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Manny Ramirez - Dodger Blog Style

Going from last night when my biggest concern was the playing of God Bless America during the 7th inning stretch to today, it is a good idea to see what our Dodger blogs have to say.

Jon Weisman shares his feelings on Manny

I feel that this is one of the many imperfect things that happens in an imperfect sport. Everyone and everything that I love is flawed. I get frustrated, annoyed, angry, depressed. Over time, I love some a little less, others the same despite it all.

Kensai of FNC gives updates and opinions on the chemical side of the equation

MSTI chimes in with his East Coast thoughts and seems to be in denial about this being a steroid issue.

The humorous boys over at SOSG will do better then Ed Wood given the proper amount of time.

Howard Cole from baseball savvy says to remain objective

Robert Daeley from The Trolly Dodger  taking us through the five stages of grief

Blue Heaven has the photo of most of us this morning

Dodger Friend Jay Jaffe from Baseball Prospectus still thinks we win the West

Using Pythagenpat, that's a .573 winning percentage and a 93-win pace, or right where we pegged the Dodgers at the outset of the year. While this math is effectively saying that the cost of losing Ramirez may be enough to undo the extra advantage they've gained with their quick bolt from the gate, that still leaves the Diamondbacks having to find about 10 wins to overtake the Dodgers.

And the big news is that Manny may have been notified in April and just now dropped his appeal

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Are people forgetting that most of Manny’s salary is deferred? We’re not getting $7.7M to spend at the trading deadline, since his ENTIRE salary this year is only
$10M.

by silverwidow on May 7, 2009 4:20 PM PDT reply actions  

How do you figure that plays out and can Manny decide to have the money applied to his deferred years or do they just do a blanket %?

by meercatjohn on May 7, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's $7.7m

somehow, some way. No idea how they will split it up, but I would guess whatever percentage would be taken out of his salary plus deferments. They may have something worked out though on how Manny’s pay is cut.

Manny’s salary this year is $25 million. He’s just getting paid $10 million of it in 2009. Any suspension penalty will be calculated based on the $25m, not $10m

by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

True

it’s just that some people think we’re getting all of that money this year. Not the case. The savings is spread out like the deferrals.

by silverwidow on May 7, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right

but given the way the Dodgers structure contracts, whomever they sign may be given a deferred deal anyway :)

by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope we call up XPaul to shore up the team.

We’ll be fine for the next 7 weeks imho. Dig deeper Dodgers. Fight on!

by Craig88USC on May 7, 2009 4:20 PM PDT reply actions  

X-man is up but our outfield depth just took a huge hit. Ethier/Kemp have to remain healthy and productive.

by meercatjohn on May 7, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cheater

Hey Manny you should be ashamed of yourself. Cheaters do not have a place in baseball. No wonder why your RBI were up all these years .Everything was so juicy . you should be banish from basaball forever.

by guanaquito1214 on May 7, 2009 4:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Do you by chance call the Jim Rome Show?

by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

RBI's are a product of where you hit in the batting order

and who hits in front of you.

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by bluemax on May 7, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

basaball – i love me some basaball

by meercatjohn on May 7, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Spoken just like someone who joined SB Nation and TBLA on 5/7/09

Hey Douche-canoe, you’re a little late to the dance today

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by DodgerBlueBalls on May 7, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

get real

One. The substance he got the 50 game suspension for was only just recently added to the banned substance list last year. two. It is a drug that is made to boost fertility in both men and women. three.It does not enhance or help anything except for making sure if you’re a man that you can get it up or if you’re a woman that you have a better chance of getting pregnant. four: the connection to doping is that it helps increase testosterone to help negate the negative effects of steroids which is low sperm count. So basically he got suspended for taking a drug that doesnot enhance and is not a steroid. Het got suspended for taking a drug that recently got added and whose legitimate purpose is to ensure the virility of both men and women. Because it makes a better story, it is easier to believe that rather than suffering from erectile dysfunction he must be trying to cycle down even though he has never tested positive for steroids of any kind. Heaven for bid that we except the possibility that someone in they’re late 30s is suffering ED and would want to use a product that is less publicly known than viagra and cialis. I mean if you’re a public figure, i’m sure you as a man in the public eye would want to be thought of as less than a man because you have difficulties getting it up. grow up. please. i’m not naive, i know people use illegal drugs, but the way that this has been blown out of proportion is ridiculous. When you catch him using HGH or anabolic steroids or any kind of performance enhancing drug then you got a case, but to persecute the man for using an ED drug because Afraud, Consucko, and Clemens the lemon suck and are cheaters is stupid.

by WTF22 on May 7, 2009 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, and Santa Claus is real, and the tooth fairy, and the Easter Bunny… wake up buddy, the guy’s a major d-bag and you’re about to find out just how much. :)

by GoRedSox!13 on May 7, 2009 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ned has had some horrific luck with his big name free agents. His three highest profile free agent signings have all ended up with warts.
1. Schmidt – basically a waste of three years/47 Million
2. A Jones – basically a waste of 38 Million
3. Manny – non steroid 38 year old Manny going forward in 2010 for 20million? hmmm

by meercatjohn on May 7, 2009 4:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Don't forget Juan Pierre!

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by bluemax on May 7, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

That wasn’t bad luck that was just a bad signing.

by meercatjohn on May 7, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

But shouldn’t the Schmidt contract fall in the same category?

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by bluemax on May 7, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now that I think about it

Pierre has declined a lot, I’m sure Ned didn’t think Juan would stop hitting triples.

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by bluemax on May 7, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

or not being able to bunt for a hit but history should have told him those skills go fast for those guys. Not everyone is a Kenny Lofton.

by meercatjohn on May 7, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not really luck

When you knew Andruw Jones was showing signs of decline and you knew Schmidt had a tear. :o

by Chad Moriyama on May 7, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Please, decline and what we got were two different things.

by meercatjohn on May 7, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

you are an f*ing douche

You made a name to come to talk sh*t…… GET A LIFE. He was on your team for 8 years and you dont think he was doing anything wrong. I dislike the fact he has been a dodger for 5 months and our image is tarnished. You are a Boston douche…. You better thank him for what he brought your city….

by Big Blue on May 7, 2009 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ned pretty much told Plaschke to piss off

awesome

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by bluemax on May 7, 2009 4:57 PM PDT reply actions  

I won't like to Plaschke vitriolic, knee-jerk, nonsense.

But I will give you this one line:

[Manny’s] body didn’t look like it belonged to a juicer, and I’m always looking.

Plaschke: pecker checker? (Or maybe that’s where he should have been looking.)

by David Young on May 7, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

God that’s great. Got to get that into a headline. SOSG is probably working on it already.

by meercatjohn on May 7, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

One of the only things

I like about Colletti is that he’s such a prick to the media sometimes.

Hahaha.

by Chad Moriyama on May 7, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Juan Pierre to bat 9th

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by bluemax on May 7, 2009 4:58 PM PDT reply actions  

He can workout just has to change uniforms when the gate opens. That is surprising to me.

by meercatjohn on May 7, 2009 4:59 PM PDT reply actions  

I can’t hear the question, only the answer. What did Plaschke ask?

by meercatjohn on May 7, 2009 5:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Dunno

but Ned was pissed and given the stupid shit Plaschke has said today it was cool to see Ned dismiss him.

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by bluemax on May 7, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had to sit in on a meeting

but I’m sure the press conference will be archived on Dodgers.com soon enough. I’ll link it here once I see it.

by Eric Stephen on May 7, 2009 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

So when Palmeiro tested positive his career was over, is the difference the fact that Manny is still producing and Rafael was already done? I mean this guy just disappeared off the face of the earth.

by meercatjohn on May 7, 2009 5:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Yup.

Palmeiro started to suck AND he had that cloud over him, therefore the cost wasn’t worth the benefit. If he was hitting 50 HR a year, nobody would have cared.

Also, he tested positive for a steroid. Manny did not.

by Chad Moriyama on May 7, 2009 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

That smacks of insubordination; just for that I’m going to have to ban you and delete all your comments.

by meercatjohn on May 7, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Love to stay and chat and talk about Manny but I’m off to celebrate the 59 World Series and collect some of those 59 throw back transistor radio thingamabobs. I will however be leaving the game early due to a compromise with my wife.

by meercatjohn on May 7, 2009 5:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Enjoy

Support our boys in Blue

by Big Blue on May 7, 2009 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

One thing I heard that made sense is after the first test, MLB invested the matter. During the investigation, they found the paperwork of the hCG, which would make since if it was “prescribed.” Therefore, after he failed the second test, they just left it as the hCG and left it at that.

by Big Blue on May 7, 2009 5:23 PM PDT reply actions  

need to re-read before I post

 ….they just left it as the hCG and left it at that…..
doh

by Big Blue on May 7, 2009 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Loss of revenue?

I wonder what the projected revenue loss is for the home games between now and the end of the suspension.

by David Young on May 7, 2009 5:25 PM PDT reply actions  

But the Dodgers will make up for it

by increased revenues from Manny wig sales at NL West parks. The Dodgers did license the rights, yeah?

by KrazyKrabMeat on May 7, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

On ESPN they said last year he added about 5 million in revenue

From attendance, merchandise, and such. So I guess that is around the number of games he will miss.

by trainwreck84 on May 7, 2009 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

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