Trade Deadline Day Open Chat
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 8:04 AM PDT
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PrintMLB Network is showing trade deadline coverage all day. You can watch online here.
Baseball Think Factory has a trade deadline extravaganza here.
Roughly five hours until the deadline...
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The MLB Network coverage began with a montage of studio highlights, and one made me laugh. Sean Casey was talking about the Lugo trade, and he said “the Red Sox are happy to move his salary; he’s making $9 million next year.” Then, Casey was interrupted, and someone said the Red Sox are paying the whole salary, so Casey deadpanned, “the Red Sox are not moving his salary” as if nothing happened.
It was pretty funny. I like Sean Casey.
I'm betting today is a quiet deadline day
Lee and Sherril are already off the board. For some reason JP is content to just keep Halladay. Maybe Washburn gets traded to the Yankees but that’s not a terribly earth shattering deal (by the way, all the people pointing to Washburn’s ERA will see it skyrocket as he gets to the Bronx.)
But if the Dodgers do complete the eath shattering deal, I might as well just go home for the day—- won’t be getting anything accomplished at work.
Yeah, I’m prepared for anything, but you might be right.
I can see the Dodgers getting Rhodes or something, but at this point I’m not sure if they need to get yet another reliever (I know that could also have been said with Sherrill).
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Eric has prewritten trade deadline stories for
Roy Halladay
Washburn
Scott Rolen
The whole Pirate roster
My pre-written Washburn story consists of one word.
It rhymes with Duck.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You were gone for lunch
but did you see the comments when our True Blue faithful thought the trade was Elbert and not Johnson?
Yes, in fact I saw a few comments from my phone, and commented while I was in the car that I didn’t like the deal. By the time the comment went through, it was already old news :)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Did you take a look at the Halladay story, BTW? It’s a freaking novel!
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Tick tock
please time, speed up and prevent a Colletti disaster.
by Paul Scott on Jul 31, 2009 8:24 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
9:19am: Juan C. Rodriguez of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel says the Padres wanted Cameron Maybin and Miller for Bell. The Fish have seen other trade ideas dry up as well, leading Rodriguez to suggest “it might be Nick Johnson or bust for the Marlins.” SI’s Jon Heyman agrees.
We get Sherrill who is close to Bell in performance for two AA pitchers and the Padres are asking for the Marlins best position prospect and Miller, basically the package that the got from the Tigers for Miggy. What a great trade by the Tigers. We could have beat that easily.
Don't write him off yet
he’s still showing signs of being productive. Nothing like he was expected to be, but I’d be surprised if he doesn’t carve out a decent career. Have you noticed the trouble the big time College LH starters are having adjusting to the major leagues? Price has been a huge disappointment this year.
The problem is he is out of options next year…he just needs time in the minors to find it.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Two years ago we said Miller would be fine but his stuff has never bounced back to what it was at the
collegiate level.
I’m sure Price will be fine, I just find it interesting that these big time pitching prospects who went to finishing school are behind the eight ball compared to the high school pitchers like Keshaw and Porcello.
In college they don't need to develop secondary pitches
In the minors, they start working on that at the age of 18.
That has certainly been Miller’s problem, the lack of secondary pitches.
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2009 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions
The Tigers acquired pitcher Jarrod Washburn from the Tigers, according to Mike Salk of ESPN radio Seattle.
I didn’t want the Dodgers to acquire Washburn
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Mike Salk needs to double check which team actually sent Washburn to Detroit.
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 31, 2009 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions
That is a team that can use Washburn
they need to make the playoffs, so every incremental gain works for them.
Agreed
they have Luke French as a starter (who has actually pitched well) and Galaragga (who has not.) Washburn improves their pitching staff.
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2009 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions
If the reports are true that we are getting one more reliever, what will the postseason staff look like?
Starters
Bills
Kershaw
Wolf
Kuroda
Relievers
Broxton
Sherrill
Troncoso
Kuo
Belisario
Mota
Reliever Acquired Today
Weaver? Wade? Elbert (maybe for the NLCS only against Phils)?
I’m assuming we go with a 12-man staff even with 4 starters because the lineup is pretty set. That allows a 5-man bench of Pierre, Loretta, Mientkiewicz, Castro, and Ausmus.
That’s a pretty sweet pen.
McDonald made the postseason roster last year
Wouldn’t be surprised if he did it again this year.
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2009 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Don't see a spot at this point
but we can expect injuries to deplete the group by October
Plus once he’s traded it won’t really matter.
I'm still holding out hope that we get Halladay without having to give up McDonald
I know I’m in the minority here, but I still view McDonald higher than Elbert and am not particularly concerned with JMac’s struggles this year.
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2009 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't se JMac ever being much of a starter
Guys who cry after sucking on the mound, how many of those guys ever make it? Then again how many of them cry. He’s 25 not 18. So much of this game is confidence and mental.
You are probably right, but in my mind I already had him traded for Halladay so I forgot. :)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Especially if Elbert is the 3rd lefty….awesome.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Also, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Wolf & Kuroda switched, if only to breakup the lefty/righty order.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Well there you go
French is in the starting rotation as of today and has pitched well. That deal makes less sense to me now.
French > Galarraga
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2009 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions
We really should to some sort of Hart Tally today.
I will not get much work done today :)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions
and that’s different from any other day how? :)
by KellyStephen on Jul 31, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Si…sitting on my balcony waiting for a certain someone to cook my breakfast
by KellyStephen on Jul 31, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Sounds like you know the proper way to celebrate trade deadline day
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but I need to keep my phone handy in case Ned calls (again) to see what my opinion is of someone’s performance.
by KellyStephen on Jul 31, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Random icebreaker...
Aside from Halladay, is there anyone else available who you guys would like to see the Dodgers target in a trade today?
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 31, 2009 8:38 AM PDT reply actions
C’mon Eric & Phil. I did qualify my statement by saying available ;-)
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 31, 2009 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I will jump on Phil’s RH outfielder bandwagon though, even though they aren’t really looking for that.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Key word in my question was available, SW… :-)
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 31, 2009 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions
DY
speaking of head cases, I believe Lastings Milledge will weat #85 for the Pirates, beginning tonight.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions
What if it is an actual pirate pitcher? Like with an eye patch, a sword, and a parrot?
Maybe not the peg leg, but I would like to see someone’s mound presence be described as “swashbuckling.” :)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ll be listening to Toronto’s Fan590 sports radio station this morning, so if any Doc Halladay stories break, I’ll be sure to pass them along here…
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 31, 2009 8:42 AM PDT reply actions
[cue breaking news sound]
…from out Toronto bureau, here is a report from DodgerBlueBalls…
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions
And in the meantime I'll be doing traffic & weather together on the ten's...
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 31, 2009 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions
“As God is my witness I thought turkeys could fly”
by KellyStephen on Jul 31, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
I like Tom Verducci here…after Amsinger (whose fake voice I hate) looked at all the Pirates traded away the past few years and said “that’s a competitive team, right?”, Verducci chimed in with “they couldn’t get to 81 wins with these guys…it’s not like they’re breaking up the 1927 Yankees.”
Awesome.
I just want to say I love the “Forever Young” commercial by Pepsi, especially the one with baseball footage. Who is the current artist? Is it will.i.am? I will even go so far as to say as I would like to see a song released complete with old Dylan spliced in.
Wow, I’m glad I decided to forgo my use of that word :)
(Unless we get a certain someone today)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Interesting...
The Mariners rejected offers from six different teams for young pitcher Felix Hernandez, according to ESPN’s Jayson Stark and Peter Gammons. GM Jack Zduriencik admitted he listened, but didn’t find anything even worth discussing
Rosenthal:
The Dodgers no longer are talking to the Blue Jays about ace right-hander Roy Halladay, and they’re also unlikely to get Jays right-handed reliever Jason Frasor, according to a major-league source.
The Jays are listening on all fronts until the 4 p.m. non-waiver deadline. The Dodgers, looking for bullpen help even after adding left-hander George Sherrill on Thursday, have inquired on Frasor.
The source, however, indicated that the teams did not have a match.
;(
damn
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by BoulderDodger on Jul 31, 2009 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions
I figured this would happen.
JRic sure didn’t seem eager for a trade, despite his talk. And he probably won’t be gettingo ne now.
Never trust the Rosenthal...
I don’t think anything is really over until 1pm today…
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 31, 2009 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Indeed
Ken “Kershaw to the Indians” Rosenthal is a gossip junkie.
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by BoulderDodger on Jul 31, 2009 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Plus, I think he takes pleasure in taking shots here and there against the Dodgers…
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 31, 2009 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Belisario and Kuo injury insurance
would be my guess.
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I guess his reasoning behind this is
that Casey Blake is old and Bell was the best 3rd base prospect in the system. Oh, and the Dodgers already had a good bullpen.
Ya, i get that.
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Sure, it could definitely be ugly for us
if Bell becomes a starting 3rd baseman. Every prospect trade has the potential to be ugly.
LaRoche (Age 22): .309/.419/.483 (Double-A)
Bell (Age 22): .296/.386/.497 (Double-A)
by silverwidow on Jul 31, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Verducci also called Bernie Madoff a “sound financial adviser who I would never hesitate to trust all of my life savings to.”
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 31, 2009 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Keith Law
seemed to have a fairer take on it imho.
He likes Bell, seems kind of “meh” on Johnson, and thinks Sherrill + Kuo will give the Dodgers two very tough lefty options going forward.
That analysis was surprisingly without snark!
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Plus Phils fans don't like it
They are freaking out on the blogs that they may have to face Sherrill the lefty killer. I think Colleti was building the rotation for this post season, good idea
WHAMMY!
They should be worried
after seeing what Kuo was throwing last night. You have to love the fact we can know throw Elbert/Sherrill/Kuo at them everytime the meat of the lineup comes up.
by meercatjohn on Jul 31, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Sherrill trade
After the dust has settled and I have had time to think about it, I still like better than what was being considered for Lee. Screw Plasche and his calls for the illusive “Aceeee!”
WHAMMY!
From BP:
regarding our pursuit of another relief pitcher.
“What they really need right now is an inning-eater for the back of the rotation, because their in-house fifth-starter options (Jason Schmidt, Jeff Weaver, James McDonald and Eric Stults) are shaky, averaging a bullpen-taxing 4.5 innings per start and combining for just one quality start out of 20. It would allow the team to conserve Clayton Kershaw’s bullets, because the 21-year-old phenom will face an innings limit that’s probably not much more lenient than last year’s cap of 170; he was at 120.2 through Wednesday’s start.” – Jay Jaffe
Sounds like Charlie Haegar to me
He's wrong
Torre said Kershaw will get at least 200 IP.
by silverwidow on Jul 31, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
200 seems high.
Probably around 190 at the end, including playoffs. They’ll likely skip a couple of starts in Sept.
Not sure if this was already brought up
but apparently we traded vargas to the brewers
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for catcher vinny rottino
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by BoulderDodger on Jul 31, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
http://twitter.com/fantasy411
http://kengurnick.mlblogs.com/
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by BoulderDodger on Jul 31, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
29 year old AAA catcher
really just a move to make a spot for sherrill. Great move ned!
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by BoulderDodger on Jul 31, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Nice little move
how funny, we are looking for relievers and yes Mr Vargas you were not the answer.
I said Weaver was only worth a bucket of balls, is Vinny Rottino worth more then a bucket of balls. AJ Ellis going WTF
by meercatjohn on Jul 31, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah
poor AJ Ellis is the only loser in this deal
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by BoulderDodger on Jul 31, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Bummer..
I was hoping Vargas would be the centerpiece of our trade for Halladay today…
;-)
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 31, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe he is…the Dodgers throw Russel into the mix and now need a catcher?
by KellyStephen on Jul 31, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Wow…going Hollywood on us? Announcing your posts? Shouldn’t you have someone else do that for you???
by KellyStephen on Jul 31, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
the suspense is killing me! ;)
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by BoulderDodger on Jul 31, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
JeffFletcherAOLSource confirms Orlando Cabrera to Twins for minor lg SS Tyler Ladendorf. Announcement within the hour. #athletics #twins4 minutes ago from TweetDeck
What is even the point of getting Rottino?
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=1B&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=457130
Might as well just given him away then collect that body.
to get the IN with Italian baseball fans ;)
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by BoulderDodger on Jul 31, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
wow wtf
This makes no sense unless were getting cash
by SeanMillerSavior on Jul 31, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Sure it does…Vargas wasn’t anything special and we sold him at his highest value. We needed the roster spot
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
He pitched decent for us albeit in blowout games
we traded him for a roster spot and a AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Catcher
by SeanMillerSavior on Jul 31, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Who we got was irrelevant. Vargas was bound to implode soon. We got all of the good without the bad.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
get my man Choi on that 40 man roster
with this trade of Claudio
by SeanMillerSavior on Jul 31, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
get my man roy on the 40 man!
;)
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by BoulderDodger on Jul 31, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Question
What was the last confirmed offer Colletti had made for Halladay? Did it include Loney?
WHAMMY!
There have been no confirmed offers, but I would be a lot of money Loney was never offered.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Rephrased
Guess, I should have reworded that as rumored offer. I agree Loney makes no sense, what Colleti really needed to make the Doc deal work was a third team (aka the Patsy) let’s get the Pirates involved, it worked last year for Manny. Those fools will trade anyone and anything, I think they just like to make deals.
WHAMMY!
There is a new chat thread…go to the main page
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Adrian Gonzalez AND Heath Bell to DODGERS?
Fox Sports reporting Dodgers are making a run at them. :o
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