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Dodgers Young Hitters Need To Shoulder The Load

It's hard to find much to complain about the Dodgers and their 28-13 start.  Despite losing Manny Ramirez for 50 games, they continue to score runs, and they lead are second in the majors in runs scored (per game) and lead the majors in runs allowed.

The lineup is built around its young core of Andre Ethier, Matt Kemp, James Loney, and Russell Martin.  They are the only regular hitters on the right side of 30 years old.  On most nights, with or without Ramirez, they are the four through seven hitters in the most potent lineup in the National League.

About two weeks ago, Orlando Hudson told Billy Witz of the NY Times:

“We’re going to ride their coattails,” Hudson said, speaking in a staccato that was as quick as his feet on the basepaths. “They better get ready,” he added, “because we’re all jumping on the young bucks’ coattails.” 

However, in May they are struggling.  In April, three of the four had good months, with only Russell Martin slumping:

April
Player PA 2B 3B HR BB BA/OBP/SLG OPS
Kemp 92 6 3 3 10 .325/.402/.588 .990
Ethier 104 6 0 5 15 .306/.423/.553 .976
Loney 97 6 0 0 16 .313/.423/.388 .810
Martin 89 4 0 0 10 .205/.303/.256 .560
Totals 382 22 3 8 51 .288/.390/.449 .839

In May, the tables have turned, as Martin has been the only one hiting.

May
Player PA 2B 3B HR BB BA/OBP/SLG OPS
Martin 66 2 0 0 14 .353/.500/.392 .892
Kemp 78 2 1 1 6 .222/.282/.319 .601
Loney 77 1 0 2 2 .230/.247/.324 .571
Ethier 76 2 0 1 8 .194/.276/.269 .545
Totals 297 7 1 4 30 .242/.320/.322 .642

The power has been way down for this quartet this month, and they have decreased their unintentional walk rate from 11.5% of plate appearances in April to 9.1% in May.

Again, the Dodgers have the best record in baseball and have been doing great as a whole, and the offense hasn't suffered much this month despite the drop in production from its core.  The club averaged 5.7 runs per game in April, and are at 5.5 per game in May.

There's no reason to think their numbers won't improve, especially over the May numbers.  This group is more like it played in April than it has in May.  Manager Joe Torre agrees:

“If you asked me toward the end of last year if that confidence level was there, I wouldn’t be sure. But it’s there. They think they’re pretty good in their own right.”

With or without Manny, how the foursome of Ethier, Kemp, Loney, and Martin performs will go a long way in determining the Dodgers' fate.

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Over 200 hundred at bats in May from Martin/Kemp/Ethier and only two home runs. Shocking but the two players we can least afford to lose right now from the lineup are Blake/Hudson.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 20, 2009 9:52 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah

I really hope O-Dog is only down for a couple of days.

by Eric Stephen on May 20, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

The doubles are more shocking

Their total power is way down this month.

The foursome in April hit a double every 17.3 PA, and in May have hit one every 42.4 PA.

Their power (SLG – BA) has been cut in half, .161 in April to .080 in May.

by Eric Stephen on May 20, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good catch

I had for some reason been counting the Dodgers with only 40 games when I did the calculation last night, and for some reason ignored Philly.

by Eric Stephen on May 20, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pitching schedule (Road Trip)

5/25 vs. COL (Stults)
5/26 vs. COL (Milton)
5/27 vs. COL (Kershaw)
5/28 vs. CHC (Wolf)
5/29 vs. CHC (Billingsley)
5/30 vs. CHC (Stults)
5/31 vs. CHC (Milton**)

**Hopefully this is actually Kuroda and Milton is DFA’d.

by silverwidow on May 20, 2009 11:02 AM PDT reply actions  

I think Milton gets at least that one more start

because they haven’t scheduled a rehab start for Kuroda, and he will need at least 2 rehab starts before coming back.

Reasonably, we are looking at June 3-5 or so for Kuroda.

by Eric Stephen on May 20, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kuroda is on pace

to pitch for Inland Empire on Friday, 5/22.

I think they could work something out where he’s available on 5/31.

by silverwidow on May 20, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Perhaps

he could make 40-50 pitches on Friday, then 75-80 on Tuesday for ABQ (3 days’ rest), putting on pace to start 5/31 on regular rest.

by silverwidow on May 20, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I honestly don't think that will happen

they will likely stretch Kuroda out so he’s ready to pitch at full strength when he comes back.

I don’t think the team is as anxious to skip that Milton start on 5/31 as you are.

by Eric Stephen on May 20, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think the team is as anxious to skip that Milton start on 5/31 as you are.

:)

by silverwidow on May 20, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ugh 5/31

that looks like a big… FAIL. Unless it is indeed Kuroda.

Milton in Wrigley… mmm good! Fun for the whole family.

by underdog on May 20, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder how they'll work out the schedule

during the week of June 8. There’s a two game series with SD sandwiched between two off days (Monday and Thursday) before an interleague series in Texas. That virtually assures Kershaw of a “homecoming.”

by silverwidow on May 20, 2009 11:39 AM PDT reply actions  

I promise not to have any pre-game graphs because his next start in the state of Texas :)

by Eric Stephen on May 20, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

From Jim Callis
Jim (Boca Raton, FL): Ben, love the chats. Ethan Martin has been mowin’ em down in A ball. What is this guys ceiling? If he keeps this up could he be in the same breath as a Kershaw?

SportsNation Jim Callis: (2:27 PM ET ) Huge ceiling = frontline starter. Martin was the best high school pitcher in the 2008 draft and the only reason he hasn’t been more hyped is that he tweaked a knee shortly after signing and didn’t see any game action. He’s not quite in Kershaw’s class, but he’d make a fine No. 2 behind him in time. Or No. 3, not to forget about Chad Billingsley.

http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=26557

by Tripon on May 20, 2009 11:43 AM PDT reply actions  

back in the day I once envisioned an Edwin Jackson/Greg Miller combo that would rival Koufax/Big D. That was a bit silly in retrospect but I don’t think it is out of the realm of possibility that Kershaw/Billingsley could match them.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 20, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

In "Odd Man Out"

(Matt McCarthy’s book about his one season as a minor leaguer with the Angels), he mentioned going up against the duo of Miller and (then starter) Jonathan Broxton in the playoffs, and how overmatched they were against them. Of course this was 2002 and those two were oh so young.

by Eric Stephen on May 20, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

gee, total mystery, what could explain this?

Maybe they all just stopped taking steroids after Manny got busted.

by elstumpo on May 20, 2009 2:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Luckily Blake and Hudson hadn’t cycled off yet.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 20, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

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C 18 Treanor $850,000

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SP 44
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