I HATE the giants.

by Dodger Dude on Apr 13, 2009 1:12 PM PDT Comment 39 comments

I HATE the giants.

HATE HATE HATE.

Healthy hate, but hate.

I've always disliked Randy Johnson for being so tall and good and always rebuffing the Dodger's advances, but now I really hate him for being old AND a Giant. And I hate the giants for being so stupid as to build a hitters ballpark with a dorky corporate name and then put all there eggs into the pitching basket. I 'm not sure if its rationale to hate them for that since I want them to loose every game of the season, but I do.

They have built a team where the only chance they have to win any games at all this year is in Dodger stadium. Even with Barry Bonds gone, I hate them even more for getting rid of him and his performance enhancers because they were just trying to take away one more reason for me to hate them. I really, really really hate the giants. Really.

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Calm down, man! :)

AT&T Park has never been a hitter’s park since it’s opened.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 13, 2009 2:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, AT&T is not a hitter's ballpark.

Most people consider it a pitcher’s park.

I’ve never hated Barry, I love seeing great players. I’m sure there were lots of Dodgers on the juice and I don’t hate them, so…

by Brendan Scolari on Apr 13, 2009 6:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

The results are in:

Left center at phone booth park is only 11 feet further back than Wrigley, left field and right field are shorter than Wrigley, Center field is within two feet of Wrigley, if you hit anywhere near the top of the right field wall the umpire gives you a home run, and there is scant foul territory to catch errant pop-ups, and some nice gaps to place the ball.

Pea soup fog soaking the air and ball with moisture during the summer nights may kill some fly balls though making it look like a tougher park.

The building of a semi-ambiguous ball park is all the more reason to hate the giants.

http://www.andrewclem.com/Baseball/ATTPark.html

The giants sucking and taking all of the drama out of opening day is yet another reason.

by Dodger Dude on Apr 13, 2009 8:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm not sure why Wrigley is the standard

Wrigley is a hitters ppark because the wind always blows out and there’s little foul territory.

AT&T has the deepest right center field in the game, with a huge wall all along right field. Its an extremely hard park on lefties. For righties its not bad. But as you noted it’s at seas level which makes it harder to hit at.

Here’s three year park factors which show AT&T as exactly average. Baseball Prospectus’ 2009 Annual gave AT&T a park factor of 1.002, basically exactly average.

There’s not really much else to argue, its an average park. Not to mention its beautiful, the nicest park I’ve been to (of course I haven’t been to too many… yet). There’s a lot of things to hate the Giants for, but I don’t think their stadium is one of them.

by Brendan Scolari on Apr 13, 2009 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

It doesn't have to be a rationale arguement

I still have Candlestick, which was ugly and utilitarian in my mind, and I refuse to let any “beauty” come into the picture.

But just to absolve my crystal clear message, Wrigley is one of the smallest parks, while not being freakishly small like Fenway. Therefore it is my standard. Gale force wind can definitely blow across the SF penisula from West to East, but that location is by far the calmest water front location in the city because it is on the other side of the hills and on some summer days it is actually summer there.

But again, yet another reason to hate, they fooled you into thinking it was a pitchers park and me into thinking it was a hitters park, and really its just a confused screwed up place with weird gaps and dimensions with hugely variable weather conditions to make you feel stupid.

DOn’t you see what’s wrong with these people and their stadium?

by Dodger Dude on Apr 14, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I love their stadium

Absolutely love it. Great place to watch a game. I just don’t like their team.

by Brendan Scolari on Apr 14, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's an awesome park

sad to say. I saw the Dodgers clinch a playoff spot in 2006 there; it was a great way for me to break in the park.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 14, 2009 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes

That is a nice welcoming.

by Brendan Scolari on Apr 14, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

And that's

my 1000th comment on TBLA!

by Brendan Scolari on Apr 14, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Look for this in the mail soon

by Eric Stephen on Apr 14, 2009 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lol

I thought Id at least get one of these:

by Brendan Scolari on Apr 14, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ergh

Above comment ruined the chain.

by Brendan Scolari on Apr 14, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Please ignore these two comments

and skip straight to “lows”. :-)

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by Brendan Scolari on Apr 14, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Guess you have to read that one backwards.

I’m that sneaky. ;-)

by Brendan Scolari on Apr 14, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hate the giants and i don’t care who knows

by kretz on Apr 13, 2009 10:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

How is this for sick:

I hate the Giants enough to want their fans to really suffer. My ideal regular season ends with the Dodgers making the playoffs by beating the Giants in a one game playoff. Of course, if that doesn’t happen I want them to finish dead last with a .217 winning percentage. Looks like I have a chance at the latter this year.

by prosellis on Apr 14, 2009 8:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Nah

They’ll beat out the Padres at the very least and they have a shot at .500 or so.

by Brendan Scolari on Apr 14, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

NOW THATS THE SPIRIT!

You want to make the giants hurt so bad, that their teenage fan’s grandchildren feel the hurt. I like it!

by Dodger Dude on Apr 14, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

. . . Maybe not as much as this guy

http://www.dodgerblues.com/content/features_fights.html#roseboro

Juan Marichal beats John Roseboro with his bat

August 22, 1965

Dodger catcher John Roseboro was a clutch hitter and classy fielder, but he’s remembered most for an incident in 1965, considered by many to be one of baseball’s uglier moments. Juan Marichal, the San Francisco Giants pitcher, came up to bat in the third inning of a game at Candlestick Park. Marichal had hit a Dodger player earlier and a peeved Roseboro had been firing Sandy Koufax’s pitches back to him just inches from Marichal’s ear as he took his turn at bat.

Marichal turned around to tell Roseboro to stop and Roseboro stood up and took off his mask. Marichal saw this as a threat and immediately hit the catcher over the head with the bat twice, opening a 2-inch gash in Roseboro’s head. With blood gushing down Roseboro’s face, the two teams—already heated rivals battling for the NL pennant—brawled for 14 minutes.

Marichal was suspended for eight games, and Roseboro later sued him for $110,000 in damages. Yet, the two men somehow became friends in the 1980s.

by Dodger Dude on Apr 14, 2009 9:12 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

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