Arms Race
With the Dodgers in first place so close to the All-star break, it is not unreasonable to think ahead to the postseason. I think many people will agree that the Dodgers are one solid pitcher from a World Series birth.
Recently, the has been much speculation of another big acquisition by the Dodgers' GM. There are some arms available to the Dodgers, and not all methods require giving up a great prospect or a young player.
The first suggestion was the acquisition of the Blue Jays' Roy Halladay. The Jays' GM did suggest that they are putting his name on the trading block, but are not actively shopping him. Halladay has a 10-1 record, and is probably going to be the AL Cy Young winner if he continues on this pace. He is, however, on the 15-day DL with a groin strain. But this is seen as a temporary and mild setback. ESPN Radio did talk about how it is possible that the Jays would like a good arm for their team as well, such as Broxton or Kershaw. Halladay is 31 and Kershaw is 21. So the dilemma is this: Would you trade for a proven number 1 starter for an inconsistent young pitcher with a lot of upside? Win now, or win in maybe 5 years? I don't see the Dodgers pulling off a trade to move their youngsters, and a lot of fans would be against this. As a fan, I would love the Dodgers to have someone to put them over the top. But are you giving up a gem like when Pedro Martinez went goodbye?
Also available is a former Dodger, in Pedro Martinez. Now, Pedro hasn't pitched since the WBC and is probably going to want a prorated salary that is going to be pricey. He has been very average his past 3 seasons (17-15), with a very undesirable ERA. Pedro's effectiveness is going to be in question. Speaking about questionable, so is Mr. Glavine.
Tom Glavine is without a team now. Now who would gamble on the 43 year-old Glavine. In 07, he was still very effective, posting a 13-8 record. However, Glavine was cut by the Braves and is without a bidder.
I entirely understand that it might be a middle reliever or hitter that the Dodgers might need. Huston Street might be a good option if the Dodgers could steal him. But getting him would cement an already effective but well-worked bullpen. The Dodgers have to worry about tired arms with Torre's philosophy of running his guys out there a ton. Jeff Weaver was a very effective long reliever, and they might need him to be in the pen instead of the starting rotation.
I would love to here your thoughts. Who is needed to put the Dodgers over the top? Or are the Dodgers already there with the return of Kuroda, and rising of Billingsley? One thing I do know is that Jake Peavy is out of the question. No way the Padres will trade him to the Dodgers, and he is on the shelf anyways.
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For starters
What is Halladay’s contract like? Remaining years, money owed etc…?
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by Xeifrank on Jun 21, 2009 1:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Roy Halladay rhp Link
3 years/$40M (2008-10)
3 year/$40M (2008-10)
signed extension with Toronto 3/06
08:$10M, 09:$14.25M, 10:$15.75M
award bonus: $0.125M for All Star selection
by Big Blue on Jun 21, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think the Jays will trade him though.
If they do it should take a king’s ransom. I presonally wouldn’t want to part with what I think they will ask for.
by Brendan Scolari on Jun 21, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I often listen to Toronto’s Fan590am during the week for their hockey coverage. Regarding the Blue Jays though, I’m pretty sure that I have recently heard JP Riccardi come on the radio there and say that Doc Halladay is “untouchable.” They have a lot of good young arms in Toronto, and I think that the Jays’ brass envisions Doc sticking around and mentoring the youngsters as they come into the majors. I could see Ned making a trade for a much less flashy pitcher, like a Jared Washburn or Bronson Arroyo…
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jun 21, 2009 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are only putting his name out there
They are not actively shopping him. I doubt they are going to trade him for anything short of getting another star or stars in the deal. Ricciardi is not going to accept any deals as long as the Jays are in the hunt.
However, if they should slip to an insurmountable spot in the AL East, I surely would think that more teams might offer and he would consider some of them.
by Kenchanayoh on Jun 21, 2009 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with this
But I don’t think that’s the kind of trade we want to get involved in, especially given Colletti’s recent past of undervaluing prospects.
Just for fun though, what would you be willing to give up?
by Brendan Scolari on Jun 22, 2009 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Prefer a Reliever
I would prefer another strong arm in the bullpen, but if I could get Halladay, I would be willing to trade some prospects along with Pierre. Wishful thinking on my part. Pierre is making relatively the same amount of coin, but will the Jays need another OF with their nice core of young guys out there? Not unless they are looking to move Vernon Wells.
I do see the Dodgers looking to move Pierre. 10 million for a bench guy? Unless he could only play infield, we might be saying goodbye to Slappy before the trade deadline.
I wouldn’t trade Kershaw, just based on Colletti’s confidence in the youngster. Actually, I would do it, but the GM definitely will not. I really want the Dodgers to win now! But that is why the fans shouldn’t be the managers or GMs!
by Kenchanayoh on Jun 22, 2009 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It takes two teams to trade
I do see the Dodgers looking to move Pierre. 10 million for a bench guy? Unless he could only play infield, we might be saying goodbye to Slappy before the trade deadline
There is almost literally no market for Pierre. I guess, all it takes is one GM to cave, but the only way Pierre gets traded is if the Dodgers pay nearly all of his salary. And if they are to pay him anyway, the club would rather have him contributing, even from the bench.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2009 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tom Glavine said he won't pitch this season.
I’d like Pedro, but he needs to lower his price tag. He is not worth $5 million, but if he can be had for a million or so I’d be all for it. I’m skeptical of trading for a pitcher because I’m worried about how much Colletti would give up, but I expect that is what we will do.
by Brendan Scolari on Jun 21, 2009 1:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I would love Pedro too
My main concern is the tired arms in the bullpen. As much as they are effective, they are being used a lot of as young relievers. The starters haven’t made it easy for them as well. I would love them to get another arm either as in a solid starter or a good setup man who is proven.
Pedro is wanting too much money. Even in a prorated contract, it is not cost-effective for a pitcher who hasn’t pitched in the MLB yet this season, and hasn’t been the old Pedro for the last few campaigns.
The longer Glavine is out, the less desirable he will be to teams. But since Moyer is still around, I think there will be one GM or another who would love to sign him. I think he is acting very unprofessional with the Braves recently.
by Kenchanayoh on Jun 21, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently
We’re not interested in Pedro.
The Angels scouted Martinez at his workout last week in the Dominican Republic. The Dodgers did not scout the workout, and Manager Joe Torre said that the team has not discussed Martinez since spring training.
by Brendan Scolari on Jun 22, 2009 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's expensive anyway
way too expensive for a pitcher who hasn’t pitched much in the past few seasons.
But it would be good nostalgia for fans of Ramon and Pedro in the 90s =)
by Kenchanayoh on Jun 23, 2009 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ben Sheets
I think I go Ben Sheets myself, was ace of the Brewers last year has that type of stuff, and hey don’t have to trade anybody other then to clear up a roster spot. they say that Jake Peavy isn’t tradable right now, if I can’t get Ben sheets I would make a trade for Jake Peavy if I could, I would be willing to move Blake Dewitt ( although I like the kid I really like Orlando Hudson ) I am sure we would have to include a pitcher and I would consider James Mcdonald.
by Gary92508 on Jun 22, 2009 8:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Peavy is hurt so he is not an option
Sheets might not be able to contribute this year and he sounds like he will sign with a Texas team, but it is possible.
by Brendan Scolari on Jun 23, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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