Draft Day - Dodger Draft Thread
by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 11:49 AM PDT
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The Major League Draft kicks off today at 03:00 PCT but the Dodgers won't be involved for quite a while as they gave up their number one pick to sign Orlando Hudson and didn't get one back when the Braves signed D Lowe. The first few picks of the Dodgers will go like this thanks to SilverWidow:
#36 Supplemental 1st round pick (for Derek Lowe)
#56 Braves' 2nd round pick (for Lowe)
#65 Dodgers' 2nd round pick
#96 Dodgers' 3rd round pick
Here are some excellent links to whet your appetite for the draft.
Baseball Analysts are covering every aspect of the draft, not just the Dodgers.
Andy Seiler did a fan post on SB Nations Minor League Baseball which has a review of the Logan White drafts, this is a great read from a different perspective. I wish he went into more detail on all the picks but this is a great read and one I recommend for anyone interested in how Logan White handles his drafts.
Brendan found this review of prior Dodger drafts by Fangraphs
To really make you appreciate how much Logan White means to the organization I did a review of the 1999 - 2001 draft pre - Logan White back in Sept of 2007.
Also back in Sept of 2007 and it needs to be updated I did a review of the 2002/2003 drafts
The current Dodger roster has the following players drafted by Logan White
1st James Loney - 1st round, 2002, 19th pick, High School
2nd Blake DeWitt - 1st round, 2004, 28th pick, High School
C Russell Martin - 17th round, 2002, 511th pick, Chipola College
CF Matt Kemp - 6th round, 2003, 181st pick, High School
SP Chad Billingsley - 1st round, 2003, 24th pick, High School
SP Clayton Kershaw - 1st round, 2006, 7th Pick, High School
SP Eric Stults - 15th round, 2002, 451st pick, Bethel College
SP James McDonald - 11th round, 2002, 311rd pick, Golden West College
RP - Jonathan Broxton - 2nd round, 2002, 60th pick, High School
RP - Corey Wade - 10th round, 2004, 298th pick, Kentucky Wesleyan College
RP - Brent Leach - 6th round, 2005, 196th pick, University of Southern Mississippi, Delta State
Complete Dodger Draft provided by Baseball Reference from 2002 - 2008
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Thomas Mendonca
A player I’d like to draft today is Thomas Mendonca. He’s the 3b from Fresno State’s championship team. Scouting reports describe him as athletic and power-hitting, while my memories of him are of his toughness and “clutchness.” Not sure when he’d go, but I wouldn’t mind taking a chance on him.
by kinbote on Jun 9, 2009 12:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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And a scouting report from “camdendepot.com”, included video of a swing.
by David Young on Jun 9, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Heck, he’s the best shortstop in the entire draft."
Over at MLB’s site they are projecting ~30% of the 1st-rounders to be California kids.
This (of course) caught my eye & would be a good home for Grant since the Dodgers have very little chance of him falling down to 36th. -
“19. St. Louis Cardinals: Grant Green, SS, USC
Green remains one of the tougher guys to pinpoint, with his name still in the mix all over the board. He could go higher or he could slide until the end of the first round. For now, he stays put.”
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: ) Phil – This is from The Baseball Analysts site that you linked above }
“Rich: Although (USC’’s Grant) Green didn’t live up to expectations as a junior, he is still a first-round talent. Heck, he’s the best shortstop in the entire draft.” Fight On!
by Craig88USC on Jun 9, 2009 12:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Green
The big thing with Green is most in the industry don’t think he can stay at SS.
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hadn't heard that.
I hope that he can stick at SS though.
by Craig88USC on Jun 9, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
People believe that he'll eventually be a center fielder.
by Tripon on Jun 9, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve heard Keith Law peruse that, nobody else though.
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
really?
Cause that’s been pretty much the big talking point with Green for pretty much the entire year. That and his disappointing junior year.
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Over the final 41 games of the season, Green batted .415 to bring his season average up to a team-best .374.
by Craig88USC on Jun 9, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Power numbers were very disappointing though especially after his performance in the Cape Cod League.
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The CCL where he dominated with WOOD bats!
by Craig88USC on Jun 9, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some scouts I talked to think that Green was suffering from a case of draftitis. Wouldn’t surprise me, but most of the hype on him as died, especially with the questions of his position.
In this morning’s mock draft, BA didn’t even have him in the first round. Sounds like he can go anywhere from 8 to somewhere in the supplemental round.
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My morning paper - OC Reg "... (Green) could be better than Casey Blake..."
Green’s advocates say he has the potential to develop into a “five-tool” player. Even the scout who said Green isn’t a top-five choice said he could be “better than Casey Blake,” who just so happens to be the starting third baseman for the NL West-leading Dodgers.
by Craig88USC on Jun 9, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trojan fans are great. You criticize one of their own and they defend him to the death.
Green could be 5 tool player but it probably won’t be at a premium up the middle position. Here is some info on him from Keith Law
Green remains one of the top college bats in this draft, but his stock has taken a hit due to his light power production and problems on defense at short.
n the field, Green is athletic enough to play shortstop but has had trouble both with fielding and throwing all spring.
n a deeper year, he’d probably slip to the back of the first round or the sandwich round because of the issues with his swing and defense
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still we'd be thrilled to get him with the 36th
pick, don’t you think?
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course
Never said I wouldn’t be did I?
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was just curious
if you were down on him.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not at all
but it can’t be argued that he had a disappointing draft year. If he hadn’t he would be a lock for the top 5. Something Trojan fan can’t wrap his head around.
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
keith law LOL
You have to do better than that!
by Craig88USC on Jun 9, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's wrong with Law?
He’s been scouting players ever since March.
by Tripon on Jun 9, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is a Pac-10 fight going to break out
we need some UCLA folks to step.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus you conveniently took his quotes OUT of context.
And left out the good stuff. ; )
by Craig88USC on Jun 9, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is taken out of context? He’s had a disappointing year, there are question marks about his defense, and he’s obviously fell on draft boards.
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just read the whole piece. You were selective.
I don’t blame you. Agree to disagree.
See what happens real soon.
by Craig88USC on Jun 9, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about taking
Carlos Beltran’s nephew (in the 2nd or 3rd rounds?) Looks like a player.
Meanwhile, some good analysis from Steve Henson in his draft preview on Yahoo, broken out by college and HS. On the Yahoo Sports MLB home page.
by underdog on Jun 9, 2009 1:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Interesting to note
we don’t have one player on the major league roster from a big time College baseball program.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 1:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Though I was pleased we drafted Clayton Allison
last year after watching him pitch Fresno State to the NCAA World Series Championship last summer, just because he was fun to watch.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That'll change
when Lindblom makes it
by silverwidow on Jun 9, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
2008 draft had several big college players drafted
Russell from Texas
Lindblom from Purdue
Buss from USC
Allison from Fresno State
St. Clair from Rice
Austin Young from Standford
Could see three of those make it to the show
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
he really changed up in 2008 and the results might be worth it.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems like it
I remember Canuckdodger (I Believe that’s his handle) commenting on Logan White changing up his approach in last year’s draft on the old Dodgerthoughts site. I will try and find it.
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here ya go
http://dodgerthoughts.baseballtoaster.com/archives/1013023.html
Some of his conclusions ended up being a tad wrong (Linblom going back to starting for example) but it is an interesting read.
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting
But not surprising. Dodgers have always leaned HS especially in the Logan White era. Seems like he favors juco players as well.
Recently he’s dipped into the college ranks (Russell comes to mind as a player from a big program)
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait a minute
Andre Ethier = Arizona State. Drafted by another team, but still.
by silverwidow on Jun 9, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't count, he was drafted by another team.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For all the love we give Logan
other then Kemp we are still missing an impact bat from all his drafts. His strong suit and the scoutings strong suit certainly seems to be finding power arms that have major league ability.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well what about Martin? Slow start this year but I’d still call him an impact bat.
But yea, he’s focused on pitching with his first rounders.
Also sort of ironic that one of the better bats he drafted (Loney) was coveted by other teams as a pitcher.
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Impact Bat?
Not in my book. This is 2009, not 2007.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has showed something though
and he’s still young. I think it is a bit early to give up on Martin as an impact back.
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not giving up
but you can’t call a guy with a sub 300% slug% an impact bat. Against RHP he’s been the worse position hitter in baseball after 1/3 of the season.
Even at his best, he was a good bat, but not an impact bat. Even Kemp has not yet delivered on what I would call an impact bat. Someone who can post a 120 OPS for a full year. I don’t think I’m setting the bar to high for what an impact bat is.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
List of players with a 120+ OPS since 1954 for the Dodgers
http://www.bb-ref.com/play-index/shareit/kNwv
who qualified for the batting title with 502 plate appearances.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also forgot to add Xavier Paul to the list above since he's on the DL
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Total is unchanged
since McDonald isn’t on the 25-man
by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
True- but I consider him part of the 25 man because
he will be before the year is out.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Troncoso is the only e Amateur international signee
on the active big squad with Kuo on the DL.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like the top 8 is set
According to JIm Callis of BA
These eight picks look fairly certain:
1. Nationals: San Diego State righthander Stephen Strasburg.
2. Mariners: North Carolina first baseman Dustin Ackley.
3. Padres: Georgia HS outfielder Donavan Tate.
4. Pirates: Boston College catcher Tony Sanchez.
5. Orioles: California HS righthander Matt Hobgood.
6. Giants: Georgia HS righthander Zack Wheeler.
7. Braves: Vanderbilt lefthander Mike Minor.
8. Reds: North Carolina righhander Alex White.
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Totally sucks to see Alex White
going with that early. While Price wanted to go to College and we never had a shot at him, we did have a shot at Alex White if McCourt had opened his wallet.
Kyle Blair is also expected to be a number one pick next year. If he ends up being a top ten it will really show how shortsighted Frank/Ned have been with trusting Logan on his draft picks and not going the extra mile to bring these high school kids into the fold.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
White and Blair were the ones that got away. 2 Big screw ups by management. Blair had some arm problems this season and couldn’t finish the year for USD. But if he signs with the Dodgers he might not have those problems with lower workloads.
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thing is
that one thing Logan has proven is his ability to nail these high school power arms. When have that going for you, you should take advantage of it for as long as he’s in the organization.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zach Cox
Keep an eye on Zach Cox also, he’ll be playing as a freshman for Arkansas in Omaha. In two more years we could be talking about him as “one that got away” :(
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is Robert Stock's
stock these days? He was like the best prep high schooler in the West Valley and then skipped his senior year to go to USC.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've read
that his stock is back up after two bad years as 2-way player. He didn’t perform as the Trojans starting catcher but may how found a niche as a starting pitcher.
He could be an interesting pick because he’s young for a college player because of his situation. And his arm is pretty fresh for a college junior since he started off as a two way player. He looked great against us this year.
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was a big jump
he attempted going in as USC’s starting catcher at a senior high school age.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The John David Booty of baseball, if you will. Or would that be Josh Booty? :)
by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
I was gonna say, another guy who screwed up going to USC too early. I bet the song girls were worth it though!
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My little sister wants to be on the USC cheer squad.
Not something I’m looking forward too.
by Tripon on Jun 9, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Must be mighty fine
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still believe Logan White does not like to throw money at picks.
He likes guys that are not high on BA’s list, he signs guys at slot. Now, its fair to argue that McCourt hamstrings him with a budget but if they thought they could sign White, why wouldn’t they have drafted him higher in 2006.
Kyle Blair still puzzles me because White has never made that kind of pick (signability issues) with that high a pick before.
by bhsportsguy on Jun 9, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BA is penciling in Stanford closer Drew Storen at 10. Detroit’s pick is up in the air. They’ve shown that they will go overslot for players (Porcello) but with the economy in Detroit and such they might not want to do that again.
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tate
I’m surprised the Padres are taking Tate. He has big money demands and I didn’t think the Padres would be spending that much money in the draft. If they would why not just take Matzek. He seems to have less question marks surrounding him as a high school player than Tate does. Perhaps there is more risk because he is a position player. Anyways color me surprised.
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want Matzek
He’s sinking like a rock due to his high contract demands.
by Tripon on Jun 9, 2009 2:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ditto
Arguably the best HS arm in the draft!
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He probably still won't drop out of the first round.
The Yankees or the Red Sox will snap him up at least, but damn. I want him.
by Tripon on Jun 9, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seven minutes
the suspense is killing me.
Kind of like when the Clippers will be on the clock for the first overall pick:)
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And the Clippers select:
Jeff Ross: OH MY GOD! ITS TAYLOR HANSBROUGH. THE CLIPPERS SELECT TAYLOR HANSBROUGH IN A UPSET.
by Tripon on Jun 9, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't DT
need you over there
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jinx
Don’t jinx them, the Clippers could easily screw that up.
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can't screw up the overall first pick
when it is a no – brainer. Besides Elgin is no longer in charge of the draft.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no way they screw it
griffin will be the pick
by XXDC2XX on Jun 9, 2009 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
teams have 4 minutes in between picks, and 1 minute in between picks after that tonight.
tomorrow’s portion (round 4 on) will be via conference call
by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 2:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
How many minutes between picks
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So we will barely have our first pick done
by the time I leave for the game.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Per Keith Law’s chat this afternoon, I didn’t realize that teams wanting to draft re-entries that didn’t sign with them (i.e. Aaron Crow with the Nats or Tanner Scheppers with the Pirates last year) have to get permission from the player to re-draft him in year 2.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 2:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It makes sense though.
Why should a team gets a 2nd chance of screwing up your negotiations again?
by Tripon on Jun 9, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just because two sides can’t agree doesn’t mean one side screwed up.
The rule, to me, prevents vindictive “keep away” drafting, like if the Nats re-drafted Aaron Crow just to say “I’ll show you” by not signing him again and making him wait a year. Then again, that’s stupid for the team to waste a pick on, and they would pay dearly anyway.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea
Interesting, I didn’t know that either.
Crow didn’t make Law’s mock draft, I would be excited if he fell all the way to our pick. Scheppers seems like more of a medical risk than Crow but recently hit triple digits in an Independent League game. Wouldn’t mind either guy at 35 obviously.
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BP's Kevin Goldstein
has Schepper and Crow going in the first 15. He also had Matzek going to the Orioles
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like the O’s are debating between Hobgood (easy sign) and Wheeler (tough sign). If Wheeler is in the mix why not Matzek though? He carries a pretty heavy price tag if the rumors are right.
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fuentes from BP
Massive Helium Watch: Reymond Fuentes, OF. The top talent in Puerto Rico has been in the US this week, and his private workouts have been nothing short of stunning. He’s a 70-plus runner with impressive bat speed and some power, and the teams that like him think he could develop into a true power/speed threat in center field. He wasn’t even in my Top 50 on Saturday, but in the last 24 hours he’s been attached to teams as high as Detroit at #9 (where his workout for them bordered on legendary), to plenty of teams picking in the 20s. Most likely to take a shot at him? The Astros at 21, the Angels with one of their picks at 24 and 25, or the Rays at 30.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Seems so strange to see the Rays with the 30th pick
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/draft/y2009/draftlive_app.jsp
MLB is streaming it live, for free.
by Tripon on Jun 9, 2009 3:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
cool
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
More BP on our James McDonald
Don’t you, forget about him
James McDonald, RHP, Dodgers (Triple-A Albuquerque)
Monday’s stats: 7 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 2 BB, 10 K
McDonald opened camp in the big leagues as part of the Dodgers rotation, but control issues moved him to the bullpen, and further control issues sent him back to Double-A. Don’t let those 18.2 innings suddenly write him off as a prospect. His ceiling isn’t tremendous as a guy whose secondary stuff is better than his heater, but he’s striking out more than a batter per inning at Triple-A while limiting Pacific Coast League hitters to a .226 batting average while most importantly, throwing strikes. He’ll almost certainly be back at some point.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Stupid reference that had to be made
for the #3 pick…
by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Donovan Tate is a really good football prospect
But he is a better baseball one and he lacks a defined position in football, so I hope he does fall to A’s and they take him.
by trainwreck84 on Jun 9, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he plays QB for the Tar Heels, he could follow in Ronald Curry’s footsteps with the Raiders. :)
by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jim Callis
How uncomfortable does Jim Callis look on TV.
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 3:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, that dream is dead.
Keith Law says that the Tigers will take Matzek
by Tripon on Jun 9, 2009 3:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Tigers are smart
They just do not care at all about Bud’s slotting at all.
by trainwreck84 on Jun 9, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cool, I loved the 68 Series.
69 was the first series I saw on TV, good way to start out a TV series career.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, look at the setup on MLBTV
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Its kinda amusing.
with Bud trying to emulate David Stern.
by Tripon on Jun 9, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
blah blah blah
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The Padres and Matt Bush are wondering…why did they have to go back five years on that graphic???
by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Holy shit, Ben McDonald! My 1990 Donruss cards call to you. Woo, woo, woo…
by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I remember the buildup of McDonald
injuries did him in
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I had never heard of this call until watching tv today
by trainwreck84 on Jun 9, 2009 3:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Whose the guy on the far right?
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
MLB Scouting Bureau Director Frank Marcos
by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gracias
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For some reason, I am not a big fan of the current host on MLB Network. His voice just seems fake to me, like he’s trying too hard to have a distinctive announcer voice.
If he his normal voice sounds like that, my apologies.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nationals have nicest draft room I have ever seen
by trainwreck84 on Jun 9, 2009 3:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I have many a draft for the NFL and NBA
A few NHL and MLB
by trainwreck84 on Jun 9, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha, for some reason I was only thinking MLB :)
by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Strasburg it is
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Second best pitcher in the NCAA this season ;)
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've seen arguments
that your boy will have a better career
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leake?
Really? I’m as big an ASU homer as there is but I can’t see it. I think he’ll have a long major league career for someone though. Hopefully not the Dbacks.
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leake projects to a mid rotation type and should be able to reach it fairly easily.
Nobody really knows how Strasburg will develop, I guess.
by Tripon on Jun 9, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Prior and McDonald
are good comp’s and while they both started out great, they fizzled due to injuries very quickly.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clock
The clock would be much more dramatic if you could trade picks.
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 3:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Feels weird to watch a draft
without New Yorkers booing everyone
by trainwreck84 on Jun 9, 2009 3:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Strasburg is only 4 months younger than Kershaw. It’s on!!!
by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't see what the big deal is with Ackley.
He just has great contact abilities?
by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 3:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Put up big numbers for a guy that projects at center or second
and this draft is just not that deep with elite talent.
by trainwreck84 on Jun 9, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But
Projected average power and average defensive ability doesn’t sound so gret to me unless he hits like Tony Gwynn. Certainly not worthy of being the first position player picked.
by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keith Law thinks Ackely can develop into a 2nd baseman.
by Tripon on Jun 9, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still not seeing
The high ceiling. If he can’t be a top 5 player at a position he shouldn’t be the number 2 pick.
by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Padres have gotten absolutely nothing out of the first rounders the last six years.
by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 3:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, they got Tate.
Great pick for them in my opinion.
by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tate is a Padre
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ohhhh
Padres go big-time and decide to try to spend money.
by trainwreck84 on Jun 9, 2009 3:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
what's up trainwreck
missed seeing you around.
by bhsportsguy on Jun 9, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, hey!
No Bruin congregating allowed!!! :)
by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Just been stuck doing various things, so have not posted as much recently.
by trainwreck84 on Jun 9, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trying to work with Underdog to go watch a Dodger game in SF in August
Are you going to be around?
by bhsportsguy on Jun 9, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So the Padres went for the high ceiling guy
He’ll never see Peavy in a Padre uniform
by bhsportsguy on Jun 9, 2009 3:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Will Hart ever say, he hates the pick?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Will he ever say anything bad about anyone?
by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahahahaha. Herold Reynolds just called the Padres the most boring team to watch.
by Tripon on Jun 9, 2009 3:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not with McCutcheon
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That game against the Braves was nuts.
Two triples?
by Tripon on Jun 9, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Pads have Adrian Gonzalez and Peavy
I’d much rather watch them than McCutchen.
by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention
The X-Factor
HEART
GRIT
HUSTLE
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Austin Kearns???
That is what you lead off the 98 draft with and call it good?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I still remember the Baseball Prospectus line about a future cover of Baseball Weekly featuring Dunn/Griffey/Kearns with the headline “Best OF Ever”
by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
are we there yet?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Scheppers
Fresno State coach Batesole is on the record as saying he’d take Scheppers over Strasburg. Yes, that’s a non-sequitor.
by kinbote on Jun 9, 2009 3:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I like how it said Tony on the bottom of the screen even though Selig said Jorge.
by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't that a big shock?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Callis had it right on
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keith Law got tipped of that reach pick last week
by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A bit but earlier Law had this pick nailed.
It is definitely a reach and IMO a stupid pick.
Rumors are Pittsburgh wants to use a lot of their amateur budget to sign this Dominican SS Sano.
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’d think so, but the Pirates are stupid.
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
at least they are planning on spending money
in the international market. That budget to sign Sano is probably more then McCourt has spent on the international market since he bought the team
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Assuming you don't count Kuroda
Is there a difference between MLB ready vs. amateur talent
by bhsportsguy on Jun 9, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hart likes Sanchez.
But when does he love a pick?
by Tripon on Jun 9, 2009 3:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
When does he not like a pick?
A nation waits…
by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jason Churchill:
It’s not Matt Bush, but it’s certainly not the best player available. The Padres are just bad at this. Big risk, but if he maxes out, it’s a big payoff. The video Keith took of Tate is interesting when you watch his swing. It’s not a mess, and a lot of prep hitters have bad swings or major concerns with them, at least, cough (Bobby) Borchering.
by Tripon on Jun 9, 2009 3:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He is the #2 for ESPN’s amateur baseball coverage.
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks…I didn’t know because Tripon didn’t include a link with his post. :)
by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
I like taking the high ceiling guys, but then what do I know. I’d compare taking Ackley to the Chiefs taking Tyson Jackson in the NFL draft. Just not enough potential to be worth it.
by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My favorite term for a mullet is “Norco Neckwarmer.” :)
by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Atheltic?
I’m guessing this dude played 1B and didn’t have much range.
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 3:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Goldstein
KG: Sanchez is a tasty burger, Posey and Wieters are the best steaks and that expensive place downtown.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
At least Callis will probably say what he thinks of the picks
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Jints
are in PRIME position right now.
by silverwidow on Jun 9, 2009 3:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Would you go so far as to say ELITE position?
by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big upside
Tough sign. Braves are pissed I bet.
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 3:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Good grief the Giants pitching rotation could be insane
by trainwreck84 on Jun 9, 2009 3:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Their ceiling as a team though is the 2003 Dodgers :)
by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hate to say it
But this is a solid pick for the Giants. Another young arm to add to their stable.
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 3:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They'll still be paying Zito when a lot their pitchers might be ready
But will they figure out who to deal.
by bhsportsguy on Jun 9, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“You’re very high on this guy, aren’t you John [Hart]?”
-Greg Amsinger, MLB Network
by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Holy shit. MLB.com lists Hobgood's weight at 245 lbs.
by Tripon on Jun 9, 2009 3:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hamilton/Beckett/Zito for 1999 is much better than Kearns for 1998
by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What if Matzek falls us???
For signability reasons.
by silverwidow on Jun 9, 2009 3:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oohh
Overdraft for the Braves. Very unusual.
by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 3:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bug Selig is the most awkward man alive
by trainwreck84 on Jun 9, 2009 3:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Seriously
Can you imagine Goodell or Stern doing that?
by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bud Selig’s attempt at humor…his cue card said “pause for laughter.”
by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bud Selig is an idiot.
I can’t believe he just did that.
by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 3:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sleeper pick?
I don’t think you take sleepers at #7 overall John.
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 3:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Tigers could go cheap
this year. Hence, no Matzek.
by silverwidow on Jun 9, 2009 3:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Retard
This guy is a retard (did you guys see The Hangover)
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 3:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well played
I will probably see that again in the theater
by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No need to worry about Wheeler and the Giants
one of my rules to live by:
“never trust a man from a city with a name from a city in another state” (Dallas, GA in this case)
This is a corollary of another rule of mine:
“never trust a man with a geographic location for a name” (one exception: Orlando Hudson)
by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Frank Marcos is the guy on the far right, Phil.
Says he’s a scouting director for MLB.
by Tripon on Jun 9, 2009 3:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Selig needs to have the cards written up
For what to say.
by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Projection
Not much projection with Leake, he’ll move fast.
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 3:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Now it gets fun
BA’s first projected miss.
by kinbote on Jun 9, 2009 3:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I like seeing the Uptons in Dodger uniforms.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
MLB Network commercial, showed the brothers as kids playing little league or t-ball, wearing Dodger shirts
by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Were they dropping bombs back then too?
by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That guy sounds amazing.
Were they standing out at least? Maybe huge guys?
by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really, they were probably 4 years old in the commercial
by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought I just got drafted for a second
by Jacob Burch on Jun 9, 2009 3:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That would be awesome…some later round throwaway pick.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not Matzek
But a guy with a big price tag.
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 3:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Good for the Tigers
Fuck Bud and his slot money.
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 3:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn't think about that.
Does Selig even realize that all of these will sign over slot?
by Tripon on Jun 9, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s probably why he wanted to reduce the slot recommendations by 10%
by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be weird
if we take Alex White AGAIN.
by silverwidow on Jun 9, 2009 3:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Uhhh random awkward clap
Who is running this thing?
by trainwreck84 on Jun 9, 2009 3:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Washington is rumored to take Drew Storen
by silverwidow on Jun 9, 2009 3:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
nailed it
This guy could be ready for this season
by trainwreck84 on Jun 9, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jacob Turner’s DOB — 5/21/91
That makes me feel old for some reason.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes
I root for my fellow 80’s guys.
by trainwreck84 on Jun 9, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Pete Carroll convinced him to take the fall for Reggie Bush too :)
by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
story
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=4246625
Should have taken the Arizona job, Floyd.
by Tripon on Jun 9, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everything I have heard is that the football program won't be hit that hard
by trainwreck84 on Jun 9, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I know…the connections to the program seem loose at best.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some Mississippi
Newspaper broke the story. That’s a bit odd.
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Rockies go for high-priced talent too.
All three teams in our division got good guys.
by trainwreck84 on Jun 9, 2009 4:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Matzek?
What’s with the rest of the NL West getting aggresive all of a sudden?
by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 4:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yea tough sign
Hopefully Uncle Phil gives Horton a lot of money to give to this kid under the table.
by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs