Manny Who?
by Brendan Scolari on May 18, 2009 2:05 PM PDT
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Juan Pierre must be channeling Manny Ramirez's inner-spirit as he's been absolutely on fire since Manny's suspension on May 7th. His line since Manny's suspension is a sizzling .465/.511/.674 for a 1.185 OPS. Over the 10 game span Juan has gone 20-43 with 4 walks and only 1 strikeout. To put this in perspective, Manny has never reached base more than 24 times (the amount of times that Pierre has reached) in 10 games in his Dodger career. The closest that he came was his first 10 games as a Dodger when he tied Juan by going 19-40 with 5 walks and 5 strikeouts.
As Phil pointed out in the game recap yesterday, Pierre has a .476 BABIP over the 10 day span, meaning there's no way he can sustain anywhere near this kind of production, but this is still a pretty remarkable performance.
| DATE | Game ID | OPP | AB | R | H | HR | RBI | BB | SO | SB | AVG | H_A |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 05/07/2009 | 2009/05/07/wasmlb-lanmlb-1 | WSH | 4 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | .371 | H |
| 05/08/2009 | 2009/05/08/sfnmlb-lanmlb-1 | SF | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | .378 | H |
| 05/09/2009 | 2009/05/09/sfnmlb-lanmlb-1 | SF | 5 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | .405 | H |
| 05/10/2009 | 2009/05/10/sfnmlb-lanmlb-1 | SF | 5 | 3 | 3 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | .426 | H |
| 05/12/2009 | 2009/05/12/lanmlb-phimlb-1 | @PHI | 5 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | .404 | A |
| 05/13/2009 | 2009/05/13/lanmlb-phimlb-1 | @PHI | 4 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | .411 | A |
| 05/14/2009 | 2009/05/14/lanmlb-phimlb-1 | @PHI | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | .383 | A |
| 05/15/2009 | 2009/05/15/lanmlb-flomlb-1 | @FLA | 4 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | .391 | A |
| 05/16/2009 | 2009/05/16/lanmlb-flomlb-1 | @FLA | 5 | 3 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | .406 | A |
| 05/17/2009 | 2009/05/17/lanmlb-flomlb-1 | @FLA | 5 | 2 | 3 | 0 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 0 | .419 |
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One post lamenting how bad Furcal has been and one post describing how great Pierre has been. Did I walk into bizarro world?
Ha!
Conversely, if you would have said Furcal and Pierre have combined to hit .295/.352/.379, that would have been completely reasonable. :)
by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
It is pretty odd.
Right now, Furcal should be the one batting ninth in the lineup.
by Brendan Scolari on May 18, 2009 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions
if...
pierre can put together a hitting streak – like that guy in washington – it would make it hard to yank him, but then i don’t see the return of manny as a plus for the dodgers. in fact, i had hoped he would not be a dodger this year. juan pierre in the past couple weeks has been the silver lining in the drug suspension. go juan!
child left behind
Manny who???????????
Manny stay in Florida you need to take the rest of the seson off, Pierre is doing great THINK BLUE!!!!!!!!
Speaking of speedy LF
My eyes nearly popped out of my head when I saw Carl Crawford has 24 freaking steals already. In 39 games!!! He’s on pace for 100 thefts (99.69 to be exact). I can’t tell you how excited I am at that.
Oh yeah, Crawford has been caught 0 times.
I love that picture
I think he needs to grow that mustache back not change a thing. I am happy for Juan that he was able to jump into a role so successfully and provide a large contribution to the Dodgers. It really is a testament to how hard he works everyday and studies the game. I look forward to and will be in SD for Manny’s coming back party and I am optimistic that Slappy can continue his success for 40 more games…
If Manny wasn't suspended
Would Ethier have lost his job? Not trying to stir things up, just curious.
I doubt it
Pierre probably would have still just got his two or so starts per week, giving all three the occasional day off.
by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope.Unless Eithier's slump reached the Conor Jackson level of awfulness.
"Morale has dropped from ‘low’ to ‘I’d like to burn this place down’.
I've been thinking about this
particularly regarding how Torre will handle the situation when Manny returns. I don’t see how Pierre is the starter. Neither Pierre nor Manny can play right field. Pierre can arguably play CF, but with Kemp playing the best defensive CF in the national league, it would seem like an unnecesarily weak defensive alignment. Considering Kemp’s asserted his role as a marquee deffensive CF, and since Kemp and Etheir are the only two who can play RF, I think Pierre is relegated to the bench.
by Michael White on May 18, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I feel this is something that can be debated for 40 games and then on the 41st game someone gets hurt and makes the whole debate moot. Until the problem presents itself I’d like this community to stay clear of what might happen when Manny comes back. It is such a lightening rod that I’d rather just enjoy what Juan is bringing to the table. It is the first time I’ve been able to enjoy him since we signed him.
On the other hand if you could trade Ethier for Peavy would you do it:)
I'm more worried about Ethier being traded then relegated to the bench.
If Colletti is serious about acquiring a starting pitcher by the trade deadline, look for Ethier to become a trade chip (unless he breaks out of his slump and starts hitting for power). I can see a starting package of Ethier/McDonald/DeWitt for a pitcher from a team out of contention come July.
I have no money
but I will bet you one thousand dollars that Ethier will absolutely not be traded in 2009
by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Really? That seems very confident.
Roy Oswalt?
This team might have more then enough offense when Manny comes back but maybe not enough frontline pitching for a run in the playoffs to the World Series. Look how many runs we are already scoring even with Furcal super scuffling, Manny in Florida, and Martin, Loney hitting mostly singles and Kemp still not hitting on all his cylinders.
At Billingsley’s current pace he is going to notch 243 innings quite a bump from his career high last season. Will he have the arm strength to be the number one guy in the playoffs after notching all those innings?
That would net a pretty damn good pitcher
Or we’d be getting screwed. It’s probably best just to hope there is no trade involving Ethier. ;-)
by Brendan Scolari on May 18, 2009 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't think so.
Because Pierre wouldn’t have gotten the chance to hit this much. Now what if Manny was only suspeded for 10 games? That would be interesting…
Of course eventually Pierre will comeback to Earth anyways…
by Brendan Scolari on May 18, 2009 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice
A hope we don’t get a Meteor Man performance from Juan anytime soon! :)
by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I really love this team right now
Even with Manny’s suspension, even if Juan returns to classic Pierre, even if the “fifth” starters stop winning 70% of their starts, I have an amazing sense of contentment with this team right now.
One thing I’ve noticed doing the week-by-week stats is that even though some have slumped, there are always 4-6 hitters in the starting lineup that have a good week. The best thing about this team is that it’s built to avoid basically everyone being terrible at once. There might be an easy out or two, but there are never four or five easy outs, like the middle of 2008.
It has been a long time since I have felt this way, but the Dodgers of 2009 have played thus far like they are the best team in baseball. Sure, it’s only 39 games, and there will be tough stretches, but this is an awesome time to be a Dodger fan.
by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2009 3:08 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Other then Furcal/Hudson this is basically the same lineup that was awful for a good stretch of August.
Bad stretches will happen
but I don’t think it will get as bad as that for as long this year, even if Furcal does his best Angel Berroa impression.
by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
she loves Andre, and mentioned so at the DT group meeting
by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2009 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions
From Jon Heyman:
• If the Indians continue to sink, Mark DeRosa could hit the trade market (as could 2008 Cy Young winner Cliff Lee). DeRosa, a poor man’s Casey Blake, is valuable for his versatility.
Didn't you see my article earlier?
The real Furcal returns tonight, against the team he went out against last May :)
by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Then so it shall be
The Weeks news has left a pit in my stomach. I was really having a great roto season and had just traded for pitching because my hitting was so dominant. Hamilton/Hughes for Carpenter/Manny. 21 team mixed league so the picking for Weeks replacements are choices like Belliard/Keppinger/Adam Kennedy/Frandsen/Cedeno/Alex Gonzalez so now I’m depressed.
Back to the normal lineup
per Josh Rawitch:
Pierre, LF
Furcal, SS
Hudson, 2B
Ethier, RF
Martin, C
Loney, 1B
Kemp, CF
Blake, 3B
Wolf, P
Game thread will be up around 5pm.
Christina, we are going to crush Redding tonight, simply crush him and it will make Milton’s day look stellar when we are done with him.
I second that notion
Just wait until Wednesday, with either Stults or Weaver vs. Livan. Hits galore at DS!!!
by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
That's unfortunate for them
Delgado will be an interesting litmus test for HOF voters. I don’t remember him being linked with PEDs, but of course he played in “the steroid era” so his numbers will be discounted by many.
Bagwell: 149 OPS+, 449 HR
Thome: 147 OPS+, 548 HR
Delgado: 138 OPS+, 473 HR
McGriff: 134 OPS+, 493 HR
by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I was thinking of 1B (slash DH I guess)
so Griffey doesn’t apply (and he’s a lock barring any PED revelation)
by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Out at least until then.
But I have heard that his hip problems could be career threatening.
by Brendan Scolari on May 18, 2009 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks
Who is “Matt”? Is he a Mets’ reporter or something?
by Eric Stephen on May 18, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Manny who?!
Aww c’mon guys, he single handedly picked them up and put them in the play offs last year, he taught by example and now the whole team knows that they can do it. Baseball is streaky, it’s nice to see Pierre beatin that ball to death, no reason he and Manny can’t play at the same time.
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