Mutualism? Andre / Manny Relationship?

by meercatjohn on May 18, 2009 9:17 AM PDT

To soon to note a trend but not to soon to start to talk about it. Common knowledge that Andre Ethier went on a tear last year after the Dodgers acquired Manny, while Manny went on to heights he himself had never climbed. Andre and Manny both started the season right where they left off but once Manny left the team, he has fallen on hard times. Is this an example of a Mutualism relationship? Or SSS.

Home cooking should fix whatever ails Andre but he needs to turn those groundballs into launching rockets. Very successful road trip despite the Dodger clean up hitters doing very little cleanup. If it continues expect Casey Blake to make an appearance soon.

Per Baseball HQ

Date	AB	BA	BB%	CT%	EYE	PX	SLG	H%	G/L/F
Pre 5/6	101	0.327	15%	84%	1.13	146	0.574	34%	34/17/49
Post 5/6	42	0.143	11%	74%	0.45	23	0.167	19%	47/13/41

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Without Manny

The offense seems like the 2006 club to me. Not a ton of homers (although in bunches when we need them!) but just OBP-ing the opposition to death.

I think (hope) Ethier will be fine and Joe trusts him enough to keep him cleanup for a while though too.

by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2009 10:15 AM PDT reply actions

Andre is about to face a plethora of mediocre pitching, he better start feasting on it.

Should we start a Martin Home Run Contest for the home stand?

by meercatjohn on May 18, 2009 10:24 AM PDT reply actions

Sounds good to me

Maybe a Martin vs. Pierre contest? :)

If Juan Castro can hit one, anyone can.

by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions

i think Pierre's come closer than Russ so far

he almost got that one on sunday in Florida. I thought it was out lol

by bucknellbruin on May 19, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions

For now its SSS

I think looking at how Ethier has done since the Manny supsension is difficult. Production has fallen off a cliff, but its only been 9 games. Players go on these kind of slumps all the time. However, you could look at how Ethier has done with Manny both this year and last year. That would give you a bit more of a sample size. I haven’t had a chance to look it up yet, but if memory serves, Ethier was in a horrible slump last year before Manny showed up.

by Michael White on May 18, 2009 10:39 AM PDT reply actions

He was quite pedestrian until Manny showed up. His OPS on July 31st was .779 and ended at .885.
Manny’s was a robust .926 but ended 1.031. They were the best twosome in baseball from Aug 1st on.

by meercatjohn on May 18, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions

when Andre goes cold he really goes cold.

man caught looking 2 times again tonight and once with the bases full and one out….The Dodgers may be ok without Manny but it looks like Ethier may not be. I had high hopes for him this year, well we still do have a long way to go, maybe he will turn it around, just hope he does it before Manny gets back.

by TrueBlueDodgerFan on May 19, 2009 9:12 PM PDT reply actions

To soon to note a trend but not to soon to

TOO soon to note a trend but not TOO soon to

by SICILIANO on May 24, 2009 9:34 AM PDT reply actions

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2012 Dodgers Payroll

Italics denote estimates
Pos	No	Player	2012 Salary
C	17	Ellis	$500,000	team control
1B	7	Loney	$6,375,000
2B	14	Ellis	$2,500,000
3B	5	Uribe	$8,000,000
SS	9	Gordon	$485,000	team control
LF	21	Rivera	$4,000,000
CF	27	Kemp	$10,000,000
RF	16	Ethier	$10,950,000

IF/OF	6	Hairston	$2,250,000
OF	10	Gwynn	$850,000
2B/3B	3	Kennedy	$800,000
C	18	Treanor	$850,000
IF	12	Sellers	$485,000	team control

SP	22	Kershaw	$6,000,000
SP	58	Billingsley	$9,000,000
SP	29	Lilly	$12,000,000
SP	35	Capuano	$3,000,000
SP	44	Harang	$3,000,000

CL	54	Guerra	$485,000	team control
RHP	74	Jansen	$500,000	team control
RHP	55	Guerrier	$4,750,000
RHP	60	Coffey	$1,000,000
RHP	66	MacDougal	$650,000
LHP	57	Elbert	$485,000	team control
RHP	36	Hawksworth	$500,000	team control

TJ	41	De La Rosa	$485,000	team control

		Manny	$8,087,432	deferred
		Andruw	$3,375,000	deferred
		Pierre	$3,050,000	deferred
		Furcal	$3,000,000	deferred
		Kuroda	$2,000,000	deferred
		Garland	$1,500,000	option buyout
		Blake	$1,250,000	option buyout

Totals			$112,162,432
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Players on 40-man roster used as roster fillers until moves are made. Current 40-man roster count: 40 (not including Belisario)

2012 Non-Roster Invitees

No	Player	Age*
63	Jose Ascanio rhp	27
61	Alberto Castillo lhp	36
56	Matt Chico lhp	29
33	John Grabow lhp	33
59	Angel Guzman rhp	30
47	Wil Ledezma lhp	31
72	Shane Lindsay rhp	27
62	Fernando Nieve rhp	29
73	Scott Rice lhp	30
70	Will Savage rhp	27
71	Ryan Tucker rhp	25
28	Jamey Wright rhp	37

30	Josh Bard c	34
82	Griff Erickson c	24
81	Matt Wallachc	26
67	Jeff Baisley 3b/1b	29
65	Luis Cruz ss/2b	28
37	Josh Fields 3b	29
64	Lance Zawadzki if	27
56	Cory Sullivan of	32

*Age on June 30, 2012
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