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Dodgers Hope A Team Effort Beats a Tim Effort

Two games in:  so far, so good for the Dodgers in San Francisco.  The Dodgers have to face the best pitcher in baseball today in Tim Lincecum, but I haven't seen this team back down from a challenge yet.

Its an early start today, so go ahead and take a long lunch to take in at least a few innings of the game.

Since giving up a home run to Ryan Braun nine days ago, Jeff Weaver has retired 13 straight batters.  Only 32 more consecutive outs away from Mark Buehrle's MLB record, Weaver gets the start today for the Dodgers.  This is the sixth start for Weaver.  He pitched exactly five innings in his first four starts, but only lasted 3.1 innings in his last start.  Weaver pitched three innings on Sunday, throwing 25 pitches, so its unlikely he will be asked to pitch deep into this game.

Luckily, in addition to knuckleballer Charlie Haeger backing Weaver up, the Dodgers have a well-rested bullpen all ready to pitch with an off day coming on Thursday:

Matt Kemp doesn't have a walk in his last 59 plate appearances, but with 40 walks on the season he's still in line to meet my 50-walk challenge.  He also has 19 RBI in his last 13 games.

Half of Andre Ethier's last 78 hits are for extra bases (20 doubles, 2 triples, 17 home runs).

With Orlando Hudson likely out one more game, Ken Gurnick of MLB.com reports that the rest of the regulars are scheduled to play, except for Russell Martin, who is likely to sit in favor of Brad Ausmus today.

Get your guesses in for "Just A Bit Outside" here.

Game Time:  12:45pm

TV:  Prime Ticket

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This date in Dodger history

From the Dodger game notes:

On August 12, 1995, thanks to an odd play‚ the Dodgers defeat the Pirates‚ 11-10‚ in 11 innings at Dodger Stadium. With one out in the 11th and the potential winning run at third base, Mitch Webster swings at a pitch in the dirt. When Pittsburgh rookie catcher Angelo Encarnacion casually picks up the ball with his mask‚ Dodger manager Tommy Lasorda appeals‚ citing the rule which awards a runner two bases if a fielder uses his mask to touch a thrown ball. The umpires agree and allow the winning run to score. Encarnacion is given an error.

Not quite as cool as Joe Torre arguing for a run using the “fourth out” rule, but awesome nonetheless.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2009 8:47 AM PDT reply actions  

C'mon

How can the walk-off , win the argument on an obscure rule infraction victory in extra innings not be cooler? Walk off!

by David Young on Aug 12, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good point, but the equipment rule is more known.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not to me

I knew the “fourth out” rule, but I never would have caught the catcher’s mask thing. There isn’t a whole lot of equipment one could even think of using to pick up the ball – thrown gloves are different. Maybe Brent Leach might try picking up a slow roller to the mound with the rosin bag.

by David Young on Aug 12, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Both are awesome ways to score, but I’ll concede that since the Webster run gave the Dodgers the win it was cooler. :)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Way cooler

Mitch Webster was a character, a grinder, a PVL of the utmost degree.

by meercatjohn on Aug 12, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Plus, hasn’t he signed a number of our draftees? I think he is in the midwest…did he sign DeWitt and/or Elbert? I don’t have my Baseball America with me.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Very surprising

I thought Chris would be on a tear… But batting .198 with a ridiculous .656 OPS isn’t going to cut it

by PHAT JULIO on Aug 12, 2009 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

WOW

It wasn’t too long ago, he and Bison were the class of promising young CF’ers.

by ishXdavid on Aug 12, 2009 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes…and Jason Burgeois as well

by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Although his isn’t really much of an era. :)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Seems so

he was brought up. JJ Hardy was worth a ton a year ago.

Hall has a huge deal for next year so the only way we want him is if we move Pierre for him or he’s waived and the Brewcrew eat the salary. One year of Hall is better then two years of Pierre and Hall would be a natural fit to help out in RF against LHP. He can play 2nd, SS, 3rd, LF, RF, CF in a pinch.

by meercatjohn on Aug 12, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

More Hardy news:

FYI, what I’m hearing is that by being send down now, hardy is not eligible for FA until 2011

by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

In this economic climate

more and more of that is going to happen. The word on Travis Snider is that he won’t be brought up until after 8/15 because that keeps him from being a super two even though they moved Rios several days ago.

To me this all makes sense if you aren’t in a pennant race. Going to be another very cold winter for free agents this year. Don’t be surprised if players who would normally say no to arbitration say yes instead.

by meercatjohn on Aug 12, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

If the salaries of meteorologists are also getting affected negatively during this economic downturn, do they refer to the situation as “this economic climate?” :)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

haha bravo

I'm nobody's fool, least of all yours

by BoulderDodger on Aug 12, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s probably 50/50, but a risk worth taking for the club. If Wolf accepts, they probably get him back for something like $8-9 million, which is doable.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah i would take that

and its for just 1 year which makes it even better

by matthewmafa on Aug 12, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

or orlando hudson?

they would both want at least 2 year deals

by matthewmafa on Aug 12, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hudson wanted a multi-year offer this last offseason as well.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

i think we should offer arbritration to both

and let them walk and dont resign them…. but if either accepts, we will glady take them back for 1 year deals for 8 Mill

by matthewmafa on Aug 12, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

More change a Brewin: Bill Hall DFA’d

The Dodgers could do worse if they need a guy who can hit LHP…..275/.347/.484 vs LHP career. Struggling this year though: .244/.276/.415 against LHP (but better than his numbers against RHP).

by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2009 9:30 AM PDT reply actions  

I wouldn't mind Hall on the team

as a RH pinch hitter and possible emergency starter. On games where Loretta starts, we usually lack any righties on the bench.

by oshea2002 on Aug 12, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Brewers also fired pitching coach Bill Castro

Yeah, that’s Milwaukee’s problem, the pitching coach, they guy they themselves promoted after eighteen (something like that) years as the bullpen coach. You’d think a guy like that would at least be offered a reassignment.

by David Young on Aug 12, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that was unfortunate for him to be sure.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Matt Kemp doesn’t have a walk in his last 59 plate appearances

It’s hard to walk when you are driving the hittable pitches instead of fouling them off. Hard to get to three-ball counts that way. :)

by David Young on Aug 12, 2009 10:12 AM PDT reply actions  

Also, he does still walk…just around the bases

by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

For Phil & mwhite06

Clips got Rasual Butler (a name I never think is spelled right) for a 2nd round pick.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2009 10:14 AM PDT reply actions  

Yes, I think they will get a high seed in the “offseason” playoffs. :)
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Aug 12, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

No lottery this year-book it Dano

They are picking up sweet pieces from teams who need to shed payroll and still keeping salary flexibility in the future.

by meercatjohn on Aug 12, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

You don't say that very often

With the Clips.
With that number 1 pick, they just saved their ticket season holders and more…

by PHAT JULIO on Aug 12, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wasn't just the number one pick

every move this summer has been great.
Hollinger breaks it down.

Los Angeles Clippers
They stunk last season, plus they’re the Clippers, which means they could screw this up at a moment’s notice. But the offseason certainly pleased the Clipper faithful. First overall pick Blake Griffin should be a double-double guy immediately, and the trade of Zach Randolph for Quentin Richardson gives the Clips cap space for a free-agent run next year. Better yet, they parlayed Richardson into frontcourt depth with a second deal with Minnesota for underrated forward Craig Smith.

But the biggest reason to like the Clips is because they were going to be better anyway. Baron Davis, Chris Kaman and Ricky Davis should all be in much better physical condition for this go-round, and second-year pro Eric Gordon should improve, too. Whether it’s enough for a playoff run remains to be seen, but this version of the Clips should keep us entertained.

by meercatjohn on Aug 12, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Make no mistake about it

They have DEPTH.
They have veteran leadership.
They have the “up and comings”.
They have a lot of spending cash for next year.
The Clips are a force to be reckon with in years to come. I’m a huge Lakers fan and I got to say, I’m a little jealous. But as a huge sports fan, I’m excited for the Gordon/Griffen era. As long as Baron doesn’t “get his” while shooting better, the Clips will make the playoffs. I really do think Baron is the x-factor to the Clips 09-10 season.

The Clippers and Thunder.
It’s the future

by PHAT JULIO on Aug 12, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sure is

amazing how quickly New Orleans went from the future to the past.

by meercatjohn on Aug 12, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Day games are screwy…reporters are still allowed in 3.5 hours before gametime, but a lot of times players don’t even report for another hour, or at least aren’t required to.

Everything is on a different pace on day games, lineup included.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Posted on the Dodger Forums:

“Matt Kemp ranks 1st in:

Hits
RBI
BA
SLG
OPS

Top 5 in:

3B
HR
OBP
K

He’s 6th in AB (despite hitting 7th most of the time), runs scored, and 7th in SB.

A star is being born."

That’s so crazy, but I’m not surprised.

by Talka1ot on Aug 12, 2009 11:15 AM PDT reply actions  

Dodger Lineup

per Inside the Dodgers:

Furcal, SS
Martin, C
Ethier, RF
Manny, LF
Blake, 3B
Loney, 1B
Kemp, CF
Castro, 2B
Weaver, P

by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2009 11:27 AM PDT reply actions  

Can't be right:

I thought the consensus was that Martin would not play today?

by Talka1ot on Aug 12, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think tomorrow’s day off, plus Hudson’s injury, factored into keeping Mr. OBP in there.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

career vs lincecum

martin 0 for 7 4 Ks
ethier 2 for 11 5 Ks
blake 0 for 5 4 Ks
Kemp 0 for 7 4 Ks
Loney 2 for 12 5 Ks
furcal 2 for 8 2 ks
manny 1 for 3 0 K

The 3 guys in the dodgers who have had success against lincecum in the past are not playing tonight

Pierre 5 for 11 2 XBH 1 K
Hudson 7 for 15 2 XBH 4 Ks
Blake Dewitt 3 for 6 1 K and XBH

and even mark loretta is 3 for 11 with 1 K

by matthewmafa on Aug 12, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who will make more in arb next year: Broxton or Sherrill?

Just throwing it out there. Broxton will be in year two (of three). Sherrill in year three (of four).

by silverwidow on Aug 12, 2009 11:31 AM PDT reply actions  

Wouldn’t be surprised at all if it’s Sherrill…working off a higher base to begin with. I think both will be close though (probably around the $4m mark)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Knowing Kuo's health history

I’m kind of glad Sherrill will be here next year even if he is pricey. Hard to predict bullpens but a core of
Broxton, Sherrill, Belisario, Kuo, is a good start.

Rotation:
Halladay, Chad, Clayton, Kuroda, Troncoso

by meercatjohn on Aug 12, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Giants lineup:

Velez-CF
Sanchez-2B
Sandoval-3B
Molina-C
Schierholtz-RF
Ishikawa-1B
Lewis-LF
Uribe-SS
Lincecum-P

by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2009 11:51 AM PDT reply actions  

They had to make a roster move to activate Schierholtz. It was expected to by DFA Aurilia, but I haven’t seen anything yet.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Soccer

World Cup Soccer, USA @ Mexico starting shortly.
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Aug 12, 2009 11:59 AM PDT reply actions  

Dodger game

Dodgers @ Giants, starting shortly. After last months 0-5 whupping, no thank you to USA soccer.

by whorge on Aug 12, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

we played our B-team in that one

it should be better today, although we always struggle in Azteca Stadium

by MammothDodger on Aug 12, 2009 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

correction

“it should be better today, although we always struggle in Azteca Stadium

by whorge on Aug 12, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

We are ranked 12th in the world

In a sport that at least 95% of our population only cares about at World Cup time and where all of our great home grown players have to go overseas to play. So I do not think saying our boys always struggle is fair, although everyone is entitled to an…..

by MammothDodger on Aug 12, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

No game thread yet?

T minus 20 minutes and counting!

by David Young on Aug 12, 2009 12:24 PM PDT reply actions  

21 minutes, itchy trigger finger.

by David Young on Aug 12, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not yet…if he signs it will probably be over the weekend or Monday.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

if we dont sign him

do we get another second round pick as compensation for not signing him?

by matthewmafa on Aug 12, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I believe so. What was he, 65th? We would get pick 65a (basically 66, right after the 65th pick) if he doesn’t sign.

There is a slight chance that rule might only apply to 1st & supplemental guys though. Not 100% sure.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t think it applies to the entire draft, so there must be a cutoff somewhere. First-round with or without supplementals would be my first guess.

by David Young on Aug 12, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

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Italics denote estimates
Pos No Player 2012 Salary
C 17 Ellis $500,000 team control
1B 7 Loney $6,375,000
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3B 5 Uribe $8,000,000
SS 9 Gordon $485,000 team control
LF 21 Rivera $4,000,000
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SP 37 Capuano $3,000,000
SP 44
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CL 54 Guerra $485,000 team control
RHP 74
Jansen $500,000 team control
RHP 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
RHP Coffey $1,000,000
RHP 66 MacDougal $650,000
LHP 57 Elbert $485,000 team control
RHP 36
Hawksworth $500,000 team control

TJ 41 De La Rosa $485,000 team control



Manny $8,087,432 deferred


Andruw $3,375,000 deferred


Pierre $3,050,000 deferred
Furcal $3,000,000 deferred
Kuroda $2,000,000 deferred
Garland $1,500,000 option buyout
Blake $1,250,000 option buyout

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35 John Grabow lhp
33
59 Angel Guzman rhp
30
47 Wil Ledezma lhp
31
72 Shane Lindsay rhp
27
62 Fernando Nieve rhp 29
73 Scott Rice lhp 30
70 Will Savage rhp
27
71 Ryan Tucker rhp
25

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82 Griff Erickson c 24
81 Matt Wallachc 26
67 Jeff Baisley 3b/1b 29
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