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Manny will be worth the wait

The Kinks - Tired of Waiting (via MisterGris)

Im so tired
Tired of waiting
Tired of waiting for you

I was a lonely soul
I had nobody till I met you
But you keep-a me waiting
All of the time
What can I do?

Its your life
And you can do what you want
Do what you like
But please dont keep-a me waiting
Please dont keep-a me waiting

cause Im so tired
Tired of waiting
Tired of waiting for you

Our mantra around here is "Waiting for Manny" but as we hit the 1st intra squad game I'm thinking that most of you are tired of waiting for Manny. Back in October I was adamant that Manny Ramirez would not sign with the Dodgers for several reasons.

1. Scott Boras was his agent and rarely do the Boras free agents re-sign with the team they most recently played with.

2. It appeared Manny would be able to hit a payday around 100 Million for four years at the least.

3. I didn't think Frank McCourt would be able to afford Manny while still building a competitive team given the losses of key players.

However the economic landscape has changed and so has my opinion. On December 28th I wrote the con for signing Manny Ramirez but with the changes to this team, I've changed my mind. I still believe everything I wrote but I now believe this team with Manny could get back to the World Series and so he is worth the risk. Plus the risk is much less now, since I expect he will sign a two year deal with an option for year three. We have no other options with Dunn and Abreu off the market, they have no other options unless he wants to take his bat to frigid SF. In October I felt the Mets would be a strong player for him. Madoff took care of that.  I'm as surprised as Manny that he didn't get his 100 Million payoff from someone but he didn't so now we wait.

Frank has been able to par his payroll down to 87 Million while still signing three key players in Furcal/Hudson/Blake for much less then I expected back in October. Rafy Furcal was talking about 3 to 4 years at 12 Million each. We snared him for 6.5 Million in 2009 and 30 Million total over 3 years. Orlando Hudson was talking about 4 years and 48 Million and ended up signing for 4-8 Million on a one year deal. Casey Blake came in at 5 Million per year. So three players that I would have expected us to be paying at least 28 Million for in 2009 are all signed for a min of 15 Million with Hudson incentives possibly moving that upto the 19 Million range. Then they didn't just release Andruw Jones they completely restrucutured his contract so they only had to pay him 3.7 Million this year.

Frank/Ned/Manny/Boras all doing a dance right now, but at some point this marathon dance has to have someone still standing. I'm tired of waiting but I think it will be worth the wait. Of course all of this predicated on Frank still being able to afford Manny. Los Angeles waits for the answer.

Can anyone point me to the story about how Manny's bat plays perfectly in Los Angeles? TIA

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I concur

Tired of waiting… just get Manny signed… but don’t give him three years. :-)

by Brendan Scolari on Feb 23, 2009 9:40 AM PST reply actions  

re:

Yes it is. Thanks for the link.

by meercatjohn on Feb 23, 2009 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow!

Great read! Thanks for the link.

by Brendan Scolari on Feb 23, 2009 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

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That is the link where you and I were going back and forth on how Manny might do in SF. It was based on that info that I felt he might have more trouble in SF then other parks.

by meercatjohn on Feb 23, 2009 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't remember seeing that article before

I either have a bad memory or just forgot to click the link. The SF projection is pretty close though. 24 points of OPS isn’t very much at that level and he only loses 4 homeruns. I think thats about what I said I thought he would lose but I don’t remember where we talked about that.

by Brendan Scolari on Feb 23, 2009 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Local radio

outlet reporting that we might have a deal in place with Manny by the end of the week. Take it for what it’s worth.

by meercatjohn on Feb 23, 2009 1:53 PM PST reply actions  

Grain of Salt

Anything reported by Vic “The Brick” Jacobs has little merit.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 23, 2009 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Tony Jackson pretty much debunks it here:

http://insidesocal.com/dodgers/2009/02/regarding-vic-t.html

“It MIGHT get done this week. It also might NOT get done this week. It also might not get done AT ALL. So there you go.”

by Brendan Scolari on Feb 23, 2009 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Kinks

I can’t think of the Kinks without thinking of the song “Lola,” for two reasons:

1) My Mom’s name was Nola, so I always liked the song since it rhymed

2) One of my favorite Weird Al Yankovic songs is “Yoda,” a great parody of “Lola.”

by Eric Stephen on Feb 23, 2009 4:35 PM PST reply actions  

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The Kinks are one of my favorite all time bands. The “Great Lost Kinks Album” has one of he funniest songs about getting old you will ever hear. I’ll have to dig it out.

by meercatjohn on Feb 23, 2009 6:00 PM PST up reply actions  

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Italics denote estimates
Pos No Player 2012 Salary
C 17 Ellis $500,000 team control
1B 7 Loney $6,375,000
2B 14 Ellis $2,500,000
3B 5 Uribe $8,000,000
SS 9 Gordon $485,000 team control
LF 21 Rivera $4,000,000
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RF 16 Ethier $10,950,000

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SP 58 Billingsley $9,000,000
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SP 35 Capuano $3,000,000
SP 44
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CL 54 Guerra $485,000 team control
RHP 74
Jansen $500,000 team control
RHP 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
RHP 60 Coffey $1,000,000
RHP 66 MacDougal $650,000
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Pierre $3,050,000 deferred
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30
47 Wil Ledezma lhp
31
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70 Will Savage rhp
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71 Ryan Tucker rhp
25
28 Jamey Wright rhp
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67 Jeff Baisley 3b/1b 29
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