Jonathan Broxton: Road Warrior?
Jonathan Broxton has had some rough outings recently, and judging from the comments here he is the most polarizing member of the 2009 Dodgers. Overall, his numbers are very good, but Broxton seems to suffer from the comparisons to Eric Gagne, who put up arguably the greatest three-year run of any reliever in history, and to a lesser extent, Takashi Saito. Simply being one of the best closers in the league doesn't seem good enough for some, as it seems like Broxton has a nearly impossible standard to live up to.
Broxton took over as closer for an injured Takashi Saito last July 18. Since then, his numbers compare favorably with some of the best closers in the game:
| Closers July 18, 2008 to Present | |||||||||
| Closer | Sv/Bsv | IP | BB/9 | K/9 | HR/9 | ERA | FIP | WHIP | BA/OBP/SLG |
| Jonathan Broxton | 40/8 | 84.1 | 3.74 | 13.23 | 0.43 | 2.99 | 2.18 | 1.032 | .174/.265/.248 |
| Joe Nathan | 42/7 | 73.2 | 2.32 | 10.63 | 0.49 | 1.59 | 2.29 | 0.828 | .162/.228/.263 |
| Mariano Rivera | 51/2 | 79.1 | 1.13 | 9.53 | 0.91 | 1.93 | 2.70 | 0.857 | .197/.223/.302 |
| Jonathan Papelbon | 50/5 | 90.0 | 2.70 | 9.30 | 0.60 | 2.30 | 2.90 | 1.178 | .231/.290/.330 |
Since news of Broxton's toe injury came out, after he gave up multiple runs in back to back outings in San Diego and Milwaukee, he has struggled, with three blown saves in nine opportunities. His ERA over that time is a reasonable 3.14, and opposing batters have hit .192/.276/.365, but his FIP over these last 14.1 innings is 4.77. Still, if healthy, Broxton is the Dodgers' best option for closer. That is the million dollar question facing Joe Torre and his staff. For now, Broxton says he's healthy, and its up to management to sift through the bravado and see if he's telling the truth.
Another suggestion I have seen is to make Broxton the closer at home, but not on the road, where his numbers are demonstrably worse. I was quick to dismiss this, partially because Broxton's worst two outings were when he was hiding his toe injury, and were both on the road. However, I went back and looked at Broxton's 2008 splits as well, and even if we remove the two bad road "toe games" (in San Diego and Milwaukee), the splits are quite shocking:
| Jonathan Broxton Splits as Closer (minus the two "toe games") |
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| Location | Sv/Bsv | IP | BB/9 | K/9 | HR/9 | ERA | FIP | WHIP | BA/OBP/SLG |
| Home | 22/1 | 50.1 | 1.97 | 13.23 | 0.00 | 1.25 | 0.96 | 0.675 | .135/.190/.158 |
| Road | 18/7 | 32.0 | 5.63 | 13.78 | 1.13 | 4.50 | 3.74 | 1.375 | .203/.324/.356 |
A few things jump out there. First, Broxton has walked nearly three times as many batters on the road than at home. Second, he has yet to allow a home run at home as a closer. Part of that home run difference has to be luck, but the difference is still striking. The batting average on balls in play (BABIP) is .235 at home, which suggest those numbers are a bit lucky, but Broxton's road BABIP is .299, so those road numbers are true.
Are 32 innings enough to draw a conclusion? Maybe, maybe not. I don't know. It does seem a little unwieldy for a club to have a different closer at home and on the road. Would a move like that affect Broxton's confidence, or are we too quick as fans to psychoanalyze our favorite athletes? Should Broxton be more adamant about having the grounds crew tend to the mound when he enters the game on the road? I am still of the opinion that Broxton is the best man for the closer job, home or road, but I will admit these are all questions I don't know the answers to, and the differences between home Broxton and road Broxton are wide enough to plant even the slightest seed of doubt in my mind.
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I picked that because that was his first save opportunity as full-time closer.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 19, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
In terms of the road factor
Also worth considering is that Dodger Stadium is the least home-run friendly park so far in 2009 (though most folks would think horrible SD and awesome SF pitching and James Loney have more to do with that than physical dimensions.
That doesn’t really measure the park factor though.
The way to do that is to look at HR by both teams at Dodger Stadium at home, and compare them to HR by both teams during Dodger road games.
ESPN does this, and Dodger Stadium is 23rd of 30 teams in HR friendliness.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 19, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Note the drop in Denver from '08 to '09
Matt Holiday really is Chuck Norris. The earth moves fences for him.
by stillnotah8er on Aug 19, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Heh. :)
However, the point of park factors is to remove individual players. Having a team full of home run hitters won’t make your stadium’s park factor go up. If done correctly, park factors show the true effect of the park on whatever data, regardless of the players.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 19, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
At least he would be making the minimum.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 19, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Don't want Padilla, but I can't see the harm in trotting him out for a couple of starts that would have went to Weaver.
He'll make the pro-rated minimum - run him out there I say
I think it’s worth a shot, there’s a decent chance he’s better than Weaver or Haeger. He’ll certainly (as long as he doesn’t completely suck) give us more innings than Weaver, that in itself is valuable, and I like Weaver in the swing relief role.
I don't think he'll be better than Haeger.
As we saw on Monday, when the kunckleball is working, nobody can hit the damn thing. Its the mistakes that are crushed.
So could Padilla
plus he’s a plus asshole, why deal with it. Do you want him hitting Sandoval and creating a bean ball war because he’s a dick?
by meercatjohn on Aug 19, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Padilla is one of my least favorite people in baseball, he's such a punk
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
Esteban Loaiza, part duex???
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Aug 19, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Nothing like it at all
Loaiza was coming off an injury and had only thrown a few games when we acquired him. The games he had pitched were very good for the A’s. Padilla has been healthy, just not effective and costs nothing. Loaiza not only had to be paid for the rest of the year but the next year.
by meercatjohn on Aug 19, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
very good is an understatement
He won a big game in SF the morning after spending the night in the clink in Oakland for a DUI. That’s legendary.
by stillnotah8er on Aug 19, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
he could be useful since kuroda might be done for a few weeks
but if he starts beaning players like he did in texas or causing trouble then release him…
so if this goes down...
haeger gets temporarily no 4 and padilla no 5 im guessing
if it doesnt happen id assume the dodgers use weaver in place of kurodas spot…
and haeger is the 5th starter…
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Aug 19, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Sometimes the news cycle affects what is on our minds. I write a Sherrill article this morning, and every comment was about Broxton. Now a Broxton article appears, and the vast majority of comments are about Padilla. I’m not complaining; I just found this funny.
and who says the NL can't have a DH
designated headhunter
jon broxton home road splits
from 2006- 2008
Home-128.0 innings 94 hits 40 runs 34 ER 3 HR 47 Walks 170 Ks .203 Avg 2.39 ERA
Road- 99.1 Innings 90 Hits 44 Runs 38 ER 12 HRs 38 Walks 114 Ks .240 AVG 3.44 ERA
So the crazy amount of walks he has given up this year are a fluke as in the past 3 years he has walked about the same per 9 innings at home and Road..
The home runs REALLY stand out. 12 home runs in 99.1 innings but only 3 in 128 at home. How does this happen????
Broxton also Ks less people At Home then on the road. and gives up Wayyyy less hits at home then on the road..
So broxton being worse on the road is not only this year but he has been like that his whole careeer
Yet the biggest home run
that everyone will remember until he does something in the post season to make them forget is the Stairs home run at home. Bad timing
That was his point.
People who don’t like Broxton are going to find anything and everything to support their case and the people who do like Broxton will do everything and anything to support their case.
That wasn't really my point
my point was that he never gives up home runs at home but the biggest home run he ever gave up came at home. So when you tell fans he doesn’t give up home runs at home they just ask you what those things are that get you up and down a two story house and say “right”.
Wait a minute...
I don’t understand what a Chair Lift has to do with Jonathon Broxton?
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Aug 19, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
and ironically his biggest meltdown of the year came at
the most pitcher friendly park in the country…maybe something was in the air though, cuz bills knocked one out in that game as well
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
Back to the original point of the column
It seems like a simple solution is in order. Broxton has his chair in the Dodger bullpen. Broxton pitches well when he sits in that chair before being used. Broxton does not such a chair while on the road. Broxton does not pitch as well when he does not have his chair to sit in before he’s used. Take Broxton’s chair with him on the road.
The chair has always been important in the pecking order
a couch would signify indecision and a closer by committee mentality.
Wait another minute!
Did somebody mention a chair???
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Aug 19, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
BTW, for those who want the Sherill to face the left handed closer vs. Broxton being the right handed closer.
Broxton:
Career vs. RHB: .204 /.249/.295 in 646 PAs
Career vs. LHB: .218/.337/.333 in 580 PAs
2009 vs. RHB: .182/.264/.293 in 110 PAs
2009 vs LHB: .138/.239/.202 in 109 PAs
Sherill:
Career vs. RHB: .259/.369 /.385 in 560 PAs
Career vs. LHB: .163/.225/.266 in 426 PAs
2009 vs. RHB: .262/.338/.408 in 145 PAs
2009 vs. LHB: .119/.172/.153 in 65 PAs
i dont think anyone wants left hand closer vs right hand closer
i think everyone wants home closer to road closer.

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