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Manny Ramirez: The Day We Stopped Believin'

Last night was Blogger Night at Dodger Stadium, and I was all set to write a post about how great the night was, and how open the Josh Rawitch and the Dodgers are to new media.  The club has the best record in baseball, and has not lost at home all season.

What could possibly go wrong???

Well, Manny Ramirez getting suspended for 50 games is probably on the high end of the spectrum of worst things that could have happened.

If you want a silver lining, the Dodgers do have a 6½ game lead in the division, and no other NL West club has really shown anything so far this season.  Will the Dodgers still be in first place when Manny returns in 50 games?

I say yes.

Xavier Paul will be recalled for tonight's game against Washington.

Update:  Manny Quote

Recently I saw a physician for a personal health issue. He gave me a medication, not a steroid, which he thought was OK to give me. Unfortunately, the medication was banned under our drug policy. Under the policy that mistake is now my responsibility. I have been advised not to say anything more for now. I do want to say one other thing; I’ve taken and passed about 15 drug tests over the past five seasons. I want to apologize to Mr. McCourt, Mrs. McCourt, Mr. Torre, my teammates, the Dodger organization, and to the Dodger fans. LA is a special place to me and I know everybody is disappointed. So am I. I’m sorry about this whole situation

UPDATE:  I believe I've found the exact moment when the Dodgers' fortunes turned for the worst:

Evidently Manny was trying to prepare for a night with the family below:


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Photo courtesy of Juan Ocampo/LA Dodgers

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Wow

Not the start to the morning I was looking for.

Weaver On Acid: 1/2 oz Jagermeister, 1/2 oz Malibu coconut rum, 1/2 oz pineapple juice

by the big grabowski on May 7, 2009 9:40 AM PDT reply actions  

"Xavier Paul will be recalled for tonight's game against Washington."

Wow, you got that info quick. It saved us from having to worry about Repko coming up, or something off the wall like bringing up Dewitt to play third and moving Blake to left.

by Michael White on May 7, 2009 9:40 AM PDT reply actions  

Dewitt to 3B and Blake and left

Might be better than Blake at 3B and Pierre in left.

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by the big grabowski on May 7, 2009 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would agree

But it would be, Pierre in left for 5 days, and 1-2 starts a week for Dewitt—- if the above scenario played out.

by Michael White on May 7, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Still better than Pierre all the time

Unless you mean that Dewitt comes up in place of XPaul, so the downside is he doens’t get a chance at all.

F*** You May 7th.

by the big grabowski on May 7, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

That I disagree with

I still think the best place for Dewitt is AAA, not sitting on our bench for several days on end. Then again, I guess the same could be said about Paul. Oh well, I guess I don’t really know what I’m saying…

by Michael White on May 7, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

per ESPN - Manny's statement

Recently I saw a physician for a personal health issue. He gave me a medication, not a steroid, which he thought was OK to give me," Ramirez said. "Unfortunately, the medication was banned under our drug policy. Under the policy that mistake is now my responsibility. I have been advised not to say anything more for now.

“I do want to say one other thing; I’ve taken and passed about 15 drug tests over the past five seasons. I want to apologize to [Dodgers owner Frank] McCourt, Mrs. McCourt, [manager Joe] Torre, my teammates, the Dodger organization, and to the Dodger fans. LA is a special place to me and I know everybody is disappointed. So am I. I’m sorry about this whole situation.”

little blue pill?

by Big Blue on May 7, 2009 9:41 AM PDT reply actions  

haha

No remember Rafael Palmeiro endorsed the little blue pill. I mean how can that thing make you better at baseball?

by Seanny Rotten on May 7, 2009 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

They'll straddle .500 for those fifty games.

Unless the guys NOT banned use this as motivation to prove the critics that claim LA is nothing without Manny wrong.

But I can understand if morale is especially low at Dodger stadium.

by Dr. Geek on May 7, 2009 9:41 AM PDT reply actions  

Tough break

I’m glad the NL West is not decided as some have said now. But I’m very sad to see another MLB icon disgraced with this black mark. Whether it was indeed an incompetent doctor or just Manny being lazy and not checking it first, it’s not good for baseball. Who’s left now? Pujols?

The Rockies will sneak up on you. ;-) 3rd in the NL in FIP and wOBA the last 12 games…it’s coming together

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on May 7, 2009 9:42 AM PDT reply actions  

I have to say

I really enjoy your many signatures (or, in this case, your Manny signature)

by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

haha

Gotta mix things up. And today needed a special one.

Stupid May 7th. When the hell did anything good happen on this day. Never, that’s when.

F*** You May 7th.

by the big grabowski on May 7, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

My daughter was born on this day..That’s something good that happened on May 7th.

by Fezzik60 on May 7, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Took this off of BTF

Will Carroll Tweet

    Ok this is big … Manny was suspended under 8.G.2 of the JDA. That’s “other” and at Commish’s discretion. http://bit.ly/a7Kq0

by Tripon on May 7, 2009 9:52 AM PDT reply actions  

What does that mean?

He was suspended under for a drug from the “Other” section?

F*** You May 7th.

by the big grabowski on May 7, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Longer Will Carroll statement.

UPDATE 3: Ramirez’s statement issued through the MLBPA indicates that Ramirez will not appeal his suspension and that he received the banned substance from a doctor. Ramirez was suspended under section 8.G.2 of the Joint Drug Agreement, which is "other." In his statement, there’s no clear statement that Ramirez ever tested positive. Combined, those two facts point to a non-testable drug, but this is not confirmed. The only other known 8.G.2 suspension was Jordan Schaefer.

by Tripon on May 7, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

G. Other Violations
1. For purposes of the penalties in Sections 8.B and 8.C above, a positive test result reported prior to the first 2006 spring training voluntary reporting date shall not be considered in determining the number of times that a Player has tested positive under the Program.
2. A Player may be subjected to disciplinary action for just cause by the Commissioner for any Player violation of Section 2 above not referenced in Section 8.A through 8.F above.

by Tripon on May 7, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

"At the Commisioner's discretion"

So that means Bud Selig looked at the evidence and said “yes we’ll suspend him.” Instead of Manny violating a rule with a set punishment? At least that’s what it sounds like.

F*** You May 7th.

by the big grabowski on May 7, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can't begin to imagine Giants Fans Glee.

What do we call treating everyone equally when they are clearly not equal? Communism!

by Sordid on May 7, 2009 9:57 AM PDT reply actions  

Unfortunately

I don’t have to imagine it. The text messages are raining down on my phone as we speak. :-(

by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

And sick minds.

Does this at least mean Manny won’t opt out after this year?

by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know who else would give him a 20 million contract next year.

What do we call treating everyone equally when they are clearly not equal? Communism!

by Sordid on May 7, 2009 10:02 AM PDT reply actions  

Well that would be the silver lining then.

If it means we get an extra year of Manny, it ain’t that bad. Of course, we aren’t sure of that yet.

by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm just disgusted

Now our pitching has no real breathing room. They’ve got to step up EVERY game.

And no, that doesn’t mean calling up the immortal Eric Milton.

by silverwidow on May 7, 2009 10:04 AM PDT reply actions  

Loney and Martin have to step up:

No more hitting 0 combined home runs.

What do we call treating everyone equally when they are clearly not equal? Communism!

by Sordid on May 7, 2009 10:05 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

seriously

There’s no way they could both fall off a cliff like this. When they eventually pick it up, that should cover some of the lost production.

F*** You May 7th.

by the big grabowski on May 7, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Today was supposed to be about

how I asked Dr. Charles Steinberg how Journey’s “Don’t Stop Believin’” became the 8th inning anthem, and got an awesome 15-minute response.

by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 10:05 AM PDT reply actions  

It was epic

essentially, they stumbled across it as they loved the fan reaction and just rolled with it.

by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd still like to hear more about blogger night

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by bluemax on May 7, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, but Seriously,

Our offense is going to be pre-Manny Crappy again

"Chemistry is a class you take in high school or college, where you figure out two plus two is 10, or something."
- Dennis Rodman

by Shifty1 on May 7, 2009 10:08 AM PDT reply actions  

No way

Furcal, Hudson, and Blake are way better than Berroa, Kent, and Early-2008 Dewitt. Plus, Ethier and Kemp have gotten a lot better.

by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

We still should be pretty good, somewhere in the 4.5 runs per game area, maybe a little lower. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a huge loss. But it’s still a good team that should tread water for 50 games at least.

by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm pumped now, in a way.

I want the boys in blue to just decimate the teams remaining for this home stretch. Prove all the naysayers wrong and boost their own confidence.

Please don’t let me down.

by Dr. Geek on May 7, 2009 10:11 AM PDT reply actions  

That's what I was thinking too.

Especially the Giants. Oh my god a sweep against them would be so sweet.

by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Please let this be true.

It would make me love our team even more if they stepped up and played just as good.

by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hopefully the Nationals are good tonic for their confidence.

What do we call treating everyone equally when they are clearly not equal? Communism!

by Sordid on May 7, 2009 10:13 AM PDT reply actions  

It’s obvious what happened. Juan Pierre bribed Manny’s doctor to give him a banned substance. Damn you, Pierre!

Dodger Fever: Catch it every summer; head to the ER every October.

by Tango and Cash on May 7, 2009 10:14 AM PDT reply actions  

Lol

Laughs in tough times are always good.

by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

At least the Lakers won

I thought the biggest LA suspension news today would be Derek Fisher.

by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 10:15 AM PDT reply actions  

does anyone think Joe might...

put Orlando in the #3 slot, like Arizona did. He is our best hitter right noW

"Chemistry is a class you take in high school or college, where you figure out two plus two is 10, or something."
- Dennis Rodman

by Shifty1 on May 7, 2009 10:24 AM PDT reply actions  

Doubt it

Joe loves his L-R-L-R and his “rabbits” at the top.

by Jacob Burch on May 7, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also

it gives me Julio Lugo batting 3rd flashbacks, but O-Dog is better than that :)

by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

If pierre starts, he can bat 2nd.

Otherwise everyone moves up so Paul can bat 8th…

by MaxDSterling on May 7, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's not really a question

Pierre IS going to start. Paul might get a day here or there, but no way Torre uses anyone other than Pierre as the regular LF

by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I actually hope

Pierre still plays LF, rather than move to CF

by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think he will.

Kemp has looked great in CF so far. Hopefully Joe doesn’t outthink himself.

by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Colletti said last night he has been very impressed with Matt Kemp, especially with this CF defense so far this year, so I think you’re right.

by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

On the radio. I just hope Paul can at least get a few starts in.

by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh no, my friend

not just on the radio…to my face!!!

Among many other bloggers last night

by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Manny's option

Has anyone mentioned this yet? I think it could be a lock that he excercises it now for $20M.

by silverwidow on May 7, 2009 10:26 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah

it’s the “silver lining,” as Brendan mentioned

by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think this just adds to the baggage that everyone was scared of this past offseason.

by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Plus, the economy will be in the tank still

by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

It still only takes the Yankees.

BUt I doubt anyone else would sign him for $20 million now.

by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

For those of you able

do you mind giving as much information as possible on this board? I’m at work, and the only place I’m really getting news is here, so if there are any updates, if someone would be so kind…

by Michael White on May 7, 2009 10:28 AM PDT reply actions  

Update

I’m about to shoot myself.

by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry

This was a joke out of frustration, if that wasn’t clear. I’m not about to shoot myself. ;-)

by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sure

Here’s Manny’s statement, per ESPN:

Recently I saw a physician for a personal health issue. He gave me a medication, not a steroid, which he thought was OK to give me. Unfortunately, the medication was banned under our drug policy. Under the policy that mistake is now my responsibility. I have been advised not to say anything more for now. I do want to say one other thing; I’ve taken and passed about 15 drug tests over the past five seasons. I want to apologize to Mr. McCourt, Mrs. McCourt, Mr. Torre, my teammates, the Dodger organization, and to the Dodger fans. LA is a special place to me and I know everybody is disappointed. So am I. I’m sorry about this whole situation

by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Does anyone know

if Manny is allowed to workout everyday at Camelback Ranch?

by silverwidow on May 7, 2009 10:30 AM PDT reply actions  

I'll check

but I believe he can’t be at team facilities.

by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Here's a link

to the MLBPA release, which is mostly just the Manny statement.

This is a PDF file

by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 10:32 AM PDT reply actions  

Some positives

The dodgers save 8 million from the suspension…that’s money that they can use in july.

by DonutVT on May 7, 2009 10:33 AM PDT reply actions  

Or on dream fields.

Seriously though, is it from the salary we pay him this year or is it split between this year and the deferred salary? If it’s from this year, that means his total salary is $2 million in 2009! Who would have guessed that??

by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Remember, don't cut and paste entire stories (excerpt quotes are OK)

Here’s a link to the Yahoo story.

At least not on the baseball diamond. The source, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the substance is supposed to boost sex drive. It is not Viagra, but a substance that treats the cause rather providing a temporary boost in sexual performance, the source said

by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 10:37 AM PDT reply actions  

What?

How can you get suspended 50 games for that?

by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

No biggie

I wasn’t coming down on you or anything. Just out of respect to the authors their work deserves eyes on their site.

But I appreciated the info, that’s for sure :)

by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Plaschke has already turned?

What do we call treating everyone equally when they are clearly not equal? Communism!

by Sordid on May 7, 2009 10:40 AM PDT reply actions  

It's an amazing thing to watch, isn't it?

He’s a creature that should have his own National Geographic of Discovery Channel special

by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

The disgust in his voice

Was disgusting. A man he probably cheered for last night is now nothing to him.

by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Vince Coleman in 1993

per the NY Times:

Instead of playing baseball like a firecracker, Vince Coleman tossed a firecracker near a group of fans outside Dodger Stadium after Saturday afternoon’s game. The burst reportedly injured a 1-year-old girl’s eye, cheek and finger, an 11-year-old boy’s leg and a 33-year-old woman’s eardrum

by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow

That’s crazy. Pretty descriptive with the injuries.

by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why couldn't he just take something herbal?

Not that I’m into that or anything, but I’m sure GNC has that stuff.

by silverwidow on May 7, 2009 10:44 AM PDT reply actions  

At least now

the Dodgers have another Journey song to play when Manny comes back:

Open Arms

by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 10:52 AM PDT reply actions  

bah, stupid refresh.

didn’t see that someone already linked it.

by MaxDSterling on May 7, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

So much for Mannywood. Suck it LOLger scum!

I was excited when we signed Barry Zito

by jhiat00 on May 7, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are Giant Fans the Biggest Hypocrites in the World?

What do we call treating everyone equally when they are clearly not equal? Communism!

by Sordid on May 7, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

We will still hand you your Juan the bat Marisal

And what-up with that Arron Rolands Stance at the plate, they got restrooms at your stadium don’t they.

Paul D. Kelley

by so.cal.native1952 on May 7, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Classy comment.

It will be even better when we beat the Giants this weekend.

by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Everyone mark your calendars for Friday July 3 at San Diego

we may have to do a True Blue LA road trip outing. That is the first game Manny will be eligible to play, assuming he doesn’t appeal.

by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 10:57 AM PDT reply actions  

He's not appealing

No link but they said it on ESPN.

I’d be up for a road trip outing.

by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

He won't appeal.

What do we call treating everyone equally when they are clearly not equal? Communism!

by Sordid on May 7, 2009 10:57 AM PDT reply actions  

July 4th weekend in San Diego?

I’m way down. I’ll try to get The Redhead to come as well

by Jacob Burch on May 7, 2009 11:01 AM PDT reply actions  

he took female fertility drugs...

"Chemistry is a class you take in high school or college, where you figure out two plus two is 10, or something."
- Dennis Rodman

by Shifty1 on May 7, 2009 11:02 AM PDT reply actions  

I heard it on Espn

"Chemistry is a class you take in high school or college, where you figure out two plus two is 10, or something."
- Dennis Rodman

by Shifty1 on May 7, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Something about "naturally"recovering something

"Chemistry is a class you take in high school or college, where you figure out two plus two is 10, or something."
- Dennis Rodman

by Shifty1 on May 7, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

steroid users use it

"Chemistry is a class you take in high school or college, where you figure out two plus two is 10, or something."
- Dennis Rodman

by Shifty1 on May 7, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

yup, they use it to produce testosterone

he was on roids

"Chemistry is a class you take in high school or college, where you figure out two plus two is 10, or something."
- Dennis Rodman

by Shifty1 on May 7, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Perhaps we should root for more Manny news like this

Yesterday at True Blue LA, before Manny news, we set a True Blue LA daily record with 2,901 unique views and 5,253 total page views.

This morning, in only the 2-hour period from 9am to 11am, we had 3,871 unique visitors and 5,525 total page views. Wow.

by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 11:04 AM PDT reply actions  

BREAKING NEWS

Juan Pierre suspended because he didn’t meet the MLB minimum weight requirement. More details to come.

by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

No way

They’ll just treat him like a jockey and make him put weights on

by Michael White on May 7, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ha!

My jockey joke was first! :)

by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Weird

It’s second on my computer. My computer must not like you or something.

by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Actually

If you refresh your page, you will see that SBNation believes I got the joke in first.

by Michael White on May 7, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

You are correct

Very weird, this SB Nation, sometimes

by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

So its not just my computer!

I knew Eric was cheating all along. I’ll report you to Bud.

by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Would reporters be jockeying for position at that conference?

by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

more breaking news

Delwyn young traded back to the dodgers 2 tickets to mannywood

by Rutgers Dodger fan on May 7, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

ya, ill get one of these eventually..

i was more angry that i didnt get to see much of the game last night cuz i had an 8am final this morning

by Rutgers Dodger fan on May 7, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t worry it’s perfectly normal for LA fans only to watch innings 3-6.

I was excited when we signed Barry Zito

by jhiat00 on May 7, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Original, never heard that joke before

It should be noted the fan above lives in New Jersey, but whatev

by Michael White on May 7, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Actually I live in AZ whose fans are known to be just as apathetic as LA

I was excited when we signed Barry Zito

by jhiat00 on May 7, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was talking about Rutgers Dodger fan

saying its understandable that a person living in New Jersey didn’t get to see much of a game which started at 10pm their time, considering a final the next morning

by Michael White on May 7, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Step 1

This is a verbal warning.

Stop being a troll, or you will be banned

by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

typical Least Coaster

"Chemistry is a class you take in high school or college, where you figure out two plus two is 10, or something."
- Dennis Rodman

by Shifty1 on May 7, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

He used HGG

Female fertility drug that boosts testosterone production, per ESPN. Basically, it has similiar effects to steroids.

by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 11:08 AM PDT reply actions  

More importantly

There will be 83 games left in the season when Manny returns. He has 20 RBI. Does Manny get his 100 RBI? He needs 80 in 83 games.

Since joining the Dodgers, he has 83 RBI in 88 games, including playoffs

by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 11:09 AM PDT reply actions  

So Manny tested positive for a masking agent.

What do we call treating everyone equally when they are clearly not equal? Communism!

by Sordid on May 7, 2009 11:11 AM PDT reply actions  

From the ESPN article

per Amy K. Nelson:

“I think most guys will trust a physician, right or wrong,” one major league strength coach told ESPN.com’s Amy K. Nelson. “I always emphasize to our players, minor league Latin players especially, don’t take anything unless a team doctor gives it to you. A team doctor.”

by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 11:13 AM PDT reply actions  

any chance...

the dodgers use the 7.7 million they save here on getting an arm like pedro?
I wouldnt mind pedro at around 2.5 mil

by Rutgers Dodger fan on May 7, 2009 11:16 AM PDT reply actions  

I'd like Odalis Perez over him.

But maybe they can get someone better than both of them in a salary dump now.

by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Erik Bedard!

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by bluemax on May 7, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good time for Arod to debut this weekend with all the heat off of him.

by meercatjohn on May 7, 2009 11:21 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, that was no coincidence

"Chemistry is a class you take in high school or college, where you figure out two plus two is 10, or something."
- Dennis Rodman

by Shifty1 on May 7, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Barry Zito said

“Manny is gone for 50 games. It’s time for the Giants to capitalize.”

"Chemistry is a class you take in high school or college, where you figure out two plus two is 10, or something."
- Dennis Rodman

by Shifty1 on May 7, 2009 11:25 AM PDT reply actions  

did he add

“…by removing me from the starting rotation.” ? :)

by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

LoL

"Chemistry is a class you take in high school or college, where you figure out two plus two is 10, or something."
- Dennis Rodman

by Shifty1 on May 7, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

At least this should cut down on Ethier’s double plays.

by meercatjohn on May 7, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lol

Let’s hammer him on Friday.

by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I guess I’m supposed to be mad or upset but for some reason I find the whole thing kind of funny. I can certainly understand Giant fans having a big laugh.

What actually amazes me is that MLB was so above board on this and didn’t try to sweep it under the table.

by meercatjohn on May 7, 2009 11:26 AM PDT reply actions  

The Beard will hit higher than 8th now

That’s what I’m guessing.

I guess the X-Man becomes our new Eyechart, but will actually play some LF every now and then.

by silverwidow on May 7, 2009 11:30 AM PDT reply actions  

FYI – Ned has two scouts checking out Milton today. He had two scouts check him out his last start, so he’s using four scouts before making up his mind.

by meercatjohn on May 7, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think Ned has a lot more to worry about right now

Going from Stults to Milton will have a negative impact, but nothing compared to Manny to Pierre.

by silverwidow on May 7, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

No doubt, just thought you’d be interested.

by meercatjohn on May 7, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Here goes:

Furcal
Pierre
Hudson
Ethier
Loney
Martin
Kemp
Blake
Pitcher

by Dr. Geek on May 7, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sure

Furcal
Hudson
Ethier
Blake
Loney
Martin
Kemp
Pierre
Pitcher

by silverwidow on May 7, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

furcal
hudson
Ethier
Kemp
Loney
Blake
Martin
Pierre
pitcher

by Rutgers Dodger fan on May 7, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

What do you all think?

In an ideal world, Xavier Paul becomes Shane Victorino. Is that a good comp?

by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 11:41 AM PDT reply actions  

I think Alyssa Milano

has an interesting point when she tweets that maybe players should only be allowed to see MLB approved doctors with more knowledge of the banned substance lists.

You would think that everytime a player gets caught taking taking these things and then goes out to blame the doctor, it would bring us closer to that solution. Why wouldn’t MLB go to the players and say okay guys, most of you have your own personal physicians, we’d just like send them all a list of our banned substances, then test them on the material for certification, if they pass they keep seeing them, however if they fail then you should be using your own team doctor who should know this crap..

by EdfromAZ on May 7, 2009 11:45 AM PDT reply actions  

Unless

The players are just using their doctors as excuses to take the blame off of themselves.

by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

As long as Alyssa is looking me in the eyes I’ll agree with everything she says.

by meercatjohn on May 7, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

How about

Furcal
Hudson
Ethier
Kemp
Loney
Martin
Blake
Pitcher
Pierre

by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 11:45 AM PDT reply actions  

Ditto.

Though, really, Kemp should have been batting higher from the get-go.

by Dr. Geek on May 7, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Paul is going to be happy going from 30,000 to 400,000.

by meercatjohn on May 7, 2009 11:47 AM PDT reply actions  

How does that work?

Does he get that bump just for getting called up? Or is there a minum of something or other?

by Michael White on May 7, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Every young player signs split contracts in spring training

with a minor league salary and a major league one (the minimum in Paul’s case). He’ll get a prorated share of 400K for his time in the bigs.

by silverwidow on May 7, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

plus just one day on the major league roster he gets full medical benefits for everyone in his family for the year.

by meercatjohn on May 7, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kemp will not hit cleanup

in Torre’s lineups.

I’m pretty sure it’ll be Blake.

by silverwidow on May 7, 2009 11:48 AM PDT reply actions  

Interesting that you jumped him from 8th to 4th but you might be right. I think it will be Loney but I could see Joe putting Blake there.

by meercatjohn on May 7, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

The only reason Blake batted 8th

is because Joe didn’t want a young guy in front of the pitcher. Now that Pierre will play everyday, he can fill that spot.

by silverwidow on May 7, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

what did the lineups look like when manny took a day off?

by Rutgers Dodger fan on May 7, 2009 11:53 AM PDT reply actions  

Pierre usually led off

but Furcal wasn’t in the games either I believe.

by silverwidow on May 7, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

All i'm going to say is...

…that it’s weird he would take hCG as a steroid user. Especially if he was dumb enough to get it through prescription.

I don’t get exactly why he wouldn’t use or test positive for nolvadex or clomid instead, hCG is only advantageous if you want to boost testosterone production earlier before you start PCT.

Don’t believe this bullshit that hCG and clomid are the same. They are not.

by Chad Moriyama on May 7, 2009 12:39 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't want to be a drama queen but,

I’m just crushed. I always made a point to never really get attached to Manny, but it just feels like all the good vibes from last season and now this season now have a big nasty stain on them. We have all been waiting for a loooooong time for this team to get really good and now that they finally have….this happens.

I haven’t been posting on game threads for the last few days because I’ve been at every game on the homestand. This is the first year I have ever had season tickets. I’ve been on cloud nine for days now, and then this.

To make it worse, all of my old navy buddies, co-workers, friends, family (cousins and stuff) all know that I’m the “Dodger Guy”. My phone has not stopped ringing all day. I’m sure you guys are going through similar crap. I’m just so pissed at Manny I can’t stand it.

I considered not even going to tonight’s game and my wife convinced me to. “Russell, Andre, James, and Matt did’nt do anything wrong so you should go cheer for them.” So I’m going tonight and I’m going to cheer my ass off for those guys.

by CerroGordo on May 7, 2009 1:58 PM PDT reply actions  

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2012 Dodgers Payroll

Italics denote estimates
Pos No Player 2012 Salary
C 17 Ellis $500,000 team control
1B 7 Loney $6,375,000
2B 14 Ellis $2,500,000
3B 5 Uribe $8,000,000
SS 9 Gordon $485,000 team control
LF 21 Rivera $4,000,000
CF 27 Kemp $10,000,000
RF 16 Ethier $10,950,000

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SP 58 Billingsley $9,000,000
SP 29 Lilly $12,000,000
SP 35 Capuano $3,000,000
SP 44
Harang $3,000,000

CL 54 Guerra $485,000 team control
RHP 74
Jansen $500,000 team control
RHP 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
RHP 60 Coffey $1,000,000
RHP 66 MacDougal $650,000
LHP 57 Elbert $485,000 team control
RHP 36
Hawksworth $500,000 team control

TJ 41 De La Rosa $485,000 team control



Manny $8,087,432 deferred


Andruw $3,375,000 deferred


Pierre $3,050,000 deferred
Furcal $3,000,000 deferred
Kuroda $2,000,000 deferred
Garland $1,500,000 option buyout
Blake $1,250,000 option buyout

Totals
$112,162,432

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Current 40-man roster count: 40
(not including Belisario)

2012 Non-Roster Invitees

No Player Age*
63 Jose Ascanio rhp
27
61 Alberto Castillo lhp
36
56 Matt Chico lhp
29
33 John Grabow lhp
33
59 Angel Guzman rhp
30
47 Wil Ledezma lhp
31
72 Shane Lindsay rhp
27
62 Fernando Nieve rhp 29
73 Scott Rice lhp 30
70 Will Savage rhp
27
71 Ryan Tucker rhp
25
28 Jamey Wright rhp
37

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82 Griff Erickson c 24
81 Matt Wallachc 26
67 Jeff Baisley 3b/1b 29
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37 Josh Fields 3b 29
64 Lance Zawadzki if 27
56 Cory Sullivan of 32

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