Manny Ramirez: The Day We Stopped Believin'
Last night was Blogger Night at Dodger Stadium, and I was all set to write a post about how great the night was, and how open the Josh Rawitch and the Dodgers are to new media. The club has the best record in baseball, and has not lost at home all season.
What could possibly go wrong???
Well, Manny Ramirez getting suspended for 50 games is probably on the high end of the spectrum of worst things that could have happened.
If you want a silver lining, the Dodgers do have a 6½ game lead in the division, and no other NL West club has really shown anything so far this season. Will the Dodgers still be in first place when Manny returns in 50 games?
I say yes.
Xavier Paul will be recalled for tonight's game against Washington.
Update: Manny Quote
Recently I saw a physician for a personal health issue. He gave me a medication, not a steroid, which he thought was OK to give me. Unfortunately, the medication was banned under our drug policy. Under the policy that mistake is now my responsibility. I have been advised not to say anything more for now. I do want to say one other thing; I’ve taken and passed about 15 drug tests over the past five seasons. I want to apologize to Mr. McCourt, Mrs. McCourt, Mr. Torre, my teammates, the Dodger organization, and to the Dodger fans. LA is a special place to me and I know everybody is disappointed. So am I. I’m sorry about this whole situation
UPDATE: I believe I've found the exact moment when the Dodgers' fortunes turned for the worst:
Evidently Manny was trying to prepare for a night with the family below:
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Wow
Not the start to the morning I was looking for.
Weaver On Acid: 1/2 oz Jagermeister, 1/2 oz Malibu coconut rum, 1/2 oz pineapple juice
by the big grabowski on May 7, 2009 9:40 AM PDT reply actions
"Xavier Paul will be recalled for tonight's game against Washington."
Wow, you got that info quick. It saved us from having to worry about Repko coming up, or something off the wall like bringing up Dewitt to play third and moving Blake to left.
Dewitt to 3B and Blake and left
Might be better than Blake at 3B and Pierre in left.
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by the big grabowski on May 7, 2009 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions
I would agree
But it would be, Pierre in left for 5 days, and 1-2 starts a week for Dewitt—- if the above scenario played out.
by Michael White on May 7, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Still better than Pierre all the time
Unless you mean that Dewitt comes up in place of XPaul, so the downside is he doens’t get a chance at all.
F*** You May 7th.
by the big grabowski on May 7, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
That I disagree with
I still think the best place for Dewitt is AAA, not sitting on our bench for several days on end. Then again, I guess the same could be said about Paul. Oh well, I guess I don’t really know what I’m saying…
by Michael White on May 7, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Paul's older though
perhaps he’s already “ripe”
by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
per ESPN - Manny's statement
Recently I saw a physician for a personal health issue. He gave me a medication, not a steroid, which he thought was OK to give me," Ramirez said. "Unfortunately, the medication was banned under our drug policy. Under the policy that mistake is now my responsibility. I have been advised not to say anything more for now.
“I do want to say one other thing; I’ve taken and passed about 15 drug tests over the past five seasons. I want to apologize to [Dodgers owner Frank] McCourt, Mrs. McCourt, [manager Joe] Torre, my teammates, the Dodger organization, and to the Dodger fans. LA is a special place to me and I know everybody is disappointed. So am I. I’m sorry about this whole situation.”
little blue pill?
haha
No remember Rafael Palmeiro endorsed the little blue pill. I mean how can that thing make you better at baseball?
by Seanny Rotten on May 7, 2009 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions
They'll straddle .500 for those fifty games.
Unless the guys NOT banned use this as motivation to prove the critics that claim LA is nothing without Manny wrong.
But I can understand if morale is especially low at Dodger stadium.
Tough break
I’m glad the NL West is not decided as some have said now. But I’m very sad to see another MLB icon disgraced with this black mark. Whether it was indeed an incompetent doctor or just Manny being lazy and not checking it first, it’s not good for baseball. Who’s left now? Pujols?
The Rockies will sneak up on you. ;-) 3rd in the NL in FIP and wOBA the last 12 games…it’s coming together
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on May 7, 2009 9:42 AM PDT reply actions
It's a conspiracy
F*** You May 7th.
by the big grabowski on May 7, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
haha
Gotta mix things up. And today needed a special one.
Stupid May 7th. When the hell did anything good happen on this day. Never, that’s when.
F*** You May 7th.
by the big grabowski on May 7, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Took this off of BTF
Will Carroll Tweet
Ok this is big … Manny was suspended under 8.G.2 of the JDA. That’s “other” and at Commish’s discretion. http://bit.ly/a7Kq0
What does that mean?
He was suspended under for a drug from the “Other” section?
F*** You May 7th.
by the big grabowski on May 7, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Longer Will Carroll statement.
UPDATE 3: Ramirez’s statement issued through the MLBPA indicates that Ramirez will not appeal his suspension and that he received the banned substance from a doctor. Ramirez was suspended under section 8.G.2 of the Joint Drug Agreement, which is "other." In his statement, there’s no clear statement that Ramirez ever tested positive. Combined, those two facts point to a non-testable drug, but this is not confirmed. The only other known 8.G.2 suspension was Jordan Schaefer.
G. Other Violations
1. For purposes of the penalties in Sections 8.B and 8.C above, a positive test result reported prior to the first 2006 spring training voluntary reporting date shall not be considered in determining the number of times that a Player has tested positive under the Program.
2. A Player may be subjected to disciplinary action for just cause by the Commissioner for any Player violation of Section 2 above not referenced in Section 8.A through 8.F above.
"At the Commisioner's discretion"
So that means Bud Selig looked at the evidence and said “yes we’ll suspend him.” Instead of Manny violating a rule with a set punishment? At least that’s what it sounds like.
F*** You May 7th.
by the big grabowski on May 7, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Please don't put this on me.
Don’t even put this on me. This is above me.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Can I freak out right now?
It’s early in the season, but can I officially pull my hair out?
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Dave has not had a good string of predictions so far this season
Paris Hilton, Burberry plaid, reality TV, mullets, Zima, Dubya, and the Sonics being sold to Oklahoma City. - Yahoo Answer results for "7 Signs of the Apocalypse"
I blame Kirk Cameron.
Just ’cause.
F*** You May 7th.
by the big grabowski on May 7, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
I can't begin to imagine Giants Fans Glee.
What do we call treating everyone equally when they are clearly not equal? Communism!
Unfortunately
I don’t have to imagine it. The text messages are raining down on my phone as we speak. :-(
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes
And sick minds.
Does this at least mean Manny won’t opt out after this year?
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't know who else would give him a 20 million contract next year.
What do we call treating everyone equally when they are clearly not equal? Communism!
Well that would be the silver lining then.
If it means we get an extra year of Manny, it ain’t that bad. Of course, we aren’t sure of that yet.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm just disgusted
Now our pitching has no real breathing room. They’ve got to step up EVERY game.
And no, that doesn’t mean calling up the immortal Eric Milton.
Loney and Martin have to step up:
No more hitting 0 combined home runs.
What do we call treating everyone equally when they are clearly not equal? Communism!
by Sordid on May 7, 2009 10:05 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
seriously
There’s no way they could both fall off a cliff like this. When they eventually pick it up, that should cover some of the lost production.
F*** You May 7th.
by the big grabowski on May 7, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Today was supposed to be about
how I asked Dr. Charles Steinberg how Journey’s “Don’t Stop Believin’” became the 8th inning anthem, and got an awesome 15-minute response.
It was epic
essentially, they stumbled across it as they loved the fan reaction and just rolled with it.
by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Are you going to have a longer write up about the event?
Or is it on hold cause of the more pressing news.
F*** You May 7th.
by the big grabowski on May 7, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd still like to hear more about blogger night
Paris Hilton, Burberry plaid, reality TV, mullets, Zima, Dubya, and the Sonics being sold to Oklahoma City. - Yahoo Answer results for "7 Signs of the Apocalypse"
No, but Seriously,
Our offense is going to be pre-Manny Crappy again
"Chemistry is a class you take in high school or college, where you figure out two plus two is 10, or something."
- Dennis Rodman
No way
Furcal, Hudson, and Blake are way better than Berroa, Kent, and Early-2008 Dewitt. Plus, Ethier and Kemp have gotten a lot better.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
We still should be pretty good, somewhere in the 4.5 runs per game area, maybe a little lower. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a huge loss. But it’s still a good team that should tread water for 50 games at least.
by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm pumped now, in a way.
I want the boys in blue to just decimate the teams remaining for this home stretch. Prove all the naysayers wrong and boost their own confidence.
Please don’t let me down.
That's what I was thinking too.
Especially the Giants. Oh my god a sweep against them would be so sweet.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Please let this be true.
It would make me love our team even more if they stepped up and played just as good.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Hopefully the Nationals are good tonic for their confidence.
What do we call treating everyone equally when they are clearly not equal? Communism!
I still think we should win today.
At the very least.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s obvious what happened. Juan Pierre bribed Manny’s doctor to give him a banned substance. Damn you, Pierre!
Dodger Fever: Catch it every summer; head to the ER every October.
Lol
Laughs in tough times are always good.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
And my first trip to DS
On Memorial Day will be a Manny-less experience…
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
My friend and I are going to the game tonigt
He is in the Navy and this is the only game he’ll get to see all year. And it’s the day Manny is suspended.
F*** You May 7th.
by the big grabowski on May 7, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
does anyone think Joe might...
put Orlando in the #3 slot, like Arizona did. He is our best hitter right noW
"Chemistry is a class you take in high school or college, where you figure out two plus two is 10, or something."
- Dennis Rodman
Also
it gives me Julio Lugo batting 3rd flashbacks, but O-Dog is better than that :)
by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
If pierre starts, he can bat 2nd.
Otherwise everyone moves up so Paul can bat 8th…
by MaxDSterling on May 7, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
It's not really a question
Pierre IS going to start. Paul might get a day here or there, but no way Torre uses anyone other than Pierre as the regular LF
by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
I actually hope
Pierre still plays LF, rather than move to CF
by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
I think he will.
Kemp has looked great in CF so far. Hopefully Joe doesn’t outthink himself.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Colletti said last night he has been very impressed with Matt Kemp, especially with this CF defense so far this year, so I think you’re right.
by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
On the radio. I just hope Paul can at least get a few starts in.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh no, my friend
not just on the radio…to my face!!!
Among many other bloggers last night
by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Manny's option
Has anyone mentioned this yet? I think it could be a lock that he excercises it now for $20M.
Yeah
it’s the “silver lining,” as Brendan mentioned
by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
I think this just adds to the baggage that everyone was scared of this past offseason.
by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Plus, the economy will be in the tank still
by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
It still only takes the Yankees.
BUt I doubt anyone else would sign him for $20 million now.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
For those of you able
do you mind giving as much information as possible on this board? I’m at work, and the only place I’m really getting news is here, so if there are any updates, if someone would be so kind…
Sorry
This was a joke out of frustration, if that wasn’t clear. I’m not about to shoot myself. ;-)
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Sure
Here’s Manny’s statement, per ESPN:
Recently I saw a physician for a personal health issue. He gave me a medication, not a steroid, which he thought was OK to give me. Unfortunately, the medication was banned under our drug policy. Under the policy that mistake is now my responsibility. I have been advised not to say anything more for now. I do want to say one other thing; I’ve taken and passed about 15 drug tests over the past five seasons. I want to apologize to Mr. McCourt, Mrs. McCourt, Mr. Torre, my teammates, the Dodger organization, and to the Dodger fans. LA is a special place to me and I know everybody is disappointed. So am I. I’m sorry about this whole situation
by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Bill Plashcke just said he's sick of Manny on ESPN.
What a tool.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 10:29 AM PDT reply actions
At least we know which way the wind is blowing
by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
If he tries to drive Manny out of LA
I will hate him even more, if possible.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
I'll check
but I believe he can’t be at team facilities.
by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Some positives
The dodgers save 8 million from the suspension…that’s money that they can use in july.
Or on dream fields.
Seriously though, is it from the salary we pay him this year or is it split between this year and the deferred salary? If it’s from this year, that means his total salary is $2 million in 2009! Who would have guessed that??
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Another positive...
Mannys sample
Minor White > Ansel Adams
by say hey nation on May 7, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Remember, don't cut and paste entire stories (excerpt quotes are OK)
Here’s a link to the Yahoo story.
At least not on the baseball diamond. The source, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the substance is supposed to boost sex drive. It is not Viagra, but a substance that treats the cause rather providing a temporary boost in sexual performance, the source said
What?
How can you get suspended 50 games for that?
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
"Remember, don't cut and paste entire stories (excerpt quotes are OK)"
Thanks for the heads-up. I was unaware of this policy.
No biggie
I wasn’t coming down on you or anything. Just out of respect to the authors their work deserves eyes on their site.
But I appreciated the info, that’s for sure :)
by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Plaschke has already turned?
What do we call treating everyone equally when they are clearly not equal? Communism!
Plasche turned a long time ago my friend
by Bluetrek on May 7, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's an amazing thing to watch, isn't it?
He’s a creature that should have his own National Geographic of Discovery Channel special
by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
The disgust in his voice
Was disgusting. A man he probably cheered for last night is now nothing to him.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Vince Coleman in 1993
per the NY Times:
Instead of playing baseball like a firecracker, Vince Coleman tossed a firecracker near a group of fans outside Dodger Stadium after Saturday afternoon’s game. The burst reportedly injured a 1-year-old girl’s eye, cheek and finger, an 11-year-old boy’s leg and a 33-year-old woman’s eardrum
by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Wow
That’s crazy. Pretty descriptive with the injuries.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Seems weird to me because it makes me think-
- just WTF were you two thinking!?
if you check out MLB Banned drugs
It could be anything from a stimulate to a sleeping disorder, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Baseball_drug_policy
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on May 7, 2009 10:42 AM PDT reply actions
Why couldn't he just take something herbal?
Not that I’m into that or anything, but I’m sure GNC has that stuff.
Breaking News
Manny tested positive for a sexual enhancer (not Viagra) according to Tim Brown and Steve Henson of Yahoo, although I don’t see it in the article linked there.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ys-ramirezsuspension050709&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Is Ned Colleti on the radio right now?
What do we call treating everyone equally when they are clearly not equal? Communism!
Shaun Assael is on ESPN right now.
Interesting name.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 10:49 AM PDT reply actions
Yah that guy sounds so Richest
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on May 7, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
bah, stupid refresh.
didn’t see that someone already linked it.
by MaxDSterling on May 7, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
So much for Mannywood. Suck it LOLger scum!
I was excited when we signed Barry Zito
Are Giant Fans the Biggest Hypocrites in the World?
What do we call treating everyone equally when they are clearly not equal? Communism!
We will still hand you your Juan the bat Marisal
And what-up with that Arron Rolands Stance at the plate, they got restrooms at your stadium don’t they.
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on May 7, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Classy comment.
It will be even better when we beat the Giants this weekend.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
For the first time in my life
I wish there was more Brett Farve news.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 10:56 AM PDT reply actions
Everyone mark your calendars for Friday July 3 at San Diego
we may have to do a True Blue LA road trip outing. That is the first game Manny will be eligible to play, assuming he doesn’t appeal.
pretty sure the front office told manny to eat this one.
he’d get back what? 10 games? maybe?
by MaxDSterling on May 7, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
He's not appealing
No link but they said it on ESPN.
I’d be up for a road trip outing.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
He won't appeal.
What do we call treating everyone equally when they are clearly not equal? Communism!
he took female fertility drugs...
"Chemistry is a class you take in high school or college, where you figure out two plus two is 10, or something."
- Dennis Rodman
I heard it on Espn
"Chemistry is a class you take in high school or college, where you figure out two plus two is 10, or something."
- Dennis Rodman
Gets him an 8-week vacation
so he can score more tail :)
by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Something about "naturally"recovering something
"Chemistry is a class you take in high school or college, where you figure out two plus two is 10, or something."
- Dennis Rodman
steroid users use it
"Chemistry is a class you take in high school or college, where you figure out two plus two is 10, or something."
- Dennis Rodman
yup, they use it to produce testosterone
he was on roids
"Chemistry is a class you take in high school or college, where you figure out two plus two is 10, or something."
- Dennis Rodman
Perhaps we should root for more Manny news like this
Yesterday at True Blue LA, before Manny news, we set a True Blue LA daily record with 2,901 unique views and 5,253 total page views.
This morning, in only the 2-hour period from 9am to 11am, we had 3,871 unique visitors and 5,525 total page views. Wow.
BREAKING NEWS
Juan Pierre suspended because he didn’t meet the MLB minimum weight requirement. More details to come.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
No way
They’ll just treat him like a jockey and make him put weights on
by Michael White on May 7, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Weird
It’s second on my computer. My computer must not like you or something.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Actually
If you refresh your page, you will see that SBNation believes I got the joke in first.
by Michael White on May 7, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
You are correct
Very weird, this SB Nation, sometimes
by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
So its not just my computer!
I knew Eric was cheating all along. I’ll report you to Bud.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Would reporters be jockeying for position at that conference?
by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
more breaking news
Delwyn young traded back to the dodgers 2 tickets to mannywood
by Rutgers Dodger fan on May 7, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
ya, ill get one of these eventually..
i was more angry that i didnt get to see much of the game last night cuz i had an 8am final this morning
by Rutgers Dodger fan on May 7, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Don’t worry it’s perfectly normal for LA fans only to watch innings 3-6.
I was excited when we signed Barry Zito
Original, never heard that joke before
It should be noted the fan above lives in New Jersey, but whatev
by Michael White on May 7, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Actually I live in AZ whose fans are known to be just as apathetic as LA
I was excited when we signed Barry Zito
I was talking about Rutgers Dodger fan
saying its understandable that a person living in New Jersey didn’t get to see much of a game which started at 10pm their time, considering a final the next morning
by Michael White on May 7, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Step 1
This is a verbal warning.
Stop being a troll, or you will be banned
by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
typical Least Coaster
"Chemistry is a class you take in high school or college, where you figure out two plus two is 10, or something."
- Dennis Rodman
He used HGG
Female fertility drug that boosts testosterone production, per ESPN. Basically, it has similiar effects to steroids.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 11:08 AM PDT reply actions
HCG?
I can’t really tell what they called it.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
More importantly
There will be 83 games left in the season when Manny returns. He has 20 RBI. Does Manny get his 100 RBI? He needs 80 in 83 games.
Since joining the Dodgers, he has 83 RBI in 88 games, including playoffs
So Manny tested positive for a masking agent.
What do we call treating everyone equally when they are clearly not equal? Communism!
From the ESPN article
per Amy K. Nelson:
“I think most guys will trust a physician, right or wrong,” one major league strength coach told ESPN.com’s Amy K. Nelson. “I always emphasize to our players, minor league Latin players especially, don’t take anything unless a team doctor gives it to you. A team doctor.”
any chance...
the dodgers use the 7.7 million they save here on getting an arm like pedro?
I wouldnt mind pedro at around 2.5 mil
by Rutgers Dodger fan on May 7, 2009 11:16 AM PDT reply actions
I'd like Odalis Perez over him.
But maybe they can get someone better than both of them in a salary dump now.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Odailis Perez+Jeff Weaver
That would be weird, would I get to go back to college too?
by Michael White on May 7, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Erik Bedard!
Paris Hilton, Burberry plaid, reality TV, mullets, Zima, Dubya, and the Sonics being sold to Oklahoma City. - Yahoo Answer results for "7 Signs of the Apocalypse"
Yeah, that was no coincidence
"Chemistry is a class you take in high school or college, where you figure out two plus two is 10, or something."
- Dennis Rodman
Barry Zito said
“Manny is gone for 50 games. It’s time for the Giants to capitalize.”
"Chemistry is a class you take in high school or college, where you figure out two plus two is 10, or something."
- Dennis Rodman
did he add
“…by removing me from the starting rotation.” ? :)
by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
The Beard will hit higher than 8th now
That’s what I’m guessing.
I guess the X-Man becomes our new Eyechart, but will actually play some LF every now and then.
FYI – Ned has two scouts checking out Milton today. He had two scouts check him out his last start, so he’s using four scouts before making up his mind.
I think Ned has a lot more to worry about right now
Going from Stults to Milton will have a negative impact, but nothing compared to Manny to Pierre.
According to Bowa manny isn't that buffed
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on May 7, 2009 11:36 AM PDT reply actions
Here goes:
Furcal
Pierre
Hudson
Ethier
Loney
Martin
Kemp
Blake
Pitcher
Oh, I agree.
But I am going based on Torre’s previous line-ups.
furcal
hudson
Ethier
Kemp
Loney
Blake
Martin
Pierre
pitcher
by Rutgers Dodger fan on May 7, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
What do you all think?
In an ideal world, Xavier Paul becomes Shane Victorino. Is that a good comp?
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 11:41 AM PDT reply actions
I think Alyssa Milano
has an interesting point when she tweets that maybe players should only be allowed to see MLB approved doctors with more knowledge of the banned substance lists.
You would think that everytime a player gets caught taking taking these things and then goes out to blame the doctor, it would bring us closer to that solution. Why wouldn’t MLB go to the players and say okay guys, most of you have your own personal physicians, we’d just like send them all a list of our banned substances, then test them on the material for certification, if they pass they keep seeing them, however if they fail then you should be using your own team doctor who should know this crap..
Unless
The players are just using their doctors as excuses to take the blame off of themselves.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
How about
Furcal
Hudson
Ethier
Kemp
Loney
Martin
Blake
Pitcher
Pierre
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 11:45 AM PDT reply actions
How does that work?
Does he get that bump just for getting called up? Or is there a minum of something or other?
by Michael White on May 7, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Every young player signs split contracts in spring training
with a minor league salary and a major league one (the minimum in Paul’s case). He’ll get a prorated share of 400K for his time in the bigs.
Interesting that you jumped him from 8th to 4th but you might be right. I think it will be Loney but I could see Joe putting Blake there.
The only reason Blake batted 8th
is because Joe didn’t want a young guy in front of the pitcher. Now that Pierre will play everyday, he can fill that spot.
what did the lineups look like when manny took a day off?
by Rutgers Dodger fan on May 7, 2009 11:53 AM PDT reply actions
For some reason
Comments aren’t working in that thread, at least for me.
by Brendan Scolari on May 7, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Mein Gott! Manny Pees Poorly, But Dodgers Rule
http://www.truebluela.com/2009/5/7/868304/mein-gott-manny-pees-poorly-but
All i'm going to say is...
…that it’s weird he would take hCG as a steroid user. Especially if he was dumb enough to get it through prescription.
I don’t get exactly why he wouldn’t use or test positive for nolvadex or clomid instead, hCG is only advantageous if you want to boost testosterone production earlier before you start PCT.
Don’t believe this bullshit that hCG and clomid are the same. They are not.
I don't want to be a drama queen but,
I’m just crushed. I always made a point to never really get attached to Manny, but it just feels like all the good vibes from last season and now this season now have a big nasty stain on them. We have all been waiting for a loooooong time for this team to get really good and now that they finally have….this happens.
I haven’t been posting on game threads for the last few days because I’ve been at every game on the homestand. This is the first year I have ever had season tickets. I’ve been on cloud nine for days now, and then this.
To make it worse, all of my old navy buddies, co-workers, friends, family (cousins and stuff) all know that I’m the “Dodger Guy”. My phone has not stopped ringing all day. I’m sure you guys are going through similar crap. I’m just so pissed at Manny I can’t stand it.
I considered not even going to tonight’s game and my wife convinced me to. “Russell, Andre, James, and Matt did’nt do anything wrong so you should go cheer for them.” So I’m going tonight and I’m going to cheer my ass off for those guys.

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