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Draft Day - Dodger Draft Thread

The Major League Draft kicks off today at 03:00 PCT but the Dodgers won't be involved for quite a while as they gave up their number one pick to sign Orlando Hudson and didn't get one back when the Braves signed D Lowe. The first few picks of the Dodgers will go like this thanks to SilverWidow:

#36 Supplemental 1st round pick (for Derek Lowe)
#56 Braves' 2nd round pick (for Lowe)
#65 Dodgers' 2nd round pick
#96 Dodgers' 3rd round pick

Here are some excellent links to whet your appetite for the draft.

Baseball Analysts are covering every aspect of the draft, not just the Dodgers.

Andy Seiler did a fan post on SB Nations Minor League Baseball which  has a review of the Logan White drafts, this is a great read from a different perspective. I wish he went into more detail on all the picks but this is a great read and one I recommend for anyone interested in how Logan White handles his drafts.

Brendan found this review of prior Dodger drafts by Fangraphs

To really make you appreciate how much Logan White means to the organization I did a review of the 1999 - 2001 draft pre - Logan White back in Sept of 2007.

Also back in Sept of 2007 and it needs to be updated I did a review of the 2002/2003 drafts

The current Dodger roster has the following players drafted by Logan White

1st James Loney - 1st round, 2002, 19th pick, High School

2nd Blake DeWitt - 1st round, 2004, 28th pick, High School

C    Russell Martin - 17th round, 2002, 511th pick, Chipola College

CF  Matt Kemp       -  6th round, 2003, 181st pick, High School

SP Chad Billingsley - 1st round, 2003, 24th pick, High School

SP Clayton Kershaw - 1st round, 2006, 7th Pick, High School

SP Eric Stults        - 15th round, 2002, 451st pick, Bethel College

SP James McDonald - 11th round, 2002, 311rd pick, Golden West College

RP - Jonathan Broxton - 2nd round, 2002, 60th pick, High School

RP - Corey Wade -  10th round, 2004, 298th pick, Kentucky Wesleyan College

RP - Brent Leach -  6th round, 2005, 196th pick,  University of Southern Mississippi, Delta State

Complete Dodger Draft provided by Baseball Reference from 2002 - 2008

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Thomas Mendonca

A player I’d like to draft today is Thomas Mendonca. He’s the 3b from Fresno State’s championship team. Scouting reports describe him as athletic and power-hitting, while my memories of him are of his toughness and “clutchness.” Not sure when he’d go, but I wouldn’t mind taking a chance on him.

by kinbote on Jun 9, 2009 12:04 PM PDT reply actions  

...

His NCAA numbers.

And a scouting report from “camdendepot.com”, included video of a swing.

by David Young on Jun 9, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Obviously, his plate discipline is his most glaring flaw, but you can’t really be looking for a perfect player down where we’re picking. His left-handed bat, defense, & power offer enough to dream on.

by kinbote on Jun 9, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Heck, he’s the best shortstop in the entire draft."

Over at MLB’s site they are projecting ~30% of the 1st-rounders to be California kids.

This (of course) caught my eye & would be a good home for Grant since the Dodgers have very little chance of him falling down to 36th. -

“19. St. Louis Cardinals: Grant Green, SS, USC
Green remains one of the tougher guys to pinpoint, with his name still in the mix all over the board. He could go higher or he could slide until the end of the first round. For now, he stays put.”

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: ) Phil – This is from The Baseball Analysts site that you linked above }

“Rich: Although (USC’’s Grant) Green didn’t live up to expectations as a junior, he is still a first-round talent. Heck, he’s the best shortstop in the entire draft.” Fight On!

by Craig88USC on Jun 9, 2009 12:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Green

The big thing with Green is most in the industry don’t think he can stay at SS.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hadn't heard that.

I hope that he can stick at SS though.

by Craig88USC on Jun 9, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

really?

Cause that’s been pretty much the big talking point with Green for pretty much the entire year. That and his disappointing junior year.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Power numbers were very disappointing though especially after his performance in the Cape Cod League.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some scouts I talked to think that Green was suffering from a case of draftitis. Wouldn’t surprise me, but most of the hype on him as died, especially with the questions of his position.

In this morning’s mock draft, BA didn’t even have him in the first round. Sounds like he can go anywhere from 8 to somewhere in the supplemental round.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

My morning paper - OC Reg "... (Green) could be better than Casey Blake..."

Green’s advocates say he has the potential to develop into a “five-tool” player. Even the scout who said Green isn’t a top-five choice said he could be “better than Casey Blake,” who just so happens to be the starting third baseman for the NL West-leading Dodgers.

by Craig88USC on Jun 9, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Trojan fans are great. You criticize one of their own and they defend him to the death.

Green could be 5 tool player but it probably won’t be at a premium up the middle position. Here is some info on him from Keith Law

Green remains one of the top college bats in this draft, but his stock has taken a hit due to his light power production and problems on defense at short.
n the field, Green is athletic enough to play shortstop but has had trouble both with fielding and throwing all spring.
n a deeper year, he’d probably slip to the back of the first round or the sandwich round because of the issues with his swing and defense

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Still we'd be thrilled to get him with the 36th

pick, don’t you think?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Of course

Never said I wouldn’t be did I?

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was just curious

if you were down on him.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not at all

but it can’t be argued that he had a disappointing draft year. If he hadn’t he would be a lock for the top 5. Something Trojan fan can’t wrap his head around.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

keith law LOL

You have to do better than that!

by Craig88USC on Jun 9, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

What's wrong with Law?

He’s been scouting players ever since March.

by Tripon on Jun 9, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

because he doesn’t agree with him.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is a Pac-10 fight going to break out

we need some UCLA folks to step.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

How is taken out of context? He’s had a disappointing year, there are question marks about his defense, and he’s obviously fell on draft boards.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just read the whole piece. You were selective.

I don’t blame you. Agree to disagree.
See what happens real soon.

by Craig88USC on Jun 9, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really?

Cause that’s been the main talking point with Green for pretty much the entire season. That and his disappointing junior year.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

How about taking

Carlos Beltran’s nephew (in the 2nd or 3rd rounds?) Looks like a player.

Meanwhile, some good analysis from Steve Henson in his draft preview on Yahoo, broken out by college and HS. On the Yahoo Sports MLB home page.

by underdog on Jun 9, 2009 1:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Interesting to note

we don’t have one player on the major league roster from a big time College baseball program.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 1:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Though I was pleased we drafted Clayton Allison

last year after watching him pitch Fresno State to the NCAA World Series Championship last summer, just because he was fun to watch.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even then

Purdue isn’t exactly a big time baseball program.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

2008 draft had several big college players drafted

Russell from Texas
Lindblom from Purdue
Buss from USC
Allison from Fresno State
St. Clair from Rice
Austin Young from Standford

Could see three of those make it to the show

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks

he really changed up in 2008 and the results might be worth it.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seems like it

I remember Canuckdodger (I Believe that’s his handle) commenting on Logan White changing up his approach in last year’s draft on the old Dodgerthoughts site. I will try and find it.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here ya go

http://dodgerthoughts.baseballtoaster.com/archives/1013023.html

Some of his conclusions ended up being a tad wrong (Linblom going back to starting for example) but it is an interesting read.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting

But not surprising. Dodgers have always leaned HS especially in the Logan White era. Seems like he favors juco players as well.

Recently he’s dipped into the college ranks (Russell comes to mind as a player from a big program)

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait a minute

Andre Ethier = Arizona State. Drafted by another team, but still.

by silverwidow on Jun 9, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can't count, he was drafted by another team.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

For all the love we give Logan

other then Kemp we are still missing an impact bat from all his drafts. His strong suit and the scoutings strong suit certainly seems to be finding power arms that have major league ability.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Well what about Martin? Slow start this year but I’d still call him an impact bat.

But yea, he’s focused on pitching with his first rounders.

Also sort of ironic that one of the better bats he drafted (Loney) was coveted by other teams as a pitcher.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Impact Bat?

Not in my book. This is 2009, not 2007.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

He has showed something though

and he’s still young. I think it is a bit early to give up on Martin as an impact back.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not giving up

but you can’t call a guy with a sub 300% slug% an impact bat. Against RHP he’s been the worse position hitter in baseball after 1/3 of the season.

Even at his best, he was a good bat, but not an impact bat. Even Kemp has not yet delivered on what I would call an impact bat. Someone who can post a 120 OPS for a full year. I don’t think I’m setting the bar to high for what an impact bat is.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

List of players with a 120+ OPS since 1954 for the Dodgers

http://www.bb-ref.com/play-index/shareit/kNwv

who qualified for the batting title with 502 plate appearances.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Total is unchanged

since McDonald isn’t on the 25-man

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

True- but I consider him part of the 25 man because

he will be before the year is out.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Troncoso is the only e Amateur international signee

on the active big squad with Kuo on the DL.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Sounds like the top 8 is set

According to JIm Callis of BA

These eight picks look fairly certain:

1. Nationals: San Diego State righthander Stephen Strasburg.
2. Mariners: North Carolina first baseman Dustin Ackley.
3. Padres: Georgia HS outfielder Donavan Tate.
4. Pirates: Boston College catcher Tony Sanchez.
5. Orioles: California HS righthander Matt Hobgood.
6. Giants: Georgia HS righthander Zack Wheeler.
7. Braves: Vanderbilt lefthander Mike Minor.
8. Reds: North Carolina righhander Alex White.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Totally sucks to see Alex White

going with that early. While Price wanted to go to College and we never had a shot at him, we did have a shot at Alex White if McCourt had opened his wallet.

Kyle Blair is also expected to be a number one pick next year. If he ends up being a top ten it will really show how shortsighted Frank/Ned have been with trusting Logan on his draft picks and not going the extra mile to bring these high school kids into the fold.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

White and Blair were the ones that got away. 2 Big screw ups by management. Blair had some arm problems this season and couldn’t finish the year for USD. But if he signs with the Dodgers he might not have those problems with lower workloads.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thing is

that one thing Logan has proven is his ability to nail these high school power arms. When have that going for you, you should take advantage of it for as long as he’s in the organization.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Zach Cox

Keep an eye on Zach Cox also, he’ll be playing as a freshman for Arkansas in Omaha. In two more years we could be talking about him as “one that got away” :(

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

What is Robert Stock's

stock these days? He was like the best prep high schooler in the West Valley and then skipped his senior year to go to USC.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've read

that his stock is back up after two bad years as 2-way player. He didn’t perform as the Trojans starting catcher but may how found a niche as a starting pitcher.

He could be an interesting pick because he’s young for a college player because of his situation. And his arm is pretty fresh for a college junior since he started off as a two way player. He looked great against us this year.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was a big jump

he attempted going in as USC’s starting catcher at a senior high school age.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

The John David Booty of baseball, if you will. Or would that be Josh Booty? :)

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha

I was gonna say, another guy who screwed up going to USC too early. I bet the song girls were worth it though!

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Must be mighty fine

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still believe Logan White does not like to throw money at picks.

He likes guys that are not high on BA’s list, he signs guys at slot. Now, its fair to argue that McCourt hamstrings him with a budget but if they thought they could sign White, why wouldn’t they have drafted him higher in 2006.

Kyle Blair still puzzles me because White has never made that kind of pick (signability issues) with that high a pick before.

by bhsportsguy on Jun 9, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

BA is penciling in Stanford closer Drew Storen at 10. Detroit’s pick is up in the air. They’ve shown that they will go overslot for players (Porcello) but with the economy in Detroit and such they might not want to do that again.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tate

I’m surprised the Padres are taking Tate. He has big money demands and I didn’t think the Padres would be spending that much money in the draft. If they would why not just take Matzek. He seems to have less question marks surrounding him as a high school player than Tate does. Perhaps there is more risk because he is a position player. Anyways color me surprised.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want Matzek

He’s sinking like a rock due to his high contract demands.

by Tripon on Jun 9, 2009 2:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Ditto

Arguably the best HS arm in the draft!

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

He probably still won't drop out of the first round.

The Yankees or the Red Sox will snap him up at least, but damn. I want him.

by Tripon on Jun 9, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great minds think alike ;)

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

But

surely the Red Sox or Yankees will grab him don’t you think? The Red Sox especially have been very aggressive in their drafts.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seven minutes

the suspense is killing me.

Kind of like when the Clippers will be on the clock for the first overall pick:)

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:51 PM PDT reply actions  

And the Clippers select:

Jeff Ross: OH MY GOD! ITS TAYLOR HANSBROUGH. THE CLIPPERS SELECT TAYLOR HANSBROUGH IN A UPSET.

by Tripon on Jun 9, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Doesn't DT

need you over there

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jinx

Don’t jinx them, the Clippers could easily screw that up.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can't screw up the overall first pick

when it is a no – brainer. Besides Elgin is no longer in charge of the draft.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

teams have 4 minutes in between picks, and 1 minute in between picks after that tonight.

tomorrow’s portion (round 4 on) will be via conference call

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 2:52 PM PDT reply actions  

So we will barely have our first pick done

by the time I leave for the game.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 2:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Per Keith Law’s chat this afternoon, I didn’t realize that teams wanting to draft re-entries that didn’t sign with them (i.e. Aaron Crow with the Nats or Tanner Scheppers with the Pirates last year) have to get permission from the player to re-draft him in year 2.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 2:56 PM PDT reply actions  

It makes sense though.

Why should a team gets a 2nd chance of screwing up your negotiations again?

by Tripon on Jun 9, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just because two sides can’t agree doesn’t mean one side screwed up.

The rule, to me, prevents vindictive “keep away” drafting, like if the Nats re-drafted Aaron Crow just to say “I’ll show you” by not signing him again and making him wait a year. Then again, that’s stupid for the team to waste a pick on, and they would pay dearly anyway.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yea

Interesting, I didn’t know that either.

Crow didn’t make Law’s mock draft, I would be excited if he fell all the way to our pick. Scheppers seems like more of a medical risk than Crow but recently hit triple digits in an Independent League game. Wouldn’t mind either guy at 35 obviously.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

BP's Kevin Goldstein

has Schepper and Crow going in the first 15. He also had Matzek going to the Orioles

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds like the O’s are debating between Hobgood (easy sign) and Wheeler (tough sign). If Wheeler is in the mix why not Matzek though? He carries a pretty heavy price tag if the rumors are right.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuentes from BP
Massive Helium Watch: Reymond Fuentes, OF. The top talent in Puerto Rico has been in the US this week, and his private workouts have been nothing short of stunning. He’s a 70-plus runner with impressive bat speed and some power, and the teams that like him think he could develop into a true power/speed threat in center field. He wasn’t even in my Top 50 on Saturday, but in the last 24 hours he’s been attached to teams as high as Detroit at #9 (where his workout for them bordered on legendary), to plenty of teams picking in the 20s. Most likely to take a shot at him? The Astros at 21, the Angels with one of their picks at 24 and 25, or the Rays at 30.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Seems so strange to see the Rays with the 30th pick

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

cool

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

More BP on our James McDonald
Don’t you, forget about him

James McDonald, RHP, Dodgers (Triple-A Albuquerque)
Monday’s stats: 7 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 2 BB, 10 K
McDonald opened camp in the big leagues as part of the Dodgers rotation, but control issues moved him to the bullpen, and further control issues sent him back to Double-A. Don’t let those 18.2 innings suddenly write him off as a prospect. His ceiling isn’t tremendous as a guy whose secondary stuff is better than his heater, but he’s striking out more than a batter per inning at Triple-A while limiting Pacific Coast League hitters to a .226 batting average while most importantly, throwing strikes. He’ll almost certainly be back at some point.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Donovan Tate is a really good football prospect

But he is a better baseball one and he lacks a defined position in football, so I hope he does fall to A’s and they take him.

by trainwreck84 on Jun 9, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

If he plays QB for the Tar Heels, he could follow in Ronald Curry’s footsteps with the Raiders. :)

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jim Callis

How uncomfortable does Jim Callis look on TV.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 3:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Well, that dream is dead.

Keith Law says that the Tigers will take Matzek

by Tripon on Jun 9, 2009 3:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh well

Not surprising, Tigers are very aggressive in the draft. At least the Giants or Padres aren’t getting him.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tigers are smart

They just do not care at all about Bud’s slotting at all.

by trainwreck84 on Jun 9, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cool, I loved the 68 Series.

69 was the first series I saw on TV, good way to start out a TV series career.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Wow, look at the setup on MLBTV

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Its kinda amusing.

with Bud trying to emulate David Stern.

by Tripon on Jun 9, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

blah blah blah

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:11 PM PDT reply actions  

The Padres and Matt Bush are wondering…why did they have to go back five years on that graphic???

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Holy shit, Ben McDonald! My 1990 Donruss cards call to you. Woo, woo, woo…

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:13 PM PDT reply actions  

I remember the buildup of McDonald

injuries did him in

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Whose the guy on the far right?

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:15 PM PDT reply actions  

MLB Scouting Bureau Director Frank Marcos

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gracias

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

For some reason, I am not a big fan of the current host on MLB Network. His voice just seems fake to me, like he’s trying too hard to have a distinctive announcer voice.

If he his normal voice sounds like that, my apologies.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Strasburg it is

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Second best pitcher in the NCAA this season ;)

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've seen arguments

that your boy will have a better career

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Leake?

Really? I’m as big an ASU homer as there is but I can’t see it. I think he’ll have a long major league career for someone though. Hopefully not the Dbacks.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Prior and McDonald

are good comp’s and while they both started out great, they fizzled due to injuries very quickly.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clock

The clock would be much more dramatic if you could trade picks.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 3:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Strasburg is only 4 months younger than Kershaw. It’s on!!!

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Yea

This would have been Kershaw’s draft year had he gone to A&M

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

But

Projected average power and average defensive ability doesn’t sound so gret to me unless he hits like Tony Gwynn. Certainly not worthy of being the first position player picked.

by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Still not seeing

The high ceiling. If he can’t be a top 5 player at a position he shouldn’t be the number 2 pick.

by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well

He can really hit. Power might not be there but he could be a +.300 hitter with good on base skills. The main thing is if he can play CF.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tate is a Padre

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Ohhhh

Padres go big-time and decide to try to spend money.

by trainwreck84 on Jun 9, 2009 3:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Will Hart ever say, he hates the pick?

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Will he ever say anything bad about anyone?

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Austin Kearns???

That is what you lead off the 98 draft with and call it good?

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:26 PM PDT reply actions  

I still remember the Baseball Prospectus line about a future cover of Baseball Weekly featuring Dunn/Griffey/Kearns with the headline “Best OF Ever”

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

are we there yet?

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by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Scheppers

Fresno State coach Batesole is on the record as saying he’d take Scheppers over Strasburg. Yes, that’s a non-sequitor.

by kinbote on Jun 9, 2009 3:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah

I like how it said Tony on the bottom of the screen even though Selig said Jorge.

by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Avery Morris” syndrome

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isn't that a big shock?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Callis had it right on

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Keith Law got tipped of that reach pick last week

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

A bit but earlier Law had this pick nailed.

It is definitely a reach and IMO a stupid pick.

Rumors are Pittsburgh wants to use a lot of their amateur budget to sign this Dominican SS Sano.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’d think so, but the Pirates are stupid.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

at least they are planning on spending money

in the international market. That budget to sign Sano is probably more then McCourt has spent on the international market since he bought the team

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jason Churchill:

It’s not Matt Bush, but it’s certainly not the best player available. The Padres are just bad at this. Big risk, but if he maxes out, it’s a big payoff. The video Keith took of Tate is interesting when you watch his swing. It’s not a mess, and a lot of prep hitters have bad swings or major concerns with them, at least, cough (Bobby) Borchering.

by Tripon on Jun 9, 2009 3:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Who is Jason Churchill?

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

He is the #2 for ESPN’s amateur baseball coverage.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks…I didn’t know because Tripon didn’t include a link with his post. :)

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really?

I like taking the high ceiling guys, but then what do I know. I’d compare taking Ackley to the Chiefs taking Tyson Jackson in the NFL draft. Just not enough potential to be worth it.

by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Norco

Got my drivers license there!

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 3:35 PM PDT reply actions  

My favorite term for a mullet is “Norco Neckwarmer.” :)

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Atheltic?

I’m guessing this dude played 1B and didn’t have much range.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 3:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Goldstein
KG: Sanchez is a tasty burger, Posey and Wieters are the best steaks and that expensive place downtown.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:37 PM PDT reply actions  

At least Callis will probably say what he thinks of the picks

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 3:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Jints

are in PRIME position right now.

by silverwidow on Jun 9, 2009 3:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Would you go so far as to say ELITE position?

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Big upside

Tough sign. Braves are pissed I bet.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 3:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Yay

They didn’t take Matzek.

by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 3:39 PM PDT reply actions  

“You’re very high on this guy, aren’t you John [Hart]?”
-Greg Amsinger, MLB Network

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Hamilton/Beckett/Zito for 1999 is much better than Kearns for 1998

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Oohh

Overdraft for the Braves. Very unusual.

by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 3:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Bud Selig’s attempt at humor…his cue card said “pause for laughter.”

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:44 PM PDT reply actions  

They

did go cheap and need last year with Perry so it’s not out of the quesetion.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Retard

This guy is a retard (did you guys see The Hangover)

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 3:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Well played

I will probably see that again in the theater

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

No need to worry about Wheeler and the Giants

one of my rules to live by:

“never trust a man from a city with a name from a city in another state” (Dallas, GA in this case)

This is a corollary of another rule of mine:

“never trust a man with a geographic location for a name” (one exception: Orlando Hudson)

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Projection

Not much projection with Leake, he’ll move fast.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 3:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Now it gets fun

BA’s first projected miss.

by kinbote on Jun 9, 2009 3:53 PM PDT reply actions  

I like seeing the Uptons in Dodger uniforms.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:53 PM PDT reply actions  

MLB Network commercial, showed the brothers as kids playing little league or t-ball, wearing Dodger shirts

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

They were no Bryce Harper :)

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

That guy sounds amazing.

Were they standing out at least? Maybe huge guys?

by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not really, they were probably 4 years old in the commercial

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not Matzek

But a guy with a big price tag.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 3:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Good for the Tigers

Fuck Bud and his slot money.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 3:55 PM PDT reply actions  

I didn't think about that.

Does Selig even realize that all of these will sign over slot?

by Tripon on Jun 9, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s probably why he wanted to reduce the slot recommendations by 10%

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

nailed it

This guy could be ready for this season

by trainwreck84 on Jun 9, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Storen

Wonder if they’ll keep him as a reliever or try him out as a starter. This guy has really good stuff.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jacob Turner’s DOB — 5/21/91

That makes me feel old for some reason.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 3:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes

I root for my fellow 80’s guys.

by trainwreck84 on Jun 9, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shit

Damn. At least it’s not the Dbacks.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 4:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Padres

jury is still out on Tate. He’s a great athlete that’s for sure.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Matzek?

What’s with the rest of the NL West getting aggresive all of a sudden?

by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 4:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Yea tough sign

Hopefully Uncle Phil gives Horton a lot of money to give to this kid under the table.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Crow

Solid pick for the Royals. He’ll move fast. Nice young talent to go along with Moustakas and Hosmer.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

really?

Even top college talent like Green and White on the board? Or even Scheppers?

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is Jon Hart the Jay Bilas of the MLB draft?

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 4:21 PM PDT reply actions  

No, remember when Bilas criticized Josh Smith so badly

That his parents starting talk crap about him during the draft?

by trainwreck84 on Jun 9, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yea Bilas can be harsh. He killed the Josh Smith picked. He also killed the Marcus Williams pick. I think he’s pretty good.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

But that sounds hilarious. I want to see that.

by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

When did Washington hire skinny Rob Reiner?

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 4:21 PM PDT reply actions  

MLB Draft

Definitely isn’t known for the excitement.

by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just wait until it gets into conference call territory tomorrow!

Then we get to hear when one team puts everyone on hold and we hear hold music for 5-10 seconds before someone at MLB mutes them out :)

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

The conference call part, at least…I may have projected a bit from my own standard office experience about the hold music though :)

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sometimes it’s funny, like when teams have their reps announce picks, so Lasorda will preface the Dodger pick with “The great Los Angeles Dodgers select…” or something like that.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Every man with earrings has lame earrings.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not true

Sometimes they look good. Look it up. ;-)

by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

I just did not want to make anyone feel bad. : )

by trainwreck84 on Jun 9, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I miss the conference calls

It was lot more exciting especially when they would read off their draft number

by bhsportsguy on Jun 9, 2009 4:24 PM PDT reply actions  

MLBTV is going to have to go away

from the lifers if they want some interesting commentary. Most of these guys won’t pan out, yet they are all great picks.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 4:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Are any draft commentators ever interesting

The thing is for football and basketball they usually have tape.

by bhsportsguy on Jun 9, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't about that,

The NBA draft is always hilarious because the TV crews on ESPN or TNT crews will act crazy in order to make it entertaining.

by Tripon on Jun 9, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah but

People actually watch college football and basketball, so they know who the players are. I don’t even know who most of the guys getting picked are other than reading a line or two about them.

by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I need to set up a TwitterBOt

JohnHartBot that @MLBDraft with “That was a great pick”

by Jacob Burch on Jun 9, 2009 4:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Will Vin Scully ever get to pronounce “Bobby Borchering”?

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 4:27 PM PDT reply actions  

LOL

love the shot of the crowd

by trainwreck84 on Jun 9, 2009 4:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Isn’t Notre Dame in South Bend, Indiana, and not “Notre Dame, Indiana?”

Bud Selig should be the Commissioner of Geography

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 4:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Nope

He’s right—Notre Dame has a “Dodgertown-esque” incorporated city.

by Jacob Burch on Jun 9, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had to do some work with ND Press

and would always have to send my letters to Notre Dame, IN

by Jacob Burch on Jun 9, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Couldn’t they have reached you if someone addressed the letter to “Hell?”

I would imagine it’s like letters to Santa or the Easter Bunny that just go to on central place

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Keith Law: The Diamondbacks were resigned to the idea that Borchering wasn’t going to get to them. He’s an upside player of a different sort, as all of his upside is in his bat — with the expectation that he’ll only play first base down the road.

Jason Churchill: Lot of risk there, since he’s a 1B only and hasn’t the best swing. Big-time bat speed and a switch hitter, though. Upside pick. I’d play him at first immediately and develop his bat.

by Tripon on Jun 9, 2009 4:36 PM PDT reply actions  

are we there yet?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 4:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Jason Churchill: I’d bet the farm they try Pollock at second base.

Keith Law: I have to think this is kind of a dream scenario for Arizona — two players they really wanted, at least one of whom looked like he’d go ahead of them in Borchering. I know some teams were looking at moving Pollock to second, like Jason said, and the Cardinals worked him out at shortstop. If he can convert to the infield, he’s a top-ten talent.

by Tripon on Jun 9, 2009 4:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Dallas Green looks way more mellow there

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 4:40 PM PDT reply actions  

If Brad Lidge delivered this pick for the Phillies, would they lose it?

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 4:41 PM PDT reply actions  

They would hire Usain Bolt to deliver the picks.

Hell, I’d rather they drafted Bolt

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

On the MLB.com feed, they have a Twitter feed of a lot of the insiders…this is from the A’s:

W/ our pick up, 5 players in our top 13 are still on the board..just showing that there’s a lot of difference of opinion in this yrs draft

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 4:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Almost at 500 comments

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

If anyone is interested in seeing just about every nook and cranny of Petco Park (perhaps in advance of seeing Manny on July 3?), someone on Gaslamp Ball took in a game yesterday and posted some photos here.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 4:48 PM PDT reply actions  

I read that

if we get rained out on our road trip then Manny would not debut until July 4th. Just a FYI for the July 3rd Petco crowd.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least it’s a weekend

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

John Hart

loved Bo Diaz so there you go

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 4:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Another great pick.

Mr. Hart,

I don’t think it’s possible for your analysis to be any more boring. 95% of the people watching have no idea who these players are, if you just call each one a great pick they don’t glean any insight from you at all. Please say something else one time.

Sincerely,
Brendan

by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 4:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Are the MLB Network guys

 told to not say anything negative about any pick? Because I’ve been mostly listening to them so far while working and every pick has been “great” with no doubts or anything. Just seems odd. Or maybe they’re just in good moods!

(Sorry if this was covered before, been trying to catch up on comments here)

by underdog on Jun 9, 2009 5:00 PM PDT reply actions  

They are the counter balance to Ken Gurnick :)

by Eric Stephen on Jun 9, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah

I see everyone basically mocking this in the comments right above mine. :-)

And a lot of these guys are ball players and athletes too! Amazing!

by underdog on Jun 9, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just waiting

for the Dodgers first pick is probably the reason for most of us.

Maybe there will be at least a different person other than Bud Selig in the next round.

by underdog on Jun 9, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

If MLBTV

uses Hart again next year then my hopes for them will fall off a cliff. They have Callis, how many times have they used him?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 5:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Maybe he's mocking their comments off camera

To be fair, Goldstein at BP hasn’t exactly said to much negative about most of these picks either.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

or aposltes

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 5:07 PM PDT reply actions  

BP does love the White Sox pick

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 5:08 PM PDT reply actions  

All of them.

No team has made a mistake thus far. Each and every pick has been excellent, a future All-Star. You are missing out on history. Just ask John Hart.

by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Angels

go for back to back outfielders. Interesting

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 5:10 PM PDT reply actions  

It would be aweome

if the Dodgers are the first pick they scratch their heads at.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 5:10 PM PDT reply actions  

I was thinking this earlier

“I don’t know what ot think of this” from John Hart would convince me he’s a future first ballot HoFer

by Jacob Burch on Jun 9, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

hah hah

jinx! (see my post below)

by underdog on Jun 9, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm afraid

that the first time these guys will say something critical will be with the Dodgers pick. Hopefully they’ll pick a gamer, or an athlete.

by underdog on Jun 9, 2009 5:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Randal Grichuk
Jason Churchill: I’ll refer to Keith on this one, but it seems to be a bit of a reach.

Keith Law: Worst pick of the first round for me. Has pull power but he’s a corner outfielder with an extreme pull approach. Will be very, very curious to see how he does once he reaches high A-ball.

by Tripon on Jun 9, 2009 5:11 PM PDT reply actions  

LOLLLL

Reynolds has declared we will remember Mike Trout, simply for showing up to the draft.

by trainwreck84 on Jun 9, 2009 5:12 PM PDT reply actions  

I might remember him

Just because of how hilarious that whole setup was.

by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Everyone else will be a bust

Might as well stop the draft. Harold Reynolds has made his declaration

by trainwreck84 on Jun 9, 2009 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Trout, trout...

let it all out… these are the things I care about… come on! I’m drafting you, come on!

by underdog on Jun 9, 2009 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

D Young

batting 3rd and playing 2nd is 2/2 tonight so far.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 5:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Mike Trout
Ed’s note: Keith Law grabbing food.

Jason Churchill: Trout is a power-hitting right-handed bat who, if he can stick in center field, is a good value at 25 for the Angels. He may ask for well over slot — those were the rumors coming in — but on talent alone, a solid selection.

Best available — Scheppers, Paxton, Stassi, Myers, Arnett, Bullock, Fuentes, Poythress.

by Tripon on Jun 9, 2009 5:16 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm guessing the next pick

Will be either a five tool stud or a future ace. Just going out on a limb.

by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 5:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Good Pick - Hart.

Gamer. Baseball Player. Steady.

by Jacob Burch on Jun 9, 2009 5:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Reynolds:The Mariners are changing their ways! (with a sly smile)

That’s why Bavasi got fired. He forgot that he was supposed to select baseball players. Stupid Bill!!!

by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 5:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Some good players are going to be left

on the board when the Dodgers pick soon. (All silliness aside.) Including maybe Beltran’s nephew!

by underdog on Jun 9, 2009 5:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Goldstein less then impressed with the Franklin pick

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 5:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Be surprised

to see White go for a college guy first esp with his injury history but maybe he can’t resist Scheppers.

I want the Santa Monica HS kid!

by underdog on Jun 9, 2009 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't think he'd

last quite this long but he was tantalizingly close to the Dodgers…

by underdog on Jun 9, 2009 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Red Sox don't rush players to the big leagues

That’s not a hard thing to do when your tea mis stacked. There’s no room for them.

by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 5:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Nick Franklin
Jason Churchill: This might be the worst pick of the round, perhaps other than Grichuk. Franklin could stick at short, but is a little short on tools to be considered a future all-star.

Keith Law: I’m stunned — this seems like it has to be a below-slot deal. Otherwise it’s a big overdraft for me.

by Tripon on Jun 9, 2009 5:25 PM PDT reply actions  

LOL

Seriously, is he like a malfunctioning robot?

“This pick is good. Good move. I like this pick. BEEP!” “Please insert girder.”

by underdog on Jun 9, 2009 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Slade Heathcott

That’s a damn cool name. Plus, he’s a baseball player.

by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 5:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Best name in the draft

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bay goes from 1 to 30, not so easy now, right boys

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 5:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Livan Washington

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 5:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Good pitching available

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 5:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Hate having the Diamondbacks picking right before us

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 9, 2009 5:33 PM PDT reply actions  

I swear to God

I have to thank Hart because I haven’t laughed this loud and hard for days. My coworkers think I’m psychotic.

by underdog on Jun 9, 2009 5:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Lol

Luckily I’m alone at home, or my family would think I’m psychotic.

by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Prediction

The Dodgers will draft a gamer, and/or athlete,.

And they will love the pick!

WHOA — Hart just said something semi-critical and/or worried.

by underdog on Jun 9, 2009 5:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Baseball player

Baseball junkie. Solid player. I like the move.

by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 5:42 PM PDT reply actions  

just said he's "solid/average"

that’s like a big dis on Hart’s scale!

by underdog on Jun 9, 2009 5:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Must be the worst pick of the draft!

He’s only going to end up being an average major leaguer.

by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Updated John Hart Scale

Solid → Good → Great → Great-great

by Jacob Burch on Jun 9, 2009 5:43 PM PDT reply actions  

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

They are leaving!!!!!!!! I need more John Hart.

by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 5:44 PM PDT reply actions  

33 SEA – Steven Baron
34 COL – Rex Brothers

by silverwidow on Jun 9, 2009 6:03 PM PDT reply actions  

go get em logan

I'm nobody's fool, least of all yours

by BoulderDodger on Jun 9, 2009 6:04 PM PDT reply actions  

What’s the 35th pick?

by silverwidow on Jun 9, 2009 6:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Aaron Miller

From Baylor University LHP

by spike238e on Jun 9, 2009 6:05 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm sorry

But Rex Brothers is not a name.

by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 6:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Aaron Miller

is a great athlete!

But, no, really, he is! A two-way player. Guess they drafted him as a pitcher though, is what they said on MLB.

by underdog on Jun 9, 2009 6:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Aaron Miller report from BA
AARON MILLER, LHP/OF, BAYLOR

Baylor was supposed to have one of college baseball’s best rotations, and instead it has been the biggest disappointment. Kendal Volz, a projected early first-rounder when the season opened, has seen his stuff regress. A pair of possible second-rounders, Shawn Tolleson (elbow issues) and Craig Fritsch (command woes and a lack of mental toughness), fared even worse, and the trio combined for just eight wins this season. Though he faded down the stretch, Miller was the Bears’ best pitcher for much of the spring and pitched himself into the top two rounds in the process. Though he hadn’t pitched regularly since high school, Miller repeatedly showed a 91-94 mph fastball and a nasty 82-83 mph slider. His command is spotty, but the 6-foot-3, 200-pounder has the athleticism to improve with more experience. Miller first emerged as a top pitching prospect when he threw 90-91 mph as a high school sophomore, but by his senior year he was more highly regarded as a right fielder in the mold of Paul O’Neill. Miller didn’t want to pitch as a freshman for Baylor and made just six mound appearances in 2008. He still started in right field for the Bears when he wasn’t pitching, and hit .310 while rankings second on the club with 12 homers and 47 RBIs. But it’s clear now that his future will be on the mound.

Thanks me later!

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 6:08 PM PDT reply actions  

College pitcher BUT

less wear and tear on him because of his two-way abilities. Good size and looks like ther’es some projection in him

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 6:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Keith Law's report on him (less promising)
Miller wasn’t on many radar screens coming into the spring because he was behind bigger names on the Baylor pitching staff and because surgery on his nonthrowing shoulder cut his Cape Cod League season short in 2008. He’s a two-pitch reliever who was pressed into starting duty when Baylor’s vaunted starting staff of Kendal Volz, Shawn Tolleson and Craig Fritsch fell down and went boom. Miller’s fastball is solid-to-average at 88-92 mph with hard, boring action in toward right-handed hitters, and he has a sharp, long-breaking slider with pretty good tilt at 81-83 mph that looks as though it should wipe out left-handed hitters. He drifts off the rubber early but otherwise has a clean delivery, and his arm action isn’t too long. He doesn’t have great physical projection and may not have the velocity to work as a starter in pro ball. But as a two-pitch reliever with a good breaking ball, he’s a good third-round value.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 6:10 PM PDT reply actions  

I was thinking

Tyler Skaggs a prep from Santa Monica.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 6:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Interesting

But I really wanted Scheppers.

by Brendan Scolari on Jun 9, 2009 6:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Medical Reports

Medical reports must be really scary on him. Didn’t think he’d fall this far.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dbacks

Dbacks are doing really well.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 6:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Law is down on him as a hitter
He does play the outfield but has nowhere near the bat to make him a prospect as a position player.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

A bit

but remember we didn’t have a high first rounder this year. This was about the area where we took Lindblom last season.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Full Reports

Keith Law

Smith came into the spring as a potential top-40 pick, but his struggles on the mound and a season-ending oblique injury are going to push him at least to the second round. When healthy, Smith has a big fastball with sink. He is a potential impact reliever if he can improve his command, sitting close to 96 — as a starter, Smith would sit 92-93 — and he gets hard downward motion on the pitch from his arm slot and grip. His secondary pitches need work — his arm is visibly slower on his changeup, and he doesn’t get consistent break on his downer curve. In fact, everything Smith throws is vertical (fastball with sink, changeup without tail, 12-to-6 curve), making it tough for him to pitch laterally, and his arm slot isn’t good for a slider. He’s also had command issues, exacerbated this year with control trouble. He’s a good athlete with a quick arm, and he takes a nice long stride to the plate during his delivery. He does play the outfield but has nowhere near the bat to make him a prospect as a position player. Smith’s struggles and early departure from the mound may have some teams sleeping on him despite his track record of better stuff and performances; call me old-fashioned, but I think guys who hit 96 with sink are good fliers to take.

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California’s lefthanded-hitting, righty-pitching Smith perplexed scouts all spring. At 6-foot-2, 220 pounds, he has premium size to go with athleticism,. He had emerged as a premium prospect last summer with USA Baseball’s college national team, when he hit .327 with three homers (second on the team) while also throwing nine scoreless innings, striking out 11. Smith flashes terrific stuff on the mound but struggled in getting hitters out. After early-season difficulties on the mound he has rarely pitched since, finally being relegated only to a DH role by a lat muscle strain. As a pitcher, Smith fires a 92-94 mph fastball, which exhibits fine arm side movement but is straight to his glove side. His 82-84 mph changeup resembles an old-fashioned palm ball, and that pitch shows both arm side movement and “drop dead” action. Unfortunately for Smith, he has poor command and control and gets behind hitters too often. A pitcher with his quality of stuff should not get hit as hard or as frequently as he did this year, when he walked 20 in 20 innings. As an outfielder, Smith has a well above average right fielders arm, and his long, sweeping lefthanded swing produces provocative home run power. However, the length and severe uppercut path of his swing may produce holes that professional pitchers can exploit. Observers who saw him regularly with Team USA last summer believe Smith might be better suited for the everyday player role than working on the mound, and see him as fitting the right-field profile perfectly if his bat emerges. However, plenty of scouts believe in Smith’s future as a short stint relief man. To be successful in that venture, Smith must greatly improve his command. No one doubts he has the raw stuff to succeed in a middle relief capacity, but he may make it as a hitter as well.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 6:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Same with Lindblom

and he’s starting right now.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 6:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Garret Gould

Keith Law

Gould has one of the better arms in the high school class after the five big guns (Matzek, Miller, Purke, Wheeler, Turner), but a rough delivery will keep him out of the next group of prep arms selected once those five are off the board. Gould’s stuff is certainly as good as anyone’s after that quintet. He’ll sit 90-92 and hold that velocity for an entire outing with good downhill plane on the pitch. His out pitch is his power curve, 79-81 mph with a very sharp 12-to-6 break. But he doesn’t always finish the pitch the way he should, leaving the break a little shorter and softer than it is when he really snaps one off. The curve is good enough that his changeup is a show-me pitch now, although he’ll need to improve his feel for it and get his arm working a little quicker on it. His delivery has multiple problems. He reaches down and back after taking his hand out of his glove, adding length and some stress on his shoulder when he starts to come forward. He lands very stiffly and often bounces on his front foot after releasing the ball. He has some head violence as he finishes — not a lot, but enough that it’s noticeable. The implications of these delivery issues for his future health and command probably will push him down half a round or so, but the stuff and body are good enough to keep him in the top two rounds. He has committed to Wichita State.

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Gould just keeps getting better and was quickly pitching his way into the first round. He was the Kansas 6-A pitcher of the year in 2008, when he broke big leaguer Nate Robertson’s Maize High record with 95 strikeouts in 57 innings. He won MVP honors at the World Wood Bat Association championship last October, beating Shelby Miller in the quarterfinals and allowing just one hit and one walk while fanning 18 in eight shutout innings. After adding strength in the offseason, Gould has taken his fastball from 88-91 mph in 2008 to 91-94 mph this spring—and it’s not even his best pitch. He has one of the best curves among this draft’s high schoolers, a power breaker he delivers from a high three-quarters arm slot. He also dabbles with a changeup. Some scouts worry a little about effort in his mechanics, while others like how he stays tall and gets good extension out front. Gould is a quality 6-foot-4, 200-pound athlete who starred as a quarterback in football and as a forward in basketball before deciding to focus on baseball as a senior. He plays the outfield when he’s not pitching and has enough righthanded power to play both ways for Wichita State should he attend college. But he’ll probably go too high in the draft for that to happen.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 6:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Gould

Is it safe to say we are most excited about our 2nd second round pick?

Let’s get this boy signed.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 6:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Gould

This is a typical Logan White pick that he would make in the first round. A projectable HS arm with a good fastball and also a good breaking ball.

Could be a tough sign to get him away from Wichita State. Let’s keep an eye on this.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 6:50 PM PDT reply actions  

I love the Brett Wallach pick

RHP from Orange Coast College, he’s of course another son of Tim, and very solid and interesting from scouting reports I’ve seen.

by underdog on Jun 9, 2009 7:33 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m guessing he’ll be an easy sign. Here’s a report on him from BA

Wallach is the son of Tim Wallach, a 1979 first-round draft pick who was a longtime major leaguer with the Expos and Dodgers. Brett possesses a nearly ideal frame for a pitcher; at 6-foot-3 he’s lanky and projectable. Right now his fastball ranges from 88-89 mph, and his body promises more velocity in the future. His secondary pitches are excellent. Wallach features a slurve, which when thrown well has quick and late break. His changeup is his best pitch, showing sudden late drop while thrown with the same arm speed as his fastball. He has a smooth delivery, and his fluid arm action permits the ball to leave his hand easily. Wallach presents scouts with a complete package. He combines a big league lineage, projectable frame, smooth delivery, and an excellent feel for three pitches.

by ASUcruz on Jun 9, 2009 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Video on him looks impressive

and I’ve heard good things. Nice pick.

Now then… can we take a position player pretty please?

by underdog on Jun 9, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

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