Giants at Dodgers, Episode V: The Umpire Strikes Back
by Eric Stephen on May 9, 2009 9:30 AM PDT
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You never want to concede a game to the opposition, but with tomorrow's matchup -- Tim Lincecum vs. Jeff Weaver -- heavily favoring the Giants, today's game seems quite important for the Dodgers to win. Then again, Chad Billingsley vs. Barry Zito was tilted heavily in the Dodgers' direction, and the Giants went on to win 3-1.
Ken Gurnick of MLB.com tells us that some regulars will rest in today's day game following a night game, with the leading candidates being Rafael Furcal, Casey Blake, and perhaps Russell Martin. However, with Monday's off day providing a natural day off, Martin's 11 hits in his last 20 at bats might be too important to sit. Entering last Saturday's game, Martin was hitting .198, and I jokingly told a friend he would be at .280 by the end of the homestand. Well, he's up to .267 now, so that doesn't look so far fetched.
Dylan Hernandez notes the absence of Manny Ramirez is already being felt by the club. I can't help but think constant questions about Manny's suspension could really grate on the players. Casey Blake noted, "Obviously, I'd rather not answer these questions, but it's there. It's real."
What's also real is that the Dodgers play today on big Fox, at 12:40. Eric Stults faces off against Jonathan Sanchez.
Get your guesses in for "Just A Bit Outside" here.
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Eric - I hope Joe lets the Cajun start today.
Let’s see if Xavier can do well against southpaws. If he is as good as I think he is – what a delight that would be till the banished one returns.
If I had to make an over/under
On number of Juan Pierre starts during Manny’s suspension, I would put the number at 47.5.
And I’d take the over.
by Eric Stephen on May 9, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
As hard as it is to believe
Juan Pierre will have a better shot against Sanchez than Xavier Paul who according to those who have seen him say he can’t hit lefties.
What the hell is the point of XPaul coming up then?
I’d rather have a mid-level prospect like him playing in AAA and a low level guy in Hoffmann on the ML bench.
I think they wanted to give Paul a taste of the big leagues. He’ll play occasionally, and I’m not as concerned with having him play every day in AAA since he’s older.
by Eric Stephen on May 9, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree
he’s not an elite prospect and he’s not that young. But still, it kind of bothers me that he will be given ZERO chance to compete for the starting job. And the justification is Pierre’s salary, not ability, because Paul has a strong arm that would help immensely on defense plus a smidgen of pop.
I'm sure Torre thinks Pierre is better than Paul right now.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Wasn't Xavier voted best arm in the organization 4 YRS IN A ROW.
…just sayin’ I better not see Juan out in left field in any 9th inning WITH THIS KID’S MONDESI-TYPE GUN. : )
Paul would.
But there’s a reason he’s not making 10M, because he’s a rookie. I’m just saying I’m sure Torre thinks that Pierre is a proven veteran who’s better than Paul, I’m not saying I agree with him.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, Pierre is a proven veteran
but if Torre thinks that makes him better than Paul, he’s an idiot.
I think a lot of managers think that way.
They have a general distrust of rookies. In a way, things are like this in lots of businesses. A boss will trust his longtime employee over someone who was just hired, even if the new hire might be better.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Well
At least we got everyone but Raffy in there.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Furcal adds 50 points to his slug% when facing LHP. Not to nitpick but I’d have sat him down tomorrow.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I think
Torre just wanted to spread out the off days. There will probably be a couple of guys who get off days tomorrow too (Russ and O-Dog/Blake maybe).
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
It's not unreasonable
to think Pierre is better than Paul right now. I would like Paul to see some time too, but it is unreasonable to say Torre is an idiot for playing Pierre over Paul.
I can understand
him playing Pierre over Paul. One guy makes 10 million bucks and the other has one AB in the big leagues. Fine.
But Paul’s skill set deserves an opportunity, at least, to compete over someone so one dimensional.
I can't wait to hear Fox cover this game...
because they are so good at avoiding sensationalism when there isn’t any controversy.
I’ll be skipping today’s game. Or maybe catching a couple games on the radio.
Going to a place with no working TV due to the digital switch, and no reliable internet connection.
I thought
the digital switch was pushed back to June.
by Eric Stephen on May 9, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
parents got rid of the bunny ears for the TV at the workplace.
I should buy them a digital converter.
Rosenthal has the kind of smirk you just want to pound.
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A very punchable face.
I’ll be out today, at the Santa Monica BBQ Festival. The iPhone app will have to do. Hope it doesn’t drain the battery,
by Eric Stephen on May 9, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I can do the recap today if you need it.
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I'll was going to do it.
Unless you really wanted to.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Rosenthal said Manny's only losing $6.8 million of his deal, and only 3 million this year, and less than two million in each deffered year.
So in essence, his deffered contract saves him money!
Lets go Dodgers!!!
Should be a fun game.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 12:40 PM PDT reply actions
Good
Sandoval’s out and Uribe is starting at 3rd.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 12:41 PM PDT reply actions
Nice comeback from 3 – 0. Got to be aggressive today, no power in this lineup.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Agreed.
All fastballs so far from Stults according to gameday, although I thought he threw a changeup to Renteria.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Sign everyone to a $100 millon contract?
Not sure that would work.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
You would deferr the money
though decades, and sign retirement contracts that guaranteed jobs after their playing days in exchange for coaching jobs and heavy promotion ideas, and such.
Of course I’m not even serious here.
Off the pitcher's glove.
Don’t see that often.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Why was Uribe playing Hudson to bunt with no outs?
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He squared to bunt the first two pitches.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Alright!
We better get at least one run here.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 12:51 PM PDT reply actions
Lot of movement which is he has such command issues and K’s.
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91.2 MPH on average.
That’s good for a lefty starter.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
He was as a reliever.
He’s got good stuff, just not a lot of control.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
This year's loney with power.
It happens, and can you really blame Ethier on that last DP? His bat broke on ball, its not like he could have lifted the ball up on a broken bat.
To clarify
I can deal with a player that has a lot of DPs as long as they are also producing.
DPs are opptunity based.
Sure, we could have had more, Ethier could have also striked out for each DP he has. He could have a hit, sac fly, etc.
High DP are a function of men on base.
Argh
Ethier that was awful. Grounds into a DP on a bad 3-1 pitch. Horrible execution.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 12:54 PM PDT reply actions
27 GIDP is the Dodger record. He’s on a pace to crush that.
http://www.bb-ref.com/play-index/shareit/PGzw
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Loney had 18 in the first half last year and only 7 in the 2nd half. Hopefully Andre will follow the same path.
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He probably will.
A lot of times DP’s are just bad luck, there’s no reason Andre should continue at such a crazy pace.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
That 96 Dodgers team doesn't seem offensively gifted
Only 703 runs scored.
Ethier may be on pace to crush the record, but the this year Dodgers’ team is going to score at least 900 runs this season.
Hopefully. :)
damn
paste the numbers at the end too
I'm nobody's fool, least of all yours
by BoulderDodger on May 9, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Anybody notice that Loretta has totally sucked when starting compared to pinch hitting.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?n1=loretma01&year=2009&t=b
so far this year.
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Yep
It’s a really small sample size though, I wouldn’t read too much into it.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Whenever anyone talks about foul balls
I think of Alex Cora’s 23 pitch at bat a few year ago.
That was phenomenal.
I’d like to see a replay of that.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Neither is very good at the moment. That will change.
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Casey's decent.
Loney hasn’t been good this year.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
They both have great differentials between AVG/OB. Loney’s OB is still way above average.
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Loney's also a 1st baseman.
I know you don’t like win values but Loney’s been worth 0.2 WAR while Casey’s been worth 0.6 WAR. If they keep this up, Casey will be an above average player while Loney would be way below average.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
And because Castro is old
Nobody loves PVL’s like Karros
by Michael White on May 9, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I love Fred Lewis playing LF, it is like watching Lonnie Smith all over again.
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Yes!!!
Shades of Blake’s double last night!!
He's athletic
But amazingly inconsistent.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Kershaw was born one year before me.
Mine’s better.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Take that Tripon!!
That’s what Juan Pierre would say to you if he knew you existed.
by Michael White on May 9, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
48 games to be exact.
The best thing that could happen to the Dodgers is for Pierre to get hot and flash some 2004 skills, thus making him marketable when Manny comes back and help take the heat off the team during his absence. If Marlon Anderson can go nuts for a month it is possible.
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I don't see it
If Juan plays well for 48 games, Ned wouldn’t be interested in trading him. Not with a 37 year old outfielder come off a suspension.
by Michael White on May 9, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
+1
Unless that means Pierre will get more starts over Kemp/Ethier when Manny gets back. That would be bad.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
there we go
hardest part of the cycle is now covered…except for juan. what an at bat for him though
I'm nobody's fool, least of all yours
They only gave hi ma double unfortunately.
Rowand error advanced him to third.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
It's not a strong bet
That anyone reaches 50 HR or 150 RBI. No one reached either mark last year.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d take that bet giving you 10 – 1 odds that he does not reach both.
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You guys are ON
Unfortunately, I don’t make bets with people on the net, so it’ll have to just be for bragging rights.
Too bad.
I was looking forward to some free money. ;-)
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah
Not a good 3-1 pitch to swing at Kemp.
Maybe
He worked out a mechanical flaw in his swing. He seems much more patient in waiting fo his pitch.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
If Loney or Martin don’t go deep by tomorrow, True Blue will be starting a pool with the winner being a choice of
1. Dodgers 2009 Media Guide – awesome stuff in there
2. Bluetopia
The pool will work like this.
1. Choose either Martin or Loney
2. The Game – can only pick games on the roadtrip starting Monday.
3. The inning will be the tie breaker.
At least I think that is how we will work it.
And somebody better damn will win because if they come back home still homerless
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sounds awesome!
I'm nobody's fool, least of all yours
by BoulderDodger on May 9, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
wow JT couldn't say enough about JP
He has looked good today
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on May 9, 2009 1:40 PM PDT reply actions
Stults is missing his spots quite a bit with his fastball.
But when he does, he’s missing out of the strike zone. The Giants aren’t gettign a lot of hittable pitches.
Yes it will.
It would be great to get a CG out of Stults.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Stults could be coming around
Boy would that be a lift to staff, now if Kuroda would start mending we will be alright.
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on May 9, 2009 1:43 PM PDT reply actions
OPP DEC PC PQS IP W L SV H ER BB K FB GB LD
2009-04-11 @ARI W 95 4 5.1 1 0 0 4 1 2 5 7 5 1
2009-04-16 SF W 89 2 5.0 1 0 0 5 2 3 2 4 8 5
2009-04-24 @COL ND 100 2 5.0 0 0 0 7 3 5 3 10 5 2
2009-04-29 @SF L 67 0 2.2 0 1 0 7 5 2 1 4 3 6
2009-05-04 ARI W 89 4 5.2 1 0 0 5 2 2 4 6 8 1
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Let’s not get to excited, this is a poor Giant lineup, even more so with Sandoval on the bench.
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Agreed.
It is a very good start so far, but I still wouldn’t make Stults out to be more than he is.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Stults is perfect through 4 innings
We shouldn’t have too much hope in Stults… I can see a Giant getting a base hit, then having things unravel for Stults.
I think Stults is the definition of replacement level
Not that there’s anything wrong with that. I love cost-controlled pitchers taking the 5 spot over a PVL—- like Milton.
by Michael White on May 9, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I think he's better than replacement level.
He’s a good #6 starter, and a possible #5 candidate.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Amen to that.
Between Kershaw, McDonald, and Stults our bullpen has been getting worked in these first weeks of the season.
If we can’t use him plenty of team in baseball should be able to considering the riff raff some of them are using.
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We should be able to.
If we’re starting Jeff Weaver.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
You can’t talk about jinxes to anybody
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Come on.
I just said what our odds were!
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
So what do the Dodgers do with Juan Pierre once Manny comes back?
It looks like Juan is going to do his best and might show the value he provides during this 2 months of playing time. Do the Dodgers look for suitors if Juan plays well or keep him for the season?
I think it all depends on how much money Frank wants to eat.
That contract is a big weight for JP.
Ned said they were willing to eat some but didn’t say how much. A few teams who went with in -house options like the White Sox and Yankee’s could have used Juan.
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I remember the White Sox had interest.
I also don’t know their financials and what they were giving up.
That would be awesome if we could trade him.
But I doubt it.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Heh
Thy’ve got 4 outfielders better than Pierre though. They won’t want his contract.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Still
The contract is the killer. The could pick someone up similiar to Pierre for free basically.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Rowand looks goofy.
He runs funny, bats funny, and smashes into walls and kicks balls in the outfield
And to think we were thinking of picking him up thank god
Paul D. Kelley
by so.cal.native1952 on May 9, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
And he looks funny.
Very weird body type.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I can't remember was it DRUW JONES
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by so.cal.native1952 on May 9, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
No, it was Andruw.
Hard to say which contract is worse.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
That would be correct
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by so.cal.native1952 on May 9, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
so who is the the next LF in two years
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by so.cal.native1952 on May 9, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Does he get through 5 with the shutout intact – and as i finish asking the question the answer is “YES”
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Bills and Kershaw have a few times
but that bullpen has got to be getting worn out.
We've still got 8 relievers.
Broxton hasn’t pitched in 4 games and Leach in 3. I think they’re fine.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
damn
i was hoping for both of them to dive to open up the inside the park homer
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by BoulderDodger on May 9, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I am.
But I’ve never really tried the higlights.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I want to see a bunt single
show them the full range of your game Pierre
Nevermind
He’s been completely overmatched against Sanchez.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Kemp!!
Another baserunning blunder but luckily he makes it back to first safely.
Was this guy a pick-up or what
O Dawg and yah Andre is having a bad day so far
Wow why to go kemp
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by so.cal.native1952 on May 9, 2009 2:04 PM PDT reply actions
Kemp is my favorite player
I know which jersey to get now
I was debating Broxton, Billingsley, and Martin
But now that Kemp can play center, no one else is close
Man I hope they keep Kemp in the four hole.
That is not how you do a rundown.
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And Kemp steals second easily.
Bison speed.
wow he has a nice jumper
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by so.cal.native1952 on May 9, 2009 2:07 PM PDT reply actions
He was a hell of high school basketball player. I figured he must have needed the money to have chosen baseball over basketball when got out of high school because he probably didn’t have a shot at a pro NBA career.
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Wouldn't anyone choose baseball then?
If you have a chance to go pro.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
really i will check that out
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by so.cal.native1952 on May 9, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
With this steroid-charged era we’re living in right now, in a way I kind of enjoy seeing Loney do his thing without going yard every week. Or even once a season for that matter :) .
I'd be fine with low homers
The problem is he isn’t hitting doubles either.
I'm not.
He needs a lot more power if he’s going to be a long-term answer at first base.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice play by Castro.
Almost got him, but Burriss is too fast.
Eric K. talking about September
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by so.cal.native1952 on May 9, 2009 2:14 PM PDT reply actions
That's unbelievable.
He’s not even big (other than height).
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I was 6ft right side tackle 189
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by so.cal.native1952 on May 9, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Regarding the Uribe catch on comments on Fox
I think Kershaw moved out of he way because he wanted to protect his head, not because he was giving Uribe room
Did EK ever play in post season
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by so.cal.native1952 on May 9, 2009 2:14 PM PDT reply actions
Dodgers made the playoffs several times in mid-90s
they just couldn’t win a game
Carney Lansford
If they gave him a test they would get BEER
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by so.cal.native1952 on May 9, 2009 2:16 PM PDT reply actions
I stepped away and just got back in time to see the Kemp catch. Who made the error since Furcal is on the bench?
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Casey got a grounder
And threw it to O-Dog who dropped it. Hudson got the error.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
matty matty you are starting to grow
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by so.cal.native1952 on May 9, 2009 2:20 PM PDT reply actions
Kemp has shown in this game that he can go left and he can go right with the best of the.
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So your telling me you can't play his left hand
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by so.cal.native1952 on May 9, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
As he should have.
It’s taken a huge step forward.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow
That would make up for the lack of a TV!!
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Fantasy baseball
Anyone in here participate in fantasy baseball? If so, who are the Dodgers on your team?
I’ve got a Dodger root team in a scoresheet league.
http://www.scoresheet.com/FOR_WWW/NL_Home_Town.htm
I’m loaded with Dodgers
Loney, Furcal, Martin, Kemp, Billingsley, Kershaw, Troncoso, Wolf, McDonald
and ten minor leaguers.
In my roto league I only have Kershaw
We also have a True Blue league and a Dodger Thought league of which I have teams but can’t remember at the moment who I have. Those are free leagues and don’t pay as close attention to them.
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that was Hudson's error.
If that’s wha you were talking about.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I like him still.
We’ll see when he starts declining.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Year Age Team PA AB ISOP BB% K% BABIP GB% LD% RC RC/27 wOBA
2005 21 AA Jacksonville 572 504 .135 10.3% 15.2% .325 .333
2006 22 AAA Las Vegas 404 366 .166 7.9% 8.4% .404 39% 24% .408
2006 22 MLB LA Dodgers 111 102 .275 7.2% 9.0% .284 49% 10% .373
2007 23 AAA Las Vegas 261 233 .103 9.6% 18.4% .348 43% 21% .316
2007 23 MLB LA Dodgers 373 343 .207 7.2% 12.6% .352 42% 23% .385
2008 24 MLB LA Dodgers 648 595 .145 6.6% 13.1% .320 44% 20% .331
2009 25 MLB LA Dodgers 128 111 .063 12.5% 6.3% .311 42% 28% .322
Loney has almost doubled his walk rate and dropped his K rate by the same %.
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That's really good.
Hopefully the power will come.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
who do we get after ants
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by so.cal.native1952 on May 9, 2009 2:24 PM PDT reply actions
wow he has a nice jumper
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by so.cal.native1952 on May 9, 2009 2:27 PM PDT reply actions
Where did you see it?
I missed it the first time.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Belisario has looked good lately.
And his peripherals are still good.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
that was a hell of a pitch
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by so.cal.native1952 on May 9, 2009 2:34 PM PDT reply actions
someone get the TP Roland is up
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by so.cal.native1952 on May 9, 2009 2:35 PM PDT reply actions
90 pitches through 7.
He can go one more inning.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
If Stults and Weaver are good from here on out
who keeps his spot in the rotation when Kuroda comes back
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Stults. No question
There is no value in Weaver being the #5 starter. No upside or trade potential or anything
I wouldn’t worry about Weaver being good from here on out.
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hahaha touche
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by BoulderDodger on May 9, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
That's what I did in MLB the Show
I'm nobody's fool, least of all yours
by BoulderDodger on May 9, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Stuts has got the #5 job for the forseeable future
what role does McDonald play once Kuroda comes back? Is he long relief or do they try to get him into high leverage situations?
Maybe back to the minors?
Not sure if we’ll have spots for everybody.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
mota not looking that great
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by so.cal.native1952 on May 9, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd let McDonald start inthe minors for awhile.
Get his confidence back.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
that's what i did in MLB the Show
I'm nobody's fool, least of all yours
by BoulderDodger on May 9, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Karros says Ned has done a great job
Keeping the young players and not giving up much.
Lol.
And there's tons of other examples
Unfortunately.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
We all make mistakes but he did keep the right guys. Billingsley, Kemp, Broxton, Ethier, Martin and I’m sure he’s been offered players for him everyday for the last three years.
We all are bummed he didn’t get more for E Jackson/Navarro/Santana but he sure traded Joel Guzman/Tiffany at the right time.
Joel Guzman became Lugo which became multiple draft picks which is more valuable then Guzman is.
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Is this the first time you've ever defended Ned Phil?
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
No, I’ve defended Ned many times at DT and even here when it is one sided. Eric usually handles the defense so I don’t need to jump in. People think because I was so pissed off at the Santana trade and that I’ve done the satire stuff with him that I’m anti – Ned but I’m not.
I’m neutral, I think he’s made some moves that didn’t work out that I would have done, some moves I would never consider, and some moves that have worked out. Maybe he’s learning because he had a hell of winter and not one that I would have done. You know I wasn’t in favor of Wolf or Hudson and they have been huge reasons for this teams success.
He’s made two deals that set me off at the time. The Proctor/Betemit deal because it left us without a 3rd baseman or valuable pinch hitter and Proctor sucked. And the Santana deal. Those were my howls of protest. Most of the other stuff I could see both sides to even if I disagreed with his move.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Sorry I was joking.
Though I didn’t know you were neutral on Ned. I’m still pretty anti-Ned but this offseason turned out better than I could have hoped, and I think he may be learning on the job as well. His interviews lately have encouraged me quite a bit.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Let's ask Cleveland if they will do Santana for Blake straight up
We’ll even through in 3M we’re saving from Manny
On the bright side
our 2008 draft has totally STOCKED the system again: Martin, Lindblom, Gordon, Delmonico, Russell to name a few.
Agreed.
This last draft looks REALLY good. Hopefully the ’09 draft will be just as fruitful.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Hard to be fruitiful with no first rounder.
Imagine the 08 class without Ethan Martin. He’s the one that makes the 08 class that much better.
True
But maybe we will get an extra first rounder in ’10 if Hudson signs elsewhere.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
and hard to argue that Hudson was not worth that draft pick at this point.
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Exactly.
I like Dewitt a lot, but he would not have been nearly this good.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Although
He was 2-3 with a double today.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
since when did the Aussies by KFC
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by so.cal.native1952 on May 9, 2009 2:48 PM PDT reply actions
so who will be the next LF in two yaers
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by so.cal.native1952 on May 9, 2009 2:53 PM PDT reply actions
Yes you did. ;-)
And I backed you up.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Incredible game. Now he gets to miss the Phillies and pitch in Florida. Ned said we may not need a fifth starter the next time around, I wonder if Weaver gets jacked if they skip him and let Stults go?
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Probably not
After 8 shutout innings for Stults.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Remember those Gagne days when he was coming in in the 9th inning and you knew the game was over? I’m kinda starting to feel that way with Broxton now.
come on lonesky
hit one
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by so.cal.native1952 on May 9, 2009 3:00 PM PDT reply actions
One more game to end the 20 straight games. Last day off was April 20th. Nice feat no matter what happens tomorrow.
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With Stults effort today
and that off day, we can go to the pen early and often tomorrow which will be nice to have that option
I haven't hardly been there since the move.
He was a really good poster though.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Error for Uribe.
Allowing Casey to reach.
Castro
Doing his best to replace Manny!! ;-)
Stults best day ever.
"There's only one man you gotta please, and it's the one upstairs," Pierre said. "People even hated God and Jesus. That'll tell you what all the critics do.
In all the years I haven't seen this much 2 out hitting
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by so.cal.native1952 on May 9, 2009 3:09 PM PDT reply actions
So awesome to do his on National TV for a guy casual baseball fans have never heard off.
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I am glad to show the national audience
That the dodgers can still put up runs and is still a great team
The bench does the job again. Pierre/Castro with five hits?
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Take that ESPN!
Our guys can do it with or without Manny!
by Jesse S. on May 9, 2009 3:11 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Anyone remember Mark Sweeney last year
We’re a far ways away from last year’s bench.
The bench has quietly been great so far.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Swell. Can't watch the game so I'm on gameday.
Nice to see the usual crowd here.
Yep
It’s been a great game so far. Stults has looked terrific.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I've noticed.
It’s quite impressive, actually. I hope he’ll make up for Weaver, ‘cause we all know he’ll blow it at some point (I hope not).
Sweeny the weeney did he ever get a hit
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by so.cal.native1952 on May 9, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
The bench is also better than the injured veterans who came off the bench last year.
"There's only one man you gotta please, and it's the one upstairs," Pierre said. "People even hated God and Jesus. That'll tell you what all the critics do.
This is what I want to see.
An absolute massacre of the Giants.
really small sample size
but 6 runs a game for 3 games without manny is good to see
I'm nobody's fool, least of all yours
Isn't he one of the guys who actually hits Lincecum pretty well?
by Michael White on May 9, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Right, that's what I was thinking of
my mistake
by Michael White on May 9, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I know he's "Abel to hit Cain"
as Vin Scully says. hopefully he can turn it around against Lincecum
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by BoulderDodger on May 9, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually it is good to see that they know Mota is only good for mop duty.
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Agreed.
That’s all he has been used for lately.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
All his speed is wasted defensively.
"There's only one man you gotta please, and it's the one upstairs," Pierre said. "People even hated God and Jesus. That'll tell you what all the critics do.
Sorry
I meant they’ll takehim out if one more guy reaches base.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Winn wants to go home. What a hack that was.
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This may seem silly but really proud of the team today. Way to come up big on National TV while everyone is predicting doom.
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by Phil Gurnee on May 9, 2009 3:21 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
agreed
awesome!
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by BoulderDodger on May 9, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Woohoo!!
Great game! Complete game shutout for Stults!!! Exceptional performance!
Victory!
"There's only one man you gotta please, and it's the one upstairs," Pierre said. "People even hated God and Jesus. That'll tell you what all the critics do.
WOW AND TO THINK I WAS GOING TO GO RIDING, GALD I DIDN'T
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by so.cal.native1952 on May 9, 2009 3:24 PM PDT reply actions
How many runs did Matt Kemp save Stults?
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at least 3
1 in the 9th. and ended the inning with men on 1st and 2nd in the 6th
I'm nobody's fool, least of all yours
by BoulderDodger on May 9, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Bison Power!
Bison beats you with the bat ….
Now Bison beats you with the glove!
What in the heck will this guy be doing 24 months from now?
My Favorite Player
by 68elcamino427 on May 9, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Totally does.
He was awesome on defense today.
by Brendan Scolari on May 9, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
It's been fun everyone have a great day
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by so.cal.native1952 on May 9, 2009 3:26 PM PDT reply actions
Rays now up 13 -4 on Sox. Just about a perfect day so far.
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