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 9:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Any good tidbits?

by BFDC on Dec 9, 2009 9:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not much to it really

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 9:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It got weird

when he started talking about some sleazy story that won’t be punished

Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night, may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright.

by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Dec 9, 2009 9:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Barry Makes it Official

He ain’t coming back

Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night, may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright.

by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Dec 9, 2009 9:42 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

# Somebody will write it one day..Good for them..At some point, this peeping tom stuff has to stop 15 minutes ago from web


#
  
We’re not running it because it doesn’t effect the athete or the team directly, it has nothing to do with the games, and it would ruin ilves 16 minutes ago from web


#
  
In regard to my sleaze story today, I have embarrassing info on an L.A. athlete that we’re not running because sleaze must lose sometime 17 minutes ago from web

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 9:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He’s using Twitter to write a gossip column, which is essentially what the first comment reads like. What a dork.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Dec 9, 2009 10:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

jonmorosi
  
Trade of Soriano to #Rays nearly complete. Jesse Chavez, acquired from the #Pirates for Iwamura, is likely headed to #Braves.

by Tripon on Dec 9, 2009 9:55 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Not bad

turned Iwamura into Soriano. I wonder if that’s the entire deal.

by Eric Stephen on Dec 9, 2009 9:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

“Touch ‘em all Joe, you’ll never hit a bigger home run in your life.”

They just showed this again.

by silverwidow on Dec 9, 2009 9:57 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

The MLB network or what?

by Julio Nievas on Dec 9, 2009 10:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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