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Dodgers / Mets, Game Two Thread

Eric___ned___reporters_2011_trade_deadline_tiny by Eric Stephen on in Game Threads

Los Angeles Dodgers at New York Mets, Jul 8, 2009 4:10 PM PDT


Here are tonight's lineups:

Dodgers              
     Mets
SS Furcal SS Cora       
2B Hudson 1B Murphy
LF Manny 3B Wright
3B Blake LF Sheffield    
1B Loretta RF Church
C Martin CF Reed
RF Ethier C Schneider
CF Kemp 2B Castillo
P Kuroda        P Perez

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Of course Loretta and Martin batting ahead of Ethier and Kemp.

With Ethier it makes sense since his batting against lefties is bad.

However Kemp is crushing LHP this season, his line is .384/.483/.630/1.113.

Kemp should bat at least 5th against LHP .

by Bison27 on Jul 8, 2009 3:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Is the game on Kcal?

If so, are they going to switch off this fire coverage?

by Yodasbrthr on Jul 8, 2009 4:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Crap.

That fire is in the Sepulveda Pass. That will screw up the 405 traffic and, therefore, my commute home.

by David Young on Jul 8, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm, yeah.

Right now the backup is 90 to Getty Center, which is pretty normal, albeit at slower speeds.

Thanks to the carpool lanes, I can actually make ok time from El Segundo via the 105/110 through downtown, believe it or not, although I’ve only done that once. PCH to Topanga will be screwed, I’m sure.

by David Young on Jul 8, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Although SM is a little out of the way. Got the whole west side to choose from though.

by David Young on Jul 8, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone who takes on Well's contract

should not be adding any players to the pot. It might be the worse contract in baseball at this point. I’m a little surprised that Toronto isn’t tying Wells contract to Halladay. The return wouldn’t be as great but it would free up some major assets for this winter.

by meercatjohn on Jul 8, 2009 4:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Hell no to that Halladay trade, should we just give them stadium too in that proposed rumor trade.

Talk about getting raped, the Blue Jays would be bending us over if that trade happened.

by Bison27 on Jul 8, 2009 4:06 PM PDT reply actions  

From DT

Steiner reports that Belisario’s MRI showed no structural damage so we will now see if this is just a brief rest for Ronald.

Posted by: bhsportsguy | July 08, 2009 at 04:10 PM

by Tripon on Jul 8, 2009 4:13 PM PDT reply actions  

That is good news.

If Mota continues to pitch well and if J-Mac can be good out of the pen then should give Torre some flexibility with the pen when all are healthy.

by Bison27 on Jul 8, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Blake with a 2 out walk.

Hudson to 2nd, Kemp should be up but Loretta is

by Bison27 on Jul 8, 2009 4:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Torre is trying to limit Kemp’s at bats this year. Don’t want him to blow out a rotator cuff.
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Jul 8, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Torre A Genius

for batting Loretta fifth. :)
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Jul 8, 2009 4:20 PM PDT reply actions  

I will not complain about the batting order for now hahaha

by Bison27 on Jul 8, 2009 4:20 PM PDT reply actions  

LOL

Was Furcal just throwing sunflower seeds at o dogs head?

by SeanMillerSavior on Jul 8, 2009 4:21 PM PDT reply actions  

I didn't notice

but I went back and watched again and yes he was. haha Nice catch!

by Yodasbrthr on Jul 8, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

that was awful

I'm nobody's fool, least of all yours

by BoulderDodger on Jul 8, 2009 4:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh fuck you Ump.

That was a strike yesterday jackass.

by Tripon on Jul 8, 2009 4:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Ah, but a Wally Bell strikezone is apparently different from a John Hirschbeck one.

by David Young on Jul 8, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I downloaded it, and then chose not to listen to it.

Keith Law did have a podcast today in the fantasy baseball one. I’d listen to that one.

by Tripon on Jul 8, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who'd USC get?

Considering what pub Kevin O’Neill keeps on getting, you’d think USC basketball is doomed.

by Tripon on Jul 8, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

O'Neill

needs to exclusively focus on the class of 2011 – almost all Pac 10 schools are gonna be full and with very few rides. He can do some decent work if he just takes what he can in 2010, but focuses on that.

by oshea2002 on Jul 8, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

i took it off my ipod 2 months ago because those two guys are idiots…lazy idiots to boot

by KellyStephen on Jul 8, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

who are the umpires for the game?

by Alex L on Jul 8, 2009 4:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Umpires: HP—Wally Bell. 1B—Marty Foster. 2B—Chad Fairchild. 3B—John Hirschbeck.

by Xeifrank on Jul 8, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

R. Furcal walked
- O. Hudson grounded into fielder’s choice, R. Furcal out at second
- M. Ramirez flied out to deep center
- C. Blake walked, O. Hudson to second
- M. Loretta singled to center, O. Hudson scored, C. Blake to third
- R. Martin fouled out to first

by Xeifrank on Jul 8, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, I decided not to take the unabomber manifesto route.
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Jul 8, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ethier swings at some bad pitches :(

by shoothoop on Jul 8, 2009 4:36 PM PDT reply actions  

LHPs do have a way of making LH batters look pretty foolish sometimes.

by David Young on Jul 8, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eric Collins

is the only play-by-play announcer I’ve ever heard discuss BABIP and UZR.

by silverwidow on Jul 8, 2009 4:38 PM PDT reply actions  

C’mon…can’t i have my twice per game bitch about this????

by KellyStephen on Jul 8, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wish I had a twice per game bitch.

by David Young on Jul 8, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

excellent retort! And I agree!

by KellyStephen on Jul 8, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just curious

What lineup do people think would score the most runs (of the 8 playing today)?
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Jul 8, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kemp
Furcal
Manny
Blake
Loretta
Hudson
Ethier
Martin
Kuroda

by silverwidow on Jul 8, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

How many more runs do you think your lineup would score per game?
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Jul 8, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Furcal
Hudson
Manny
Ethier
Kemp
Blake
Martin
Loretta
Kuroda

by Tripon on Jul 8, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

You would bat the lefty fourth vs a LHP?
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Jul 8, 2009 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Has Torre explained why Kemp bats so low?

by shoothoop on Jul 8, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, but it really boils down to Torre not wanting to put too much pressure on his youngest starting position player, believing that playing CF every day already provides enough pressure.

If Kemp hits like this all season, he will be hitter higher eventually. Like in 2010. After all, in 2010, something wonderful happens.

by David Young on Jul 8, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t really mind all that much that Kemp bats so low, it is what it is.

by shoothoop on Jul 8, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

44 pitches for Perez in 2 innings

especially nice because of Pelfrey’s short start yesterday

by spike238e on Jul 8, 2009 4:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Does Kuroda know how to yield only one base at a time?

by David Young on Jul 8, 2009 4:51 PM PDT reply actions  

there goes the shutout

by Alex L on Jul 8, 2009 4:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Offensive juggernaut those Mets.

by David Young on Jul 8, 2009 4:53 PM PDT reply actions  

did you listen to his press conference today?

by shoothoop on Jul 8, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I guess Lakers are now hoodified

by trainwreck84 on Jul 8, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or simple as do re mi, A-B-C, 1-2-3, ….

by David Young on Jul 8, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hudson should have been a little dramatic on that play

by shoothoop on Jul 8, 2009 4:59 PM PDT reply actions  

According to ESPN

Manny Ramirez probably doing steroids is the most important and worst story mankind has ever seen.

by trainwreck84 on Jul 8, 2009 5:01 PM PDT reply actions  

manny manny blah blah manny blah blah blah juan pierre blah blah

:)

by shoothoop on Jul 8, 2009 5:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Two-out walk. Keep Perez throwing anyway.

by David Young on Jul 8, 2009 5:02 PM PDT reply actions  

43.2 TB Pace

unless my math is wrong.
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Jul 8, 2009 5:11 PM PDT reply actions  

I would never question your math

without triple-checking mine first. And I’m not spending that amount of time on it now!

by David Young on Jul 8, 2009 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sheesh

Four hits against Kuroda, three doubles, one single.

by David Young on Jul 8, 2009 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

this early in the game

by Alex L on Jul 8, 2009 5:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Error Blake

on double play ball. 3-1 Mets.
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Jul 8, 2009 5:20 PM PDT reply actions  

I'd have to look this up, but

Blake doesn’t make many errors, but when he does, it does seem to be at some pretty inopportune moments.

by David Young on Jul 8, 2009 5:22 PM PDT reply actions  

how close is Kuroda getting to Perez’s pitch count?

by David Young on Jul 8, 2009 5:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Total bases racking up like crazy.
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Jul 8, 2009 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wasn’t the scouting report when they signed Kuroda that he really knows how to “bear down” in these kinds of situations?

by David Young on Jul 8, 2009 5:26 PM PDT reply actions  

To be fair, Kuroda did get grounders from Wright and Church.

by David Young on Jul 8, 2009 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

And he was unlucky with Castillo’s chopper earlier too.

by David Young on Jul 8, 2009 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I picked a good game to listen only intermittently while at work.

Plenty of time for the comeback however.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 8, 2009 5:28 PM PDT reply actions  

45.3 TB Pace

assuming Mets don’t bat in 9th inning. Once again, that’s if my math is correct.
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Jul 8, 2009 5:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Yep

45 total bases
Furcal

by Alex L on Jul 8, 2009 1:25 PM PDT

by Xeifrank on Jul 8, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Looks like Kuroda will bat

Maybe he will bunt if Kemp gets on, then get pinch hit for if Kemp gets out?
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Jul 8, 2009 5:32 PM PDT reply actions  

didn't

there used to be an old timers game during the All Star Break way back when?

by EdfromAZ on Jul 8, 2009 5:37 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Raffy’s looked a lot better.

by shoothoop on Jul 8, 2009 5:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Perez gets the 5-4-3 that Kuroda was denied.

by David Young on Jul 8, 2009 5:43 PM PDT reply actions  

I could only hear Steiner, and he didn’t even raise his voice an octave, so I knew it was an out :)

by Eric Stephen on Jul 8, 2009 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

3rd walk for blake

by shoothoop on Jul 8, 2009 5:53 PM PDT reply actions  

“You don’t want a locker next to me?” hahha Kershaw

by shoothoop on Jul 8, 2009 5:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Missed that exchange.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 8, 2009 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

The guys were saying how Wolf is changing his number back to 43 (he couldn’t get it before because random guys were being assigned the number and the number is finally free so he decided he’s going to change it) and Kershaw asked him “Why is it because you want to be 4-3” (Wolf’s record right now is 3-3). So Wolf goes "Yeah, Then after, for my next start I’m going to change it to 53 and so on

Then I guess Kershaw paused and he asked “You don’t want a locker next to me?” because when the guys are on the road their lockers are assigned through numerical order.

:)

by shoothoop on Jul 8, 2009 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

How come we can’t score

by shoothoop on Jul 8, 2009 5:59 PM PDT reply actions  

read somewhere

that Griffey Jr. wore just one white batting glove while at the plate today. Pretty clever tribute.

by EdfromAZ on Jul 8, 2009 6:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Thumbs up for the game on TV....

Thumbs down for Rick Sutcliffe announcing. The game only exists to give him subjects on which to go off-topic for several pitches at a time.

by bpriebe on Jul 8, 2009 6:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Luckily, we won’t see one of those until perhaps Milwaukee (OK, maybe K-Rod)

by Eric Stephen on Jul 8, 2009 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

idk

yeah they cant capitalize off all these walks…

by shaqfor3 on Jul 8, 2009 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just started up Gameday.

Someone wanna give me a short explanation of how they’ve scored 4 runs off Hiro?

"The right to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins." -Oliver W. Holmes

by Jesse S. on Jul 8, 2009 6:05 PM PDT reply actions  

This feels like the 4th inning all over again

by shoothoop on Jul 8, 2009 6:08 PM PDT reply actions  

don’t say that!

by Alex L on Jul 8, 2009 6:09 PM PDT reply actions  

There goes my Hiro…watch him as he goes.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 8, 2009 6:12 PM PDT reply actions  

He has been pretty good, just a bit unlucky…he walk & strikeout rates have been excellent

by Eric Stephen on Jul 8, 2009 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

“he walk” ? Is that the opposite of “he gone”?

by David Young on Jul 8, 2009 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

WAde…………….

by shoothoop on Jul 8, 2009 6:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Key AB here

either a good Wade outing (1 run with bases loaded, 1 out is good) or bad.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 8, 2009 6:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Gameday App sucks down the iPhone battery, even while plugged in and charging!

by Eric Stephen on Jul 8, 2009 6:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Wow, that's bad.

"The right to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins." -Oliver W. Holmes

by Jesse S. on Jul 8, 2009 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lol these umps suck

by shoothoop on Jul 8, 2009 6:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Good outing for Wade!!!

by Eric Stephen on Jul 8, 2009 6:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Time to get him a cheap win now :)

by Eric Stephen on Jul 8, 2009 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

1 run allowed with bases loaded

not bad
coulda been alot worse
theyre fortunate…

by shaqfor3 on Jul 8, 2009 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

…and I hope the Dodgers are tied or ahead by the time I get home.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 8, 2009 6:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Heart of the lineup coming up.

Time to showcase our ex-steroids-using player!

"The right to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins." -Oliver W. Holmes

by Jesse S. on Jul 8, 2009 6:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Don't DP. Let Manny bat!

This will be his last at bat anyway.

by Tripon on Jul 8, 2009 6:34 PM PDT reply actions  

ESPN announcers are talking about Odog’s wrist

by shoothoop on Jul 8, 2009 6:35 PM PDT reply actions  

O Dog back to scuffling

Really hope he sits out the all star game

by oshea2002 on Jul 8, 2009 6:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Do you think batting Kemp higher up

could’ve secured him a spot at the All-Star game?

I think with those extra bats Kemp could’ve gotten himself picked as a reserve.

"The right to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins." -Oliver W. Holmes

by Jesse S. on Jul 8, 2009 6:38 PM PDT reply actions  

What if he went 0-for all those extra ABs?

He may still be an injury replacement for Beltran or Ibanez.

by David Young on Jul 8, 2009 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

What makes you think he'd go 0-for in all those ABs?

"The right to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins." -Oliver W. Holmes

by Jesse S. on Jul 8, 2009 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

damn

10 guys stranded…

by shaqfor3 on Jul 8, 2009 6:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Cora with a 2 pitch AB

Now that’s regressing to the mean.

by David Young on Jul 8, 2009 6:43 PM PDT reply actions  

I think thatd be really interesting to see matty

bat in front of manny..base stealing speed and power, and he’d probably see better pitches…I’d also like to see dewitt maybe get a start or two at 2nd before the all star break

O.A.

by Ollie on Jul 8, 2009 6:44 PM PDT reply actions  

I think thats were he should be hitting

by Heyward is the next crime dog on Jul 8, 2009 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

It feels like its the 8th inning not the 6th.

by shoothoop on Jul 8, 2009 6:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Could Russ possibly be heating up?

by pdotmac1 on Jul 8, 2009 6:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Gameday shows a lot of balls and strikes not being called for balls and strikes.

Is it really that bad?

"The right to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins." -Oliver W. Holmes

by Jesse S. on Jul 8, 2009 6:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Pierre for Dre?

"The right to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins." -Oliver W. Holmes

by Jesse S. on Jul 8, 2009 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

It makes no sense, and would kill us defensively, but if he drops into the .230’s or something, I bet you Torre thinks about it. I know the media will.

by oshea2002 on Jul 8, 2009 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Strike zone

According to Brooks baseball, looks high and wide, kinda like last night:

by David Young on Jul 8, 2009 7:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Well not so much “high” as “not low”. And it looks like the Mets got screwed on low pitches quite a bit more than the Dodgers.

by David Young on Jul 8, 2009 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ethier

I hope at some point he decides that hitting a fly ball in every at-bat is not the answer. Guess the 14 double plays already spooked him. 30 HR’s and a .220 average instead of 20 HR’s and a .300 is not a good trade.

by bpriebe on Jul 8, 2009 7:05 PM PDT reply actions  

bullpen ..

pitching has been fantastic, but they’ve
had to be….

by Pedro's curse on Jul 8, 2009 7:12 PM PDT reply actions  

That's why they call him The ...

→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→

by David Young on Jul 8, 2009 7:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Not gonna get it done

we need baserunners, and K Rod will be in next

by oshea2002 on Jul 8, 2009 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

So who’s the player that told the ESPN announcer about Orlando’s wrist ?

by shoothoop on Jul 8, 2009 7:15 PM PDT reply actions  

The ESPN announcers keep saying that the reason Orlando is slumping is because of his wrist, and it might hurt. Then they brought up him tightening his gloves after every swing, and not swinging with any confidence. Now, they brought up the fact that one of the players when asked about Odog slumping brought up his whole wrist injury thing, but the announcer was all "I hate having to say “a player” told me that, but he said not to bring up his name"

something along those lines

by shoothoop on Jul 8, 2009 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

damn

after the kemp triple everyone else went down quietly

by shaqfor3 on Jul 8, 2009 7:16 PM PDT reply actions  

it does really:)

by Alex L on Jul 8, 2009 7:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Why is Troncoso in?

by shoothoop on Jul 8, 2009 7:20 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m scared he’s going to get injured too. The only guy with more inning pitched than Beli is Tron..

by shoothoop on Jul 8, 2009 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

He hasn't pitched since last Sat. So he's due work.

But it should have been in the 5th when it was higher leveraged.

by Tripon on Jul 8, 2009 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Saturday – good point.

Fifth might be a little early, leverage or not. But debatable.

by David Young on Jul 8, 2009 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

The other choices are McDonald and Vargas, who both pitched yesterday, and Broxton. Weaver is being saved for start on Sat.

by David Young on Jul 8, 2009 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wish he would have kept Leach / Mota in longer…

by shoothoop on Jul 8, 2009 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think PHing for the pitcher’s spot was necessary.

by David Young on Jul 8, 2009 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Torre is using a lot of relievers today.. is this the 3rd reliever? 4th? Especially in a losing effort. bleh

by shoothoop on Jul 8, 2009 7:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Kuroda couldn’t get out of the fifth. Not much Torre can do but use a fair number of relievers.

by David Young on Jul 8, 2009 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

it should be a 3-3 game

by Alex L on Jul 8, 2009 7:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Could have held the Mets to two runs

If Castillo doesn’t get lucky on the chopper, and if Blake doesn’t make the error and turns two.

by David Young on Jul 8, 2009 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Alex L on Jul 8, 2009 7:31 PM PDT reply actions  

4th walk for Blake?!

by shoothoop on Jul 8, 2009 7:32 PM PDT reply actions  

True,

he didn’t belong in that part of the batting order.

by Pedro's curse on Jul 8, 2009 7:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Btw I wish Joe would have put Loney in but I guess he wanted him to get a full days rest

by shoothoop on Jul 8, 2009 7:37 PM PDT reply actions  

C’mon Ethier….

by shoothoop on Jul 8, 2009 7:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Danng, just missed an opportunity

by shoothoop on Jul 8, 2009 7:38 PM PDT reply actions  

ethier sucks

Dodgers - 2008 NL West Champions
Cardinals - 2008 NFC Champions

by wongy on Jul 8, 2009 7:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Missed too many opportunities today

by shoothoop on Jul 8, 2009 7:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Good thing Kemp was hitting 8th

so we didn’t have a major league hitter up in that situation.

by bpriebe on Jul 8, 2009 7:41 PM PDT reply actions  

And the same Ethier who has been terrible lately.

Walk-off hits are great, but so is consistent production. One single in 18 days. 8 for his last 53. The list can go on and on. He is not a good hitter right now, plain and simple.

Saying he is not a major league hitter was a bit reactionary (and patently false), but he has been pretty bad for a long stretch outside of a couple of clutch hits and a fair number of home runs.

by bpriebe on Jul 8, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

He is slumping

But l don’t believe lineups should be dictated by hot hands and slumps – you can’t predict when those begin and end. Matt Kemp has been pretty consistent and this hitting 8th stuff is getting a little old. I think Joe is now too fascinated with wrapping his speed around to the top of the order.

by David Young on Jul 8, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

i agree…a bit of perspective…they f’d up early in the game when they couldn’t capitalize on Perez’ 7 BB’s

by KellyStephen on Jul 8, 2009 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

It should have been Troncoso.

I don’t care if it was the 5th. That situation was tailor made for him.

by Tripon on Jul 8, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Troncoso walked Luis Castillo in the inning he did pitch

He could just as easily have walked in a run in the fifth. The fifth, IMO, is still kinda early for leverage and smoke jumpers.

by David Young on Jul 8, 2009 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Troncoso would have pitched differently with men on bases then he did in the 8th.

You can’t just say that Troncoso would have just walked somebody in the 5th.

by Tripon on Jul 8, 2009 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eh, wasn’t trying to say that. Just might have. The important point is the last sentence.

by David Young on Jul 8, 2009 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

We will never know, no point to focus on it.

Ethier grounded into the double play.
Casey made that error.
That one ball hit took an unlucky bounce.
Had Loretta been called safe at first we potentially could have got a run in.

All the things COULD HAVE happened but they didn’t. Sometimes it’s just not your night. You win some, you lose some. You can’t win em’ all

by shoothoop on Jul 8, 2009 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed with you there

by shoothoop on Jul 8, 2009 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it's fair to pin this stuff on Torre

His ridiculous and pathetic lineup is really starting to cost us. Loretta in the 5 hole and Kemp in the 8th slot is the kind of shit only Tony La Russa could get away with. It’s a joke.

by oshea2002 on Jul 8, 2009 7:43 PM PDT reply actions  

I got to say ...

Torre’s lineup’s often confound me….

by Pedro's curse on Jul 8, 2009 7:44 PM PDT reply actions  

I'll agree that Kemp batting eight is something to complain about

but complaining about Wade and Ethier is simply whining. Andre has come thru plenty of times in big situations and Wade did his job. So did Mota again, the same guy most of you wanted released in April.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jul 8, 2009 7:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Very true

The difference is you can’t control double plays, errors, men LOB, etc.

Kemp’s situation is an intentional act on Torre’s part that is hurting the team.

by oshea2002 on Jul 8, 2009 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

You want something to complain about

Andruw Jones hit his 12th home run tonight. Chew on that tonight.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jul 8, 2009 7:48 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't think it's fair to complain about Wade's performance.

He did his job. Only gave up 1 run with bases loaded, 1 out. That’s performing

I question whether he should be on the team though.

by oshea2002 on Jul 8, 2009 7:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Kuroda kind of sucked considering the lineup he faced. If anyone wears the goat horns it is him. Then Hudson, then Ethier. But it is just one game. Ethier’s streaks are frustrating when he’s off but other worldly when he’s on. I’ll prefer a more consistent approach but how many Manny’s are there?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jul 8, 2009 7:57 PM PDT reply actions  

I think Kuroda combined some suck with some unlucky. Castillo could easily been out on the two-out RBI chopper. Blake could have turned two and gotten out of that inning with one run instead of three.

It’s just too bad that tomorrow isn’t a house money game.

by David Young on Jul 8, 2009 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Make that 13 for Andruw - two so far tonight

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jul 8, 2009 8:00 PM PDT reply actions  

His physician must be more discreet than Manny’s. ;)

by David Young on Jul 8, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ogden is bitchslapping their opponents 19-1

Songco is continuing his power showcase tonight with 3 more hits.

by silverwidow on Jul 8, 2009 9:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Coolies.

He should get promoted ASAP.

by Tripon on Jul 8, 2009 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

ANDRUW JONES HIT 3 HOME RUns TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!

HOW MANY DID HE HIT FOR THE DODGERS ALL LAST YEAR

3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by matthewmafa on Jul 8, 2009 10:03 PM PDT reply actions  

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2012 Dodgers Payroll

Italics denote estimates
Pos No Player 2012 Salary
C 17 Ellis $500,000 team control
1B 7 Loney $6,375,000
2B 14 Ellis $2,500,000
3B 5 Uribe $8,000,000
SS 9 Gordon $485,000 team control
LF 21 Rivera $4,000,000
CF 27 Kemp $10,000,000
RF 16 Ethier $10,950,000
IF/OF 6 Hairston $2,250,000
OF 10 Gwynn $850,000
2B/3B 3 Kennedy $800,000
C 18 Treanor $850,000
IF 12 Sellers $485,000 team control
SP 22 Kershaw $6,000,000
SP 58 Billingsley $9,000,000
SP 29 Lilly $12,000,000
SP 35 Capuano $3,000,000
SP 44
 Harang $3,000,000
CL 54 Guerra $485,000 team control
RHP 74
Jansen $500,000 team control
RHP 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
RHP 60 Coffey $1,000,000
RHP 66 MacDougal $650,000
LHP 57 Elbert $485,000 team control
RHP 36
Hawksworth $500,000 team control
TJ 41 De La Rosa $485,000 team control


Manny $8,087,432 deferred


Andruw $3,375,000 deferred


Pierre $3,050,000 deferred
Furcal $3,000,000 deferred
Kuroda $2,000,000 deferred
Garland $1,500,000 option buyout
Blake $1,250,000 option buyout
Totals
$112,162,432

For more detailed information, click here.

Players on 40-man roster used as roster
fillers until moves are made.

Current 40-man roster count: 40
(not including Belisario)

2012 Non-Roster Invitees

No Player Age*
63 Jose Ascanio rhp
 27
61 Alberto Castillo lhp
 36
56 Matt Chico lhp
 29
33 John Grabow lhp
 33
59 Angel Guzman rhp
 30
47 Wil Ledezma lhp
 31
72 Shane Lindsay rhp
 27
62 Fernando Nieve rhp 29
73 Scott Rice lhp 30
70 Will Savage rhp
 27
71 Ryan Tucker rhp
 25
28 Jamey Wright rhp
 37
30 Josh Bard c 34
82 Griff Erickson c 24
81 Matt Wallachc 26
67 Jeff Baisley 3b/1b 29
65 Luis Cruz ss/2b 28
37 Josh Fields 3b 29
64 Lance Zawadzki if 27
56 Cory Sullivan of 32
*Age on June 30, 2012

NRI count: 20

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