The Worst Game Of The Year
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2009 8:57 PM PDT
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This game makes me too angry to write a proper recap. The key points:
- Hiroki Kuroda took a line drive off the head and had to leave in the sixth inning. Early word is that he never lost consciousness, so at least there is some good news
- The Dodgers couldn't score more than three runs off
Jason SchmidtDoug Davis, who struggled throwing strikes for six innings, yet the Dodgers could never deal him a crushing blow to get him out of the game earlier. - Jonathan Broxton allowed two long home runs, to Mark Reynolds and Miguel Montero, to blow his fifth save of the season, and his third in his last seven appearances
- The Dodgers lost in the 10th inning, one batter after Ramon Troncoso pulled the "lose control right after intentionally walking a guy" routine.
Randy Wolf faces Yusmeiro Petit in a salvage game tomorrow afternoon. Hopefully we'll have some good news about Kuroda by then.
WP -Chad Qualls (2-1): 1 IP, 1 walk, 1 strikeout
LP - Ramon Troncoso (4-2): 0.1 IP, 2 hits, 1 run, 2 walks
UPDATE: Ken Gurnick of MLB.com tells us the CT scan came back negative, so that is wonderful news:
Trainer Stan Conte said Kuroda never lost consciousness and a CT scan was negative, revealing no fractures or bleeding. Kuroda will be kept overnight at a local hospital for observation with a likely concussion, although doctors were willing to release him, Conte said.
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the 2005 white sox finished 6 games ahead of the 2nd place indians in the AL Central
someone said 1.5 ahead
The lead was shrunk from 15 to 1.5, with about a week left in the season. That’s what he was referring to.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2009 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
the 2005 white sox
had a 7 game losing streak from aug 12 to the 20th
every teams going to have slumps
the sky isnt going to fall on us… at the same time its very frustrating to watch
I think this is all so hard because there havent been many games that we've been run out of
we’ve lost so many recently late, or because of blown saves, or in extras, and had a lot of late inning rallies and come backs go for naught.
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
Dodgers.com crowd
are the biggest morons on the face of the Earth. They make me truly ashamed to be a Dodger fan. One of the idiots just said “put Broxton on the 60-day DL.” Those people can go fuck themselves.
Sorry, I’m just really angry — not just at the game, but at the sorry, featherweather nature of people.
I feel your pain but
they are tied for Biggest Morons with similar-minded fans of every other pro sports team. Same kind of garbage comes out everywhere, people look to scapegoat, burn at the stake someone, quickly Too many fans say things that make them sound like someone who has just started following the sport, and started following it from the perspective of being very angry for some reason. It’s depressingly widespread. I stopped reading those sites (just like I stopped reading comments on the Denver Post re the Broncos.)
Indeed.
Try talking to Cubs fans…
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
by DbacksSkins on Aug 16, 2009 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions
It's really depressing
That’s why I joined Mile High Report. More people like me there at least. The people commenting on the DP hate their lives and take it out on football. And it’s why I started commenting on Dodger Thoughts and True Blue. It at least reassures me that not every fellow fan is a numbskull. ;-)
What are the Dodgers doing?
WT*? What is management thinking? And why are the Dodgers falling apart all of a sudden? They had a chance to pick up a few ace pitchers before the trading dead line. This is the year were we might have a chance to win it all!!! And we are not capitalizing on trade offers…..We have prospects. Didn’t we just recently sign a #3 pick recently? We have a group of guys that are all in their primes and might not have the opportunity to play together all in one ball club. Martin and Either are on arbitration, but wont be surprised if they leave next year for more money offered. I dont know how many years Hudson has left in him. Loney is not producing like he was expected too. Kemp? Well they better hold on to Kemp as long as they can. I’m just surprised we couldn’t get a deal going for Pierre or even Martin. I’m very dissapointed in the Dodgers ownership and management. This is our year!!!!! We need pitching now.
Neither Ethier or Martin could leave next year
unless the Dodgers cut them outright. Who on earth would take Pierre? I think you fail to grasp the nuances of acquiring players in MLB.
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
george sherrill
any opinions as to why torre doesn’t leave him in longer? seems to me he’s the best we’ve got right now…
George Sherrill
I agree. He was a great pick up. Thats why they call him the Grimm Reaper
Everybody knows the best way to judge a player is by looking at his nickname
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
flying happily around New York with Swastikas on their jerseys lol?
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
O.K., I'm officially concerned . . .
First of all, prayers for Kuroda. Early reports seem positive; let’s hope that continues.
You have to be concerned about the pitching right now. The bullpen, which has been so terrific all season long, is now leaking oil. The trend line is definitely down. Broxton doesn’t seem to be the same lately; maybe the toe injury is still bothering him. That’s a pretty significant injury on your drive leg. Mota’s giving up lots of runs, and Troncoso seemingly can’t throw a pitch below the hitter’s belt.
Even before Kuroda getting drilled, the starter’s were having trouble going deep into games. With Kuroda pitching so well of late, it’ll be a real shame if we lose him for much time.
The boys have been cruising for most the year. That’s done. It’s going to be tight from hear on out. With the Cards series around the corner, I’m afraid it’s going to get tighter. I’m afraid it’s going to be a fight to the finish with the Giants and Rockies.
by NashvilleDodger on Aug 15, 2009 9:35 PM PDT reply actions
offense
why are we getting so many hits in a ball game on not enough runs? and whats up with loney?
I wonder if the team leads the league in singles.
It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black.
regardless of the pitching catastrophe tonight
we should have won with our offense. stranded 8, no? and hit into 3 DPs? correct me if i’m wrong…
I know I got ripped in the last thread for Broxton
but I truly believe Sherrill, needs to be the guy. I fully admit I’m emotional – if there’s any game that shouldn’t have been choked away, it’s this one. But we have Sherrill, and Brox clearly isn’t healthy / right.
Broxton's health
Theres somthing wrong with his release. I’m not sure if its coming from his arm or foot. But its obvious hes not 100%
I love that
It’s obvious you say. Obvious. Yet Torre keeps pitching him. Strange. If it’s so obvious to everyone, why wouldn’t they, you know, stop pitching him?
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
when i first read this i thought you meant you’re not sure if his release is coming from his arm or foot ;).
dyslexia aside, I’m not sure whether or not he’s 100%, but my gut feeling is that he isn’t. However, that’s just a gut feeling and I agree with mwhite that it makes no sense that Torre would keep putting him in especially because Torre is typically in favor of veteran players. Broxton has been the better pitcher on a larger sample, and deserves the closer job for now.
I'm nobody's fool, least of all yours
by BoulderDodger on Aug 16, 2009 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions
The only reason people want Sherril in over Broxton is because Sherril is new
Sherril is a fine pitcher to be sure. But Broxton is better. Broxton has much better numbers. As Eric said in the last thread. A healthy Broxton is a better pitcher. I’m not the dude’s doctor, so I’ve got no reason to think he’s not healthy.
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2009 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
well, the numbers right now don’t really say Brox is better, especially lately. Which tells me he’s not healthy. Personally, I don’t give a shit what the reason is, I don’t think he’s right, and we need to go to someone who is. Broxton’s overall numbers are sick, but the toe injury numbers aren’t. It’s likely something that doesn’t get cured until next year – should we just sit here till the season’s over?
It’s likely something that doesn’t get cured until next year
Is this your medical opinion, doctor?
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2009 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
I stayed at a holiday inn express some time last year
by oshea2002 on Aug 15, 2009 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
although I'm not sure I agree either, that may be one of the better comebacks of the year
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
Thes best part about that is they just showed the “Holiday Inn Standings” on MLB Network. :)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Broxton
It is clear that he is trying to play hurt. This is an old story with ballplayers. If they go on the DL. they are pussies who are letting their teammates and the fans down. If they play hurt and suck, then they are [insert insults of choice here].
If Broxton can’t pitch effectively then it is not a matter of whether he should be the closer or not. Demote him to set-up man or whatever and he is just going to give up lots of runs earlier in the game. Put him on the DL. If the injury isn’t expected to clear up until after the season, then fine, Broxton’s season is over.
by CanuckDodger on Aug 15, 2009 9:46 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
yeah but we could have Cliff Lee too
by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 15, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Indians rejected our package
It was said to be highly regarded young pitching. Nothing that can be done.
Im just amazed we couldnt offer more than
2 AAAA hitters in Donald and Marson
a Single A pitcher who was shutdown earlier in the season with shoulder issues
and a 3/4 starter at best
by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 15, 2009 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
The Dodgers said we DID offer more
The Indians still rejected it. They can take whatever package they want. We weren’t about to give up Kershaw or whatever.
The Dodgers believe they did offer more
Cleveland disagreed.
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2009 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions
The Cleveland GM
musta been high when he oked this trade or he must know something everyone else doesnt
by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 15, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay, then don't
Don’t really know what to tell you.
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Loss
I take losses very serious!!! I just yielled at my kids and put them to bed early because the Dodgers lost. And the worst part, I live in Arizona! EWWHH!!
If You Yelled...
.. at your kids because the Dodgers lost, you owe them an apology. And a trip to Dairy Queen.
by CanuckDodger on Aug 15, 2009 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions
nooo
my kids are Dodgers fans for life!! I have them cheering “lets go dodgers lets go” clap clap at Chase Field
Allright peeps Im out
Got a game to catch at Chase Field tomorrow. I’ll take my kids to DQ for the sake of a Dodgers Win manana!!!!
dairy queens
nice…mmm that sounds good. sorry kids. well my 5 year old cried when kuroda went down. ima go give her a kiss good night right now
I take losses very serious!!! I just yielled at my kids and put them to bed early because the Dodgers lost.
Bing Crosby and Marv Marinovich just called in to let me know they are off the hook.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2009 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions
seriously
and we have the football season approaching and the Lakers/Clipper seasons
by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 15, 2009 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Over/Under
2 games up after the Cubs and Cardinals series next week?
by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 15, 2009 10:01 PM PDT reply actions
After the Cardinals, Cubs and Rockies
the Dodgers have a pretty easy schedule the rest of the way. 7 games vs the Pirates, 7 games vs the Diamondbacks, 5 games vs the Padres and 3 games vs the Nationals.
....ouch.
;-)
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
by DbacksSkins on Aug 15, 2009 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
easy schedule doesnt mean anything
if your playing the way the dodgers are right now
by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 15, 2009 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
We needed some Zooey luck tonight
Wow terrible loss. After watching the line drive off Kuroda I can almost understand why their hearts were not in the game after that. No excuses though. They need to turn it around. Lets go Loney and Martin. With some offense these pitching issues will be a little less critical. Start scoring 5+ runs again.
EL Lay Dave is clearly not our guy tonight :)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
from LA Times
kuroda’s CT scan negative, no bleeding, no skull fracture. they didn’t even want to keep him overnight, but will for observation. i hope the news continues to be this good!
Yeah, thank God for that. The loss doesn’t even matter. I was sick when I saw Kuroda heaped on the ground and obviously so was everyone in both dugouts and in the stands. It’s a nightmare for a pitcher to take a 100+ MPH line drive hitting flesh in the head. I hope Kuroda shows no ill effects from it and gets back on the field when he feels he can.
I was sitting behind the dugout when Kaz Ishii took a liner off his forehead and there is no scarier thing in all of sports.
by UCLAClass82 on Aug 15, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Just over to say
Hope Kuroda makes a full and quick recovery. The signs are good, it seems, but it was a very, very shocking moment – regardless of rivalries, it’s not what anyone ever wants to see on the field.
"Win, or die" -- Marquise de Merteuil
Beat me to it.
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
by DbacksSkins on Aug 15, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
As a Dbacks fan,
the win was great, but I hope Kuroda makes a full and complete recovery. :-( Sounds like he’s doing fine, so hopefully he doesn’t develop any hemorrhaging overnight.
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
thanks for the classy posts guys
(classier than some of things said by Dodgers fans tonight about their own team after the game on other sites) And yeah sounds like — fingers crossed — he’ll be okay.
"classy"?
Oh, don’t worry…. my genuine concern for Kuroda hasn’t dampened my hatred for the Dodgers otherwise. ;-)
"In the future, I want to be a fossil. Or, at least have my feces be fossilized"
-Pygalgia
That was scary
I was hoping he’d be capable of recognizing rapid-coarse direction after that hit, let alone being able to pitch again. I hope he gets better (soon would be nice, but at this point not necesarry).
"Andre Dawson has a bruised knee and is listed as day-to-day.... Aren't we all?"
by Mr. LA Sports Fan on Aug 15, 2009 11:28 PM PDT reply actions
someone on the ESPN board said this.
I’m not a Dodgers or Dbacks fan but was at the game tonight…scary moment indeed. What I want to clarify is that the author of the article said that all 8 dodgers were standing on the mound…which was true eventually. As soon as the incident happened, however, only 7 Dodgers rushed to the mound. Manny stood all alone in left field for a good 3 or 4 minutes. Eventually, after being heckled by the outfield fans, he slowly made his way towards the mound. I’ve never been a Manny lover or hater, but that had to be one of the more low class things I’ve seen from a baseball player. Not that Manny can do anything, but how about a gesture showing that you’re concerned for a teammate that could have been quite seriously injured. I think I just became a bit of a Manny hater tonight.
Is that true? that manny didnt go to the mound until later? did anyone else notice this?
I went back and rewatched that whole sequence via MLBTV archives
and it looked like it took him a couple of minutes, maybe 3 tops, to come join his teammates from the time of impact. With no camera trained on him it’s hard to know but it’s possible he just felt awkward and useless and then got the message he should join everyone. Probably giving him too much benefit of the doubt but also didn’t quite see something to go ballistic over.
People react to things differently. Yes, Manny probably should have gone to the mound, but who knows, maybe he was just too shocked by the incident, or doesn’t like blood, or whatever. I have no idea why he was standing by himself for a few minutes, but if I could understand everything he did he wouldn’t be Manny. :)
I’m just not sure how much you can read into that.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 16, 2009 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Just got home to hear the news about Kuroda and Broxton.
I’m glad I didn’t have to go through the emotions Dodger fans went through tonight, much easier to read after all was said and done. Canuck my be right about Broxton, it is certainly time we stop saying Broxton is going to be all right and start looking at the alternatives until he figures out what the problem is. Nothing wrong with doing some setup work or taking time on the DL. Seems clear since the toe injury he’s not the same guy.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I have to say I don't understand MWhite's argument
that everything must be okay if Joe Torre continues to use him. It would not be the first time that a Dodger has not confessed to being hurt and Joe was clueless about it.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I don’t see how a guy with Broxton’s stuff and dominance early in the season can all the sudden struggle like this w/o being hurt. With all the injuries to the pen plus Troncoso and Mota falling off a bit, I can totally see why Broxton is not volunteering an injury. But when his injury was initially diagnosed, they said it wouldn’t get better until the offseason. It is clearly affecting him, and as I mentioned last night, we have an alternative in Sherrill. Of course he’s not better than Brox, but he’s better than this Brox. If rest is the only cure, maybe we swap them, and never have Brox pitch on consecutive days, etc.
To clarify
I wasn’t arguing that Torre is omnipotent. I was just taking exception with the declaration that Broxton was obviously hurt. It was a semantics argument, and the day afterward it looks silly on my part. As you said, last night everybody was pretty on edge. A lot of us were basically arguing about anything and everything (including myself.) What can I say….
by Michael White on Aug 16, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Well the good thing about this day is that Kuroda is alright.
Broxton, I haven’t been able to sit threw one of his innings in a long time. Don’t know if it is his foot or just like last year he kind of had late season hiccups also. I can’t believe Koroda will get back out there this year, he could be gun shy from that hit. I remember the last time I crashed on my bike could get back out for 5-6 months, just lost my drive. So if he doesn’t come back at 34 I can’t blame him, and this dude was starting to come around too. Maybe we can get another starter, I would give Smozt a look I know he hasn’t done well but could be NL-AL strike zone thing.
Well here is hoping everything turns out A-OK!
Paul D. Kelley
BN is a myopic site
by so.cal.native1952 on Aug 16, 2009 7:06 AM PDT reply actions
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