Chad Billingsley & Bequeathed Runs
Chad Billingsley has struggled of late, putting up a 1-2 record and 7.52 ERA in July. Over on Dodger Thoughts, Jon Weisman noted just how well Billingsley has pitched in his first five innings, allowing just 2.78 runs per nine innings. Jon also noted:
I'm not saying Billingsley can't pitch past the fifth inning. But if he gets in trouble past the fifth inning, the Dodgers have enough bullpen depth that they don't need to try to wring every last pitch from him. They don't need to punish him with their expectations of him.
It is an intriguing thought, to be sure. In the comment section, Tripon made the following observation:
Part of the pain is finding a reliever who can limit the runs when Chad is eventually pulled with men on bases.
He's been unlucky there.
With Tuesday's sixth inning implosion by Billingsley fresh in my mind, I decided to check to see if that was indeed the case. What can I say? I'm an inquisitive person by nature. If there was a website called Sunrise-Reference.com, I would double check it often just to make sure the sun actually rose in the east.
Instead, I used Baseball-Reference.com to find Chad Billingsley's game logs, then used the invaluable run expectancy matrix from Baseball Prospectus. In case you need a refresher from my analysis of Guillermo Mota's inherited runs, the run expectancy matrix looks at each base-out situation. For instance, if a team has runners on second and third with one out, it is expected (based on actual play-by-play data this season) to score about 1.42 runs the remainder of the inning, on average.
In Billingsley's case, we are not looking at inherited runs, but rather bequeathed runs. We're going to use this to look at the ten starts in which Billingsley left with men on base:
| Date | Bases | Outs | Exp Runs | Scored | Runs Saved |
| April 23 |
1-- | 1 | 0.53546 | 0 | 0.53546 |
| April 28 | 12- | 1 | 0.92188 | 1 | (0.07812) |
| May 19 | 1-- | 1 | 0.53546 | 0 | 0.53546 |
| June 9 | 1-- | 2 | 0.21968 | 0 | 0.21968 |
| June 14 | 1-- | 0 | 0.88079 | 0 | 0.88079 |
| June 30 | 1-- | 2 | 0.21968 | 0 | 0.21968 |
| July 5 | -2- | 0 | 1.13399 | 1 | 0.13399 |
| July 10 | 123 | 0 | 2.28376 | 1 | 1.28376 |
| July 17 | -2- | 2 | 0.32289 | 0 | 0.32289 |
| July 28 | 12- | 2 | 0.46053 | 1 | (0.53947) |
| Totals | 7.51412 | 4 | 3.51412 | ||
Billingsley's relievers have only allowed four of his runs to score. Perhaps it is fresh in our mind since three of those runs have occurred in the last month, but the fact is that based on the situation Billingsley left them in, the relievers "should" have given up even more, about three and a half runs more. In only two of these ten starts did Billingsley's relievers give up more runs than average. If anything, Billingsley has been lucky, perhaps if only slightly.
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Great stuff Eric
We can’t lower our expectations on Chad to a five inning pitcher. If that is all he is then we shouldn’t have been worried about trading him for the Doc. He’s needs to be better then that, alot better.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
What he needs to be is a 8 inning 110 pitch count pitcher and not a 110 5 inning pitcher.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
It would be nice if he is only going to go five innings
that he at least pitch as well as Clayton for those five innings.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
If we are going to put Chad in the same converstation
as the other top pitchers in baseball then he needs to meet those standards, for more then a few months at a time.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Basically he's
Don’t throw things but he’s Brad Penny. High pitch counts, lots of foul balls. Chad needs to get more swings and misses and he needs to be more consistent in the zone early in the game so teams don’t wait him out.
chad needs to get more swings and misses?
hes second in the whole mlb in swings and misses behind Javier Vasquez. But it just seems like he gets all these swings and misses with either 0 strikes or 1 strike. I personally think he needs to do a better job of setting up hitters. Throwing his fastball early in the count and striking them out with the cutter and curve. He throws his cutter with 1 strike and gets a swing and miss but that does nothing cause now they have seen the cutter and they wont bite on it or they will foul it off or put it in play.
Also i think he should throw the 2 seam fastball at lefties belt and make it come back to the inside corner. Roy halladay does this perfectly and he carves up left hand hitters without much of a change up using 2 seem, cutter , curve. When you throw a cutter in to leftys and they lay off it for a ball, then they will lay off the 2 seemer cause that doesnt start in the strike zone at all while a cutter does
“Reporting from Atlanta — Russell Martin blamed himself for the outcome. So did Orlando Hudson and Randy Wolf.
But in a game with as many pivotal moments as the Dodgers’ 4-3 loss to the Atlanta Braves on Saturday, could any of them reasonably be held accountable as the primary cause of defeat, especially when a few inches here and there spelled the difference between success and failure?"
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-dodgers-braves2-2009aug02,0,5517757.story
Its a good season when multiple guys can say, “Yeah, that’s my fault” and it doesn’t really matter much in the scheme of things.
yea if he does it a couple more times
it is going start to matter, especially if it is during the playoffs
Canuck said this on 7/21/09
Nobody knows what prospects Colletti is going to end up giving away in trade(s), but when I think about prospects that Colletti is likely to be offering, Steve Johnson’s name always tops the list. That is, he is good bet to have a major league future, but the Dodgers probably don’t see him having a high enough ceiling to worry that they will ever miss him.
Nice call
but if Steve Johnson had not impressed at AA would the Orioles have even called his name? I don’t think we will miss Johnson at all, but I do worry about Josh Bell, he was really coming into his own. I understand Kensai’s point about moving prospects now instead of waiting for the bigger fish, but Sherrill looks like he was brought in for three big reasons.
1. Phillies – Utley, Howard, Ibanez
2. Kuo Insurance
3. Take pressure off Troncoso so he’s not burned out by the playoffs
Sure I’d have rather used those chips for Adrian or Halladay but I don’t believe Leach or Elbert were ready for the role we are going to ask of Sherrill.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Withrow's promotion
Are you excited about it, too? I think it’s a good indication that we’ll see him in the big leagues next year if he does well.
I'm excited because I think that means he's going to the AFL
and I’ll get to see him pitch against more advanced competition.
After the deadline, I’m excited that we still have Withrow, Eovaldi, Lindblom, Martin, and Gordon. And Abreu, I still expect him to develop into Orando Hudson. Someone should have stolen him from us.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I'm with Phil
Billingsley simply needs to perform better. Having a guy who can only go 5 is basically Greg Maddux from last year. Chad needs to be held to a higher standard – I don’t know if that entails working through this, taking a different approach in between starts, being in better shape, what.
Brilliant
little table Eric. Well analyzed!
The betting public has pushed the Braves win probability up from 53% (opening line) to a recent probability of 55.16%. I wonder what perception is pushing the Braves up as a larger favorite. At the same time the Over/Under total has gone from 7.7 up to 7.9. Somewhere along the line, the betting public thinks the Braves are going to score more runs. Are they anticipating a lineup change (McCann??) or just that the original line was a little off? Time will tell.
vr, Xei
Eric - your tables are great
earlier the misconception was the Mota was giving up more inherited runs then reality and now you show that Chad is actually lucky. Baseball HQ has a stat for this called Strand Rate:
Strand Rate as a Leading Indicator. Strand Rate finds great utility in explaining variances between a pitcher’s ERA and his performance indicators. Pitchers with strand rates over 80% almost always have exemplary ERAs. Starters and middle relievers who post this level in a given season have an 80% likelihood of watching their ERA rise in the following year. The percentage drops to 50% for short relievers. Pitchers with strand rates under 65% almost always have inflated ERAs, but have an 89% likelihood of watching their ERA improve in the following year. In addition, 83% will improve their ERA by more than one run.
Chad has a strand rate of .70% with an xERA of 4.14 compared to his actual of 3.96. We have stopped using the term ace with Chad because he simply has stopped pitching like an ace. Nothing wrong with our definition, he simply isn’t measuring up to the qualifications. He has plenty of time to turn that around but if he doesn’t, and we struggle in the playoffs, while Doc continues his move toward consideration for the AL Cy Young then you have to wonder if all of us who mocked those who called for Chad to be the centerpiece of the Doc deal were barking up the wrong tree.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I still wouldn’t trade Bills for Halladay. Not for a second. :)
I would like to know exactly what Toronto’s asking price was, in the package that included Chad though.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 2, 2009 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn't either, you'd need to see more struggles from him
Over a much longer period of time before I’d consider moving him. At this point, I think he’s much more likely to right the ship then not.
I think if you reach a period of time like Martin has gone through, multiple seasons, you can start questioning his overall effectiveness as a player.
Me either
just saying if Chad continues to struggle and does struggle in the playoffs then the ammunition for those who advocated trading him will be used as I told you so’s at the end of the season and it will be harder to counter argue.
Chad could make all this a moot point by performing up to his level of talent that we had come to expect. Kershaw answered those who advocated trading him with a gem, Chad answered by seeming to prove he’s only a five inning pitcher. My expectations are higher then that, if we are going to make hay in the playoffs he needs to start living upto those expectations. We can only use his Cub playoff game as a counter so long.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
What I kind of liked from the table above is that in five of the starts Chad left with just a man on first. Those are the Torre-patented let’s see if he can get through one more inning but I’m pulling him after one baserunner moves. :)
I don’t necessarily disagree with that practice by Torre, in that sometimes you try to steal or sneak an inning here and there to attempt to rest the bullpen. An example of that working was Kershaw’s last start, when he would have been pulled after a guy got on in the 8th, but that never happened.
But I know it can sometimes be maddening if that inning occurs right after the pitcher batted.
Is Holliday going to be the 2008 version of Manny?
What a start to his Cardinal career! Talk about making back all the millions he blew with his Oakland performance.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Steve Lyons said last week he thought Holliday would put up numbers at least as good as Manny last year. I scoffed.
Its still really early, but I’m tipping my cap to Psycho for now.
Man, it will be great when the Cardinals miss the playoffs :)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 2, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
the cardinals situation seems eerily similar to ours last year at this point
while ours seems quite similar to the Cubs of last year…lets hope things are different come October
O.A.
Doesn't anyone know the front office knows about this?
I mean, why else would we go after premier relief pitchers?
garrett gould
only 2 more weeks left to sign him…. i hope frank and ned dont let Another draft pick slip away and become a 1st round pick 3 years later….
No Hitter Alert
James Shields is No hitting the Royals through 6 innings.
what happens if a pitcher throws the no hitter but his team hasnt scored?
would they like celebrate them come up to bat?
O.A.
wow.. he was going for a 10 inning no hitter
but gave up a hit to the first batter he faced and they took him out… if only we had not traded pedro… wow
It was a perfect game too! First 27 up, 27 down
by Eric Stephen on Aug 2, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
kevin youkalis of the red sox
has a hit in 10 straight at bats and has reached base safely 12 straight at bats(2 walks).
woww
Dodger record is 14, by Pedro Guerrero in July 1985. I looked it up a couple weeks back when Ethier got to 8 straight.
I don’t remember the MLB record, but I think it is something like 17 straight…maybe Ted Williams.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 2, 2009 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
youkalis got on base 2 more time via the walk
so its 14 in a row now..
Brian Bannister was pitching for the Royals in this game against the Rays.
Lowered his ERA to 3.59 with today’s outing.
That sucks…a lost year for him, and the D-Backs.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 2, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions

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