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The All-Time LA Dodger Team: The Closer, Part I

All-Time Lineup#1 | #2 | #3 | #4 | #5 | #6 | #7 | #8
All-Time Starting Pitchers#1 | #2 | #3 | #4 | #5

We have the foundation set for our all-time team, now that both the lineup and starting pitchers are set.

All-Time LA Dodger Starting Lineup

No Player Pos
30 Maury Wills
SS
19 Junior Gilliam 2B
31 Mike Piazza C
28 Pedro Guerrero RF
6 Steve Garvey 1B
10 Ron Cey 3B
12 Dusty Baker LF
3 Willie Davis CF

All-Time LA Dodger Starting Pitchers

No Player Pos
32 Sandy Koufax
LHP
53 Don Drysdale RHP
55
Orel Hershiser RHP
34 Fernando Valenzuela LHP
20 Don Sutton RHP

Now it's time to focus on the bullpen.  We are going to have only four spots in our bullpen, mostly because our starters are so awesome.

1) Closer (Eck era, 1988-2008)
This will be our one-inning short man at the end of the game, the modern closer. This pattern of closer usage -- mostly one inning -- became the norm with Dennis Eckersley's ascension to the Hall of Fame in 1988.

2) Ace Fireman (pre-Eck, 1958-1987)
This will be our smokejumper-type bullpener, the multi-inning ace reliever much more common in the first 30 years of the Dodgers' Los Angeles existence.

3) Setup RHP

4) Setup LHP

Today's vote will concentrate on the best closers of the last 21 years.  With apologies to Jim Gott (38 saves over five seasons, only one of which as full-time closer), we are setting the bar at 50 saves.  Here are the candidates with their stats as a Dodger reliever.

Closer Years IP W-L Saves ERA+ WHIP
Jay Howell 1988-1992 308.1 22-19 85 169 1.086
Todd Worrell 1993-1997 268.0 17-19 127 99 1.280
Jeff Shaw 1998-2001 235.1 9-17 129 124 1.186
Eric Gagne 2002-2006 262.1 14-7 161 219 0.827
Takashi Saito     2006-2008 189.2 12-7 81 229 0.912

Eric's Pick

This really is a two-man race, between Eric Gagne and Takashi Saito.   Saito was a nice surprise, but I have to go with Gagne here.  Nobody was as good as Gagne's 2002-2004, when "Game Over" became a phenomenon.  I'm sticking with the man with 84 straight saves and the 2003 Cy Young Award winner, Eric Gagne.

Phil's Pick

Nice to see HOF Don Sutton cruise to the fifth spot on our team. Gagne created Dodger fans but I can't vote for him.  I'll go with the guy who in my mind was the most improbable Dodger to ever make it big.  Smiling Sammy Saito.

Who's your pick?

Poll
Who is the LA Dodger modern closer (1988-2008)?
Jay Howell
4 votes
Todd Worrell
3 votes
Jeff Shaw
1 votes
Eric Gagne
161 votes
Takashi Saito
38 votes

207 votes | Poll has closed

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Gagne

He was a phenomenon.

Also, given the fact that I hardly care about steroids in the first place, nobody will get me to care in Gagne’s case. :o

by kensai on Feb 7, 2009 2:06 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Kind of in the same boat

The steroid allegations were certainly troubling, but not enough to make me forget or invalidate Gagne’s amazing 3 years.

If only DePo hadn’t made that stupid trade which blew out Gagne’s arm in 2004 (even though he pitched the exact number of innings three straight years).

:)

by Eric Stephen on Feb 7, 2009 8:44 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

formatting didn't work

There was supposed to be a [/plaschke] tag in there.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 7, 2009 8:45 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

A-Rod tested positive

Another one down. :o

Steroids were freely available in the 60s, there’s no real telling who was clean anyway. :o

by kensai on Feb 7, 2009 9:17 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Saito was awesome but the energy that filled the stadium when Gagne came in unforgettable. Had to go with him.

by ASUcruz on Feb 7, 2009 8:48 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Easily Gagne.

by Linix129 on Feb 7, 2009 8:53 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Gagne

If only there had been some offense so he didn’t need 60 saves per year.

by mleadman on Feb 7, 2009 10:05 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Also, if you wanted to fill out the bullpen

We could vote on another starter or two to be long relievers.

by Brendan Scolari on Feb 7, 2009 1:25 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

re:

You do know the point of the poll is to slot the players in the roles they performed on the Dodgers, otherwise the lineup would be completely different.

by meercatjohn on Feb 7, 2009 2:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oops, my bad.

Didn’t think about that at all.

by Brendan Scolari on Feb 7, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Stay Tuned

Next week’s poll: better human – Pol Pot or Mother Theresa? You decide.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 7, 2009 1:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

PH/Utility

You doing that? Could be interesting, though suppose Mota is shoe-in at PH.

by Bob Hendley on Feb 7, 2009 3:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

We will probably do at least one RHB and LHB off the bench. And probably make a super utility spot just so Derrel Thomas or Lee Lacy can join the fray.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 7, 2009 3:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

re:

Lee Lacy was so much better then Mota:) I just want to know who the backup catcher is Jeff Torborg or Chad Krueter?

by meercatjohn on Feb 7, 2009 5:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I forgot about backup catcher

Good call.

Mota and Lacy are fighting for different spots. Mota will try to fill the RH pinch-hitter role, whereas Lacy and Thomas fight it out for super utility spot.

So now the bench looks like:

1) RH pinch-hitter
2) LH pinch-hitter
3) super utility man
4) backup catcher

Rick Dempsey is going to get a ton of support from me! :)

by Eric Stephen on Feb 7, 2009 5:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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