Dodgers Trade Claudio Vargas To Brewers For Vinny Rottino
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 10:17 AM PDT
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The next time someone complains about a minimum-salary acquisition, let them know about the Dodgers and Claudio Vargas. Vargas, who battled injuries for the first half of the year, actually produced for the big club once he was activated, allowing only two runs in his 11 innings. And today he was flipped for catching depth in Vinny Rottino.
This move clears a 25-man roster spot for George Sherrill, and a 40-man spot if needed for another reliever.
From the Dodgers:
Rottino, 29, has appeared briefly in the Major Leagues for Milwaukee in each of the past three seasons and was named to the Pacific Coast League All-Star team last season when he posted a 24-game hitting streak. The Wisconsin native has made the PCL All-Star team each of the past three years and has been named to his league’s All-Star team in each season dating back to 2004 when he recorded a team record 124 RBI for Single-A Beloit.
Vargas, 31, spent much of the 2009 season on the disabled list with right elbow tendinitis before being activated on July 3. Since returning to the big leagues, he has appeared in eight games for Los Angeles , posting a 1.64 ERA in 11.0 innings. The Dominican Republic native will be returning to Milwaukee , where he won 11 games for the Brewers in 2007. In seven big league seasons, the right-hander is 46-40 with a 4.89 ERA in 172 games (114 starts).
Rottino is expected to report to Double-A Chattanooga.
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Rottino
Tommy Lasorda: Excuse me waiter! But would you recommend the Vinny Rottino?
W: Yes, it’s quite delicious. Best served with a red wine.
TL: I’ll take three.
vr, Xei
With Closser and AJ Ellis this seems pointless. Just give him away, the real question is the money. Are we on the hook or are the Brewers taking his salary?
Yes, but based on starts…he’s not reaching them
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Those usually get worked out between the teams.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh, for some reason I had pegged for more. I guess I should read the salary table more often.
Has it been updated yet:)
by meercatjohn on Jul 31, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Ryan Braun should be mad.
He made a public rant and the best pitcher his GM could find was Claudio Vargas.
The trade was probably a favor to Vargas as well. He wasn’t going to pitch any meaningful innings with the Dodgers anyway, and he would probably have a more reduced role with Sherrill here and Kuo and everyone else getting healthy anyway. This gives him a chance to presumably pitch more, which is good for him.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 10:29 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
UNBELIEVABLE. I CANNOT BELIEVE
WE TRADED A FUTURE ACE for a BARELY AAA CATCHER GOOD LORD FIRE NED THIS IS RIDICULOUS HOW DO I KEEP ROOTING FOR THIS TEAM.
DOES MY USE OF THE SHIFT BUTTON
NOT SHOW YOU I AM IN NO MOOD TO BE PALS WITH ANYONE!
HE HAD A 255 ERA+, THAT’S BETTER THAN KERSHAW OORRRR BILLINGSLEY. WE DIDN’T NEED HALLADAY, WE NEEDED TO PROMOTE VARGAS
by Jacob Burch on Jul 31, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
We have so many new readers - they think you are a lunatic
instead of just slightly whacko
by meercatjohn on Jul 31, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
MY CAPS LOCK KEY IS BROKEN GOOD SIR, I ASSURE YOU MY PINKY IS PRESSED FIRMLY ON SHIFT
BUT IT’S MORE LIKE THE ‘SHIT’ BUTTON IF WE’RE TALKING ABOUT OUR GM
by Jacob Burch on Jul 31, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Sarcasm, right?
"I don't know the meaning of the word 'surrender'!... I mean, I know it, I'm not dumb... Just - not in this context."
If you see me writing in caps
Believe me, tongue is firmly in cheek.
by Jacob Burch on Jul 31, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Or firmly on
your caps lock button.
Easy pal, I know you adored Circus Vargas, but he’s gone now, there’s nothing we can do, he’s gone…
Are you kidding???
Vinny Rottino projects to have the power of Ausmus, the basepath speed of Bengie Molina and the throwout rate of John Buck! I ask you good sir, how can you possibly not like this deal?!?
2009-10 LA Kings Hockey: Where Smyt Happens!!
by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 31, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Finally we get rid of Vargas, he was never going to be a guy who would be in the Dodgers’ pen. His stuff isn’t as good, and he’s aging.
The most inconsequential trade this year.
"I don't know the meaning of the word 'surrender'!... I mean, I know it, I'm not dumb... Just - not in this context."
For us
who knows for the Brewers. He could be this years Marlon Anderson for them.
by meercatjohn on Jul 31, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I like his stuff better than Schmidt’s….
2009-10 LA Kings Hockey: Where Smyt Happens!!
by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 31, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Belisario perhaps
as a sort of extended rehab assignment. just speculation
I'm nobody's fool, least of all yours
by BoulderDodger on Jul 31, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
“Back in my day pitchers pitched back to back doubleheaders and if they didn’t I demanded my nickel back”
"I don't know the meaning of the word 'surrender'!... I mean, I know it, I'm not dumb... Just - not in this context."
by Sordid on Jul 31, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Absent another deal, both Weaver and JMac will still be on the roster
either of them can perform “mop-up” duties.
Same with Elbert.
Plenty of options for mop up duty
it is not like Vargas has been here long, performing that duty.
by meercatjohn on Jul 31, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
FYI
We broke our non – Manny suspended high for unique hits yesterday with 10,890. Mostly from the whoring headline that Eric put together yesterday that had us stoked for the first five words.
TBLA Rising
"I don't know the meaning of the word 'surrender'!... I mean, I know it, I'm not dumb... Just - not in this context."
Mostly from the whoring headline that Eric put together
Eric wrote an article about the World’s Oldest Profession™ yesterday? And I missed it?
2009-10 LA Kings Hockey: Where Smyt Happens!!
by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 31, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Phat Julio - Welcome to TBLA - Looks like you will be a welcome addition
Glad to see you already took advantage of the FanPost tool.
busterolneyReports: Hall of Famer that used PEDs is Dennis Eckersley. Canseco has said Rickey Henderson not the Hall of Famer4 minutes ago from web
I guess he stopped on October 14, 1988
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
Vargas contract
The likely incentives left for Vargas to achieve are:
$50k for 60 days on the 25-man roster (he is at 29 days through today)
$100k for 90 days on the 25-man roster
I emailed the Dodgers asking who would pay for these incentives, but to be honest I don’t expect them to comment.
USA Today’s Bob Nightengale via Twitter: the Red Sox are about to acquire Victor Martinez from the Indians.
Unbreak my heart
Harold Reynolds just noted the Dodgers have a lot of guys to get the ball to Braxton
I don’t think the Vargas trade was the only thing keeping Repko in AAA :)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
True dat
But I bet he’s BEGGING to be DFA’d. :)
by silverwidow on Jul 31, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Was surprised to see Hoffmann is hitting much better than Repko in AAA
Repko doesn’t even figure to be a late season call up
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Shouldn't be surprised - Hoffman is a better player
by meercatjohn on Jul 31, 2009 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Frequency Modulation?
2009-10 LA Kings Hockey: Where Smyt Happens!!
by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 31, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
hottest place in the great state of California
by meercatjohn on Jul 31, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Isn’t Death Valley in CA? I think that’s usually hotter…but I was forged in the fires of Palm Springs as a wee lad, so I’m used to it.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
underground bunker
"I don't know the meaning of the word 'surrender'!... I mean, I know it, I'm not dumb... Just - not in this context."
Can't wait to see what Boston gave up for Victor
I hope it was more then we gave up for Sherrill. Don’t see the big upgrade from a 2nd half LaRoche and Victor Martinez
Buchholz is in the deal apprently.
But that dude seems to be scared to death pitching in the major leagues.
V Mart - does not impress me as a 1st baseman.
by meercatjohn on Jul 31, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I think he still catches a couple times a week there, though.
They have a pretty flexible situation with V-Mart and Youk
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
And Veritek.
Although I’m sure that the Red Sox are ready to move on from the Jason Veritek experience.
Well, I meant that V-Mart and Youk will move, depending on who starts between Lowell and Varitek.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
They gave up the Untouchable prospect.
"I don't know the meaning of the word 'surrender'!... I mean, I know it, I'm not dumb... Just - not in this context."
He's already 24, going to turn 25. If he's going to be a good major leauger, he better figure it out soon.
He’s overrated in my opinion in the sense that guys 2-3 years younger than him are already pitching on a high level and Buchholz can’t seem to stay around.
The difference is that the Rays are okay with Price struggling in the major leauges while Boston left Buchholz at triple-A most of the year.
After the first 3 starts, everyone realized why.
Anyway, I expect him to figure things out, and I'll be happy if he does that with the Indians instead of the Sox
If the Indians did get him that is good work. Now I want to see of Carlos Santana gets the call.
by meercatjohn on Jul 31, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Because?
So that Tim Brown will give the Dodgers an A for trading moves heading up to the deadline?
WHAMMY!
Maury Brown of the Biz of Baseball:
Think about how much traffic FOX and SI are getting by ESPN making all the trade buzz Insider Only
Charging for content while you’re competitors don’t only makes sense if you’re content is far superior to your competitor.
"I don't know the meaning of the word 'surrender'!... I mean, I know it, I'm not dumb... Just - not in this context."
Wow
Its closer city in the Dodger pen! I shudder at what San Diego would ask the Dodgers for Bell.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Probably start with Kershaw:)
everyone else does
by meercatjohn on Jul 31, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
let's thrown in Scully he has an expiring contract :)
"I don't know the meaning of the word 'surrender'!... I mean, I know it, I'm not dumb... Just - not in this context."
Don't know if the clubhouse is big enough for Bell and Broxton
by meercatjohn on Jul 31, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Phil has insider experience as well :)
They might need to have Bell go to the other side to balance it out. Most of the pitchers are on one side. I think Mota is the only guy on the other side (there are two rows of lockers, one on each wall)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Hmmm
Would the Dodgers be trying to do something with the newly acquired bullpen staff? Why wouldn’t they have just structured the deal to begin with as a three way?
WHAMMY!
This can't be right.
"I don't know the meaning of the word 'surrender'!... I mean, I know it, I'm not dumb... Just - not in this context."
Really?
I would – we’d just let Chad and company go five then:
Game one – Kuo, Troncoso, Sherrill, Broxton
Game two – Elbert, Weaver, Sherrill, Bell
Repeat and rinse
by meercatjohn on Jul 31, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I would trade him too.
"I don't know the meaning of the word 'surrender'!... I mean, I know it, I'm not dumb... Just - not in this context."
Not that Bell wouldn’t be nice, but I think McDonald, if traded, could be used for something much bigger.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
I think McDonald crapped his value by crying in the dugout and running back to Charlie Hough for a self
confidence gig.
by meercatjohn on Jul 31, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
I’d rather keep him then and see if he can work it out.
And besides, I like Pumpkinhead!!! :)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
July 28, 2002: Traded by the Cleveland Indians to the Los Angeles Dodgers for Francisco Cruceta, Terry Mulholland and Ricardo Rodriguez.
I figured Shuey was a pretty good comp for Sherril
Same age, and was dominating in Cleveland. Had an ERA+ of 182 with Cleveland in 2002.
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
at the time Cruceta and Rodriquez
were two of our better prospects. Just didn’t work out. As someone keeps pointing out they are just prospects.
by meercatjohn on Jul 31, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Isn't this the shithead who said he was pleased when he realized the Dodgers might be affected by his blown save in the ASG?
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Nothing wrong with hating the team you are asked to beat. He'll become a Dodger fan once he becomes a Dodger
by meercatjohn on Jul 31, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
I know
I kind of assumed the comment was meant as a sort of joke anyway. Though I really have no idea as I only saw it in print…
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
lolzzzzzzzzzzz
Did anyone hear Colin Cowherd’s song about the Pittsburgh Pirates yesterday, set to the tune of Styx’ “Come Sail Away?” It’s at about the 4 minute mark of this audio clip and is hysterical! nice distraction to kill these last moments before the deadline…
2009-10 LA Kings Hockey: Where Smyt Happens!!
by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 31, 2009 11:29 AM PDT reply actions
Hilarious.
"I don't know the meaning of the word 'surrender'!... I mean, I know it, I'm not dumb... Just - not in this context."
Funny but
Would have been better if Cowherd had had someone else do it with moderate ability to sing, that version was painful. Besides a lousy voice, he doesn’t even have rhythm, yike!
WHAMMY!
That’s what makes it even more funny, I believe…
2009-10 LA Kings Hockey: Where Smyt Happens!!
by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 31, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Everyone just needs to relax and give/get a hug...
Loney and Kemp show how it’s done…
No Bell please
We have already 2 closers: Big Jon and Sherill
If we acquire Bell it will cost a bunch prospect like Withtrow, Lambo, Martin or Eovaldi…
It doesn’t make sense anyone…
has bill shaikin reported something that was correct
these last 3 days?
Not a one, but it only takes one to break our hearts
by meercatjohn on Jul 31, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
i bet the angels are going to get him
they need him big time.. he just wanted to make it more exciting saying the dodgers are in the race for him as well.
by matthewmafa on Jul 31, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
They do need him
but they can’t really afford to give up the prospects for relief help when they need starting help and have so many free agents next year.
by meercatjohn on Jul 31, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Probably fed that by San Diego
San Diego doing a nice job of driving up the price by letting the Angels think the Dodgers are in play.
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
they have no set up help
they need some help to get to fuetnes
by matthewmafa on Jul 31, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
why would we need heath bell??
we got tron, brox, and now sherill who can save a game when brox might be injured or needs rest….
Crazy trade!!!!!!!
It’s a bullshit: No Buccholz, no Bard… Maybe they might be yhe best trade in the whole world…
red sox have a lot of other talented players in there system
i think…. there prospects get talked about soo much that it seems like all of them are all already all stars.
by matthewmafa on Jul 31, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
by meercatjohn on Jul 31, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
nice a 23 year old in A ball
and a reliever/starter
by matthewmafa on Jul 31, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
bronson arroyyo says he might be on the 104 steroids list
he might have used tainted andro?
At this point, who SIN'T on the list?
Aside from BeastMode.
Greg Maddux
"I don't know the meaning of the word 'surrender'!... I mean, I know it, I'm not dumb... Just - not in this context."
they shoulda...
shredded that list
instead of releasing 1 or 2 big names at a time
so they can take the blame for the other 98 who tested positive
what does that mean?
he does know if he roided up?
by Kenchanayoh on Jul 31, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
i rather just keep the prospects
and let eric stults have the 5th starters job
by matthewmafa on Jul 31, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
if he only didnt get injured
we would be having kershaw and stults mania
by Kenchanayoh on Jul 31, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Big news here:
With today’s MLB non-waiver trade deadline fast approaching, FOXSports.com baseball reporters Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi have all the latest buzz. All times below are ET.
More buzz: Last week | Monday | Tuesday | Wednesday | Thursday | Friday
Sources: Dodgers making run at Padre stars — 2:48 p.m.
Even with Indians catcher Victor Martinez headed to the Red Sox, there is still a possibility that the Padres will trade first baseman Adrian Gonzalez.
The Dodgers are making runs at both Gonzalez and Padres closer Heath Bell, either separately or in a blockbuster, according to major-league sources.
If the Dodgers acquired Gonzalez, they presumably would send first baseman James Loney to the Padres or trade him somewhere else.
The Angels also are talking to the Padres about Bell.
yea, talking outta his ass
rumors are only rumors
by Kenchanayoh on Jul 31, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Not be me matthewmafa
But what the heck are you smoking.
by Jacob Burch on Jul 31, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
You know better than to use the two dumbest baseball stats
to evaluate a player, come on now.
by Jacob Burch on Jul 31, 2009 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
theres absoltly
No way we are getting gonzolez or bell. The price the dodgers would have to pay for these two would Be soo huge that ever caps lock would not show how huge it is.
by matthewmafa on Jul 31, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
hmm base hits for power
hmm
do we need more power?
we didnt hit a homer in the past series…
by Kenchanayoh on Jul 31, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
padres trading to us?
i know they are outta it, but to a division rival?
by Kenchanayoh on Jul 31, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
This is all crap
we cant package what Boston has to offer, and why would the Padres trade A-gon to the Dodgers without murdering our farm and players on the 25 man roster
by SeanMillerSavior on Jul 31, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Caught
Is Colleti trying to work some blockbuster for Halladay? He’s running out of time, better have all his ducks in a row?
WHAMMY!
No Way on Gonzalez/Bell
ESPN.com’s Jayson Stark reports that according to an executive of one club that inquired about both Adrian Gonzalez and Roy Halladay, the asking price on Gonzalez is “astronomical.” And what does “astronomical” mean? “Three times the asking price on Halladay,” the exec said.
yea someone already said that
padres need players
why would they give away their best for nothing
by Kenchanayoh on Jul 31, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
Gosh. Really don’t get the logic of being so against trading in your division.
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
because ur playing them a ton of times during the season
by Kenchanayoh on Jul 31, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
So. If you can get a better deal from within your division, you’d be dumb to pass it up.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Eric, What does Gonzalez's contract look like?
Did they lock him up?
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
2009: $3m
2010: $4.75m
2011: $5.5m option (no buyout)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
seriously is SD really dumb?
GMs are extra cautious when trading within the division
dont tell me thats not true
better deal? when have we gotten a better deal from division mates?
by Kenchanayoh on Jul 31, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
No, I’m saying in general.
If you get offered two packages, one from Team A (inside the division) and one from Team B (outside the division), and Package A is a better return, you have to take that deal.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Why wouldn't you
If you are trading stars for prospects, that means you are rebuilding. Take the best package possible. Who cares if you lose in the meantime, the odds are you are going to be losing anyway.
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
How reliable is Stark
And how much posturing is SD making? Every top player is always astronomical up to the trade deadline, in hopes of boosting options.
WHAMMY!
couldnt they sell it to the sox
repaint them, give them away
it comes with Martinez in a package deal.
by Kenchanayoh on Jul 31, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
padres should trade us gonzolez wihout having to pay extra… because its not like the padres are going to be competing for a championship in the next 8 years… and thats when hes at his best
Dodgers might trade Broxton and Loney plus DeWitt plus prospects
that might bring Gonzalez and Bell
f**k, man, there's a beverage here!
They just got Sherrill
what does that tell you? and Broxton’s value is maxed now.
f**k, man, there's a beverage here!
by seesdifferent on Jul 31, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh fuck
I really hope Ned doesn’t try for a block buster. I just don’t see any way he doesn’t get fleeced and any way it helps improve the team significantly.
[DELETED ZOMG NO POLITICS]
actually he would love a huge park
he doesnt try to hit home runs and all those line drives and bloopers he hits would have a way higer chance of falling in petco then in dodger stadium, where the dimension are all equal. theres much more room in petco for soft stuff to fall
by matthewmafa on Jul 31, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
This has gotta be a three-way deal..
Loney and prospects to Padres, Broxton and prospects (incl. newly acquired Rottino) to Jays, Halladay and Gonzalez/Bell to Dodgers. Jays and Padres sort through the Dodgers grab-bag o’ farmies. Wishful thinking or Coletti separating himself from the herd for Exec of the Year?
The article just got posted
The previous snippet was in a larger group post.
by Jacob Burch on Jul 31, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
No, this was just updated a few minutes ago
by silverwidow on Jul 31, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Doesn't say much more
Just that Loney + “young players” would go to SD
by silverwidow on Jul 31, 2009 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
BROXTON ISN'T GETTING TRADED.
Jesus Christ, stop speculating.
by Tripon on Jul 31, 2009 12:09 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Agreed. The trade deadline does strange things to people.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
to get Adrian Gonzalez?
Trade Broxton in a heartbeat. He’s a relief pitcher, fcs. AG would be the steal of the year. 4 mill a year, he’d hit 50 HR and 140 RBI for the next 6 years.
f**k, man, there's a beverage here!
by seesdifferent on Jul 31, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
should we be worried?
adrian is having a power outtage at the moment
by Kenchanayoh on Jul 31, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
we get guys on the downswing
has he been used up already?
and his career is going down?
hope not, he’s still a young dude
by Kenchanayoh on Jul 31, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Adam LaRoche returned to Pirates via Amazon.com
Amazon has a great return policy.
snark
f**k, man, there's a beverage here!
First baseman Adam LaRoche becomes expendable for Boston if they complete the Victor Martinez trade; Jon Heyman of SI tells us via Twitter that the Braves are interested. LaRoche came up with the Braves; they traded him to Pittsburgh for Mike Gonzalez in ’07.
hes way better then
casey kotchman thats for sure
by matthewmafa on Jul 31, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
They are pretty much the same as hitters (LaRoche is probably slightly better), and Kotchman is much better defensively than LaRoche
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
la roche is a .500 slugger usually
kotchman is nowhere near the same hitter.. sorry to tell you
by matthewmafa on Jul 31, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Kotchman reminds me a lot of James Loney
by SeanMillerSavior on Jul 31, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
i rememeber a yahoo story on them together
how the were the LA great first basemen of the future
by matthewmafa on Jul 31, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
loney reminds me of olerud and grace
not much power, hits for average
by Kenchanayoh on Jul 31, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Gordon Edes said they have now traded AdLR to Braves
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Rosenthal at it again
2:11pm: ESPN’s Buster Olney says the Twins have interest in Bell, as well as Oakland’s Michael Wuertz.
Tripon
Hope Brox doesn´t get traded, because he´s way better than Bell.
damn it
now we have to play against him
by Kenchanayoh on Jul 31, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Who cares? Has anyone ever game-planned for Adam LaRoche?
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
last year he hit a grand slam against chad billingsley
to give the pirates the lead
by matthewmafa on Jul 31, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
You mean he had a good at bat once against the Dodgers?
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Twice!
Grand slam against Jeff Weaver @ DS
by Jacob Burch on Jul 31, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
its not like hes mark loretta
hes laroche
by matthewmafa on Jul 31, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
The Yankees acquired Jerry Hairston Jr. from the Reds, according to Joel Sherman of the New York Post.
maybe the red are sellers
we can get Joey Votto??
by matthewmafa on Jul 31, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
No way they would give up Votto…young, good, and more importantly, cheap.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
i would think they would listen for offers for joey votto just like san diego is with gonzolez
The reds have a talented first basemen who will be ready by next year.. yonder alonso
by matthewmafa on Jul 31, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Votto has two less years of service time than Gonzalez. He’s exactly the kind of player a selling team would try to acquire, not trade away. Votto is under team control through 2013.
Padres are trying to capitalize on Adrian because he contract through his arb years is ridiculously under-market, giving him even more value on the trade market.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
also
padres have a first basemen who can take over for gonzolez in kyle blanks… so its kinda the same situation
by matthewmafa on Jul 31, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Troy from WV is not happy...
The Rockies acquired lefty reliever Joe Beimel from the Nationals, according to Chico Harlan of the Washington Post.
Jonathon Mayo on MLBTV says the Phillies are most likely to get Halladay...
This guy is an expert? Are you kidding me? How the PHUQUE would that happen? What a douchebag! What…is he a Philly beat writer who is suffering from wishful thinking? I wish I could send my fist through my 60 inch HD LCD and knock this dipshit’s teeth out for just being an asshole.
You sure that wasn't old tape?
I didn’t see it, but sometimes these “analysist’s” reports are several days old. Though MLBTV would be stupid to re-air something now when so much is up in the air.
WHAMMY!
Well, the counter offer by the Jays included three players still in the Phillies’ system. If they wanted Halladay, they could still get him. Probably unlikely though.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
You're kidding, right?
Its Yankees baseball circa 1995-2002 – Torre tells GM he needs a frontline starter and two relievers at deadline, GM goes to Boss (intentional caps) and asks if its ok, Boss says “what Joe wants, Joe gets” and GM makes it happen. Colletti plays GM role, McCourt plays role of Boss and Torre, in a stunning stretch, portrays himself. After all, he wrote the screenplay according to that State farm commercial.
So we say every year, but he paid for Manny
McCourt has to recognize the Dodgers are a hot property in LA right now, use the goodwill of winning a WS to sell lots more Dodger crap to the public and try and build your parking lot/ NFL stadium or whatever else he wants to do as part of his LA image.
WHAMMY!
Will he what, throw a party in his pants?
Most likely, cause Frankie’s boss is Jamie, and what Jamie wants she gets.
WHAMMY!
i think jamie is more of a dodgers fan than frank
by Kenchanayoh on Jul 31, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
A fan of the team?
Or of the players, throwing a party in her pants?
‘Rimshot’ I keed I keed, heh heh
WHAMMY!
i was gonna say that, but i didnt want anyone to say im a jerk to her
by Kenchanayoh on Jul 31, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn't have called you a jerk
But apparently you don’t frequent DodgerBlues, that dude is way hard on Jamie
WHAMMY!
right now ned colletti is sitting back in his chair
think he did a great job to improve the team
Of course he is
He’s rubbing his buddha belly, wazing his dirt stache, and belching in contentment.
WHAMMY!
Last year the news that manny was traded to the dodgers came in
1 minute after the trade dealine..so we got plenty of time for ned to give up a young stud player for a wiley old veteran.
A scrappy veteran gamer full of moxie :)
"I don't know the meaning of the word 'surrender'!... I mean, I know it, I'm not dumb... Just - not in this context."
mlb's Corey Brock says Bell to Dodgers
hmmmm….
f**k, man, there's a beverage here!
Greatest Bullpen ever:)
"I don't know the meaning of the word 'surrender'!... I mean, I know it, I'm not dumb... Just - not in this context."
i think the dodgers are trying to
make every game a 6 inning game… like to put no pressure on chad for going more then 6 in the playoffs
sees different is messing with us
sees different is living up to his username
it was reported on MLB.com
but I looked on his blog and he was just wondering if the ANGELS might be interested. My bad.
f**k, man, there's a beverage here!
by seesdifferent on Jul 31, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Matthew
That makes sense, but Ned would have to give up a lot of talent. I hope this doesn´t happen.
on the MLB ticker, they misquoted Brock
f**k, man, there's a beverage here!
by seesdifferent on Jul 31, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
its rosenthal reporting that
i dont believe it if hes reporting that
by matthewmafa on Jul 31, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Scott Rolen to REds
wow Reds are a mess
by SeanMillerSavior on Jul 31, 2009 12:39 PM PDT reply actions
Toronto is one of the few teams still playing on artificial turf. Getting away from that stuff has got to be to Rolen’s health advantage…
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 31, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, I guess Indiana is in the Cincinnati area :)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Bell not going to the Marlins?
According to MLBTV, does this leave room for whatever the Dodgers were trying to do?
WHAMMY!
Last year, went to luch, came back and saw the Dodgers had acquired Manny
Just got back from lunch, no such treat.
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
it actually came 1 minute after the deadline
if i remember correctly
by matthewmafa on Jul 31, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I was at the dentist
He was cleaning my teeth with the plaque scraper, that nasty hook. He had the radio on, and I almost bit down on that sharp little tool, I was already drooling.
WHAMMY!
Morales has been almost as good as texiera this year
5 less homers a few walks is all that separates them… plus texeira gets to bat in front of a rod
by matthewmafa on Jul 31, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Now that Toronto doesn’t need a 3B, our lack of Josh Bell won’t hurt our trade? :)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
wows theres only 5 more minutes
come on ned. do soemthing
I guess he figures he already did
Its sort of a let down after the Manny blockbuster, but you can’t have that every year.
WHAMMY!
Nothing earth shattering
Since guys like Gonzales, Bell, Halladay would never clear waivers.
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope…after the deadline, passing through waivers takes 48 hours.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Thinking of Halladay
Can Toronto expect to get more in the offseason than they would now. I really hope JP is blinking right now.
WHAMMY!
The next 3 minutes represent their best possible return.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I think you're good...
JP isn’t going to blink now…
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Nah, he's content never trading with the Dodgers under any circumstance
can’t see the Dodgers doing a deal with SD.
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
That's my vote
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 31, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Ed Price just said that report is not accurate
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Of course. We’re just busting your chops, SW ;-)
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 31, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Did they get him from Washington D.C?
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 31, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Now its up to the MLB offices getting their paperwork in order
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Give it a few moments…
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 31, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
The deadline has passed
"I don't know the meaning of the word 'surrender'!... I mean, I know it, I'm not dumb... Just - not in this context."
Boooo Ned!
i thought we were trying to go all out and win a world series
Guys. Dodgers still the best team in baseball
not making a deal, is not the worst thing that could happen by a long shot.
Good perspective, mwhite…
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 31, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
lee and pedro
now in a playoff series u arent gonna see moyer
and their offense is not so shabby too
Why would you expect anything from Pedro? That doesn’t seem realistic.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Lee was a very good pickup, but you said “lee and pedro.” I was questioning the “and pedro” part.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Why, because he's a name you recognize
by that logic, if Schmidt is your 5th starter, not too shabby
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
But that’s what I’m saying…I don’t think he can be counted on beyond anything but a 5th starter, which matters not at all in the playoffs
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Lee will get bomed in that band-box in Philadelphia
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
halladay to angels??
stark is saying on espnnews
We gonna see a Freeway WS?
Halladay would be a big boost to the Angels, but they would need a lot of rally monkey mojo to get by the Yanks in the post season
WHAMMY!
Angels own the Yanks
Halos just don’t wanna see the Red Sox :)
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I was just kidding anyway
Obviously the prior years don’t matter….
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Hopefully Stark got his Los Angeles teams confused…
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 31, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
If it means anything, Toronto’s radio station is saying that Halladay has not been moved.
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 31, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice, you bring us the breaking news when we needed it!
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Here’s the audio feed link for Fan590
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 31, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
omg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OMG11111111111111111111111
fact rolen got done when jays execs said no rolen trade unless halladay is dealt, makes me wonder if hallday actually got moved
saunders is horrible.. why would toronto want him?????????
aybars upside is not great,,, and woods value is not as high as it used to be and how many thrid basemen does tornto want?????
Talk about a buzzkill
Roy Halladay went to Anaheim and all I got was this lousy closer
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
woaaah
no wayyy i thought they were high on this guy as they center fieilder for the future.. i guess not
the dodgers could have made a better offer for halladay without giving up their farm… makes me think ned did want halladay from the begining and just pretended
I'm not happy but it is his money.
"I don't know the meaning of the word 'surrender'!... I mean, I know it, I'm not dumb... Just - not in this context."
I was thinking of tar and feather:)
"I don't know the meaning of the word 'surrender'!... I mean, I know it, I'm not dumb... Just - not in this context."
That should have started with “Dodgers…”
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
What a horrible trade!!!
stupid Colleti!
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Plus she’s a witch!!! You gotta have that power at your disposal.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
That would never happen
Simpson’s a mindless rack of boobage with dyed blond hair, Alyssa’s a mindless hot body, but she roots hard for the Doyers. I’m more pissed they let that slut Kardashian throw out the first pitch instead of Milano, that’s the real travesty
WHAMMY!
I’m guessing since that position was mostly a bench spot, they went for defense
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Haven’t heard anything yet on Fan590
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 31, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Joel Sherman says no
Dodgers reached out everywhere (A.Gonzalez, Bell in particular) but did nothing at the wire.
Padres wanted Chrique, Ned refused.
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f**k, man, there's a beverage here!
she isn't wearing a bottom
f**k, man, there's a beverage here!
by seesdifferent on Jul 31, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
This day gets stranger and stranger
"I don't know the meaning of the word 'surrender'!... I mean, I know it, I'm not dumb... Just - not in this context."
Vasgersian was pretty funny on that one :)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Right there in my link above
Is his tweet.
by Brendan Scolari on Jul 31, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Does he have to agree to it?
"I don't know the meaning of the word 'surrender'!... I mean, I know it, I'm not dumb... Just - not in this context."
and I believe he would have had to before 1pm to make the deal valid.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
He is 50-50
to pitch again this year.
by Brendan Scolari on Jul 31, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but then he has to pitch for the Padres the next four years.
At least Peavy knows Jerry Reinsdorf can pay his contract.
I'm the other way
I just hope its not Bell for E Mart and Withrow
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
how are there more and more trades being reported
when the freaking trade deadline has already passed 26 minutes ago?!?
Paperwork organization…getting through MLB offices,etc
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Didn't Peavy have to approve it by 1?
Isn’t that the point of a trade deadline?
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Heyman said Peavy may have already approved it but he hasn’t heard yet
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Aaron Poreda to Padres
f**k, man, there's a beverage here!
by seesdifferent on Jul 31, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Toronto Radio is now saying that a trade with Halladay to the Angels is a “possibility” but no confirmation as of yet
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 31, 2009 1:30 PM PDT reply actions
Padres PR: The #Padres haul for Peavy is Poreda, Richard, Russell and Carter.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
He might…there were conflicting medical reports in the last couple weeks
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Richard sucks
f**k, man, there's a beverage here!
by seesdifferent on Jul 31, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d have to bring him in through the backyard, sliding glass entrance. And rearrange some of the furniture, and maybe resod the grass when the Bison was done grazing.
vr, Xei
by Xeifrank on Jul 31, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Both Jeff Weaver extra inning walkoff losses after a gutsy 2 scoreless inning performances resulted in the opposing team having someone get their first MLB win.
Hawkesworth the other night, and Poreda (in the Peavy deal) last month
and both of them went to matt kemp
who couldnt make ethier catch… he was playing too deep for pedsednick and too shallow for pujols.. wow
clayton richard was brilliant against the tigers on ESPN
last week going 8 innings allowing 1 run… Poreda is a hard throwing left hander…
and 2 guys i dont know… all for an injured pitcher…
But unneccessary
The Dodgers are already in the playoffs. Winning the playoffs is a crap shoot and mortgaging your future for a 1% increase in winning a crap shoot is dumb.
[DELETED ZOMG NO POLITICS]
It'd be more than 1%
But yeah, mortaging the farm is not worth it.
by Brendan Scolari on Jul 31, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
“I think Jake just got to the breaking point,” Axelrod said. “One team wanted him bad enough, and the other team wanted to get rid of him.”
Ned Colleti gave up too much for him.
"I don't know the meaning of the word 'surrender'!... I mean, I know it, I'm not dumb... Just - not in this context."
I demand we use “Vitino” as our new 29-year old AA catcher’s nickname :)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Peavy waived his no trade clause
Via the link Bluetrek provided above.
by Brendan Scolari on Jul 31, 2009 1:45 PM PDT reply actions
did anyone think that kenny wiliams was gonna sit on his butt and do nothing
to improve his team??
Fan590 is confirming that Halladay will not be changing addresses
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 31, 2009 1:45 PM PDT reply actions
Slight lineup order shakeup tonight
Furcal, SS
Ethier, RF
Manny, LF
Blake, 3B
Loney, 1B
Kemp, CF
Martin, C
Hudson, 2B
Schmidt, P
I'm still waiting to see Torre give Matt a 4-5 game stretch at the 2 spot...
I just think Furcal, Kemp, Ramirez and Ethier sounds like a devastating front four. Dunno, one can only hope…
i think joes been reluctant to move kemp
cause he wants balanced hitting throughout the rotation
so maybe when we got RISP with the bottom of the rotation hitting
kemp could be like the sparkplug and drive in runs…not 100% sure but that might be why
I’ve heard Torre describe Kemp before as being his second clean-up hitter in the line up
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 31, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
And I think that's completely great
when the offense is firing on all cylinders.
But right now, when we’re getting hits but not putting the ball in play at the right sort of time, I’d have to think he would be more willing to stack the best (Kemp, Ramirez) and sandwich them in between the hot hands (Ethier, and Blake, who would bat fifth here) to try and get 1-2 runs every 3 innings and give up a pair of innings in order to safeguard a few high-probability scoring innings.
If they’re working fine in the playoffs though, Kemp at eight is something I support.
I’ve noticed a large percentage of your posts make very sweeping claims of absolute truths. Not saying I don’t always disagree, but it seems as if you think everyone else is always stupid or an idiot.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
put russell martin in the 8 hole!!
every time the dodgers have runners in scoring position, it seems like he doesnt come through..
I’ll have the game preview up in a few minutes.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Stupid stupid stupid move by those bums in LA
Should have gotten rid of Schmidt first. At least Vargas could pitch, can’t say the same for Schmidt who happens to be starting tonight, which means another loss for the Dodgers.
Wait a minute Eric!
I’m sticking around this thread to hear about all these teams that Jason Schmidt should have been traded to!
{sound of crickets echoes off into the distance}
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 31, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
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